AFFORDABLE ELECTRIC GUITAR RIG FOR WORSHIP 

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my son is a worship guitarist and that's what we pray for about the worship team and church in general, we left a church where the worship leader had no business being there. we found out he would cuss at some of the worship team and was a jerk on top of that , we left the church before he and his wife who was the same were let go but there were some other things going on with that church!

Amen! Gotta be saved and living clean to minister in the house of God! Remember what happened to Eli's sons...

lol

I agree worship is not playing or singing, it is not what this world thinks. It is not what is seen or what is heard by men. There is no glory in men for worship, yet we are the recipients of his perfection when we worship him through spirit and living his truth. Music is great and he made it, but it is not the only way on how we worship, it is only a tool.

That's why churches should have orchestra pits, so the focus is on the Lord and not on the "worship team."

Thank you for this! It was super helpful. Saved me several hundred dollars and I got the sounds I was looking for!

Just screen shotted this and I already have a rig 😂

@@0megalul309 The hx fx is also awesome from the demos I have seen. I do not own one though. I am however a pedal nerd and my collection has grown to around 50 or so stomp boxes.

Cinders is a boss bd-2 clone

@@JacksonDukes Yeah I just learned this recently. Thanks for the correction.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks for sharing Zach.

Churchfront with Jake Gosselin 👍🏻 btw this video came up as a suggestion because I watch a lot of gear videos and rig rundowns, and I was like “Hey I remember that guy from GC” I would have watched/enjoyed the video either way, but seeing a fellow GC Alum was a nice bonus. 😂

Dude! Small world! I did do a double take and think, huh is that the same Zach from Greenville? Thanks for the support!

Thanks Carlos!

Sounds very similar to my rig... but with the Sans Amp Tech 21 NYC amp/cab sim. Signal chain is tuner>compressor>stacked OD's> volume pedal>Tech 21 NYC> 2 delays (1 analog and 1 stereo)> 2 reverbs (1st for light and 2nd for heavy for ambient)> tremolo> DI box to mixer. Yeah I've tried several amp/ sims but I always come back to the Tech 21!!!

Boss pedals can work across the board (pun intended). They are often very affordable used and easy to find on Reverb / ebay / Craigslist. For worship, I'd recommend SD-1 and/or DS-1; any of their reverb series (RV-#) and Delay (DD-#). Those three pedals should be good enough for ground-level electric guitar parts.

Thank you for the info Jason and j on the b😎

I am...

Jesus isn't about religion, perhaps you could become a Christian? Get to know Jesus. Religion is optional.

Lol

Derrick Lugo I don't doubt it. If it was you, what would you recommend?

