Adding OEM Remote Start on a Chrysler / Dodge (read description)

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This install is on a 2014 Chrysler Town and Country but will apply to a 5th gen T&C or Caravan, and possibly other Dodge / Chrysler vehicles. I go through a minimal and a full install of the OEM remote start system (PN 82212896), without going to the dealer. I use a software package called AppCarDiag and a cheap ELM 1.5 bluetooth dongle. I used v1609 of AppCarDiag.
I THINK you can install the antenna without removing the dash, I felt as you can but I had the whole dash out when I did the install. Just snake the wire down toward the WCM / WINs module and you should be good to grab it from under.
The WCM / WINs, yes you do NOT have to take out the whole dash, I will link another video below.
This video is lengthy, but for stuff like this, I like to inform the watcher of the bumps I come across and the uncertainties as well.
Summary:
Minimal install (using no antenna and old WCM / WIN ignition box):
- hood pin harness connector: install resistor or hood pin switch
- read pin code from the WCM / WIN (ignition unit)
- program hood ajar active
- program remote start active
- program new fobik (key fob) with the remote start button (using pin code)
Full install (using an antenna for longer range and new WCM / WIN ignition box):
- hood pin harness connector: install resistor or hood pin switch
- read pin code from the old WCM / WIN (ignition unit)
- install the remote start antenna
- install the new WCM / WIN (ignition unit), new one has antenna port on back
- program hood ajar active
- program remote start active
- reset the WCM / WIN (ignition box) using the pin code you read off the old one
- program new fobik (key fob) with the remote start button (using pin code)
Links:
Software: appcar-diagfca...
WCM / WINs swap without dash removal: • Replacing the WIN modu...

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@arodgsr2 2 года назад

Been wanting this kit for so long! I have a 2013 T&C. The vans a freaking tank drives so good KOW lol. Purchasing this week!

@treyduval5399 Год назад

Thank you Shawn, I just got this working and am so happy. It also works from my house, so the range is good enough for me…now to figure out the auto dimming headlight sensor in the new rear view mirror I just popped in…

@sshawn09 Год назад

Glad to hear it!

@sshawn09 Год назад

Glad to hear it! Thanks for commenting!

@stevenbarber2703 Год назад

i have a 2014 chrysler town and country it has the remote start stock i love it alot drives so nice :)

@sshawn09 Год назад

They are great vehicles!

@MarksMusic123 11 дней назад

what drivers did you install for the cheap ELM?

@sshawn09 10 дней назад

@@MarksMusic123 my computer did not need a driver, windows 10 and Bluetooth worked fine

@Rileys_Art_Lessons 2 года назад

Hey Shawn. Which obd2 link did you use? Tried 2 without success. Btw great video. Thanks Dennis

@sshawn09 2 года назад

I actually got it back in 2014, bought it from ebay, it's a cheap Chinese one and generic but the description from back then says "Advanced ELM327 v1.5 Bluetooth Interface OBD2 Scanner Adapter TORQUE ANDROID" if you want I could take a picture and send it to you if you send your email address.

@MarksMusic123 Месяц назад

@@sshawn09 I'd like a picture , Your video is very generous, thanks so much-

@MarksMusic123 Месяц назад

@@sshawn09 and used windows 10 laptop?

@sshawn09 Месяц назад

@@MarksMusic123 no problem. What do you need a picture of?

@sshawn09 Месяц назад

@@MarksMusic123 yes win 10

@rafaelreyes8974 10 месяцев назад

🎉 hey thank you so much very interesting I have the same van and I do a lot of work myself.

@sshawn09 10 месяцев назад

You're welcome, if you decide to do the job it's not too bad. Enjoy!

@rafaelreyes8974 10 месяцев назад

@@sshawn09 thank you for the quick reply is there in way that you can send me the info about the remote start information really thanking about doing it to the family can. Thank you for ur time and info. Ps. I'm very handy.

@sshawn09 10 месяцев назад

@@rafaelreyes8974 what are you looking for exactly? Please read the description of the video, it may answer your open questions.

@rafaelreyes8974 10 месяцев назад

@@sshawn09 Thanks if I have any questions I will contact you Thank you

@kf-qj2je 5 месяцев назад

just got install done on van I recently got two things I had to do different is programable options are now in diagnostic list and I had to change remote start temporary disable to false.

