ADHD Talk #2 💬 Misdiagnosed, Co-morbidities & Executive Function 

The great thing about doing these long interviews is that we can put them on and listen while we do other things. I love podcast style videos for this reason.

We are super sensitive and feel everything more intensely and connect to the world more on a spiritual level than the neurotypical people

The struggle is real. I'm a 52 year old woman recently diagnosed with ADHD and the only reason I qualified is because I was diagnosed as a child with 'minimal brain dysfunction' back in the day when it was very rare to diagnose a girl with it and assumed children outgrew it. I didn't outgrow it and now I am suffering the cumulative and delayed consequences of never receiving proper treatment for it.

I do chores while I listen to long podcasts! Do the long form too!! Long interviews are amazing 👏 😍 you are both beautiful human beings ❤️

Wow. The similarities are very much my story too. Deep conversations are the kind I need. People that can't consider the mysteries of the universe are just not my people 🤷‍♀️ getting older, I protect myself like my own parent 🥰 much more relaxing to exist when I put my needs first now that the kids are mostly grown.

He is describing MY exact experience. But I had NO IDEA there was a cause for it.

I dropped out of uni two times. I had great difficulty with starting to work on an assignment and later to do the exams. I also got bored with it in the end. I also lost every job I ever had because after a while I would get bored with it and start to be late at work. It's like all the other people would get better with time. But I would be excited and fully into it when I start something but then when I learned how it works I get bored. It's driving me nuts sitting there wasting my lifetime. Of hardly ever finished anything of great value in my life. As child I was the lonely introverted kid. I had one friend - that's it. I was mobbed from time to time but tried to keep a low profile so they would pick someone else. In school I would stare out of the window - even I was sitting in the first row. I parents always told me I am very lazy and I need to do homework and stuff. I had a hard time to understanding how being social works. All these other kids met up in big groups and seemed to have a natural understanding of these group dynamics. I had terribly low self-esteem - actually I still have low self-esteem. This gave me a hard time with girls. I was failing all their stupid tests because I would answer honest and self-critical. It was a matter of good behavior not to lie to a person I was interested in. Yeah, this doesn't work. With 28 I started to learn how to get better with women. I got addicted to picking up chicks. It would give me instant revards like a computer game and I loved it. I found a glitch in the matrix - a way to get lots of sex for free with all of these girls. My self esteem also went up. But then I realized I never had a real relationship and girls don't seem to consider me for this. Also I don't get relationships - I don't really get it emotionally why people choose each other. Being with this one person - as amazing as this person might be - for years and in an ideal way forever sounds scary to me. But I got a lot better in sozial situations. I can pass as an extrovert for a good amount of time as long as people don't spend too much time with me. I am completely time blind. Means I know how to schedule things - better than most people - because I have tried alot - but I fail with the execution 2-3 days in good times 2-3 weeks down the road. It's like I completely forget about these plans and my focus is now on something else. I was always like this. My half brother was normal - he had his own struggles sure, but he had normal person struggles. I always felt like an alien, like I am missing some important key aspect of life to really understand why people choose to do what they do. I manouvered myself into debt in my 20s and even I tried to be more self aware with money in my 30s I still just forget to pay recurring bills like gym memberships. I also forget about coffee cups I used. They are standing around everywhere. I'm just forgeting about it. And I was addicted to coffee too. I would drink up to 10 cups because it would help me to get stuff done. But then it would fuck up my sleep schedule big time. In general I have a hard time to maintain a sleep schedule I have the feeling I tend to be awake during the night and get sleepy during the day. I hate hierarchies or authorities. I not the person who tries to overthrow the leader and take his place I would just start to protest by working really slow. This is huge problem in a workplace. I've come across ADD a few days ago and it's intressting how much of this describes my life experiences. I went to psychologists before for anxiety and depression but they never gave me a real diagnosis or mentioned ADD. I never considered it because I thought that is the hyperactive kids disability. Kids are noisy - I hate them. Well, I don't really hate them but they are noisy and a pain in the ass. I really consider ADD right now. It would make so much sense.

