AEA Challenger Elite 357 Big Bore vs Glock 9mm - Power Test - Backyard AirGuns - EP34 

very true, course what can a 9mm firearm do with a 125gr solid? my .357 big bore challenger unregulated , does 320fpe with that. and i seriously have not seen any 9mm firearm get 400fpe sir. it would have to be hand loaded hot as hell. and i can only get 378 fpe with a 200gr solid in my big bore. and the 9mm firearm my buddy has can't get more than 300fpe on a good day, so i would really like to know where you are getting your info and what kind of ammunition is doing that 400fpe. cause i call junk till ya do.

560 FPE is crazy 🤪

Thanks for answering! I think I buy the 457

🙂 Thanks!

Agree! This rifle would take down an elephant. :-)

Thanks Steve!

Thanks for watching!

Thanks Faraci. The AEA Elite 357 is a beast of a rifle. I don't have a Rattler 357, so I will wait on someone to reproduce my test with the Rattler. 🙂

@@backyardairguns I get my rattler next week,we’ll see what she can do.Last week i got a benjamin bulldog .357magnum supposed to put out around 275-300fpe.As soon as my company leaves i’ll do a video with the 2 of them.Keep up the great vidoes,enjoyed this one👍🏼

Looking forward to your test with the Rattler! 🙂

Thanks William. It's a beast. If you buy it at The Pellet Shop, tell them Mike sent you!

Thanks Motor for the positive feedback. I have to get me an Airforce in 308 or larger; I have the Talon P in 25 cal and it's can do about 70 fpe. For my Elite 357 I actually cranked the reg to about 215 from 190 and 200 bar and it shot worst. I was getting close to 300 bar but the accuracy fell off and the 145g slug started to wobble at the higher speed and it did not penetrate as far. Your idea on using a heavier slug might work; I will have to try it out!

@@backyardairguns - had similar experience with lighter slugs in the .308. There is a sweet spot. Go past it and accuracy suffers. Heavy slugs seem to provide power & stay stable.

smiles and the non regulated .357 big bore does get that 320-370fpe energy level, and yes the aea .30cal cgallenger 32inch barrel with a .284dia 162gr fmj slid backwards down the muzzle easily gets over 300fpe. giggles and the fmj can be shot into rubber mulch through steel a couple times before it even starts opening up. because it is moving under 1300fps it wont peel the jacket. ooohhhh armor piercing whooyahh.

@@AIRGUNZ_MILITIA - wow, I’d love to see the 30 cal challenge get over 250 fpe. Granted I’ve not seen a 30 loaded like a muzzle loader with a sub-caliber projectile slide down the barrel! Can you post that for us so we can see how it works out? I’m guessing accuracy with a 28 cal projectile will be suffering somewhat. Then again, anything is possible.

