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Fiberglass wheels have their time and place, depending on your needs and mindset. As a traditional wheelwright and wainwright, I only repair them on a limited basis. In this case, I need to convert these wheels from steel tires to hard rubber tires for an Amish family. Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles, as a traditional wheelwright, blacksmith, upholsterer, painter and striper, is my main vocation. Working on fiberglass wheels does not happen very often for me, except for the Amish.
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@thedevilinthecircuit1414 Год назад

Not only are you preserving history by doing restoration and construction, you are documenting it. There is no way to put a value on that--it's priceless. Thank you Mr. Dave!

@andremartel828 Год назад

I never get bored when you make wagon wheels. I never stop learning something new.

@user-pf7dm5py3m Год назад

Greetings from Croatia I love your works because they bring me back to the past. I take off my hat and a present to the ground. Now my story, if you can understand me. My mother's grandfather before and after the Second World War had horses known as posaws, carts, plows, etc. My father's grandfather had cows at the same time, and worked the land with them. My late father made parts for cars, ash and elm wood, so I know a lot of details in the making. I don't have a picture because everything was burned during the Homeland War. Sorry, this is a translation.

@dianeengel4155 Год назад

Thank you.

@ron.v Год назад

There aren't many channels where I automatically give the video a thumbs up before watching it. Yours was one, actually the first one. I've noticed that other subscribers of your channel do the same. We never expect and we never get a single disappointment because you're such a master at all you do from your many skills in the shop to your narration and videography. Thanks once more for making a fascinating video.

@dianeengel4155 Год назад

Thank you.

@jeffclark2725 Год назад

Well said , right along with you

@Tomhohenadel Год назад

And Dave keeps wheeling along. Watch for any bumps in the road. Your videos are always a pleasure to watch

@harleyb.birdwhisperer Год назад

Be warned: you will never again watch a movie with a horse-drawn wagon without noticing the wheels.

@d00dEEE Год назад

Then when you watch various wagon rebuild playlists, you start looking for how the brake linkage is routed, and how the boot is held on, and the angle on the tongue, and ... it's a deep set of rabbit holes.

@aserta Год назад

True story. I wasn't able to watch a movie with a wooden style spoke wheel without a critical eye since i've been subbed to this channel.

@harleyb.birdwhisperer Год назад

@@aserta Takes one to know one. 😄

@bboomer7th Год назад

Thanks for the warning. Too late in my case.

@lightweight1974 Год назад

My grandfather was born in 1893. Yeah, I'm kinda old. He was in the cavalry in WWI, but he never learned to drive a car. Up until the day he died in '56, he had buggies of various types. I have a photo of him from the late 40's in his buggy with what looks like Sarvin hubs on the wheels. When my uncle was wounded during the Korean war, my dad took Gramps and Gram to the Philadelphia Naval Hospital in his car to see uncle. Oh, dad was only 15 at the time. Different times. And yeah, my grandfather started his family late in life.

@lemontier Год назад

I think that it is great to watch Dave then read the comments. Lots of good questions and lots of additional knowledge. So Dave, thanks for giving us a place to bring it all together.

@ronboe6325 Год назад

Sounds like the Amish community needs to have some folks intern with you, learn the trade so someone local can take over once you turn off the power.

@Metal-Possum Год назад

You'd think the Amish would have passed this knowledge down over the years...

@mikenewman4078 Год назад

Thanks again Dave for putting together this body of reference work. It must have been stressful when those hackers got in a couple of years back. I hope that the Library of Congress and / or Smithsonian contact you about data preservation.

@joeinthebush Год назад

Thank you for taking care of my friends family... they respect me and I respect them.. They're my friends..We know each other's kiin and kids by name....🇨🇦 my respect for you just went up a notch...glad you're me kind of people . I have respect for you before...just a bit higher now Money isn't everything....Cheers..

@johndii2194 Год назад

I find it interesting that the Amish use Fiberglass Wheels. I didn't know there are Fiberglass Wheels for wagons.