Thank you so much for the response Mr. Reed! Before I start, I gotta say this, his tone is pretty amazing and he had some awesome tips and advice. However I know from my experience that you don't have to spend a lot to have a lot of killer tone. I have known a lot of guys and gals that get a little deterred when they see names like, VOX and Guitars that have headstocks with Fender or Gibson or PRS on them and pedal boards that look like they can launch Marty McFly Back in time. For worship you don't need a lot and I think your friend had the perfect amount of pedals needed. That said, for the amp and guitar you could go with something more on a budget. I use an Orange Micro Dark, which sounds and looks silly, however it has all the things you'd need to play at a worship gig and still utilize a pedalboard setup if you are playing at a church that doesn't allow amps on stage. It is a tube amp head, single channel, speaker emulated line out, 20 honest watts of power and fit's on a pedal board and has a buffered effects loop for your delay's and reverbs. If the gain structure is an issue, it's easy to swap out the pre amp tube and replace it with a cleaner tube with more headroom like a Groove Tube 12AU7 (and they cost about 10 or 11 dollars new), you can pick up a used Micro Dark cheap for starting about 140 dollars on Reverb.com or a new one for about 180. Then if you want you could replace the tube for about 10 bucks and you have a very pedal friendly amp that you can use either with a direct box to the board/PA or plugged into an 8 to 16 ohm cabinet of your choosing. Thomann.com has a Harley Benton 1x12 Cab with a real Celestion Vintage 30 that goes new for 117 US dollars, and that's kind of the cream of the crop in terms of speakers. If you want an amp that sounds like a Matchless or a Vox, Bugera makes two lines of fantastic amplifiers that fit the bill and have all the modern appointing's. I used a Bugera BC-30 for YEARS and it cost 200 dollars new from musiciansfriend.com when I bought it at the time, and like the Matchless, it was an all tube amp with two different 12 inch speakers, had 4 different sing channels and an effects loop along with the ability to go from 30 to 15 watts, Bugera also have their V22 single channel amp that is modeled after an AC15 and cost half as much. Guitars is a big trickier I feel, there is nothing wrong with owning a Squire, and they offer models that are 100 percent professional and usable in worship. The Squire J Mascics (from Dinosaur Jr.) offer a Jazzmaster type guitar that goes for less than 400 dollars and has the look, feel and play-ability of a guitar double it's price range. G&L makes Fender style strats and telecasters that are quality that I've seen used in many worship bands and damn do they sound fantastic. My main axe for years at my old church was a PRS SE Singlecut stock, it wasn't flashy, it was just a very well made no nonsense instrument and I loved the tones I got out of that thing. And again used you can grab one for 250 to 300 dollars on reverb. If you want to go bang for not much buck, the Harley Benton brand (thomann.com) puts out some amazing guitars for around the 250 dollar price point that are professionally set up, have quality hardware and electronics and are 100 percent professional and are set up by guitar techs in Germany. The thomann website has quite a few, from Les Paul models to Telecaster models and even Jazz master models all retailing for max 300 dollars including shipping. For pedals, I'd recommend checking out cheaperpedals.com. They have some excellent pedals there that are budget friendly and professional quality and to be honest most of them are on my board now. I use a hotone Blues (Blues driver clone) as my main Over Drive pedal, a Joyo Black Rat (Rat clone) for my lead gain and a hotone fat buffer to thicken up my rhythm. All three of those pedals cost less than 50 dollars new and will cover any gain you may need or use in worship. Joyo makes a volume pedal as well that I've been using for over a year that is in the less than 50 dollars price range. I use a Donner Delay Pedal also from that site that cost less than 50 dollars and an old Line 6 M5 for my delay and modulation that you can find used for less than a hundred dollars on guitarcenter.com or Reverb.com. Added up, 350 for pedals, amp/cab/combo starting around 300 dollars, and worship guitar for between 300 to 400 dollars, add a powered pedal board from SKB for 100 dollars on amazon and you have a rig for right around a thousand dollars. And you won't be skimping on quality/tone.

Yes we need more strats in worship

Yeah bro Pod Go is fast and easy and your can basically buy presets

Guitars I’ve owned in order First Act cheapo from Walmart 2. Ibanez rx170 3. Gretsch g5120 Electromatic 4. Reverend Club King RT 5.Epiphone Strat copy 6.MIJ Fender Telecaster had a bigsby and was Olympic white I miss it... 7. Fender Jazzmaster classic 60’s lacquer MIM 8.Squier Telecaster Afinity 9. Random Parts Frankenstein Stratocaster which I bought at a pawn shop for 45 bucks easily the best feeling guitar I’ve played. And for anyone saying I’m showing off. I’m not. I only own the first act and Stratocaster now. Most guitars I bought during my high school years by working my butt off. I had kids and sold lots of my gear off but I almost always only owned one guitar at a time. I don’t know if anyone is reading this if you are thanks! Love Ya

@@juliochavez1308 tbh, you haven't owned any real expensive guitars or played any expensive guitars, which is 100% fine. I agree with your point. I hate when I see alot of worship guitarist using boutique guitars that are easily 4-5k. There is no need for it. I've owned a gibson les paul and I like my Squier jazzmaster much more.

@@derrekmcfarlane7872 my jazzmaster was over 1k after taxes... i think to most players thats on the expensive end and boutique is just unrealistic for us normies.

@@juliochavez1308 most guitar players I know have guitars over 1k. My les paul was 1.5k. But that's not the point. Just watch any elevation worship video or hillsong video and the guitars they use are easily over 3k. When you compare guitar prices to other musical instruments prices, they are not as bad. The tuba and Sousaphone I used in high school where both over 10k. Price is all relative.

@@juliochavez1308 I think when it comes to prices on guitars, anything over 3k you really paying for the cosmetics on the guitar. You can get really great guitars between $500-1,500. You just need to over the name on the headstock. It took me a while to over gear snob-ness and understand that epiphone and Squier Re great guitars

Thanks Jordan! Totally agree. 👍👊

Have a good set this morning, bro.

Well said! I 100% agree. Whatever we do let's do it as passionately and as skillfully as possible. If it cost me 2k to replace my rig so be it.

