Totally disagree......once getting the knipex I never use the crescents wrenches. One hand operation works great on the knipex and they grip really tight!
A lot of people I talk to love the Knipex and say they never slip on them. I enjoy getting everybody’s perspective on the tools. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
The cheater pipe thing is something I meant to mention in this video actually. Definitely an advantage for the adjustable. Who hasn’t done that on occasion lol
Good morning from the Great State of Texas. I have stopped using adjustable wrenches and I use my channel lock pliers everyday. I still have my adjustable wrenches, I just keep them in my truck of at home. I enjoyed your review and you are right, adjustable wrenches do have their place.
you must be doing something wrong with the plier wrenches, i stand on the back of my 10" set maybe once a month to pop a fastener loose and they always stay locked on. they never slip out of adjustment, they will crush a fitting before rounding it off, they squeeze so hard that if your alignment is off a little the fastener is turned straight inside the jaws. I have had cases in the past where using them on too small of a bolt head will prevent the self tightening action, but those are so small that 10" is overkill anyway. only thing an adjustable wrench is good for is an impromptu hammer in comparison
They definitely squeeze hard. I’ve actually used them for bending metal straight a lot. I know you can stand on them and lock them on to a fastener, but they have popped off on me in awkward spots where an adjustable wrench has not. They work well a lot of the time, but my adjustable wrenches work every time. That’s why I like them better. Thanks for watching!
I've had them slip off plenty of times. I'd never trust standing on it but I wouldn't hesitate to stand on my adjustable. Good quality adjustable wrenches are far better. Get a little grit or dirt in the pliers wrench and you're having a bad day. They also don't make great hammers...adjustable do. Sure they are old tech...there's a reason for that.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. LOL No matter how wrong. It all depends on the angle. Lots of plumbing is straight in access. The knipex are not designed for that. Knipex are awesome. And the jaws have a smaller profile than same adjustable and get on your gas fittings. But you gotta have space for it. I hate old style adjustable ones, I just keep trying wrenches till I find the one that fits if no room to get the knipex in. The basin wrench is usually my go to for plumbing in tight spots. If you can’t see it I’m not too worried about the finish Agree on the pricey comment though
They are very well made tools. I think it really depends on what you do. I have used them for gas fittings before, but like you said, you have to have room for them. My main gripe with them is that you really have to hold the handles together in a lot of situations, and that is aggravating to me when I’m reaching somewhere in a crawl space and I’m back holding with another wrench in the other hand. With my good quality adjustables, I can get them on the fitting and not worry about it. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
You must work new construction. Cuz as a service plumber we hardly ever have enough room.. because you pretty much said that they are situational. Meaning they're not a replacement they're just more of a good idea and will save you on occasion. So a solid big adjustable wrench for that s*** that it just can't do. And then the two small ones you take care of your normal easier fasteners. Now as far as gas pipe I don't know the ones you're working on. But normally we have to take a big ass monkey wrench to it. Like I said I guess if it's brand new and you ain't got to do all that. But when you're having to break loose something that's been there for I don't know They say 10 years yeah you need something with a little bit more leverage!
I think you need to give the knipex another try. Ever since I got mine I threw the crescent wrenches in the boat and wifes car. I never timed myself but the time I save using the pliers wrench pays for its high cost.
I really tried to live those pliers man. They just aren’t my cup of tea. I know they are great quality, and a lot of people love them. What works the best for you is all that matters. Thanks for watching!
One thing I’ve found adjustables are good for is when you want to back up whatever you’re tightening. You can set the adjustable to the backup fitting and then use the wrench pliers to do the actual turning action on the other.
I use both types all the time. The Knipex are wonderfully handy for mini presses…and I have an old USA Craftsman big ass adjustable wrench. Like you said…when you need one, you need one!
I sold my bigger Knipex, but kept the small ones and I mainly use them for what you are talking about. They are great for pressing and bending metal. You can make a lot of pressure with those jaws. Gotta have the big ass wrenches!
I collect Adjustable wrenches made by Western Forge, specifically for Craftsman USA, Proto and Mac though they had made for others. 18" is my favorite size to use. But I do love the Knipex pliers wrenches as well. The largest Knipex opens so much larger and it has the positive grip its almost like having a small narrow vice in your hand. Specifically I was pressure testing some -24 hydraulic hoses and my 18" doesn't open enough for the nut but it does open enough for the plug so I was using the knipex on the fitting nut because the vice is mounted on the other side of the shop from the tester. I recommend having 2 of every size adjustable and plier. Anyways I'm rambling, but I don't think theres a reason to not have both styles.
I do think that the knipex are most useful as a kind of mini press/vise. I know what you mean. I also love the western forge adjustables from back in the day. Still looking for some Mac and Proto ones!