@chrisallen2005 Год назад

I find it interesting how they selectively adopt technology. I am guessing that they can use the wheels because they themselves do not make them. I met a van load of Amish once in Montana who were on vacation doing a road trip. Because they hired a non-Amish driver they could vacation with the van. Weird to my thinking.

@billschmitzer9159 Год назад

Thanks again Dave for an interesting video with interesting facts. You’re a good teacher, easy to understand and to the point.

@ArchEdge Год назад

Thanks Dave - Just wanted to let you know, i found your videos during COVID lockdowns, and got hooked, to the point, that i made my own wagon wheel out of timber, then made a ring-roller to get the metal tire for it. Thanks for your great videos - Much appreciated.

@olddawgdreaming5715 Год назад

Thanks Dave for the reminder that you have this in your videos that are available to go back and watch often. It's a nice way to review something . Stay safe and keep up the good work. Fred.

@Barnagh1 Год назад

Dave, your philosophy on being a wainwright reminds me of a close friend, who is a stone-mason. He only does traditional work, hand-dressed stone, lime mortar etc. He turns away millions-worth of work with faux concrete ‘stone’ and cement. He is getting older now, his body is getting worn out, so he has cut down to three days a week stone work and he only repairs old estate walls, castles, churches etc. on his days off, he restores old tractors He is still in huge demand. You and he would get along I think.

@bobm6016 Год назад

Thanks for posting. We appreciate all the content you upload.

@guysmith1946 Год назад

Hi Dave, I do understand your feelings about the redundancy of doing the same job over and over and over again. However… You are such an amazing Craftsman, that I love to go back and watch you build/ repair wheels!!! Thank you for the Awesome videos that you have provided for us to view!!! God Bless

@ptonpc Год назад

It makes sense for the Amish to embrace newer tech when it comes to safety and reliability.

@EXARCWithGrandpop Год назад

Thanks again for making these videos. I would hate to see this trade lost to history.

@1crazypj Год назад

Well, that was something I never expected to see on your channel. Been watching for a few years and find the traditional things you do fascinating even though it's doubtful I will ever need them.

@glencrandall7051 Год назад

Excellent discussion of fiberglass wheels. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂

@danbreyfogle8486 Год назад

I was unaware that there were fiberglass wheels. I appreciate this video adding to my knowledge.

@tomtruesdale6901 Год назад

You are a Good Man for helping them even though it is a bit outside your normal work. Thank you for the lesson on fiberglass wheels.

@flyingweed9671 Год назад

Absolutely fascinating. I enjoy watching and learning. I have just refurbished some old original wagon wheels which will be repurposed for a cannon carriage.

@johnbarker6703 Год назад

So much information to absorb that my head hurts now. Absolutely amazed at the knowledge and respect for passing it on.

@kennethrand4877 Год назад

Dave, weather your working on wheels or mending fence I still enjoy watching you.

@billybobholcomb8768 Год назад

I learn so much each time In watch a video from this series. I feel that I've cheated some one the cost of tuition

@smitm108 Год назад

As always, intriguing subject matter, masterfully presented . . .

@jasonharper2601 Год назад

long-time subscriber. I really enjoy your videos. I am a woodworker and have learned much. thank you

@sdrailfan892 Год назад

Another great video to expand on a different wheel type. Thanks Dave

@robertrobert7924 Год назад

I once had a neighbor who was a Doctor in the German Army, then joined the US Army upon surrender in WW2. He served in every front the Germans were in. He told me that when they invaded Poland, the Horse Artillery had cannon wheels that were made of cast Aluminum.

@user-neo71665 Год назад

I have no clue where they came from (neither did my grandpa) but he had some cast aluminum spoked wheels. He got them before I was born and couldn't remember where when I asked. They were 3 foot across and he used them to make a 2 wheel cart for a donkey. They looked just like these fiberglass wheels.

@billflynn818 Год назад

and another very interesting video! Thank you for your time.

