ADV NEWS FEB 2024 | TRIUMPH TIGER 660 RALLY | HONDA CB350X ADV | ROYAL ENFIELD 650 SCRAMBLER 

Life goes by waiting for the correct dualsport bike.

It would be a great move from Triumph to do a Tiger 660 Rally.

My 701 at 340 lbs and 74 hp is as good as it gets right now. With about 2K in customization. I’m going to wear it out while I watch for something better to come along. Thank you KTM.

I think would be perfect for Triumph make rally version of new 400 platform!

I've test ridden the 660 sport and it's got a fookin' good motor

Last week I saw an Enfield test rider on a scrambler prototype here in the North East of the UK. It was just like the one in your video and did look pretty cool. Keep up the good work, Philip.

That triumph!! Oooh baby

Always wanted a 660 sport but with tubeless spoke rims and higher clearance, bout 200mm. Triumph make it happen

Once again, no CRF 450 Rally from Honda. Why am I not surprised?

I would be all over a 660 ADV from Triumph!

Large bike sales are dropping. Actually bike sales in general are dropping , so mid to small adventure bikes make more sense to boost sales

I think royal Enfield and cf moto are putting a lot of pressure on the big manufacturers with there smaller adventure bikes . All the midsize adventure bikes are close to 1000 cc. So I wouldn’t call them mid size the only one you could say was in that category is the Aprilia .

Weird to see all this manufacturers give it a go but I don't think Yamaha has come up with anything adv or dual sport related since the T7. I mean, come on Yamaha, everyone here is really waiting for the new WR. Same with Suzuki, everyone waiting for the new DR or DRZ. Shit, even a new Kawasaki Versys X with a higher displacement would have folks out the door, cash in hand.

Would love all three! Triumph 660, I would get as I'm dearly😢 waiting for BMW to re release a Dakar again....also I'd love that Honda...I'm obsessed as many Americans who bought the Himalayan for that Retro look. Disappointed in the newer version, looks like all the other current adventure bikes. I love the scrambler too.

Hey Solid, the only channel I get my motorcycle updates is you. So keep them coming. I sure would like honda to dial in the 450 rl to a more realistic duel sport maintenance intervals. I'd throw my money at them. Cheers from Florida mate.

Loved the Ron Burgundy reference!

As an owner of a 660 Sport one of my first thoughts was that it would make a capable ADV, or maybe ADV touring bike, depending on the suspension and wheels. The difficulty implementing and marketing a Triumph 660 ADV bike is the fear of poaching sales of the 900 series bikes. The 660 is 50 pounds lighter, 80 hp is plenty for ADV work, and the 660 base price is 5,000 USD less. Say 3,000 less after the 660 is "adventurized" with 21/18 tubeless wheels and upgraded suspension. It would be a strong competitor to the Transalp for sure, but likely less off-pavement capable than a Tuareg. Keep up the good work on videos, and slather on the SPF 100!

My wr250r and 1250gsa just gather dust now I have a 500excf. Wish I pulled the trigger on that unicorn years ago. This has been my best high country summer for 10 years. So much more can be explored now.

CFMoto 450MT and now probably the triumph adventure 660? Glad that major manufacturers starting to put focus on less humongous size bikes

CB350X modelled on the old himalayan would be awesome. I am so disappointed with the new Himalayan, i was waiting ages for it to come out and it looks like every other generic adventure bike now. The himalayan 411 has an old school appeal, which fits in with the entire royal enfield lineup. A twin cylinder honda retro adventure bike would be an likely be the improved himalayan 411 that i was hoping for, provided they can get the torque and horsepower high enough (and given that the kawasaki versys 300 makes 40hp, it should be possible)

Great post Solid 🙌. If it ain't broke,, don't fix it 💯. 😅

The problem MAY be is that the 660 is NOT a T- plane crank , so same firing order as the older 800 ( which wasn’t the best off road ) maybe 🤔 they are doing some engine work .

Hopefully, some great bikes in the works. The smaller Cc bikes seem the way to go! Fingers crossed for baby tiger rally & royal enfield scram 🤞🤞

You know this channel is genuine as i asked for a commentator who looked like Max Headroom.

It's the logical step and it will give them a unique model in the market that the triple platform offers.

That Tiger in the clips looks pretty nice , rivals the Twin in aesthetics . A smaller cc version oh boy . If it can be 395 lbs max 75 hp min and a seat height of 33.5" max then for me it's a winner .

I had a 1200 2015 Explorer and now have the Rally Explorer. and I love it. i also have a 2018 Africa twin and very nearly sold it to get the 900 rally. but I got wind of the 660 coming and decided to hold off to see if it happens.

would love to see Honda provide rally kit for 300L, it sounds crazy but having windscreen on a dirt bike allows it to ride on highway so much better.

