Acrylic Home Brew Thinners : Tutorial

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@davidmelton7268 4 месяца назад

Tried most of the recipes offered online, and this one consistently works best for me. As noted in the video, simply mixing water and IPA will work reasonably well. In my humble experience, adding the flow improver is the real game changer, and the retarder makes it even better. Using 1-2ml of each in a 100ml bottle of thinner produces great results at minimal cost. I know this video has been up for years, but it still deserves the praise!

@genessismodels 4 месяца назад

Great to hear!

@chadfontaine2717 Год назад

10 years in. Still coming back to your vid for the recipe. It's like water turned up to 11 ;)

@grandpatim8352 7 месяцев назад

Great stuff. I made up a batch and use it exclusively. Big help in keeping the airbrush from drying and clogging.

@Askaret 3 года назад

For all of you that need just the dry info: 2 to 1 ratio of distilled (clean) water to IPA . Ad a few drops of flow improver for bather results .

@dustrhinosfan1 3 года назад

Thank you!!

@jj-icejoe6642 Год назад

better

@yarders9191 9 месяцев назад

Massive thanks for this. As someone whos trying to avoid setting my wallet on fire and keep to a low budget this is massively helpful

@robertralls8309 3 года назад

Great recipe! Mixed some up, and it works as well or better than the pre mixed thinners. Thanks for the video!

@StrawHearts823 2 месяца назад

A broke cheap ass modeler was save by this video.. Thanks mate!!

@rendoroid 3 года назад

thank you!! i will try it, ive been dying to search Zoukei Mura Thinner replacement... hopefully this can do the trick!

@jameslochridge4265 3 года назад

Lucky me I live in Glasgow and the water is awesome.

@olivercooney6645 3 года назад

Great video just put in my order for all the stuff hope it works with my AK real colours range I've always used Mr colour leveling thinners for everything I paint with

@crown7709 Год назад

I made a batch of that stuff and it works well with Tamiya. I will try it on other acrylic paints soon. Thanks for the tip.

@genessismodels Год назад

Sounds great! glad it helps

@timdodd3897 3 года назад

Thanks! I hated acrylics, now I like them. I loved Testers Model Master paints, but the new owners, Rust Olium discontinued them.

@raymorganti946 3 года назад

Awesome video! I'm definitely going to do this.

@w.rustylane5650 5 месяцев назад

I make my own cleaner with either non ammonia Windex or Simple Green, distilled water, isopropyl alcohol and water soluble glycerin. I also make my own thinner with distilled water, isopropyl alcohol, water soluble glycerin and a flow agent. Cheers from eastern TN

@ozzybwild 3 года назад

"Spirit" or "rubbing alcohol" can be bought in every supermarket and does the same job as the IPA, the only difference is you can't/shouldn't try to drink it since it has added "make taste bad" chemicals in it, but can be bought tax-free over here. Sorry, for the highly scientific description and regards from germany, mate! o/ I think about trying to create my own thinner as well, would try a drop of "dishwashing detergent" as flow improver and "glycerin(e)" as retarder to further cut a penny and see how it works though. ;)

@slighter 2 года назад

But IPA with 99.9% alcohol makes the job a bit better than spirits with lower alcohol pars, I think. And IPA isn't that expensive in Germany either.

@JetPilot747 2 года назад

Thank you for your helpful tutorials which are much needed for beginners like myself. I was trying Revell's Aqua Color Mix as a thinner but this turns my Revell Aqua paint into mud! Can thinners get bad over time? Diluted with tap water worked well but my airbrush tip dries up and clogs really fast.

@martynpinkney7933 3 года назад

Great stuff! Thanks very much.

@slenkhar 2 года назад

If you're gonna use a lot of IPA for household cleaning as well, buying 10L for £30 on eBay is really cheap at £3 per liter

@charlesfavano7424 11 месяцев назад

i have a question first i so love you videos watch them every freetime i get my question do you know how to make homemade transparent paint i make my paints from cheap acrylics with all my extra was wondering if i can make a set of transparents???

@jean-michelyeguiayan1195 3 года назад

Very good My English is not perfect It is ok for ak RC and tamiya XF series ?

@DavidMartinez-fq9eh 3 года назад

Any problem using pharmacy alcohol instead of isopropyl?

@antoinegrujon8287 2 года назад

Hi. Thanks for the video. Just starting out and haven't got much of a budget, so will be making some of this up. I wondered if you had any tips on home brew airbrush cleaner. Lots of videos on you tube, but all with american ingredients.

@genessismodels 2 года назад

This link is to a video I did some years ago mate www.genessis-models.co.uk/videos/how-to-make-home-brew-airbrush-cleaner-genessis-models-tutorial/

@deetee-uk 3 года назад

What's it like with humbrol acrylics?