@chrisbartrum3201 Год назад

Really interesting modern technology given an experienced voice make it all the more compelling. It would be something to see you building a 21st century buggy with the most up to date material as long as wood and steel remain the key components. Thank you both.

@patrickradcliffe3837 Год назад

11:00 I disagree with you here Dave. The rubber is installed as anti-chaffing to protect the fiberglass from being abraded by the steel wheel. That steel will act like sandpaper on the fiberglass resin. Any shock absorption is gonna be incidental. Working in the aerospace community when fiberglass panels were placed on metal structure it had a rubber gasket to prevent it chaffing on the metal.

@1crazypj Год назад

Interesting point, I wondered about steel bolted to fiberglass in a high vibration area.

@sewasewa6585 Год назад

I have a feeling that rubber between hte steel rim and fibreglass wheel does a few contributions to accommodate the differences between the materials.,like the shock but also thermal expansion, so even though there is going to be rubber outside I would probabaly think to keep the rubber on the inside. Also while using fibreglass then stainless steel bolts would go better? This is from a couch potatoe .😢

@davidhull6359 Год назад

@@sewasewa6585 I would also expect the rubber layer to accommodate the difference in CTE between the steel and the glass. It wouldn't matter if the wheels stayed at the same temperature, but if tensioned at shop temperature, the stresses will go up considerably when it sits out in the hot sunshine. We used a rubber gasket between a kevlar or glass layer and a metallic underlying structure on some airframe applications.

@tonyn3123 Год назад

Excellent video. Your explanation of the differences in wheel construction is very interesting to me, even though I am not a wheelwright. I have always preferred to be in the weeds on any subjects that interested me. Thanks.

@D989501L Год назад

Morning Dave and Diane, I can't imagine after watching you for the past few years that you won't be doing anymore Wheels ? It's nice to see that you still do work for the Amish, do you ever have to work on there carriages? Regards to you both Richard 🇬🇧

@dianeengel4155 Год назад

He hasn't yet.

@D989501L Год назад

@@dianeengel4155 oh well, I will have to wait and see. Thank you. Nearly strawberry time here, another few weeks. Hope yours are doing well. Regards Richard

@dianeengel4155 Год назад

I picked about 2/3 of a gallon last week. About 2 liters?

@D989501L Год назад

@@dianeengel4155 ours are just starting to fill out, strange weather over here at the moment. It rained non stop it seemed since Christmas now it's 90 deg plus and doesn't seem like letting up any time soon. Looking forward to the strawberries though. Wishing you both a great weekend. Regards Richard

@kotovsk66 Год назад

Thank you, Mister! I love watching you.! Crimea. Ukraine.

@marlobreding7402 Год назад

I remember visiting a Hutterite Village near Kevin MT. back in the late 1950s.

@strokerace5468 Год назад

The knowledge you possess on this stuff is amazing

@bobafetting6373 Год назад

That welding corner of your shop looks so clean and tidy in this opening shot. Not that it’s ‘messy’ other times, but this looks so organised whilst useable.

@marlinbontrager Год назад

Most Amish buggies here in northern Indiana still use wooden wheels the fiberglass wheels never really took off much but a lot of people are going to flush hubs now

@user-cq2wk2qo4y Год назад

Great 16 minute video... but I'd have stayed for 16 more minutes to watch you mount the rims and wheels. :-)

@kennyp1448 Год назад

Very curious as how the heated tire affects fiberglass, any tricks required?

@mayforddavis9291 Год назад

Thank you Dave and Mrs. Engels. God Bless.

@jeffclark2725 Год назад

Great video,always enjoy being welcomed along with your daily activities, thank you very much

@toddb9313 Год назад

Personally I like wheel creation. Hopefully you do some more different types over time.

