Pretty impressed with basicly no wear on the Fujiya cutters after cutting the screw. That is a sign of a tool you invest once in and never need to buy a new one.
I've always been a hire-a-handyman guy. Being hit hard financially from the pandemic, I've been doing way more around the house/garage. These videos really help me figure out the best tools for the price and how to use them properly. I'm learning that buying cheap crap is exactly what you get and not worth it. I want the tools I buy now to last a while. Thank you Project Farm, subbed.
Dang dude, you even went as far as exploring their point of failure! You have to be the kindest, mad scientist there is! And the world needs you! Bravo!!!
I was one who recommended this and I’ve been patiently waiting for it. Honestly I’m not surprised Channellock did well. Most my common used had tools are Knipex, Channellock and Klein. As for lineman’s specifically I use Knipex and for the price I’m disappointed IMO they lost to Channellock but I’m glad a USA based tool company is still making quality tools. Great review keep them coming !
Likewise. I use klein and knipex bc they're usually the top dawgs in pliers. They also feel amazing in hand. Howeverz PF just proved on the last couple that channellocks outperform.
All the US and German pliers did well, and these tests don't expose the minute differences that you'll experience while holding them for hours a day. Linesman's pliers are colloquially called Kleins for a reason.
I've been following this channel for years and it's amazing one of my favourite go to channels, and so happy to see even after 2 million subscribers, The people behind the channel are still humble and same dedication, honesty, curiosity that they've been for years, Nothing but respect and best wishes guys keep it up 👍
@@ProjectFarm great video man! We use the Doyle pliers a lot and have found they are the easiest to exchange if something does happen but rarely do we need that warranty. I am a fan of the Vampliers though too 👌
One thing about the Vampliers, you can use them to take out flush mounted stripped screws, which I think is unique to them. It's saved me several times and they're also very tight and well made. Great video again PF!
I got a full set of them just for using as screw extractors, everything they do as pliers is just gravy for me. I can't bring myself to really abuse then tho
Always the best channel for stuff people actually use. You do a great job of making tests as objective as possible, within real-world limits and always address "hidden" features that may be a make or break.
I would love to see you test different Multi-tool pliers. This would be a bit difficult due to the wide variety of built in tools but a multi-tool show down would be amazing!!!
I fascinated with all these videos, I'm a HVACR tradesman and have an interest in quality tools. These quick straight to the point tests are very well done! I'm sure much work is involved in editing these videos not to even mention the tests. Thank you for your hard work sir! Much appreciated!
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A tiny amount of wobble isn't an issue if the shears are designed to be offering a straight cut when the wobble is absorbed under load. If the joint is sticky then it's making the tool a lot harder to work with.
I absolutely love this channel. I’d like to see your catch-phrase used at a wedding! Her: “I promise to always love, cherish and honor you”. Him: *looks at the camera “We’re gonna test that!” :)
Thanks for the awesome video, Todd! I bought some Channel-locks recently to replace another set of Channel-locks that grew legs and wandered off to see the world. Glad to see they measure up fairly well.
I love your grip and twist test! It’s well thought out and reflects a common real world application of this kind of pliers. Awesome job as usual! Actually, every single test was spot on! You applied a realistic grip of 100 lbs which reflects a grip someone strong can actually apply. You selected the most common electrical wire these pliers would be used on. You showed how well the cutting edge held up after each test, and you pushed them to failure to find their weak points and to serve as an accelerated cutting edge wear test. Your test methods are quantitative and repeatable with a little qualitative commentary mixed in as needed. This is the gold reference comparison.
Before finding this video, I had purchased the Vampliers. I had snapped an exhaust stud on my motorcycle and I needed something that would grip strong to back it out. They did the job with no effort. Since then they've become my go-to pliers and they never fail - incredible.
Never imagined I'd love a pair of pliers like I do my Engineer Nejisaurus (Vampliers if you're American). Only thing is once you buy a single Japanese tool it becomes an obsession, the difference in quality is instantly apparent as soon as you hold them
yep. i came across nepros brand by KTC. its ratchet wrench makes snap on look like chinesium ratchet wrench. the build quality of Japanese tools is truly equal to none. plus Nepros is cheaper than snap on. lol
A suggestion for videos, time stamps for the results. I often go back to old videos and I find myself scrubbing along to find the graphs. If you put timestamps on the video it would be pretty convenient. Thanks a bunch! This is still one of the best channels on YT.