@colinwoods4450 3 года назад

Great video and very interesting ~ can I just clarify your comment re buying water from supermarket is that normal bottled drinking water or distilled water? Thanks

@genessismodels 3 года назад

Any should do mate. I've even used tap water with no problems

@terryblackman6217 3 года назад

Brilliant video. Big big thanks.

@meinfraulein380 Год назад

google says it is the same as isopropyl alcohol, can i use common antiseptic alcohol?

@SB-hg5sq 8 месяцев назад

Going to make my own after watching this. Can you use other brand flow improvers and retarders?

@xav500011 3 года назад

After I thinned an amount of Citadel acrylic paint could I then store it in a empty pot for use in the future? So I have pre thinned acrylic paint ready for use. I ask because I have tried to thin Citadel paint using just water and over time it did not stay mixed.

@genessismodels 3 года назад

best to test first as deferant brands can have differant effects over time

@Tom-yd5lg 2 года назад

I tryed this Mix and it don't work with my setup. The only Difference was the retarder, itook them from Vallejo. At the brushing i got small Flakes, so i can't use it. My setup: Revell Masterclass sprayed with two bar with a sparmax GP-850 with a 0.5 Nozzle. The color i used was from Valleo Model Color, White Gloss. I don't know whats wrong !

@dhd8850 3 года назад

Thanks for the tutorial, very helpful to this newby watching! May i ask, can you use this mix to craft waterbased acrylic paint?

@genessismodels 3 года назад

possably, always best to test

@dhd8850 3 года назад

@@genessismodels thank you

@bradunderwood5698 10 месяцев назад

can this brew work as well as mr color "leveling" thinner?

@gazsto Год назад

Many videos show the 2 to 1 ratio (water and IPA), but are different on the percentage of Flow Improver per 200ml and some give a bigger percentage on Flow Improver @10ml, What's the best ratio? and the Retarder is the same @ 1ml. Appreciate some guidance, thanks!

@DjRoan_only_top_kizz 3 года назад

can i use 90 grade PINK denaturate alcol instead of transparent iso 91? Will the pink contaminate the acrilic color? Thanks

@genessismodels 3 года назад

Ive not used it, and dont think it would effect the color in a big way but it could, so would always go with the clear stuff

@Dr.Hoffman 2 года назад

I mixed some acrylic with some vallejo thinners and water... After shaking and then leaving it just continually seperates into a thin black layer of the acrylic and thick grey layer of the thinner/water.. LOTS of emulsion during the shaking process. What did I do wrong or just nasty paints (arteza acrylic in tubes, wanted to try and make my own with existing materials and seemed simple enough).

@Yo_Hahn 2 года назад

Just shake it well before use. I have several colors eg citadel pallid wych flesh or vallejo dark fleshtone who are seperating themself in the bottles without thinning.

@honortruth5227 3 года назад

👍

@graemebrumfitt6668 3 года назад

Cheers Dude. TFS, G :)

@TheShamwari 2 года назад

For large stage scenery I used commercial PVA wall paint thinned with water in a big spray gun.

@nomail2823 3 года назад

What ratio do you use the thinner with your paint?

@genessismodels 3 года назад

normally 50:50 is a good start

@EndlessSims3 Год назад

I am sorry but need to ask how many teaspoons is 1 ml? I never learned ml. Never had to learn that in schools as a kid, please tell me? Thanks

@paulbache3940 2 года назад

Would be a good idea to leave it to stand for 24 hours and also remind people that mix will get warm after the alcohol is added

@jamesunger8433 3 года назад

Does this work with Humbrol Testors and Model Master Enamels.

@genessismodels 3 года назад

All acrylic paints I know of but not enamels mate

@deetee-uk 3 года назад

Do you have to shake before use or is that not necessary once it's been mixed?

@genessismodels 3 года назад

no need to shake with home brew mate

@kevincleaver1999 3 года назад

Hi. Great vib quick question, Is this good for Tamiya acrylics

@genessismodels 3 года назад

Yes, absolutely

@kevincleaver1999 3 года назад

@@genessismodels thanks your a star

@paulmillard1130 Год назад

What about Vallejo?

@u3brutal 3 года назад

Hello, can i use this home made thinner for mr finishing surface??

@genessismodels 3 года назад

you should do but always test first mate

@alcardespear2446 3 года назад

@@genessismodels thanks

@jozuavanlangenhove6586 2 года назад

Can you use this thinner for revell aqua? I find this a problematic paint for airbrushing.