It would be cool to see a 660 from triumph, but I doubt it would be affordable. Only things available from them that are affordable are their new 400 scramblers that were made in India. I'm sure the 660 would have all the bells and whistles and be way too much for most of us. It's almost hard to say, but my eyes are turning towards the Chinese. They seem to be the only ones listening. That ibex 450 has definitely intrigued me

Always good stuff solid. Here is a bit more speculation for ya about Triumph: They also now have an extremely capablel dual sport with the 250. Probably more approachable than the Honda 450RL

660 3-cylinder engine on the off-road rally bike doesn’t sound good to me. These engines more road biased. Single or twin will suit much better to off-road machine

Give 660 Rally adjustable suspension, detachable subframe, 21"/18" wheels and cruise control and weight under or equal 200kg = instant win even with a higher price that matches higher quality elements that we won't need to change.

Would love to have the little honda in europe!

was hoping they'd make Rally 660, would fit the bill nicely

Solid like your work, keep it up! But I cant get excited over this possible Triumph as IMHO I see it as a step down from a 950 and design wise I cant see it really being lighter or overall smaller. Triumph quote 219kg wet. Consider my 80G/S (stock) weighs in a 186kg WET. My 2004 KTM 950 is 206kg WET! Unfortunately as I was very interested, the CFM MT 450 is stated as 175kg DRY! Please push for a Kove importer. I ran my hands over a Kove 450 Rally in Italy last year, very impressed, that would be a good contender here.145kg Dry.

2nd'ary side effect from Honda not changing their dual sports much (previous owner of the XR650L here), it makes the after market folks very happy as they are set for the life of the bike. :^)

Dont know about 660 but hoping to see a 400 tiger

I think the honda would sell here in the states. Small bikes for girls, young people, short guys abd new riders. After all, the TW200 is still a great seller here as well as the honda 125 trail bike thing. As far as the triumph goes, id pass. A ripple engine im assuming weighs more than a twin. Weight is key here in that middle weight segment. After all, look at the new Kove 800. Weighs about as little as my roomates XR650L. So dont go heavier, go lighter. But it will be smoother with a twin. Nope, id pass. Looking forward to getting the CFMoto 450mt when it gets here

Yes, I would like to see a 660cc and AFFORDABLE Triumph adventure bike... I reckon, however, by the time such a bike from them would hit the market, it will face an extremely strong competition in value proposition from the upcoming Chinese manufacturers and for a well deserved reason.

I will buy this 660 Adv if it is CAD $11000 ish. That will make it 13-13.5 out the door... plus registration. 900s are way out of my price range.

Theres an interview with Ricky Carmichael and he says theres a triumph enduro coming out with this new mx bike.

Triumph ADV: sure. if it's not bonkers price and weight. Honda: well, i like the esthetics (as i liked the RE 411 look), but wouldn't sell well in the US. It would just be a boutique bike.

Currently ride the 2021 900 rally pro, love the bike! Previous bike was the 675 street triple. I have been saying for a while now that the only bike I would trade in the Rally for is the Touareg, but secretly hoping that Triumph would come out with a 675 Rally pro. The 900 is just a bit too much bike for some of the off roading this mediocre rider likes to take on from time to time. Just hope it still gets most of the bells and whistles I’ve become accustomed to.

What do you think about CFMoto 450MT and its specs...? I reckon the 175kg (dry) weight is a bit heavy, but otherwise it seems OK

Rumours is that honda is developing a new engine for new bike NX400. It is supposed to be a parallel twin 399cc liquid cooled DOHC engine. Will wait for it🤜🤛

While I'm sure Triumph 660 is a great engine, unless they can get it in the Tuareg weight area, I really see no need for 3 cylinders in any adventure or off road bike under 1000cc.

The only exciting news is the 660 rally . That would be cool and you know it would be done right , its Triumph! That said , I'm not sure it's got potential to be as " affordable " as you think but I could be wrong?

It would be cool if Honda would import a, lets say NX 350 or XL 350 single. Hopefully, it with more than 21hp..... and not too heavy. I know, I'm asking a lot. Cheers mate 👌💪🖖

1:05 They announced it early so as pre inform others not to buy the recently launched honda nx500 And to wait for something which had more pep which wud also be cheaper than the recently launched transalp 750

55hp & 62Nm don't make sense... I own a Tiger Sport 660 and the engine makes 82hp and around 47 lbs of torque so that's already around 64Nm. They could detune it to have less Hp and more grunt down-low but to make less torque... seems weird... and the Hp seems very low... especially when you'd compare it to the competition at the same level. Don't get me wrong, it's be nice to see it come out! But, it would not be the third bike on the platform, they came out with the Daytona 660 so it would be the 4th on that platform ;)

Almost thought this was fake news when I saw "Honda" and "350" in the title...got me thinking CRF350RL!! Oh well, will keep dreaming...

Actually Honda DO do upgrades during the life. The CB500X is a perfect example. The 2024 model is substantially different from the 2013 and there was a slow evolution to better

It wouldn't surprise me if Triumph is building a 660 cc Tiger Rally, but I'd rather see a 450 cc single cylinder Tiger Rally based on their upcoming motocross bike. And as always, if Honda would make a CRF240L Rally with 6,000 mile oil change intervals, that would be awesome.