This is great! I’m not alone! I when you mentioned about friendships, that was something I resonate with. I have always been more passionate in my friendships and never forged those deep friendships(from my perspective). Deep and meaningful conversations are another one! I typically seem to become antagonistic or breed debate in conversations because the same old small talk is very boring! Sensitivity is another one, overthinking another, lose interest or give up quickly, the list goes on… basically it’s nice to know we aren’t alone but getting a diagnosis is difficult in the nhs

Teacher called home early on in elementary school and said I was day dreaming back in 1980. Im now 48 (diagnosed at 36) its still hard feeling so alone in this world. It's from childhood trauma. I feel the same empathy is never returned on the same level.

"I get distracted by face' haha ME TOO. It's rude to not look people in the face.. but then when I do I stop listening.

Wish I could have watched this convo when I was a teenager, 20 years ago. So much resonates with me.

I can relate to what's mentioned in this conversation on so many levels it's almost emotional. Also, both of you guys are such beautiful souls.

I had a mental breakdown in the end of 2017. I stoped with school for one year In 2019 i finisched me bachelor communicatie arts. Had a breakdown again in the end of 2019 Just to finished school!!. During my thesis this mentaly was hard.......Thank god i almost wanted to quite... I was diagnosed with dyslectia when i was 4 old.. im proud that i came this fare in life

Fascinating. And helpful, guys. From me, whose been diagnosed at Sixty after a catastrophic ping pong bouncing from one thing to another life. And your channel is the one that helped me go ‘Click !”

Almost everything he said I related to. I'm even at the same point in life, had to drop out of uni and sort out my ADHD. I'd love to do an interview if you're looking for someone!

Could really relate to Dave's story about visiting with family and wanting to leave quickly. When I was a kid I was always known to escape from the dinner table as soon as I finished eating. It's really hard to not do that as an adult, but I can at least use my niece as a good excuse to these days.

as an adhd rat brain motherfucker, the need for a deep and meaningful is so strong with me. my friends have noticed i just do a “walk off” and it became a bit of an inside joke. i constantly walk off from conversations, especially at parties, for more interesting shit to talk about. not in a rude way, just in a subtle way.

Wow, I’ve always my whole life wondered why I felt different from other, couldn’t comprehend certain things, and could not concentrate. Now at 45, I know the reason for these things.

Thank you so much for sharing your story, resonated with so much of it. I'm 40 and my 'mid life crisis' has been discovering I have ADHD. In the process of getting a diagnosis but I don't need it. I've never resonated so much or had my brain/way thinking and operating expianed so well. I'm absolutely typical ADHD. Have spent 2 years hyperfocusing on learning everything I can about it and now find myself spotting others a mile off. It's been such an emotional, self analysing, enlightening time. And also realising how much of myself I have masked to fit in and now rediscovering the real me. These conversations are so important to hear and such a reassurance there's others out there that totally get the daily struggles (and the hilarious moments- I'm grateful to my ADHD for the entertainment)

I actually got diagnosed after getting really bad and low in my life like you. I still have panic attacks. Then I stared ADHD meds concerta, and things very slowly started to get better. Just don't stop :) your very much worth it. We all are .

SO much of what Dave says resonates with me too. If you ever need another person to interview, I'm here mate.

100% mirrors my life issues. Alot of stuff I blamed on being adopted before my late in life diagnosis.

yeah I love the interviews because I can let them play while I work. Thank you for making these!

Parts of this was equally beautiful and hard to listen to. Recognizing a lot of my life through what the both of you share. Thank you for this, thank you so much. We are, as individuals, most probably a lot better than what we make ourselves believe.