I've actually always had really good luck with Channel Lock tools. The fact that they seem to be pretty well built and engineered along with the fact they're made in the USA sealed the deal for me. Your videos have only served to further convince me that as I buy new tools that they are a first choice purchase and to go to tool. Thank you for all of the hard work you put into these.
A suggestion: Many of your tests track two things at once. For example, cutting force/damage to cutter. You could use a double bar graph so we can check both things at a glance when comparing. Excellent work!
Check out the Channellock 546 slip joint, for some reason Channellock makes them hard to find but mechanics will tell you it's their most often go to tool.
I switched a lot of my tools to knipex and have really been impressed with them. The warranty is amazing, some of my guys have sent some very miss used and abused tools back and they always replace them without question. They’re not cheap but you only ever have to buy them once as long as you don’t lose them.
@@htr5372 where have you had issues returning Knipex items? At the dealer I use I’ve seriously turned in some tools that obviously should not have been used the way they were and haven’t ever had any resistance on replacement. Not even by me but guys on my crew, they replace them without question every single time. Maybe it’s different with different dealers or areas?
@@htr5372 ah, okay. I always go through a second party but I figured they’re just sending them back to the manufacturer anyways if they’re letting me return them so easily. They never want to take back my Kleins for some reason, I have to go through a different place for that. Maybe I’ll just start sending them directly to Klein.
I have always loved your videos but my favorite part is how you come up with the testing methods and provide a graph. Infotainment is underrated and deserves more support. In my shop I have used Dewalt pliers for many years cutting copper wire was the hardest use it ever saw and a few years ago I bought a set of Doyle pliers from Habor Freight to keep in my handyman travel bag. I got to say I have been impressed with the quality of this new Harbor Freight tool line.
A multitool test would be awesome. I spent close to $1000 before figuring out which I prefer (leatherman surge). I have carried a multitool everyday for around 7 years.
I own many different types of pliers- many are specialty items, but I probably have 50 that are within reach on my bench. Mostly Snap-On, but Vampliers are my GO TO for removing broken fasteners. They are made in several sizes, and are on my “must own” list. As the first test implied, their ability to remove broken fasteners is second to none- and I own left hand drill bit and every gizmo that has been made for this job… BEST WISHES TO EVERYONE!
Timestamps for Graphs 5:41 Gripping Strength on Socket Extension 5:47 Weight 7:44 Gripping Strength on Screw 9:24 Force to Cut Copper Wire 9:48 Leverage of Cutters 11:13 Force to cut 16 penny nail 13:08 Force required to cut Exterior Screw 15:30 Failure Load
@@ProjectFarm Suggestion for graphs when items are cut - add a 2nd color graphed line to show how much damage the cutter knife had. This gives context to the amount of force used to cut the bolt or wire.
@@ProjectFarm What in tests kept vampire out of mention in top. They seemed to do very well and price at $45 is higher than Doyle but way lower than Fujiyama. In just about every category they were in top 3, except cutting. In which case I suspect they need to be sharpened or in my case I'd get out Dremel. The big thing is they grip and are hard to break. They are near three times as tough as channel lock, btw. IMHO, Vampire made the grade. Doyle at $18 is super value. Doyle is what I own. If money was not issue, I'd pick up Vampire as I often find situation where I need their clamp force to twist/turn something loose.
There’s nothing I hate more than the cutting blades on my pliers getting all boogered up! I’ll be referencing this video next time I buy a new pair. Thanks Todd!
I don't think the testing methodology is necessarily an endorsement. It's meant to be a relative strength comparison. None of these are good cutters, and they weren't meant to be. They're multi use pliers for cutting of soft or medium hardness materials only.
I just purchased a DeWalt battery powered lawn mower. Not as impressed as I thought I would be. I honestly would have waited until ProjectFarm came out with a comprehensive review of the available battery powered lawn mowers in the market. A las I couldn’t wait any longer since my wife and I just purchased our first home and don’t want to be regarded as the neighbors that don’t keep up their lawns. That is why I am pleading that ProjectFarm help us homeowners by posting such a review as soon as possible. Thank you for all your hard work and honesty. You are a RU-vid tool reviewer I trust and regard highly. Keep it going!!!
Follow-up, I ended up purchasing the EGO 21” Inch Select Cut XP Cordless Lawn Mower. The difference is quality of build and self-propel feature against the DeWalt are incomparable. EGO really does dominate the lawn care market in terms of battery powered tools. I already have the snowblower and that machine works well too. Should have shelled out the extra cash from the get go. Lesson learned.