@sshawn09 5 месяцев назад

Why false?

@kf-qj2je 4 месяца назад

@@sshawn09 false meaning it's not disabled instead of true it is disabled

@sshawn09 4 месяца назад

@@kf-qj2je ah gotcha. Thanks for the clarification and taking the time to provide that information.

@MarksMusic123 Месяц назад

what year is YOUR van? I want to do this on my van, 2014, and am trying to dot all I's and cross all T's before I begin.

@alanpierce2002 9 месяцев назад

Are all Chrysler OEM Wireless Ignition Modules compatible with remote start, or do you have to get one that is compatible? My WIM went out on my Chrysler and I have to replace it anyways. I'm just not sure if there's two types (ones with remote start, and ones without) or if they all do it. I saw an aftermarket WIM (Dorman) that says it's without remote start so I just wanted to see if you replaced the WIM in your system because it wasn't compatible with remote start?

@shawnschembri29 9 месяцев назад

I'm not 100 pct sure. From what I understand it seemed as if they were all compatible w remote start. The difference was that the new one had an external antenna port and it came.with said antenna. Because I was unsure if it would work, I had purchased the replacement. Not sure if it helps much, sorry.

@alanpierce2002 9 месяцев назад

@@shawnschembri29 ah so maybe some have the antenna plugin and some don't. Thanks!

@shawnschembri29 9 месяцев назад

@@alanpierce2002 that's exactly how I last understood it, yrs ago.

@1877DISH313dotCOM Год назад

So I tried the "shortcut method," but it didn't work for me. I took the hood switch from my old van, and turned on the hood switch and the remote start with the appcar. I also programmed a new key fobik with the remote start button. Everything works on the new key fobik, but not the remote start. It does nothing. No chirp. Nothing. I got a new fobik, because I tried using the key from my old van but when I tried to program it, the cluster said "bad Key." I know for a fact that both the hood switch are good because the key worked on my other van, so we can rule those out, but I got a new key anyway. My old van is a 2009 and the new one I'm trying to add remote start to is a 2012, if that makes any difference. Any suggestions? Thanks.

@sshawn09 Год назад

Hmmm, when you say everything works, you mean lock,unlock and normal start? Is there a possibility that hood sitch is not closing the circuit? Any dash signs when in vehicle and trying remote start? All doors must be closed and hood shut for it to work.

@1877DISH313dotCOM Год назад

@@sshawn09 HI Shawn. Thanks for the reply. Yes, lock, unlock, power doors and gate work. No indications in the dash when I try remote start. (Yes, I press it twice) I don't think it's the hood switch because, if it's like my old van, it would beep the horn once and then not start. To make certain, I did everything, here's what I did: 1) Installed hood switch (used, from my old van) 2) Enabled hood ajar switch and remote start with AppCar. And double-checked that they remained on by reconnecting with AppCar. 3) Programmed new key fobik which has a remote start button. (I bought a new one, since the key from my old van was deemed a "Bad Key" from the current van. Even though it still works on the old van. Strange.) 4) I did NOT install a WINS module. Is it possible I got a bad key fobik?

@sshawn09 Год назад

@@1877DISH313dotCOM hmm sounds like you got it all right. I wonder if there's a way to test that hood switch is talking to the ECU. Fobik could be bad but also not sure how to test. I'd say pop into the Facebook group or there's another website forum I can point you to that has some experts. I think it's called Chryslerminivan.net

@1877DISH313dotCOM Год назад

@@sshawn09 Thanks again, Shawn. I'll look into it further and post back the result. Your video and replies are very informative and much appreciated! Take care!

@polygaryd 2 года назад

I have been trying to turn on the remote start feature using this video as a guide. I bought the appcar diagfca. I have a used remote start win module from another 2011 t & c (mine is a 2012 t & c). I cannot get it appcar diagfca to reset the win using the pin from my old win. It gives an error. Also using my old win i cannot get remote start to work it just chirps once and locks the doors. I tested the hood ajar switch and it works (shows 1k ohms when pushed in). I tested the remote start while holding the switch down just to make sure it wasnt the switch not engaging all the way or something. I definitely selected hood ajar switch and set remote start to set in the appcar diagfca software. Not sure what's left to do. Also when not taking the dash all the way off to get the win out like they do in that other video you linked to i can tell you that it breaks the radio screw locations. So that method is garbage! So frustrated with all this.