@haroldotadeubalieros8190 Год назад

Eu assisto seus vídeos acho todos eles maravilhosos . Mais o que me prende mais atenção são as rodas .Seu trabalho com elas é simplesmente fantástico .Ainda não vi alguém trabalhar com rodas de carroças , tão bem como você .Meus parabéns mais uma vez pelo excelente trabalho . 🎉🐈🇧🇷

@flywayhome8903 Год назад

Once again thanks for the video .

@garycornelisse9228 Год назад

Very interesting. I live in central Pennsylvania. And we have many Amish in the area and very often encounter Amish buggys on the road. I have been aware for several years now that the buggys are constructed of fiberglass and was initially surprised at that. Now I am surprised that the wheels are also constructed of fiberglass and the buggys have hydraulic brakes. All of this is more "modern" than I expected before I moved to central PA. Even more modern is that occasionally one will see one of those buggys with a kayak strapped on top. 😅

@mitchp350 Год назад

The dowel type things that were in each spoke, were probably to start the molding process. I am not sure if the entire wheel was actually molded, but the process of making anything fiberglass, involves resin, and a fiberglass cloth, or strands, and when they harden, can be as hard and tough as steel. Depending on the cloth used and amount of layers. I am assuming they are started by hand laying the layers(thus the dowels), and then placed in a mold and poured with a mixture of shredded cloth and resin. Then finished with a grinder to smooth the surface.

@mitchp350 Год назад

@Kelly Harbeson Ahh That is something that is possible.

@davidbishop4015 Год назад

Very interesting Dave. So many aspects to consider when rebuilding a wheel. I've enjoyed watching you work on different wheels. Stay safe.

@bruceyoung1343 Год назад

Very enjoyable. Thank You sir.

@patmancrowley8509 Год назад

Thanks again!

@93Martin Год назад

On wooden wheels, we've seen the channels heated up with OXY torches to expand them for installation. Will these fit loose enough that they don't need to be heated? Are they just not heated up quite as much to not affect the structure of the fiberglass? I agree that the subject of wheels has been pretty well explored on your channel, but I wonder if we're missing some of the details here. Love your Channel, Dave!

@dianeengel4155 Год назад

They are just not heated up as hot.

@milt7348 Год назад

Have fun and we'll see you next time.

@orwellfarm Год назад

velmi zajímavé povídání o materiálu. Díky

@Tammy-un3ql Год назад

always a pleasure to watch

@MikeWilliams-yp9kl Год назад

Thanks for the video Diane and Dave , I love the wood wheels better . ❤

@samuelspencer9194 Год назад

Love your videos be safe and have a great day Sam

@duanelundgren7985 Год назад

Ahem! I might guess someone will get into CARBON FIBER wheels.. perhaps even hollow core assemblies... light as a feather and strong like iron... But I know nothing of that new technology.!! Thanks Dave & Diane!!

@bryanluhning6346 Год назад

I was curious about actually setting the channel, do you heat and shrink like a wooden wheel? Seems like it would melt the fiberglass resin.

@lint2023 Год назад

That was what I was curious about, also..

@redrockplumber5124 Год назад

Same.

@geneard639 Год назад

I never thought of wheels drying out. Looking at the historical perspective? It explains why so many Easterners had so many problems going west...

@massoud999 Год назад

In archaeology we learned about the wheels of war chariots of the biblical times in our area. About 3000 years have passed and in principle they are made like the ones you make. They had to be flexible to enable the archers to shoot while standing on the fast-moving chariots. There is nothing new under the sun.” Ecclesiastes 1:9.

@mechanoid5739 Год назад

Wait! I wanted to see how Dave shrunk a tyre onto a fiberglass wheel without destroying the fiberglass!

@Mmmyess Год назад

I appreciate your commitment to tradition AND your lack of interest in doing more wheels (I'm sure wheels get exhausting and boring after so many years). So my question is this: Have you succeeded in inspiring others...younger people, one would hope...to carry on the wheelwright tradition?

@ermelindowenceslauqueiroz8894 Год назад

Hi Diane, beckoning from Brazil.