Gwan Davey lad. It's super important this, not just for men but for Teesside men (Teesside having the highest rate of male suicide in England). Keep up the good work on this channel x

When he mentioned getting distracted by persons face, I felt guilty cause I was distracted by his moustache. So I started listening without watching the video itself

I admit it. I watched the whole Adhd Talk #1 all the way through, but it was because I very interested in the conversation, even with the distracting internet and cat (you twisting your yellow earbud cord had me going "squirrel" a couple times, as well as your guest's fantastic mustachio-ed look lol) Loving these btw. keep it up.

We love learning, and want to share that passion with others

We should build our own community it would probably flourish...

Due to my issues, I was once diagnosed with being bipolar. I had generalized anxiety (probably because of ADD) and my Dr. put me on Paxil. The Paxil ended up making me manic. Then I crashed into a major depression. I went to a psychiatrist and they decided I was Bipolar and put me on Depakote which was horrible (My mind started Fking around with me) After about a year, I had an appointment with the psychiatrist and she was an hour behind. After about 45 minutes a thought came into my head "there's nothing wrong with me" I walked out and never went back. I stopped taking the Depakote. SInce I was off all medication, I went back to normal and just dealing with ADD. I was seeing a CBT for a bit and that helped. All of this was about fifteen years ago. Now I'm finding that it was all because I had undiagnosed Inattentive ADHD.

I was finally diagnosed with inattentive type about a month ago, and when he was talking about how he isn't really into the parties/gatherings because he isnt really into the small talk type stuff, I really related to that. Just went to a bon fire the other night with a a few friends and their friends. And, I felt like I just couldnt connect with the anyone there because there was so much going on and I just couldnt follow along with all of their conversations. Anyways, I ended up making a fool of myself with my awkward one word answers and not knowing how to answer some questions. Honest to god, I really did try to follow along with everything, but I just couldn't. I wasn't trying to, but I'm sure I seemed really standoffish.. and maybe kind of dumb. Having adhd as an adult really is way worse than I ever thought, because the social anxiety that comes with it is the worst. I really wish that I could just be normal at parties and like ..talk to people?? How is it so natural to other people?!

Absolutely love this video, thanks!

I live in a large city in Scotland and they do not offer support for ADHD in this region. I've wasted my whole life and think I will have to self medicate. Thanks for the videos. Keep it up

Cheers for this fab video I was finally diagnosed with adhd/add combined yesterday so pleased to finally get answers to my school life and why my life as an adult. Your videos are awesome thank you

Excellent interview. I’m really enjoying your videos. Keep up the great work. Much love from Australia.

I was diagnosed with Anxiety in late primary school

Just realized myself about a week ago. Your videos are helping me with my awareness of this. It’s so helpful to listen to others like this. I actually find myself focusing on every word and it is helping me so much. Thank you.

We want deep and meaningful connections and not everyone does.

Neurofeed back is really helpful

I’m on Lexam 20mg have been for over 20 years and I treat the ADHD with caffeine and energy drinks. CBT doesn’t work the same way for those with ADHD as it works on changing mindsets which isn’t always possible with our past traumas.

Wow it’s incredible how much I see of my personality I see in you two. Some things a bit different but incredibly similar. Thanks a bunch!

I just got diagnosed about 4 hours ago after years of procrastinating on going to a doctor. I've been self medicating with nicotine and caffiene for years, and just got a prescription for methylphenidate which im gonna give a try this week.

Love these kinda videos I Deliver Pizzas and I listen while I drive

By the way! You deserve payment for your work! I wish You a great reward for this channel!

BTW really enjoying these interviews. It's great to listen to other peoples' life experiences:)

Wow why are we all the same Im always bullied at work because I focus and good at my work that's all I'm good at

Just halfway through and I already would like to talk to you guys... XD Figured out a week ago that I probably have ADHD and I'm 38... Many problems my whole life and it starts to make some sense now.

Amen...Fuck'em! Most people don't understand and check ya in on the clock! The USA isn't as good on the matter as you would think! I appreciate you as well...