@sshawn09 2 года назад

Sorry you are going through issues with this. If you think that the wins is not resetting correctly, perhaps the guys at appcardiag can get a hold of the logs and determine the cause of the issue?

@polygaryd 2 года назад

@@sshawn09im actually much more upset that the radio screw mounts in the dash are broken feom that video of "replacing the win without taking the dash apart" its not much more work to take the dash cover off maybe 30 to 40 extra minutes and have 0 damage. I contacted appcar diagfca and they said that some wins will not reset the pin. I guess I bought one that wont change its pin and its non refundable so thats wonderful. Do you you use a new win or a used win in this video?

@sshawn09 2 года назад

@@polygaryd uggh that's a bummer, sorry. I did the complete dash removal and used a new win from the remote start kit. I contemplated why I did that after because it seems that the only difference would be the external antenna and range. After installing it and realizing that I screwed myself when app car did not have the capability to program wins I had it hanging out and I did the method that you did for the reinstall. I do still have my own old wins but I feel I should keep it just in case of anything.

@polygaryd 2 года назад

@@sshawn09 i kept my original win and didnt install anything back into the dash yet. I disassembled (desoldered) and cleaned my original win got it back together and it seems to work well. The whole purpose of me replacing mine was because the van would shut off while. Driving and or wouldnt start. It sometimes would take 5 times of turning the key to get it to start and then it may or may not stay running. Wiggling the key would shut it off. So I figured why not add remote start and a host of other add ons since I have to get it programmed anyway. So I added the adjustable pedals, true 2nd row screen after finding a harness for the dual screen setup. I so far have only found one hd screen and the associated hdmi cable. I missed a bid on a true second row hd screen this morning. I was trying to add the external blu ray player but the harnesses are different from either different years or i need a different radio because the 2011 t&c i spent 4 hours taking the dash out of and unraveling to get to the dvd / blu ray player harness doesnt fit my 2012 radio. Back to the junk yard I go to get the proper harness hopefully if I can findone thats not cut up. But the used win with remote start antenna is a fail and remote start with my original win is for some reason a fail. Could be the key. Im using my oem 6 button key not a 7 button that was meant for remote start. Many say the OEM keys work you just reskin them which i did and all the remote start button does is act like like lock button. So I have proper 7 button keys coming.

@sshawn09 2 года назад

@@polygaryd that's a lot of upgrades, well done! The way that I learned about this reprogramming was a guy in Germany that's on one of the Chrysler minivan websites, you sound much like him where if there's a will there's a way. If you want I could try to direct you toward him he may have some ideas

@mikestrong82 3 года назад

i have a 2014 town and country too, my question is, if i pay for the software do i also need to by some kinda cable to be able to program the new ignition?

@sshawn09 3 года назад

I did it all with a Bluetooth OBD2 reader if you search on eBay or Amazon look for elm OBD2

@mikestrong82 3 года назад

@@sshawn09 so you can do all the stuff the software your using has to offer from a Bluetooth obd2 slot?

@sshawn09 3 года назад

So far I have not been limited on the Chrysler. I can say that on my Ford I needed a special switch on the OBD2 connector but I've never seen anything on the Chrysler yet. That would be a good thing to confirm with the company first

@quincokites9252 2 года назад

Hi, I have a question about turning on the hood ajar and remote start switches in the ECM, can this be done using a Snap-On diagnostic scanner plugged into the OBD2 connector Thanks !

@sshawn09 2 года назад

Usually those snap-on scanners have high capability, it all depends if the software will allow it to do what it needs to do. Not so much the scanner however those high-end scanners sometimes have the software built in as well. That's a question I can't answer

@quincokites9252 2 года назад

Thank you for your quick response. A friend has latest Snap-On scanner , I think the challenge will be finding the switch identification inside the ECU,

@sshawn09 2 года назад

@@quincokites9252 I believe the SW names aka sw switches should be labeled the same. The bridge that you need to cross would be if the scanner can access that particular ecu and query the correct labels... Basically... If it shows up you should have success.

@quincokites9252 2 года назад

@@sshawn09 Hi, I'll give it a try and report back , hopefully it'll help others.

@sshawn09 2 года назад

@@quincokites9252 that will be good! I'm curious myself. Take note of scanner model and software rev.