@Pushyhog Год назад

early an watching my favorite 1800's transportation vehicles

@jerrycutright3267 Год назад

Thanks for the explanation on pros and cons of fiberglass vs wood wheels. Would have been interesting to see you put the hot iron on the fiberglass wheel 😅

@richardthornhill4630 Год назад

Well that explains fiberglass wheels and the differences.

@cyrilhudak4568 Год назад

I see, said the blind carpenter as he picked up his hammer and saw.

@tomswindler64 Год назад

Great video as always.very informative and educational.keep doing what your doing.kudos 😎😎😎👍👍👍

@dianeengel4155 Год назад

Thank you.

@mfreund15448 Год назад

Thanks Dave!!

@mrclaus859 Год назад

Thanks Dave. Very informative

@michaelbondick575 Год назад

Very interesting 🤓👍

@clintbonnett3449 Год назад

Dave, when you say you're not doing wheels anymore does that mean you are no longer building or repairing them or just not posting videos of them? Watching you build and repair them was the reason I subscribed to your channel years ago.

@dianeengel4155 Год назад

He's not building or repairing them .

@wileycoyotesr8623 Год назад

Always interesting and educational.

@amateurshooter6054 Год назад

Thanks Dave

@Gena_1309 Год назад

Спасибо.

@egdiryellam68 Год назад

Another very interesting video ---------- when you mentioned bolts rusting my first thought are why isn't a non-ferrous material being used

@victormiranda9163 Год назад

I have assumed you kept the wagon work going and didn't make vids for what is more of the same work. keep rolling !

@Garth2011 Год назад

I can see thier desires for the newer more modern brakes and wheels because they do most of tehir travels on hard pavement and gravel. So, it make a lot of sense yet they still get to be the practicle folks they are. Also, this is their main means of travel so reliability and function is king. Lets set some tires !

@johncollins719 Год назад

Drum brakes are standard (In the Lancaster PA area anyway) on new buggies. I think they may be required for use on the road. They also have battery powered rear marker lights.

@cyrilhudak4568 Год назад

The harness may not have britchen for these light buggies.

@mfreund15448 Год назад

I liked the wooden car wheels!

@CraigLYoung Год назад

Thanks for sharing 👍

@SingleStacked Год назад

Does the fiberglass melt/burn when the hot channel is fitted over it?

@walterulasinksi7031 Год назад

Dave, having watched most of your videos regarding wheels. I have been trying to correlate them to the making if Egyptian chariot wheel making. As depicted in the NAoVA on “ Building Pharaoh’s Chariot” instead of letting the spokes into the wheels, they created bent half spokes and glued them together and onto the carved hubs then drilled the fellows for the spokes. While this is unique , it also had me considering, what type of tires they would have used? So far all I can think of would be rawhide strips , braided into a complete tire circle tightly on the fellows and allowed to dry to tighten the spokes even more as you would with a steel tire or a channel for rubber tires. Have you any thoughts in this subject?

@TheLocheil Год назад

Whilst you must have plenty of variety in American horse drawn vehicles and wheels, I wonder if you have ever investigated the diverse range of English county horse drawn farm wagons. There is a huge range of different types and styles typically designed for the particular peculiarities of the local farming industry.

@MrKotBonifacy Год назад

Two thoughts after watching this video: 1. How about using some epoxy adhesive (epoxy is stronger than polyester resin) to assure "good contact" between the rim and the wheel? In addition to "shrink setting", that is - and 2. It's kinda amusing to see Amish people, with all their "traditionalist" approach to actually embrace polyester resin-fiberglass wheels. Still, an aluminium cast wheel would probably be just as good, much lighter, and... "Greetings, neighbour! Wanna see my new alloy rims on my cart?" ;-)

@LTVoyager Год назад

I wonder if those spokes might have full length aluminum rods to provide more ductility to the fiberglass spokes in the case of a crash. Fiberglass tends to fail in a brittle mode and that can be bad in some circumstances.