Another interesting, informative video. Seems like the Fujiya has the most durable jaws which, to me, would be most important. Love to see you do a test of the top brands where you make like 50-100 cuts through the romex or nail and see which blades hold up as this seems the most typical use case. You could base results on both visual inspection and increase in required force from first to last cut.
100% would like to see how they hold up to at least 50 cuts! This would be the most useful test possible for these tools. I don't envy him having to film that tho. 😂
I agree, one screw cut and most of those were trash, I hate having to use a different part of the cutter because it is damaged I always buy another at the first opportunity.
Personally I'd say force required to cut is the most important for me, so long as they' have reasonable durability. I'd rather put less load on my hands and replace it more often than have it last longer. The Fujiya seem great though, as the force is low as well as being durable.
I am an electrician and have the Klein HD sidecutters. I use them everyday and based on what I use them for (cutting strength). The channel lock pliers are what I'm buying next. Don't waste money on super expensive pliers and if you use them everyday, definitely do not buy cheap brands. Thank you so much for your videos. Great incite!
Another great video. I'm a professional electrician and have used klien pliers for 30 years and have tried ideal and channellock. A very common task as an electrician is twisting wires together, wider jaws make the job easier. Klien has nice, wide jaws where channellocks are quite narrow. Also Kliens have a lifetime, no questions asked replacement guarantee
Yeah, I've never known an electrician to carry anything _but_ Klein's. It is the stadard by which all other pliers are measured. At least here in the U.S.
Here in Germany Hazet tools are very common and they claim to be the gold standard for wrenches, pliers, bits and seemingly everything else. I would be very happy if you could include this brand in your tests to see whether this claim is true. Greetings from Germany! Great channel, I enjoy your videos as well as the efforts you put into them, very much.
I never heard of Hazet tools so I looked them up, holy cow they are expensive. Does Hazet have tool trucks that visit garages to make it easy for the mechanics to buy their tools, that's what Snap-On does?
@@g63836611 I can't even figure out what snappy sells. I went to the site and I couldn't get past the first page without giving them personal info. What is it?
I knew those Vampliers were going to grip well since that’s what they’re made for. I’ve got those Doyle and they’re great for a pair at the house that doesn’t break the bank. Gotta say, I’m impressed with how well Irwin did. Japan, Knipex, and Klein did well (just as I thought they would).
As a lineman this showed me I’ve owned middle of the road Klein’s for years. Maybe I’m just hard headed and stuck in my ways but no other brand feels a good in my hand. That being said I’ll stick to my brand but may use another brand to try out at home. Also you should have included a test to see which brand lineman pliers is the best hammer. Thanks for the awesome content!
Funny! A lot of guys use them to hammer connections. Just yesterday i was using vicegrips to hammer a cheap screwdriver to lock conduit nuts..Lol. I probably have 200 assorted Hammers.
Love these comparisons. Nobody does it better. Makes me feel sad for the rest. A while back,I bought Vamplier "screw extraction" pliers. I ended up using them for something I hadn't expected. Had a screw embedded in a tire. Couldn't get it out to save my life until I remembered the Vampliers. With the Vampliers it was fairly easy.
There’s nothing like being on vacation in the Dominican Republic while I’m watching this clip and drinking a pina colada by the beach…………Hah, life is good.
I’m an electrician and swear by channel lock lineman’s. I use the 10.5” ones and they are phenomenal. Same quality as the Klein’s. Smoother and half the price.
I enjoy your tool comparison videos for a while now. However, in most cases it comes down to personal comfort when I select a tool. As in case of adjustable wrenches, hammes, or side-cut pliers. It's nice to know the weak points of these tools. But as most tradesmen, I do not stress my tools to limit of failure. For me, it comes down to comfort, reliability and finish. As a master plumber, Channellock is my preferred brand of pliers and adjustable wrenches (black Spain), Husky - diamond tip screwdrivers and socket stuff, Ridgid pipe tools and sewer equipment, Milwaukee cordled and 12v. Makita (spline) never disappointed in the chipping hammer category and Bosch SDS has been amazing for me. I do benefit from your wearable item content such as drill bits and cut blades. I highly regard your practical testing setups & objective reviews. Keep up the good work! 👌
I have a lot of Channellock pliers. It's my "good" set. Are they the best? No. They're good enough for what I do though. Their linesmans did better than I thought they would here. But I don't have the model that was tested. I have old big rivet ones and one pair of box joint ones. They're model 349
Channellocks make nice tools and I consider them amongst the highest quality. Also nice they are made in the USA which makes them attractive to me as well.