If the tiger 660 rally happens please make it lighter if not it makes 0 sense

Yes, yes, Honda give us the CB350X, Many Americans didn’t buy the Himalayan due to crappy build quality, dealer networks and reliable longevity. I’ve yet to see Himalayan’s get 50-70k on them. We want Honda reliability and the Enfield brand has yet to meet Japanese standards. I honestly thought Suzuki would have done this first. Honestly I love the Himalayan’s looks at least the old ones they ruined the new ones with that tank design. Sad to think Honda would overlook the US with this bike. They did a great job so what if they stole the design.

That last thought was too strong to just end the video. Honda will lay on the same product almost as long as Suzuki until its dying. That said, if the 300 rally had a bit more power and comfort, my Vstrom would need to worry. I'll find my unicorn one day.

The CB350 looks like an old BMW R100GS 2nd Generation

Honda had patented many other models also earlier in India but never launched Will hv to see what happens now

What is up with Yamaha. My favorite brand but not much new these last few years. They need a new dualsport desperately. As much as people would like to see a new more powerful WR I think they would make more money off of a 350cc bike somewhere between the XT and the WR. Give it a decent sized fuel tank a lower seat height but good ground clearance like the xt has and it would be enough to steal sales from the Honda and Kawasaki bikes. Also a smaller Tenere would be great. Actually a japanese built adventure bike similar to the new Royal Enfield Himalayan would be great.

I saw that same art panel when they introduced the Trident and Sport, and have been expecting the ADV version ever since.

I do live and ride in Asia, that Honda 350 is all or more for what u need here for an ADV bike. As for the 2024 Rally, I am beginning to develop some harsh/negative feelings for Honda. I have 23 Rally with $3000 USD in it to fix bubble gum suspension, terrible Euro 5 fueling, racks/real crash plate, replaced the bubble gum handlebars, USB port because Honda just does not give a sh*t. Working on combining my horn with high beam light, since no passing light switch from Honda...........Just came back from 3 days solo ride out in the middle of nowhere ride, 155 kgs, it's awesome, I just kept riding till I got stuck. Yank her out, turn around and keep going. Honda seems too big, too comfortable, too stuck in the don't give a sh*t about these small displacement bikes frame of mind to actually deliver a proper/well set up Rally. Imagine the Rally 300 R, good suspension, tubeless rims, opened up engine, real protection, it would be the ultimate light/small displacement around the world bike. Charge extra, these bikes would sell..........But no. Right now u get a project bike or super substandard bike in stock form. Going Chinese. Uffff, feel better now, thx.

I don’t understand this search for a unicorn. No bike does everything, people do laps of Australia on a postie! Just ride what cha got!

I believe the 660 would be a top performer in the mid adventure segment usable power on and off road,these people who think this bike wouldnt have enough low end grunt for offroad are mistaken in my opinion, who takes the big gs or the 1290 offroad ? Im talking offroad not fireroads! single/ dual track they are heavy pigs though capable the 660 would be a great bike better than than bigger heavy bikes with plenty for the standard rider and i think i know as ive owned over 35 motorcycles and been riding 50 plus years,I am leaning towards the hopefully new 660 adventure from Triumph or the aprillia 660 tuarag ,going to ride something to Alaska!

Triumph needs a proper twin cylinder adv. This is not going to cut it.

660cc triple, no thanks. 659cc lightweight single we'll call a 698? Yes please in rally trim.

No on the CB350X.

Honda has fallen asleep.

Could Honda get anymore boring?

you big tease!!! get us all worked up over a new Triumph dirt worthy ADV bike and then it won't make it to the United States..... ya big blue meanie!!!!!

It’s not a 660, it’s a 765 that would blow my skirt up. If I wore a skirt. And my wife would allow me to buy another bike . . .

Im an Indian and i am tired of waiting for Yamaha to bring the T7, KTM to bring the 790/890 and Aprilia to bring the Tuareg 660. We have either the ktm 390 adv or the himmy 450 or 800cc above for true advs. If triumph really brings the 660 Rally, ill pick it up in a heartbeat. Will be much cheaper, lighter, and more than enough for our indian road conditions. Ill be picking up a himmy 450 in the meantime.

I sold off my Triumph Street Twin 900 and am making do with a Honda CB 350 for my commuting duties, but that engine from Honda is so lifeless, it makes me want to commit suicide every time I "blip" the throttle and wait 10 seconds for it to respond...it is a bummer of an engine, and if Honda doesn't bump up the power and torque they will have a ... oh wait ... a successful bike, given it sells by the dozen every single day!

Honda is a disgrace.

Himalayan - worst motorcycle on the planet

something about the passing of founder Kove? How will this impact the brand? Investors say: we are checking a business.