@genessismodels 2 года назад

I found them to be fine with home brew

@jozuavanlangenhove6586 2 года назад

@@genessismodels Thanks Bobby, i will try it! 😉👍

@rolandzuber2856 3 года назад

I tried Vallejo with IPA (just a small amount, mostly distiled water anyway :) ) and the paint just coagulated, so I guess those 2ml of Retarder and Flow Improver make a difference? ;)

@FebreGundam 3 года назад

You cannot use IPA for Vallejo acrylics, you have to use their own thinner or just water

@Goldchucker1 3 года назад

@@FebreGundam Not true. You can certainly use IPA with Vallejo acrylic paint. I mix my own home brew of distiled water, IPA and glycerin to use as a thinner and it never causes any problem with coagulation.

@jebstuart1323 3 года назад

I use plain cheap automotive washer fluid or Windex.

@thegorefatherdonkhorneleon5159 2 года назад

I used ipa/distilled water mix in citadel paints and it actually broke down congealed paint that i temoved from the pot ring

@Silentwingedone 3 года назад

Are you using 70% or 90% IPA?

@genessismodels 3 года назад

I use 97% mate but you can get what ever you want just got to change the ratio abit

@dodo1opps 2 года назад

GO YOU 'R's!!!

@christinaevans5362 3 года назад

Can you boil two water instead of buying ?

@tonygardner9896 2 года назад

See one of the RU-vid videos on how to make distilled water in your own home. I made a litre in about an hour of simmering tap water.

@e.h.3152 3 года назад

Can you use this with acrylic lacquer paints like Mr Color?

@genessismodels 3 года назад

I have not tried my self but always best to test

@Gorketh 3 года назад

Best to check the MSDS for the chemical make up of your usual acrylic lacquer thinner. I use SMS thinner with SMS paints which is mainly toluene and solvent naphtha.

@jr7392 3 года назад

I was wondering...over here we have 70% and 90% isopropanol available over-the-counter. If you're simply going to dilute 99.9% with water anyway, you can probably buy the cheaper stuff and adjust the amount of water used accordingly.

@genessismodels 3 года назад

ye you can just do that mate just got to work it out so its still the right ratio

@pmfman 3 года назад

It may work the same and smell the same, but i assure you that it isnt. The only 2 ingredients for vallejo are 2-Butoxyethanol And water. Other companies also use 2-Butoxyethanol as the main ingredient

@jr7392 3 года назад

The 2-Butoxyethanol probably takes the place of both the isopropanol and the flow improver/retarder as it's a surfactant as well as solvent.

@annanbejat1578 3 года назад

Pardon mate, I have a question regarding that 2-butoxyethanol, is it similar to IPA (isoprophyl alcohol)??? Also, Is the chemical corrosive to brushes???

@jelly8594 Год назад

How do you know for sure the ingredients of Vallejo?

@Sophie_519 Год назад

1 part 99%IPA + 2 Parts Distilled water ... = 30% IPA. So if you have a 70%, you do about 1:1 etc. then add flow improver and Retarder.

@evonnesawyer1214 2 года назад

you said 2 fereds whats a fered

@Konto_o_wszystkim704 2 года назад

wel well smart idea which producers will not like!!!! L)

@kellyseeman741 3 года назад

Why buy expensive alcohol when you could use a 70 percent bottle of alcohol you can buy for under a buck thus eliminating mixing water . Another video used glycerin for the flow improvement. Just saying.

@brot5246 3 года назад

Plus 99% is flammable, I agree .

@peterecos634 3 года назад

Gonna try this. So that I'm doing this right: for 60 ml mix 28 ml of IPA with 38 ml of distilled water, add 1 ml of the retarder and 1 ml of the flow improver.

@jerseywalcott6408 2 года назад

Amazing some time. You buy and assemble and outstanding model. You have the model ready and you have top flight paint so now you go ahead and make some moonshine thinner for your paint. Makes no sense.

@ryanc1451 Год назад

It makes perfect sense if you understand basic high school level chemistry my dude.

@RPista 3 года назад

almost 7 minutes man of just needing the raw info. 2 parts distilled to one part 99% ipa alcohol.

@tomaspuodziukynas5361 2 года назад

OK. Dont throw me under the bus, but can I cahnge isopropanol with simple Vodka?

@genessismodels 2 года назад

lol I think whisky would be better

@tomaspuodziukynas5361 2 года назад

@@genessismodels it was serious question. And actaully tried dissolving paint with only spirit found at home - Jose Quervo tequilla. Can share it works 6/10 LOL. So totally useable as plan B.

@joeshumo9457 8 месяцев назад

Lol, flow improver... wtf is flow improver? Regular paint thinner? Kerosene? Piss? The other one is an emulsifier, like safer soap. But “ flow improver “, means nothing to me. All you said was that flow improver helps it to flow. That’s not an explanation.

@scorpio9578 2 года назад

FINNERS! Please can you try saying TH and not F....great vids apart from that!

@jj-icejoe6642 7 месяцев назад

You make me laugh because flow improuver and fluid retarder are exactly the same thing, the same components just different compositions. So there's a lot of contradiction in your formula.