I have a variety Channellocks, a few Knipex , a number of 40- 50 year old USA Cratfsman from my early days and a handful of others. One of those others are Vamplier "screw extraction" pliers. For that specific use, they are outstanding. But, generally, I am grabbing the Channellocks first.
People should start paying extra for quality. Instead of cheaping out for Chinese product. This means stop shopping at Walmart and support smaller local businesses, American made products, etc. Stop shopping at Walmart and Amazon.
Or rather, the Chinese take a product and build it to the price point offered by the Japanese or Western company that contracted them to make the product.
Now I know why I've bought the Channellocks for over 40 years; best bang for the buck. I don't buy Chinese no matter what name is on the label if I don't have to, I support the US people and MFGs every chance I get. It's why I buy DeWalt power tools over Millwaukee, and Channellocks over anyone else.
I’m a die-hard Knipex fan and have been using their hand tools (pliers, cutters, pipe grips) for over 18yrs now. Pleased to see they performed well in this test.
Since you seem to be on a hand tool binge, may I suggest brands of screwdrivers? Slotted Drivers get used pretty universally as pry bars, scrapers, chisels, and of course slotted screwdrivers. I'd like to see how the different brands stack up in torture tests.
My toolbox at work looks like a collection of stuff that PF would have put together. Screw brand loyalty, they want my money, they have to impress this guy. This channel has saved me so much money, thanks as always project farm!
I'm happy to see the American made tools holding up so well. To be fair, a new rivet will make the Milwaukee and Knipex pliers usable again, if only for light duty jobs.
If you think about it, the rivets are like mechanical fuses. If the rivets held on longer, the pliers would have failed in a similar fashion to those that didn't pop the rivet.
As a person who has all Wiha pliers in all their forms I am staggered by this test they performed 4th or 5th from the bottom in all but the last test. As a Chartered mechanical engineer the tests, although not carried out to laboratory standards, were well conceived and executed but more importantly carried out uniformly on all models with irrefutable evidence on the performance or lack of it on Wiha. I hope you sent this to them although I am sure they would come back with a load of Bull about how the testing of their products is carried out to exacting standards etc etc. Great test and I wish I had seen this 10 years ago I would have saved a shed load of money.
i find if you know its a tool you might use once in a while, say a home diy person that might need it for a project a couple times a year, nothing really beats harbor freight in value. Or if you want a mobile toolkit that if stolen, or if a tool breaks it wont make you cry from the price (yes warranties exist, but those can be a pain)
@@jjjacer as a mechanic, 90% of my tool box is icon tools from harbor freight. They outlast the snap-on tools others in my shop use, and if anything breaks I take it to the nearest harbor freight and get a new one free of charge.
@@hanksadventures4132 i have not tried their icon brand, most of my hand tools where the previous lower end Pittsburg brand. which are still going strong, but as noted i dont use then often
@@jjjacer yeah, I use some of the Pittsburgh sockets for my impact, and they are still going strong. As for pliers and screw drivers, the Pittsburgh just fall apart. Honestly, the biggest benefit to buying the tools off of the trucks was the no questions asked warranty, but now with craftsman, Icon, and even Husky offering the same warranty, the quality comes into play. I'll stick with my Ingersoll Rand air tools and Icon has my money for hand tools. Snap-on has it with its scanner tho, can NOT beat that outside of for-scan for ford vehicles.
I was a franchised tool salesman for about 18 years. From what I’ve seen, it appears that many of the taps and dies are made by either Irwin or Vermont American, regardless of the name stamped into them. Either brand seem to hold up quite well.
In my 20 years as an electrician, I started with Klein, but then switched to Channellock. They are all I buy now. Lasts for years and made 30 minutes from me.
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Agree, Channellock tools have been a good choice and good value for the money for a long time. I'm still using a pair of their #420 arc joint pliers I bought over 40 years ago, they won't quit.
Your tests are the most thorough I've seen over the years. Many tools I purchase are based on your reviews and have not been disappointed yet. Would like to see battery operated sprayers for weeds and gardening.
Drop test too! Too many times I’ve been checking something on a car at home and they hit the ground, or in a plenum space up on a ladder at work and my meter takes a trip.
This would be very very costly and the range on these are so far and wide. The price range goes from 5 bucks to thousands and there are 100s of models of each unit. Most volt readers give their specs in their paperwork. They are correct with in 1% to 3% depending on which model you buy.
