USJA-USJF Grassroots Study Program based on "Kodokan Judo Throwing Techniques" by Toshiro Daigo, 10th Dan. volved from a 10 year study of modern throws used in competition, including the evolution from Jujutsu.
Enrique has the right idea - the key benefit of judo for LEOs is that you can potentially incapacitate the subject with a throw without putting yourself on the ground. If you do wind up there, judo is just fine as a submission art - ref. Helio vs. Kimura.
I've been training a lot of Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. I love to grapple on the ground, learn how to adapt and work, even when I'm in a bad position. But I really do miss the part in between standing and ground work... So I decided to join a Judo dojo to learn what I believe is one of the most important parts to become a complete practitioner. Hopefully I will be able to put as much heart and love into it as I'm trying with BJJ. Training Both is awesome!
Yes but don´t foreget to train the mind, BJJ usually train for competitions and they teach more or less the philosophy of the martial arts, train your mind, read books like "hagakure" or "the book of the five rings" algo watch videos of others martial arts and learn about them, like the discipline of kendo or the determination of ninjutsu that´s how you become a complete practitioner in my opinion (sorry the bad english, it´s not my language)
You have the right idea im a judo guy that cross trained bjj and i telll everyone the throw and takedown is the most important part cause every fight starts on the feet
It depends on the gap in strength. Depending on how good your technique is the larger the gap can be in strength with you still able to throw the person the worse it is the more strength you need. Obviously to optimize your chances you want to be as strong and technical as possible.
I do not insult (I hope I don't), I do arduously call gracie/Brazilian jiujitsu a plagiarized art any chance I get. To prove my point regarding Judo vs. bjj, I entered a NAGA tournament back in February of this year and Won the Gi-bjj portion of it. I will be in my first Judo tournament this Sunday in San Diego, hoping that with a good performance I may be considered for a promotion (still a white belt). Following that competition I plan to enter all the bjj tournaments near Tucson AZ.
Yes, from a certain point of view. From a different viewpoint, it's good that the highly effective techniques are illegal because that forces you to drill you skills on less effective techniques and perfect those.
good self defence moves. They look similar to the ones I saw in a class of traditional jujitsu I've attended. My problem was however that I don't believe these would work on a resisting attacker who might also be considerably stronger than the defender. I decided becuase of this to take sport judo, I think the sparring in it will give me a physical edge, even though the techniques might not necessarily be that great for self defence.
Which "highly effective techniques" are now illegal? People who keep saying this not only lack understanding of the 2010 rule changes but lack a dynamic repertoire of Judo techniques. Apart from throwing with waki gatame and kani basami name the "highly effective techniques" that are illegal.
My first Judo Book was, THE SPORT of JUDO! That was 1963, Judo changed my life for the better! I will be 76 in about a week, and I am obviously still interested!
I do have respect for martial arts and its unknown pioneers, that is the reason I hold no respect for a plagiarized, diluted art. Any Judoka wanting to get a belt in Brazilian gayjitsu does not understand the sacrifice and lives and limbs lost by countless Japanese to develop the most dominating martial art in the world, only for some Brazilians to repackage a sell it as their own. If you are content portraying Judo as a stand up only art, or with lesser newasa, then you made my point.
i mean i just said what i said before because u have no respect for martial arts...im a judo black belt and a bjj black belt under sensei rafael salomao wich he IS also a judo and bjj black belt i never said gracies inverted or modified ground work lol i dont even know why u went there and still my answer is...sadly people like u train martial arts, learn some respect for every single one martia art out there thats the first basic
There is no ultimate style. As Bruce Lee said: Don't get set into one form, adapt it and build your own, and let it grow, be like water. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; You put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle; You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
At this point you probably already chose your martial art. But i wanted to tell you that: In judo you need to have at least 5 years turnament experience (training fights are just not that intense) to really profit from your judo experience in street fights or such things. It takes very long to master the techniques in perfection. And only then u can use them in stress situations properly
I would suggest for you to develop stand up skills. Boxing would be a great first option. If you take Krav but lack in coordination, none of the techniques will work. I know, because one of my training partner's practiced Krav for over 5 years before joining the gym where I train at. Now that he has acquired some grappling skills, his Krav has improved (Krav is just dirty fighting, not an acqual art).
Well,I meant "get out of bad grounded positions and then go for the attacking" as in "getting out of mounted positions and then mount attacking the other guy". But that what you said is mostly true with the US Judo dojos. In the US mainstream Judo is nothing more than a martial art of throwing,which is utter bullshit. Here in Europe and Asia its the most complete and widely practiced martial art and self defense system. And they emphasize a lot of newaza and successfully utilize all techniques.
BJJ is way better for the ground in a way. IMO Judo's ground work is a lot better for me,since you're taught to get out of bad grounded positions and then go for the attacking while BJJ teaches you to use the bad situation to your advantage.Sure its techniques are more complex and technical and whatnot but what wins ground fights is a good,fundamentally sound,not too complex game. And Judo is way better for law enforcement cause of all the stand up throws,restraining holds,takedowns etc.
BJJ is developed for ground work, but it's developed for finishing the fight on the ground, where as Judo has a much stronger emphasis on pins. Unless you want to get pulled up on Police brutality charges every other week I'd say try to avoid snapping peoples legs. Japanese Police do a highly effective form of Judo with take downs to pins and some Kata. Ideally - do Sambo. It's Judo, BJJ, Steppe Wrestling and Striking. For more info type "Fedor MMA" into any search engine.
