Adam Mizner - Yang style Taiji Quan • The Martial Camp 2020 

lol, this isnt kung fu, this is booshitto

i appreciate what Adam Mizner does. But from a purpose oriented perspective you can indeed ask what the reason is to be able to do this. Therefore i find your comment, that only this is authentic kung fu, very unfair and onesided. There are a lot of people who say that a true martial art must be measured by its effectiveness. And this opinion has also its eligibility and truth. As Karate Master Motobu Chōki once said: "Nothing is more harmful to the world than a martial art that is not effective in actual self-defensive".

@@emsif I would recommend that you do some reading on the internal martial arts and watch more Sifu Mizner's videos including the interviews. What you see in the video above is a demonstration of the tai chi 'engine' at work, including how an opponent's body can be dominated by mere contact using the same 'engine'. A punch in the chest from a tai chi master, including a very short-range one can put you in the hospital or the cemetery using the same 'engine'. In kung fu philosphy, at least the one I have been exposed to, 'Soft' beats 'Hard'. Many minds do not understand the concept but it is fascinating to research and study it. By the way, what I mentioned about tai chi also holds true true for other internal arts such as Pa Kua and Hsing I as well as some of their Shaolin equivalents that are usally taught at the latter stages of one's kung fu journey. Once you built the faculties and the body necessary of tai chi then you can do with it what you please but I would suggest that the calmness of the mind and relaxation of the self involved in the internals will result in you not wanting to prove yourself in the ring, once you becom skillful. PS. At no time did I suggest that 'only this' was authentic kung fu. All traditional kung fu styles are authentic but the ones that lean more towards the external have different 'engines' which vary even amongst the external styles. The Wing Chun 'engine' is different from the Chow Gar Praying Mantis one - I know because those are my styles.

@@DJAraRealSalsa Domination by mere contact, of course it works with students who are 100% into the cult. Try this on a random guy in the street. That's complete bullshit, and this guy is a scammer.

@@robertdesmondwarner458 And I suppose that you are talking from a position of being a kung fu expert?

so when was this? what year??

you know he goes all over the world teaching to people hes never met and there is footage of him doing the same thing to these people? Ren Zhongxin demonstrating in Chinese (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0M9sBRQFAgo.html) what Adam Mizner explains here (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r0O8DU_IaYE.html) here is against someone that doesnt speak the same language - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vHNYACQDpGY.html lots of public videos of his world tours against people that are not his students doing the same thing vs some guys words on the internet. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KV_S8JYjHBc.html us tour 2015 - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-swmqhUYnm5A.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2-B5P5flmjk.html

Take your woo woo to him and prove to everyone in his camp that it doesn't work.

As much as I don't like charlatans - this man frequently says he avoids combat and anything like that. Both he and Damo are searching (admittedly incorrectly) for something exclusively internal. They must have thought my ancestors had a lot of free time and food (they didn't). If you send him to a proper gym in the rougher parts of Thailand - he'd be killed. Let alone have his woo-woo as you call it disproven. It's dangerous and not what he deserves. None of these people are looking for fighting ability. And yes it shows. It's a misrepresentation of Taiji 'fist' - but people are able to both do the research and travel these days. So your only real excuse for not knowing better is your own ignorance. Adam and Damo teach utter nonsense. But each to their own.

Exactly.

You don't men to actually to actually have the commen sense to know this is actually real right?

@@dwddindin Huh? Are you drunk?

@@davidm9618 do you actually know if this shit doesn't work? Do you know how this shit works?

@@dwddindin Over 25 years experience. WKA Black belt. I know bullshit when I see it.

It doesn't look real at all though and that is because it is fake.

Yeah but for fighting there is a lot of REAL stuff that looks REAL!! Boxing.... Mma.... Muay Thai... Bjj... All REAL!!

@@twelvepetaledlotus1721 Well yeah, because they practiced it. Here you are judging an art you haven't practiced. The difference is outstanding.

These people didnt just create this moves suddenly it was passed down from generations to generations with each learning more about the human body and improving each moves with time to come and now we have a joke telling us these people are fools?