@lrocky223 Год назад

Do you have info on updating to a push button ignition switch?

@sshawn09 Год назад

I don't but there was a discussion on how to do it on www.chryslerminivan.net

@seantydingco 3 года назад

Shawn I followed your tutorial, and I did not get the new WCM module just using the stock one on my 2014 TC, set the values on the inputs and turned on remote start, plugged the new hoodajar sensor. No response to the remote start. Is there some other thing I am missing to set in appcardiag?

@sshawn09 2 года назад

Sorry I don't know why I missed this reply, I believe that's the only thing you need to use the OEM unit.

@seantydingco 2 года назад

@@sshawn09 thank you I figured it out, I had to go into another screen and turn it on so there was one more step i missed. Works great since been i have done this addon.

@sshawn09 2 года назад

@@seantydingco I'm glad to hear it! One of the most rewarding upgrades I think!

@seantydingco 2 года назад

@@sshawn09 absolutely. Also I ended up adding the adjustable pedals for my wife afterwards. That I the second best upgrade.

@sshawn09 2 года назад

@@seantydingco that's neat, I never drove a car with that, but I'm also taller than 6 ft so never felt I needed. More wish I could extend the seat back another 4 inches.

@mikelard Год назад

where do you get the software

@sshawn09 Год назад

Read the description of the video, shows the SW and the version used

@polygaryd 2 года назад

Ok so new news for anyone wanting to use a used remote start win module (cuz they are cheap ($25 from junk yard)). YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESET THE PIN ON A USED WIN ONLY A NEW WIN AS IN THIS VIDEO. Appcar diagfca can reprogram the win module to your car. Its a pita since they dont have offical instructions to do so and dont support the feature since its in beta phase. The instructions are different than the instructions in this video because he uses a new virgin win module and virgin keys. You must first read the pin, then erase the vin, then erase all the keys associated with the used win module, then you can run the replace win module routine, it will program the win with your cars vin. Then you need to run reset the win routine, then program keys. You may have to cycle the ignition inbetween every time you do something. I kept trying different things till things worked. I had many errors along the way so im not sure exactly the process. Im not sure I can recreate it now either since I dont have a used win that hasnt been programmed to my vehicle already. As it stands I have a key programmed to my old win and 2 keys (one virgin key and one key that was previously programmed to my original win) programmed to the used remote start win. I can now switch wins and without any programming and use all functions of the keys associated with the win that is currently plugged into the van. Also if you use a remote start equipped win you must use the remote start antenna or the keys on the fob wont work except right next to the drivers door. If you use a non remote start win then the remote start works but at about the same range the door unlock/lock buttons worked before.

@natewarren7236 Год назад

I’m looking to add remote start to my 2017 caravan using my original WIN module. Can the dealer or this software reprogram my fobs or WIN to allow my keys to work for remote start? Can a used key from another van be programmed to my vehicle? I have a hood switch and bracket installed in preparation for it.

@polygaryd Год назад

@@natewarren7236 you wont need to reprogram your fobs or your win module to use remote start. just add the options for remote start and the hood ajar switch in the software and it woks. If you want the long range antenna you need to change the win module and then you will have to reprogram the win to your vin, add the remote start and hood ajar features and reprogram your current fobs to the new win. Make sure to get the pin of the win modules first and write them down. If you want to reprogram used fobs this software can do it. The deal cannot (so they say) reprogram used win modules but this software can. I've done it on my 2012 t&c my self. You have to download the beta version of the software. Its a bit tricky but does work. You have to get the win pin then erase the vin then add the vehicle vin then you can have the ecm learn the win module then program your keys. It took a handfull of tries to figure out the procedure to get it to work.

@natewarren7236 Год назад

Thank you for the detailed response! This really gives me hope that the dealer will entertain my request when I go in. I will update this post when/if it happens

@polygaryd Год назад

@@natewarren7236 I dont think their software will do it. Only one other type of shop programming tool I've seen so far can do it. If you do it yourself with appcar diagfca, you can have the dealer then add remote start to your vin in their database though. Let us know though if they can do it or not and will do it or not.

@moshealex 3 года назад

I have a trouble to unscrew top screw. How you did it?

@sshawn09 3 года назад

I actually took off the whole dashboard but you only need to loosen it up. See if this helps you, there was another video I saw before that I couldn't find but it was similar to this... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YVglNFejhf8.html