I have ADD, the overfocused version I think... I am a bit out from the IQ bell curve on the right side but I had problems with sitting down and reading my homework or for tests... I always felt like my body somehow stops me from doing what I'm meant to do in the world... it is like a prison really. I am highly creative and now I get why... instant product... Musik ... I guess having musik, painting would be enough but I am also addicted to friendships but yet I cant care enough for them... If I would be not pretty faced , plus the brightness, I would have been diagnosed, medicated, and I would feel less lost in the last 20 years... I was a nice, pretty wild child who is just lazy, fun, crazy and rebellious when in fact I was just masking, felt shamed for my clumsiness,4 my silly, excited talk, I was hiding a lot in my shell fearing rejections but came out when I recharged... i guess You people in similar shoes, know exactly this...

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26:30 We get a PHD in problem solving with a lifetime of adhd 😅 When youve lost how to find something say in a filing system to where you litterally looked in every drawer and file to find what you need, you learn things along the way 💡people think I'm physically coordinated, but it's really, when you've knocked enough things off the table you know it's going to happen and have a pretty good chance of catching it in mid air at the age of 42. I practice at clumsy i guess 😉 or misjudging how close something is and have to contort arpund things to avoid a huge bruise 😂🤸‍♀️

Such an honest initiative

just got diagnosed at 25, feels weird

I see myself in Dave, even the way he talks, he has a nicer beard though.

Holy christ this really resonates with me!! I have been trying to get diagnosed for years. Is there a way to get in touch with Dave as I live local to Middlesbrough and would love to get some advice.

I was born in distress too ! Gee.

damn boi where u get them lashes done??

Im trying to pass my driving lessons, but I cant, Im so unmotivated to do anything..

No you don't fit because of the system ❣️❣️ BIG hug, (doing catching up on videos if this was a while ago🤷). Not alone though & I know how it feels to (seems like many do). Omg yes empathetic & one sided "friendships"... Still looking for my tribe... Small talk eww

different drugs are so easy for my adhd brain to fall in love with. whatever stimulates, and whatever’s easy on my stomach. ciggies and alcohol aren’t good in the stomach, but weed.... Weed makes my brain so buzzy and filled with random shit which is very nice, very stimulated. it was better once i learned how to calm the crazy thoughts down. it makes my stomach numb and gives me munchies, super good for weight gain which i desperately need. but addiction didn’t take too long to take hold. for 5 months i did it with breaks in between, but then for the next 6 months i had no breaks, and had to quit with the most shit withdraw. the smoke ruined my voice a little bit, which sucks because singing is my greatest talent. it’s getting better at least. it was a great fucking time but i’m not getting to that point again. weed is a tool, i’m not.

My mother was a smoker. I wasn’t born prematurely and I was breastfeed, however I was immediately flown to a different hospital after birth due to meconium aspiration. So there’s that. 🤷‍♂️

I'm a monkey hanger i thought i knew that accent. I can relate I'm waiting to get assessed for ADHD on the NHS

I'm not convinced that America is handling ADHD better than the UK. It wasn't until undiagnosed ADHD got the best of me and I wound up homeless and on Medicaid when it was finally diagnosed. Leading up to my current circumstances I had a decent career with the same company for 15 years and the same CBT therapist for 10 years. It is also estimated that 25% to 40% prison population suffers from ADHD and approximately 24% of Americans will experience at least one bout with homelessness.

Welcome to ADHD buddy another great video

What’s your MBTI I think I’m an INFJ and my shadow is ENFP and many of us have ADHD

Me watching his eyelashes lol *distracted*

jeez... we are so similar 💚

Fuck, so relateable

Does Dave have a youtube channel?

Neurodiverse individuals are late bloomers. I’m 41 but with a 25 yo brain and I’m female.

Shout-out to the Teesside drop-outs!

Better that your mum does get checked ADHD is 90 percent genetic

He's spot on....but wow is this boring!!! Moving on...