@rbhusana Год назад

I wonder what happens when you put the hot metal channel onto the fiberglass. Does it burn and it must smell pretty bad.

@carl4323 Год назад

To heat the rusted bolt in the wheel, take a good 12 volt battery and a pair of heavy duty jumper cables with copper clamps. Then touch one clamp of the cables to the inside and one end to the outside of the fellow. You can heat the bolt as hot as you want. Heating will cause the rust to break down and loosen the bolt. Just an idea, I am not sure if it would work.

@aserta Год назад

Probably wouldn't do much, but there are these bolt looseners you can buy that use a coil (they come with multiple coils) to heat through induction. I've used one for some time now and it's a much better alternative than fire. Very fast, like 10 seconds from dead cold to red hot, and if you spray it at peak temp with some paraffin oil... that thing will loosen. Bonus points, you can put down the coil doodad, and quickly pick up a tool to remove the nut or bolt, without fear of burning something.

@harveypost1841 Год назад

Like a fishing pole it bends to a absorb tension ..

@robertwoelk26 Год назад

There will be what is called rovings. This can be large diameter thread either fiberglass or carbon fiber. This is wrapped around the wheel as well as going up the spokes and around the hub. Then resin is pumped into the mold or they may use a vacuum system to impregnate this thread material with the resin. I may be off on how this was done but pretty sure it was done something like that.

@secretsquirrel6308 Год назад

Isn't a mandrel required in that method? I wonder if the unfinished spokes are layed into the mold and tabbed to the fellow. (For that matter, the hub too.) Then the entire mold is cast as one piece. Cured windings with both ends open to create a tube which becomes the spokes when layed into the mold. The mandrel is figerglas rod. FYI: Dow Corning invented fiberglas cloth. The original patent spelled the material with one 'S'.

@HenryLeslieGraham Год назад

something about amish + fiberglass doesnt seem right

@RiggenbachDE Год назад

Amish people who prefer modern technology? The world is in decline. Not even the Amish people are, what they used to be.

@Crayz919 Месяц назад

How mych is a fiberglass with metal wheel band worth and wooden spoke with steel band , just estimated guess ballpark , their off actual working buggy ?

@MrAlbedo39 Год назад

The fibreglass doesn't melt when you shrink the iron onto it?

@bigbossimmotal Год назад

I do not know the name of the system, but I saw a fiberglass guy spraying with a gun that chewed up fiberglass strand, mixed it with resin, and blew it onto the mold. The finished product looked exactly like those wheel edges, a lot like particle board. I don't even remember what he was making, but he went thru a full gallon of resin mixed in about 20 minutes.

@jimlivings Год назад

Dave, When you do the minimum shrink on the channel, how much do you reduce the heat so the fiberglass doesn't soften?

@secretsquirrel6308 Год назад

The only heat in mounting rubber tires is that generated when he welds the ends of the metal rods which run inside the tire. Dave uses a machine to tension the two rods inside the tire.

@secretsquirrel6308 Год назад

Brase, not weld. Mea culpa.

@jimlivings Год назад

@@secretsquirrel6308 Dave said he was going to shrink the channel iron onto the wheel but with less shrink.

@thomaslemay8817 Год назад

One quick question: Do they put the hydraulic brakes on the front axle or the back axle?

@Mishn0 Год назад

When you shrink the channels onto the fiberglass wheel, do you use less heat? Is there a danger of melting the resin?

@RiggenbachDE Год назад

I just wanted to ask the same question.

@1crazypj Год назад

@@RiggenbachDE Me too!

@d00dEEE Год назад

Assuming the wheel is made with the usual thermoset polyester resin used for almost all fiberglass composite items like this, then once the resin has set, it can't melt, but it might burn. I too was wanting to see how Dave dealt with this, maybe he just treats it like a wood wheel? But, since the fit is "looser" (he said just 1/16-1/8" smaller in circumference), as you suggest he probably doesn't need to heat the hoop up very much to get it over the rim.