One thing nobody talks is time to stable measurement. I have an Agilent U1253A DMM that *bam* first number displayed is very fast and very accurate. The last digit might walk 1 or 2 digits, or it might not, after that. The cheaper DMMs always take a long time to approach a voltage you can trust as stable.
Over my 32 years of being electrician I went through many Klein Tools pliers, had some Channellock and Irwin as backup, recently discovered Knipex and loved them. Have no complaints about Kleins. Irwin perform well first couple of months, trash after that . Channellocks just don’t feel as comfortable for a tool that’s being used every day for hours. Knipex are just pleasure to use
@@americanpatriot2999 Klein is superior. This video is very interesting and all of this technical parameters is fun and all. But in the end it’s all about how it feels to work with, how it feels in your hand. Honestly if I could afford to buy new pliers every month, I’d go with Irwin cause they feel great but quality of steel just doesn’t hold too long
As I explained last time, as a German speaker, it's NYE-PEX, just like the word KNIFE - listening to him mispronounce it Ka-nip-pex over and over was PAINFUL! - The "K" is silent, this is not a hard concept!!
Wiha used to be my favourite brand back when all Wiha tools used to be made in Germany. Then they moved some of their manufacturing to Vietnam and I could never justify the price of the tools since. I just stick to known USA tool companies now. High quality and good prices, can't beat that.
Most of the German brands got cheap lines made in China, many people just wanna say: I got a Gedore ratchet and they buy them cheap Red gedore everyone can afford, but compare it with blue gedore 😉 the blue ones last forever but they cost 20 times more Same with Bosch: blue ones are expensive for professionals, the green ones for people they just wanna say: I got Bosch...
@@khap60 I'd buy that but I can't find lineman pliers on their site that are made in Germany. That being said, I recently bough the 3 piece insulated lineman/side cutter/pliers combo and am very happy with it. No PF-level abuse from my DIY activities! :D
helpful as always, already own a set of channel lock pliers (various sizes) including the lineman. They never let me down, much like your test videos. Thanks for your outstanding work.
Although more subjective than PF’s torture testing, I’ve always found channelock pliers to have excellent ergonomics and functionality with the minimal tool dip style handles.
The downside in this comparison is that linemans are intended to be used in electrical work and the jaws are built for that purpose. Vampliers are not linemans pliers, theyre specialized fastner removal pliers. They (engineer plier co) already are the best in their category.
You took account of the play in rivet, but not the stickiness, which can be just annoying as, if not more than play during use. This is why I like Knipex pliers, generally no play and not too tight out of box.
This is one I've been looking forward to! Cult of Knipex, represent! 🤪 Realtalk: Unsurprised to see Engineer (Vampliers-that's who makes them) dominating the first two tests. Their design is utterly focused on gripping-especially gripping fasteners. The jaws are shaped specifically to hold a screw head! Personally, I own a set of Knipexes and a set of Engineers. Unless someone steals my pliers, I don't expect I'll ever need another set. Absolutely shocked by the Wihas. What a shame!
Based on the results, I'd say get a set of Channellocks for heavy duty cutting and grasping. Also get a Vampliers as their vertical teeth make your life easy with it's ability to get a grip.
channel locks are usually a good choice, they're quality tools for not a lot of money. i dont know about anything but their pliers, but the pliers are all good IMO.
I have a pair of the Channellocks in my tool bag. It's one of those tools you don't think too much about because they just work, you just grab em and use em. With that being said, because of this video I think back to all the times I've used and abused them and they never let me down. Never tried cutting a hardened socket adapter though. Don't think I'll try either!
@@JasonFrankenstein yeah think they get overlooked because they're not sexy or really marketed at all but they're good tools for a good price made in the USA. Can't ask for more
I would like to see a test of different brands of mold and stain remover for the bathroom or shower. Brands to test: Wet and forget Mold armor RMR-141 RTU sold on amazon RMR-86 Clorox Lysol DampRid Concribium CLR I think you will have to convince your wife and you to take longer showers! Please remember to wear a respirator while testing the products so you are safe! Thanks
I would like to see a test on impact drivers, like how long one brand can run on full throttle before it burns up, or something to do with which one burns out first.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4jxZAKk_nSk.html Project Farm has already performed tests, but they may be revised if there is sufficient demand.
i wanna see two different scenarios like full throttle on low load high speed (comparable to drilling and driving small screws), and another test of endless full throttle on heavy loads (like driving large lags or running a large auger bit, but drilliing would probably be more suited for a drill)
One thing I would have appreciated was measuring the level of voltage break down. Just how much voltage will the plyers protect you from? A few of the plyers also have a guard to keep you hand from sliding forward and making contact with the uninsulated metal.