Definitely a spot for both in my tool box. Although, I’ll trade out the Milwaukee for my Snap On wide mouths, love them. And I use it on occasion, but mostly I grab either the Knipex or a Wera Joker adjustable wrench. I have lots of room in my toolbox lol
I have the same Channellock Crescent wrenches that are made in Spain and I’m super impressed with the quality. It’s has the same quality as my old PROTO & USA made Crescent wrenches that I have. I do have the black oxide versions of those Channellocks & I do really really like them!
The channellock wrenches really are awesome. I love them and the milwaukees. I also have a Bahco one that is really good. I think Bahco might actually be the company that makes the channellock ones in Spain.
@@realworldtoolreviews This Channellock wrenches are made in Spain by Irega. They are producing only adjustable wrenches. I have three sizes with reversible jaws, for working on pipes. They provide excellent grip on round pipes. They are very well made.
@@fuloplehel I have thought about getting one of those reversible ones before. That’s a pretty cool idea to have that with you to save you from having to go grab a pipe wrench in a pinch.
I'll have to try the Milwaukee. I didn't know they made them. I do have DeWalt 10" and they are 'tight' and my go to for medium work as I don't have to retighten them once adjusted initially (not sloppy at all). I never looked to see if there were smaller of the same, but I have thought I'd use them if so. They are metal with no inserts at the handle but they have a matt-like finish which is easy to grip. I'm not a fan of chrome as I don't like the slippery factor, especially if they get wet and yet that is what protects them from rust. I'd rather have the grip when using a wrench.
I am a Knipex fan-boy, but I don't really like the pliers-wrench. I try. Really I try... but I keep reaching for my Milwaukee adjustable - the best adjustable I have ever used. I don't have a problem with the pliers-wrench slipping, I just find it annoying to adjust to size. I don't find adjusting the Cobras (which I love) to be annoying, but there really isn't anything else out there - water-pump pliers are always annoying to adjust (unless they are automatic, but those really really desperately suck) but for smooth jaws, when I have an alternative that is so easy to use one-handed (the Milwaukee adjustable) I just keep reaching for that. By the way... I'm a millwright and I'm the wrong guy to try to impress with a 'big wrench'. I have a set of adjustable wrenches that go up through 12" to 15" to 18" (like yours) to 24". I use my 24" adjustable regularly. I know they make larger ones (up to 36", that I have seen in catalogues) but I have never personally seen a larger one. Don't get me started on my pipe wrenches. Love the Milwaukee Cheater, though.
I know the feeling. I love Knipex too, and I wanted to love the pliers wrenches, but I am the same way. I just kept grabbing the Milwaukee adjustable. Those things are so good. Thanks for watching!
I can understand where your coming from as far as torque an adjustable wrench is stronger and heavier there’s no question about that but the huge benefit of the Knipex pliers wrench is they open up really wide wider than a regular size adjustable wrench.
I agree that is probably the coolest thing about them. I do have some Bahco and Channellock adjustable wrenches that open extra wide though. I really like those ones. I will say the smaller plier wrench has been coming in handy for me lately.
I just watched Torque Test channel test the Knipex pliers wrench, and your right it looks like they slip and mar when things are really tight and your not gripping the bottom. I honestly am not a fan of crescent wrenches only cuz growing up I hated using them, but I'm still looking for a good alternative.
Thanks for mentioning that video. I just watched it, and they do a good job of showing what I was talking about. You definitely have to squeeze the handles a little when you wrench really hard. Adjustable wrenches aren’t perfect, but the high quality ones are way better than the cheap ones. I like those milwaukees for the money, and I have a Bahco one that I really like too. I might try the wera joker wrenches next. Maybe they are the alternative you’re looking for.
Sorry, but i disagree, when i started maintenance on aircraft i had a crescent wrench. Now i threw them away. Not only are knipex more conveniant for access and everything, but you can use them to remove bearing and bushing and so on.
Thats cool man. Whatever tool gets the job done for you is a good tool. We all do different stuff. I like to get everyone’s different perspective. Thanks for watching!
..I’ve always hated ‘Monkey wrenches,’ but have the same lineup you’ve shown. My Husky’s are identical ‘adjustables,’ and my Knipex lineup as well. The harder you press adjustables, the loser ..and more bolt rounding they get (though the higher-count thumbwheel is slightly better). The Knipex, exact opposite.. And with their ability to let-up & reset instantly ..dang, wish they’d been around when I was your age 🙂 PS, hope all’s well, I miss your content ..up here on the blue ridge
A lot of people love them, and they are definitely well made tools. Everybody is different, and what works for you is all that matters. Thanks for watching!