@@motorgearhead it is like this, i have the projectiles. .284 is not that much less than .300 and one of my buddies found that .298 is actually best for that gun. the barrel is 32inches long so that is a lot of time to stabilize using the air spinning through the rifleing around the projectile. but when i drop one down the barrel of my challenger pro and shoot it , it puts out over 200fpe like 208fpe in a challenger pro. i cannot seem to get anyone to sell me a 32 inch challenger .30cal but the math is correct. ifyou watch the videos of the challenger 32inch barrel .30cal, you can figure the math on a projectile that weight, by figuring the velocity of it with 110gr and with 54gr and noteing the base velocity with the 44.75 . and you will get somewhere in the mid 900's and at 920fps you break 300fpe with a 162gr projectile. everyone complaining about that airgun having too much power, they always turn it down, but no one tries to find the weight it needs to become accurate and stable. and btw that projectile is over 2 inches long so the balistic coefficient is so high it is very effin stable the longer it stays in the barrel. now i would suggest not using a moderator just in case. but when my friend in washington a bullet caster, shot one i sent him out of his 32 inch challenger .30 cal. he said it blew his chronograph over and did not read, but hit the bullseye and went through his backstop , across the road and off into the woods. he said that projectile was too dangerous to shoot again out of that rifle. his backstop is rated for a 30.06 firearm and that thing made swiss cheese out of it. so me i am just stating the obvious math. if you can squeeze a projectile that weight into that magwell and into the breach go ahead and try. i will tell ya the limit is a 140gr lead at .298... and that does get very close, but you would have to get the video yourself. i am doing stuff more fun with .51cal these days and i do not intend to try buying a 32inch challenger .30cal anymore. too many times i was thwarted from doing so. have fun with it. think about the video with the 110grain lead, how fast was that you find it and tell me. how much more weight can go in that breach and still be over 920fps. only 30-35gr needed. because i am pretty sure 162gr is too much even though the energy level of the rifle is more than that. way more than that. i would postulate that if a .298 or .299 dia projectile could be found the maximum length that can fit into the breach. you would be over 300fpe and still be above the threshhold of the rifles energy level. the energy level of a airgun is equal to the weight in grains that the air gun can spit at 671fps. that is the foot pounds of energy that gun can exibit. as you increase velocity the weight goes down , but the energy does not. untill you get past 922fps and then you start losing energy as you increase weight and have to suppliment with more energy. of course this is balistic science. and does not give a crap about accuracy. course the pellet experts would say a pellet flys best between 880fps and 920fps, hmmm i wonder why. but in that air rifle, you are an idiot if you shoot pellets, that is a slug gun. just like my .357 big bore, but yuou can watch terry's video on it and see for yourself the energy of the bullpup model with a 124g . he gets 1078fps. so me stating 1076fps with a 125gr solid when i have a 600cc tank instead of the 500cc tank the bullpup has. is conservative. another slug gun. and they gave me 800pellets with it when i bought it. effin useless 81gr pellets jsb and vortex strikes. they are still in the tins they came in unopened. course when i get the T9 i will need them in that pistol. smiles. enjoy yourself chasing that energy in the .30cal. you really need to just spend the 200 bucks and get a custom mold for .298dia for that rifle. you might buy some 130gr .308 lead and resize it for starters to find the weight you need. or upto a 140gr but it has to be lead and no jacket cause the jacket will catch on the rifleing. that is why i used fmj and 162gr so it would not get caught on the rifleing, but slide along it like a rollercoaster along the rails untill the air picked it up and spun it and that was the tale of the bullet i dubbed , "the oh jesus bullet" smiles. because it does stuff it shouldn't like go through steel and not peel away its jacket. acts like an armor piercing round at anything less than 1300fps, and it cannot get there in an air gun. i put one through a steel house door 3 times and the jacket just barely started peeling at the tip. i set it to the side and told myself , that one is gonna be for a home invader. just drop it down the muzzle after cocking, and hear the thunk and pull the trigger. cause i think it mighe open up the next time it is shot. mind ya with a challenger pro at 130fpe energy level that makes it get a velocity of 821 and that put the energy of the projectile at around 233fpe. in a challenger pro. so just think the difference between challenger pro .30cal and challenger 32inch .30cal. good day.

I was going to go with either elephants or zombies. 🙂

The right one for what your doing Don't shoot skeet with a 177

I stand corrected. :-) I Googled this and plate steel is used for steel plate that is 1/4 inch or more and less than 1/4 inch is called sheet steel.

50 Yards on the plate steel and 10 yards on the box and 8 inch wood test.

I only have experience with the 35 cal, but I believe the 45 cal would have the same quality. 30 inch is the max barrel length. The rifles shoots 3 inch groups at 100 yards. See this video for long range footage of this rifle... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fyRTGBFH0sY.html

Hi Randy. The reg on the AEA Challenger Elite series are externally adjustable which is really a great feature. The 30 and 357 Cal Long Barrel rifles have internal reg that have to be degassed and tank removed to adjust. The scope I used in this video was the Bushnell ED Match Pro. It's a very solid scope with great ED glass. I think it's about $700. Thanks for watching!

@backyardairguns thx so much for the info! Very interesting. Very cool about the Bushnell scope as I have been looking at Bushnell. Great channel!