You really should only use the VDE-rated pliers for live work. They have the voltage rating printed right on the handle. Even if we tested the voltage breakdown of regular pliers it would not be reliable due to variations in plastic composition, small damage or even humidity.
All those handles are insulated beyond what you would be wise to touch. The thinnest handles are probably the ideals and they are good for over 1000v if they don't have holes. I have s 120kv hipot at work I've tested tools out of curiosity.
It seems like the Japanese brands focused more on grip ability than cutting ability. I bought a pair of ENGINEER brand pliers, which are the OEM for Vampliers, specifically for gripping screw heads. I use cutting pliers to cut things. Lineman's pliers are great, but I'm not in any of the trades, so I don't need the efficiency of one tool. I would have expected more from Knipex considering their price, but I'm pleased that an American-made product did so well.
The price of the Knipex is highly inflated for Americans, since its a foreign brand or imported or both. In Germany you pay around 25€ (~30$) for that kind of Pliers.
I use the knipex as a tradesman and one thing that isnt shown due to constraints is durability or comfort. Theyre ridiculously comfortable and the pair ive had the last 4 years are unchanged minus some wear on the gripping teeth
Good advice. The Engineer brand is half the price of the Vampliers. I can't really justify paying $45 for a good pliers, but $22 seems reasonable if let me unscrew stripped screws.
A good test of lineman pliers is what I used them for when running a welding school toolroom. We cut TIG filler in half before handing it out (consumables are costly so they were rationed) and that meant hundreds of cuts through 3/32 and 1/8 stainless and carbon TIG wire. While individuals could cut by hand no way was I getting carpal tunnel so I tack welded a Klein lineman plier to some plate and clamped that to the bench. I slid some stainless tubing over the other handle for leverage. I used that Klein for months before the contract ended and I moved on. It's still there years later. Lineman pliers kind of suck as pliers but do well as cutters. The models with splice crimpers on the inboard side of the jaws are much handier than the plain style.
Thanks! The test rig didn't convince me this time though. "Handles two inches apart" is not the way to go I think. You'd want a pressure sensor on one of the handles, then measure out equal distance from the jaw pivot for all tools and at that point apply the sensor and pressure at good human grip strength. I don't know how much that would affect the end results, but hey, just 2 cents :)
I was wondering about that myself. The only test I thought was valid this time around was the pressure to cut Romex wire. The rest of the stuff I wouldn't use linesmans to do. Linesmans pliers are just for wiring up solid wire. OK reaming conduit and pulling fish tape are valid uses too. Past that you're begging. Maybe holding a nut while you're tightening a screw too? That's an edge use case though. Smashing a cockroach as it's scuttling past.
@Frugal Family Living the big factor in leverage is how close to the pivot point you can get the jaws. Half the pliers that failed here did so because they really pushed what could be done there. Either that little snap by the pivot or the pivot itself breaking. Most folks do not have a few hundred pounds of grip strength though.
I came here to say this. The first two tests are totally invalid. It would depend on the handle shape, the stiffness of the rubberized coating etc. It needed an actual pressure measurement, not a distance.
It was an unusually big oversight, for sure! But PF is not a joke, whilst being grounded in the physical world, I'm sure the guy will take all this as constructive dialogue :)
@@jaakkopontinen Agreed. I believe he does a huge service to our community. PF, you demonstrated to me that which I had believed: When I bought my toolset about six years ago, I did but Channellock pliers for the you know, channel pliers which allow you to grip at different sizes. A Crescent brand wrench as the adjustable plier (lost it a few weeks ago and I'm heartbroken. 😥) Craftsman locking pliers and screwdrivers and Swiss tools hex wrenches. None of them have EVER let me down (except for that Crescent wrench which snuck away lol!) Love them all and I will replace with the same if I can! I think Channellock makes some of the best pliers out there!
I'm a new electrician apprentice and I hesitated buying the the Channellock linemans for a while. I ended up buying the Klein's as it's pretty much the industry standard, but I realize I could've definitely saved a bit of money on the channellock and they would probably work just as good. I might buy a pair later to see which one I like the most, they seem to be very capable pliers. I already own a pair of Channellock side cutters and they're great