@@firman3c377 after 35 + years of Tai Chi Chuan practice and being a" inside the door" student, Tai Chi Chuan instructor since the early 1990 think i have earnt the right to my option, maybe explain your tai Chi chuan background ? look forward to your reply,

@@davidwackett9375i am afraid i hadn't practice taichi, however i have experiences with fighting head on with young gangsters age 12++ and im a 15 year old.anyways, 12++ could meant 20+ where people would assume people are at their best whiu is their prime. Anyways, if you were to be an instructor in tai chi, then i believe you have learn about the flow of the human body(of course with other factors, lets just focus on this factor). If i had gone with a much more physical detail, i'd say its momentum which increases one force, this however shows how one was able to create such tremendous force with what seems like very less momentum (fajing) and about this video, its how they were able to hit one pressure point precisely and force the joints of others and moving them through their flow unless you hadnt done it right, your opponent would be able to take you down, or if you had execute it properly, and if they hadn't followed your flow they would end up with unnecessary harms. Going through with that, i could say its like a one inch punch but you're applying almost the same thing to opponents pressure points and so on, its late here in asia. I'll let you hear my stories later on if you're interested. Peace!

The world is full of idiots who think this is real. Here's proof tai chi is bullshit: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pHhy3X6q_OQ.html

@@Livingtree32 I never claimed all of anything is crap. But any system that requires compliant opponents is.

Yo its been 2 months you learn soemthing new from school yet? Can you afford the school fees? Is so please apply for school and learn till you have reached university level and then learn about anatomy and more about joints and pressure and apply it with martial arts, one do not simply know words but apply it with action. Peace out my fellow human

@@firman3c377 This dancing in slow motion is bull shit.

Ren Zhongxin demonstrating in Chinese (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0M9sBRQFAgo.html) what Adam Mizner explains here (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r0O8DU_IaYE.html)

U ain't bad u ain't nothing

@Jaime Ares yes

Been practicing for 7+ years, and it helps with lifting weight too. There's no magic, it's just body mechanics, and it's the same body we carry in everything we do. And so studying internal arts helps in any physical activity (did some climbing too, definitely helps). Lifting heavy weight (or doing kettlebells, the internal art of weightlifting), body conditioning , etc, are not to be opposed to these arts, they are in fact very synergetic. I'd say taichi is more a neurological practice than a physical one. You only develop little muscles used for posture, but you completely change the way you feel and use your body as a whole.

@@Cynry thanks u

@Jaime Ares Spirituality is my priority in life, and probably the most important reason for me to practice. Yes, it changes a lot in that area too. No, none of it is magic. It's in your brain, which for me is part of biomechanics (neurology). If you think it's magic, either you misunderstood something, or got lied to and bought it. Or maybe you have a different definition of magic than I do.

@@Cynry , good stuff , insightful

Only to thee unexposed, like you.

Go research the internals and come back with an intelligent comment!

@@DJAraRealSalsa all your internals will all be external in the light

@@robertdesmondwarner458 Again, go research the internals and their relationship with the externals (yin and yang) and you will better appreciate the art of Tai Chi and internal kung fu styles in general.

@@DJAraRealSalsa No. you've been hoodwinked, happens all the time here in America, so we know when you need to put on our boots. This guy in the video is fools gold

@@robertdesmondwarner458 Unlike you, I have touched hands with internal kung fu practitioners, so I speak with personal experience and I will tell you one thing, in the beginning the way they dominate you by what seems to be a light touch is rather confusing, if not frustrating, and before you say that I was a victim of suggestions by the master, let me tell you that all I was expecting was a chi sao session and nothing more but I got the 'enlightenment' of my life! I guess that you won't know until you feel the 'touch' yourself and there is nothing wrong with that because there are not many people who have got the skill sets to demonstrate the internals but what is wrong is you and people like you making slanderous comments about an art that you do not understand!

How much are they paying you bro?

@@jdrex5039 We both know that's the fentanyl talking. Turn yourself in, cuzz.

@@tortillasarenotbiceps7622 wut?

You're aware this is not a self defense class? He's showing skills, body mechanics, doing it slow so people can feel in details what's happening. Once you have those skills, when you use them in actual fight, it's not as slow and flowery. Think clinching from muay thai at a slightly longer range, that would be pretty much it.