Thanks for the subscribe. The Elite 357 is an elephant killer. Most power I've ever seen in an air rifle. I have part 2 of the video coming out tomorrow. The Pellet Shop is sending me the 25 cal Bullpup on Friday to review.

I subscribed to your channel. You caught my attention with "panning for yellow rocks".

@@backyardairguns I appreciate that!! I just moved back to the area I prospect in so hopefully spring will bring the panning videos back with some success

@@backyardairguns I’m also interested in the.25 video! I would say it’s my favorite even though I have been messing around with the 30 a lot lately I’ll always have a 25 nearby

I've got the Challenger shrouded 24 inch 30 cal and it's a beast as well! It's a great rifle and the only thing it needs is a trigger job to make it complete. It even came with the lighter cocking bolt spring so it's super easy to cycle pellets and slugs.😊

Isn't that kind of the same rifle? :-) 320 FPE out of a 357 air rifle is crazy (in a good way). Your comments are very interesting to read. Thanks for watching and following.

@@backyardairguns well yours is regulated, mine, not, and i got the standard vwersion unregulated big bore. that is why it gets so much energy. you lose 20% of your energy when you regulate. but essentially yup similar airgun, mine has a 41mm tank yours has the 52mm that and the bullpup stock on yours is the only sifferences. smiles have you figured out how to get that spare mag into the rear hole in the stock yet? gotta kinda put it half in at an angle and then straighten it out .smiles i cut a similar hole in my longstock to put a mag into.

Thanks!

Take a look at the graph I put up at 2:48 in the video. Below is the shot string from the first 10 shots using the 145g slug. I think 10 shots (one mag) is about where I would want to refill the air or tether to a tank. Shot # Speed Energy 1 NA NA 2 919 272 3 905 264 4 911 267 5 901 261 6 899 260 7 896 258 8 889 254 9 884 252 10 872 245

I read the users manual again on the AEA Elite in 357 cal and there is nothing about a power value on this rifle. The manual state this rifle should get 250 fpe. I was getting 270+ with 145g slugs and Reg set to 200 bar. I think you can add washers to the hammer spring for more power. Thanks for watching.

@@backyardairguns It's call the AEA Challenger and yes they have the power valve. but the stock is different. However, the power of the .357 is over 400fpe and I have the .457 and mine is 60o+ fpe.

Having a reg is nice on guns that have enough air to use the reg. lol I rather have full power for the first shot. You only need one , and if I were to go plinking I don't think I would want a .357 or a .457. My Challenger does very well at 100 yards. However with that reg you can fine tune lighter rounds to be more precise.

No. The AEA Elite can not be silenced. A DonnyFL will take it from about 120db to 110db. :-)

This was Part 2 of the video that focused on Power and Penetration for the Elite 357. Part 1 shows the accuracy at the range at 50 and 100 yards. The link is... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fyRTGBFH0sY.html

You know it. 😀

@@backyardairguns lol, I'd do it if my Ronin would fit. It might could but I couldn't tell by the angle in this video.

I have several AEA rifles and they are all very reliable and very powerful.

@@backyardairguns That is not the same feedback from 90% in all the comment sections

Jedd, Let me set the record straight. You are comparing a 50 cal Elite to my 35 cal Elite. The AEA users manual for this rifle states that the energy for the 35 cal is 250 fpe. In my video, I had the rifle cranked up and was getting 270+ fpe. So I don't want to hear I had the rifle "SET IT UP TO FAIL". If you have truly watched my videos, you would know I am a huge supporter of AEA.

Hi Brandon, I could remove your comments from view. But, I'm gong to take the high road here, and leave your comments up. I welcome all feedback, both positive and negative. My videos help people make choices about which air rifles to use or purchase. Nobody wants our air guns regulated (other than some politicians). The air gun field is a growing and exciting sport witch I'm dedicated to bringing to people that watch my videos. My advice for you is life is too short for Hate, you should stop watching RU-vid channels you hate. :-) Mike