You truly think that the gracies invented or modified Judo's newasa? The man in the Video is over 90 years old. He is deadly from any position, yet, you will never hear him say that he invented or make claim that what he does is his creation, like the gracies did. How about honoring O' Sensei Kano for his foresight and for preserving the essence of Samurai Jujutsu
I'd take Krav Maga for something like law enforcing. Judo will certainly give you an edge. BJJ is good if you can take your opponents to the ground, remember BJJ and Judo is for competition, I recommend Krav Maga because its designed for actual Combat but Judo and BJJ will certainly add techniques to your repertoire.
i plan to take judo classes because i am joining law enforcement, but my father suggests i take something like krav maga for the fact that it has effective striking techniques as well as defensive. the saw i saw it was that when struggling on ground with a suspect would go a lot smoother if i took judo, any martial artists out there, can you help me out.
They became illegal to keep sport judo pure, it sucks, but generally leg/ankle picks/grabs for takedowns are no longer allowed, except as counters to your opponent. This was done to stem the wrestling influences on judo people were getting too hunched over instead of the traditional vertical judo stance.
Finding a legit krav maga instructor/school doesn't seem like an easy feat. Addtionally, I don't thinking maiming a suspect with some lethal krav maga technique is going to go very well with the police department.
judo over bjj and km because you can practice all techniques against a fully resisting oponent, and it can cause massive ammounts of damege (or not depending on your mood) to people at the same time. You really get a sence of what works for you. Also judo and bjjs origins are in life and death combat
I notice with the new judo rules they are allowing more time for newaza and in recent competition I have seen a lot of newaza ippons. My old sensei specialized in strangulation and taiotoshi. Even today, years later, the thought of him still makes me nervous. I drink to him.
anyone knows if i can do any higher belt moves if im a white belt? i've trained judo with my dad (2th dan black belt) - i've only trained it as a white belt, but i know all the moves.. now, in a kumite.. would i be able to use my arsenal of moves, or would i have to stick with the white belt ones?
BJJ is way better for the ground. Judo is actually not really a martial art for the ground its focused mainly on takedowns while a small portion of it is on the ground. BJJ's main focus is on the ground while a small portion of BJJ is takedowns.
I hope to meet you some day as well,the important thing about arguing on styles is to stick to the facts,you should insult less and argue reasonably,it's not really hard against the majority of people on here.
Cops try to takedown and pin the suspests before handcuffing. They only try to strike and KO when they are in danger. At least that should be the correct procedure.
. I learned Judo back when it was for kicking ass. I lived on a Navy Base on Guam and my shishou was a USMC instructor. I have never failed to execute an ippon seoi nage in a street fight. With an arm lock when possible. I didn't roll the guy gently across my hip I pulled him all the way over my back getting him as high as possible before striking him with the earth. Open hand strikes, pressure points and other mean stuff.
+andocrates thats great for self defense and stuff, but when creating judo Kano took the things that created too much injury for his students off. The idea of judo is to have a safe practice, but there is nothing wrong with being able to defend yourself using it
+César Alves Of course you are right and I was reflecting only one facet of our sport. I'm sure they still teach those thing at the Orange or Brown level. I saw a cop in Nagoya take a guy down with some very devastating moves. I use judo these days to avoid injury when I fall :-p
Sorry to say Judo has lost many techniques thanks to the USJA, and the USJF. Tatame Waza, Kasentsu Waza, Atemi Waza, these to mention a few. They are so influence in going to olympic games, the rt has lost all originality. Thanks to groups like the US Classical Judo Society tha by deep studies, research, and dedication keep these lost techniques alive. why do you think Brazil became so popular on a art that has already existed...? Brazilian Jujutsu? The original Art was judo at its best. I study Judo for 20 years, under Luis Paranos from Cuba. His teachings where always combined with defense, Aiki (Lost today) Atemi, and tons of mat work.
Ummm I agree with wolf, although the technique is very good the language is just as important as the technique, no? If you learn something should you not learn it correctly? Or am I wrong ._.
Yeah alot of Judo schools now don't teach Newaza ( groundwork). But if they did Judo would be way better than BJJ. To bad the only things the schools want to do now is just win tournaments.
I am 40, and was introduced to Judo by a 70 year old gentleman that I used outweigh by 75 pounds. He did not tell me that what he was teaching me was Judo, He called it Self defense. He could have killed me at any time when we first started training. I immediately learned the meaning of Maximum Efficiency with Minimum Effort. My suggestion for you is to learn the history of Judo and its Samurai Jujutsu roots. Make sure that you learn the combat style of Judo and stay away from tournament Judo.
I am very interested in this especially because although advanced, this was my first Judo book. If someone decided to make the videos for submission for the respective certificates where do they get sent ? I looked on both the usja and usjf site but cannot find who to send the videos to. Thank you in advance
My kids (Sons 11 and 9) have been learning Judo for approx 3 years each....and they love it. Their Judo club started a "Dads" course late last year....I signed up with some of the Dads...and like my sons, I love it. Imagine starting Judo at the age of 45...LOLOLOL These videos you have done Hal are great for me. Thanks.
Very nice to see young Judokas, to know well the techniques. Thank you for uploading =[) I will share this video with other judokas hoping to encourage others to do the same.
Jeet Kun Do is not a "style" it also didn't involve striking someone's strikes as that's fucking absurd. Do you know how hard that would be to do in a real fight? Jeet Kun Do was basically what modern MMA is minus the limitations of fighting within a sport setting.
again why u type this answers??? when did i said that judo is stand up only??? i respect u love judo cause also thats another basic of a martial artist, learn what u do, but well if u hate bjj its ur choice, i just since the beginning thx to comment like "gayjutsu" then comes with the popular videos "judo vs bjj" "karate vs muay thai" no martial art is better than the other is the martial artist who develops his or her own skills and adapts to a martial ushimashite