@@Cynry Wrong - it is a self defense class if you are practicing for a fight, as you mention. And when sped up, it is even more useless because the opponent won't be a compliant mannequin or living crash test dummy. This is why Tai Chi "masters" , et al, are destroyed in real fights.

@@davidm9618 Ok, you don't seem very open on the topic, but let's try anyway :D Taichi "masters" are getting destroyed because they aren't master of shit. It's not even proper taichi most of the time, just deluded people. I'm not defending those at all, they are a disgrace and are only helping in killing the style. Those are people that at best, only ever practiced the soft side of taichi, and completely forgot about the hard side. So yeah, facing resistance, they aren't worth anything as fighters. About the self defense aspect, I disagree. No way they are selling this as a self defense class, and no way anyone serious about self defense is going there for that. It's entirely your projection calling it like that, which of course puts you in a position to be critical toward something you don't seem to understand. Because yes, if they were selling this as a self defense class, I would be very critical too :D The skills shown in the video are not meant to be applied directly, and they won't make you a fighter by themselves. But they are still part of the ABC of taichi, and are fundamental to the practice. You may have read in my comment, "skills" as in a jab, a cross or something like that, which are direct fighting skills. The ones in taichi are lower level of abstractions, it's about power generation in general (think balance, coordination, that kind of things). So, for me, for exemple, I can't jab without using these skills, it's automatic at this point. But without the jab part, they wouldn't be fighting skills. That's what internal arts are about to me, and it's pointless to look at them the same way you'd look at boxing, which you seem to be doing by trying to imagine how what you see in the video would fare in a fight. I'll probably end up making videos about it, but I've tested my skills in real life situation a few times. Went to an MMA class, having done no actual fight training, and I surprised people a few times, teacher included, in all range of fighting, from kicks to the ground. In DA STREEETZ, I was described as "effective"... Soo yeah. I'd suggest opening up your mind a bit, but that's on you. I completely understand how it seems like BS, because let's be honest, most of what we see about taichi is BS, but the art itself is very much fine and does what it promises.

@@Cynry I don't need to be "open" to something for which evidence has demonstrated it to be nonsense. There is also no evidence that chi exists. Show me a real chi master fighting an MMA or BJJ or anyone else that has skills who won. Just one.

@@Cynry And you don't seem to realize that they ARE selling this nonsense as self defense - whatever speed it is performed at is irrelevant. In the street, tai chi is begging for an ass-kicking unless a tai chi practitioner is fighting weak drunks or little girls. In the streets you can never be at a high level of effectiveness with tough opponents without a lot of practice in the ring - using real martial arts, not 'spirit / chi ' energy bullshit. I have over 30 years experience in real martial arts and in my day never lost a street fight because those on the street are 99% of the time ineffective fighters (the 1% reserved for Tank Abbott who'd get drunk and pick street fights - I watched a few of them in person).

yes, drills. id hope the teacher youre learning from would have mastered the drills he is teaching at a workshop to new students wanting to learn the drills. this isnt a fight card. they are practicing learning drills. free push - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ja2daTwJswU.html asks him to try anything at certain points - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vHNYACQDpGY.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xeZApimwbn8.html& same student, years later - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GV1kN6hWkuM.html& ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Wor6QB4WKH0.html like most arts (wrestling, bjjitsu, boxing) you learn drills to get basics of the art so you can then move beyond them ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IshdPOdOstM.html different teacher showing free pushing - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5BwpsC2cnR0.html&

It is a seminar and not a fight for his life. The master is demonstrating the mechanics and the effects of internal kung fu, a methodology that you obviously have no idea about but are too egotistical and weak to admit it!

3:17 - 3:44 that's the part you need to understand. That's if you can wrap your head around the fact that its a class, and he's teaching, the students won't know what they're looking at if a teacher goes too fast at the start. Even Dan Inosanto, (any trainer) slows down the movements when training beginners. You going to say Inosanto is conning idiots out of their cash too?

That very last part though, that does raise an eyebrow. To believe that he'd have to do to me, only way to know for sure if it's not BS.

@@RowdyGrunt you're the type of dude who walks into a BJJ school and tries to kick people