Used 7” pliers wrench on smaller tube fittings, them shits were slipping even w that. Imma stick w the regular adjustable wrench. I don’t see why anyone needs the pliers wrench anyways if a knipex cobra will not slip on ANY size. P.S. those orange handle crescents are GARBAGE. Totally ruined the brand for me I’m afraid to buy anything crescent now
I’m glad that I am not the only one that has had that experience. And yes those Chinese crescent wrenches are terrible. The USA crescent tool company was awesome, but they are just a Chinese junk brand now.
I have both the pliers and the milwaukees, it depends on what you like. I do enjoy the milwaukees more since they don't back off as the crescent wrenches do. I also use my milwaukees to hold small pipe so I can solder them. I can't do that with the plier wrenches
Yea I think that am adjustable wrench is just more useful. Like all tools, it depends on what you do and what you like, but I think the good ole adjustable wrench is just a superior design.
They are definitely different tools. Personally I like to use the adjustable for everything that I would need that type of wrench for, but I know a lot of people work differently. If it gets the job done for you, it’s a good tool. Thanks for watching!
I have looked at those. They seem really cool, but quite expensive. I may try those out one of these days though. They seem like a neat idea. Thanks for watching!
The pliers wrench is great on doing breaking loose and adjusting tie rod ends during alignment’s. Would never consider using an adjustable wrench for that job.
You’re wrong about the cost argument: it’s the cost of one e.g. 180mm pliers wrench vs multiple high quality adjustable wrenches sized 8” or 10” and smaller. Because the jaws on the pliers wrench have such a big range, each one replaces several adjustable wrenches. You can put a pipe over the pliers wrench handle too. The nut or bolt will round off before the pliers wrench breaks.
Idk bro those plier wrenches are crazy expensive, they don’t fit in tight spots, and they are annoying to use with one hand. That’s just me though. I know lots of people love them and they are very high quality. I just personally think they are way overrated.
@@realworldtoolreviews yeah, I realised I’ve been trying to convince myself I should get a knipex pliers wrench.. and trying to imagine the best size. The 180mm one seems too heavy & awkward. Approx 2.4 times heavy as 125mm pliers wrench I think. A lot more than 180mm Cobra compared to 125mm cobra. I decided 150mm pliers wrench is the sweet spot, but I flip flop on the decision. Latest thinking is get the cobra XS & an adjustable wrench.
I had never heard of those, but they do look pretty good. I just looked them up. I’ll definitely add them to the list of viewer suggested tools to try out. Thanks for watching!
They are made in Spain by Irega. I have three sizes with reversible jaws, for working with pipes. They are very well made. Irega only produce adjustable wrenches. But I have the Knipex plier wrenches and sometimes they are better for me.
@@realworldtoolreviews If you need the cash by all means sell them. To be honest I always wanted to try those pliers, but have been too happy with my Klein adjustable wrenches spend the dough. Nice video man.
you can tell by so many things in your video, but the main one being that the soft laser etched lettering is still on the grips. if you grew up with crescent wrenches there is a learning curve. you dont know how to use knipex and are not really entitled to an opinion. just a typical american tradesman (and all the stereotypes that entails judging by your speech and mitts)
😂 maybe you’re right. Like I said in the video, I did not use them very much. Trust me, I wanted to like them considering the amount I paid for them. I just don’t like them, and I think a quality adjustable wrench is way better when you really need it to hold on. I have and love a lot of Knipex tools, but those just don’t do it for me. Thanks for watching!
Hua...ha....ha... Right. You are not fully grown yet. If you can prove the plier wrench pop up on you on video, I buy your plier wrench double the price you paid for!
Everybody works differently. In my experience the Knipex lock on great if you have plenty of room and you can put a lot of force on them, but as soon as I get them in an awkward spot where I can’t put a bunch of weight on them, I always have to keep holding the handles together and it drives me nuts.
Crescent was bought out by a Chinese company. The Crestoly alloy they claim their wrenches were made of is gone. The quality is not there anymore. It's a zombie brand. A Chinese company is parading around in Crescent's skin to take advantage of it's established reputation with consumers like so many brands these days. Milwaukee included. I know this because I grew up with American made Milwuakee, and I have purchased, used, and own some TTI made Milwuakee products. Are all their tools bad? No, obviously they get the job done. Certain products have suffered reductions in overall quality compared to what I have enjoyed with the previous owner's products. Do your research before you buy a tool. Read reviews and examine it yourself in person if you can. The Knipex plier wrench is great and I need more substantial proof than personal preference. The video just proves to me that you prefer adjustable wrenches. They are familiar and you are more efficient in your use with familiar tools. To make a more compelling argument. You need to demonstrate how the Knipex pliers are "failing" to meet your needs. Also demonstrate how the adjustable wrench is the superior option to use in your situations.
There will definitely be a follow up video to this one. Stay tuned. I know the milwaukees aren’t made in the USA but I just love the design of them. I have some channellock and Bacho ones that I love as well. Thanks for watching!