In my church we do both. In the 24/7 prayer room the sound system is music shop branded china ware, the mixing console a Behringer X32. It's the right balance between to use the money God gives us carefully on one hand and to do the best, what is possible on the other hand.

I use a 2000 $ keyboard instead a 4000 $ one, because I don't see, that I would really need the advantages of the more expensive one.

Foreal brother

Correct

@@Churchfront Lol, cool. Props for having a sense of humor. 👍

Hail

swap out the OCD for the Boss HM-2. that should do it. God bless you! :)

Make sure to include a Dunlop Crybaby From Hell wah

Where you at?

I'm in CS :)

Nice!

Amen

haha my son bought the Strymon delay but liked his Electro Harmonix Cathedral way better so he saved like $500 and he still can play worship haha.

I will say this IMHO the Big Sky was worth it the Timeline not so much... my DD-20 did 95% of what I use my Timeline for.... The Bigsky bloom and cloud verb are just better and presets are so useful which many cheaper RV-6 HOF etc just dont offer. Nut yes do you need it of course not God doesn't care neither should you if you cant justify it. (GFI stuff is as good and cheaper and you are seeing new pros using them and astronomer like in this video but even he says it is more boutique)

Man, tell me abouit it...lots of strymon guys dream of a tone like that...

It’s really nice to hear a guitar player expressing himself out with his own individual tone. A lot of worship guitar players pedal boards consist of about 98% of the same pedals and settings. Sounds all the same lol I actually got rid of some pedals that I had. Yes they were the exact sound but I personally preferred having pedals to my own taste . I play better and can write my own songs without subconsciously trying to sound like other worship groups

Damn, not many people know about j mascis jazzmaster. I'm glad I own one, one of the best guitars I've owned for sure

That's not ridiculous, he is not even using expensive pedals. If you look at other worship guitar players pedal boards some have pedals that are damn near 500 on there own. This pedalboard is very affordable

My pedal board I built this last summer cost around 1500 and that was all used pedals, and I feel I get my money's worth out of it. For how I play in worship, it meets and exceeds my needs and is an investment into my career. Alex invested in his career and his board suits the way he plays. For most worship leaders leading from electric guitar, one overdrive is not enough if you are running a clean amp as you can't just bend down and change the settings on the fly, you need a second stage to stack. Chorus is a non-essential, if I only had 3 pedals for a worship board a chorus would not make it lol. Delay is accurate, but also a dedicated reverb pedal to add more reverb than your amp provides is most of the time just a general expectation

Where do I say in the video we are trying to entertain to grow a church?

@@Churchfront you're right buddy, indeed you did not say that. Is just that when you say "to grow your church" whenever the context is music, high tech, lightning etc, it just doesn't seem right..... Churches grow hopefully because people heard the Word of God and accepted Yeshua as Lord and Saviour. I think beautiful and powerful worship are the 'cherry' on top of the 'cake' , but not the 'cake' itself :) "... faith comes by hearing word of God" Don't get me wrong, I'm a worship leader myself and I literally devour hours of clips like these and really love the work you've been doing brother! You helped me a lot when I was setting up our PA-mixer-inears, etc. Keep up the good work bro!

Not necessarily. Lots of worship bands are transitioning into a different type of sound that lots of cheap gear can’t produce. Helix LT and a cheap guitar could be had for $1100. You don’t have to be rich to have that. Just some hard work and saving up.

This is pretty cheap compared to some big worship bands. And also this is like an ideal rig. Nothing wrong with a amp and guitar and then build from there. That's how I started. I used a j mascis jazzmaster and a fender mustang 1 amp. I have since moved up to a prs se custom 24 and a blackstar ht stage 60 mkii tube amp with some pedals. But it wasn't over night, I built uo to that

No. You play what you can afford, and get the best sound you can. I don't have an electric of my own yet, but the one time I have played electric in church I was using a borrowed Squier Bullet Strat into my Marshall AS50D acoustic amp, and I managed to get a pretty awesome clean tone. You can totally sound great on cheap gear, it just takes a little more work and careful choice than if you have a larger budget. If your worship leader is judging you by the names printed on your gear, they have the wrong attitude.

It’s worth getting custom length cables just to tidy things up.

Lee Rutland they said this in the video

Budget is relative. It’s cheaper than what most professionals use

There are many options out there for under 300 bucks. Look at the squier bullet mustang. It’s 149.99. Guitars are very subjective I’ve played 1500 les Paul’s. 200 dollar squires. And I have owned a 40 dollar pawn shop strat. Play lots of different guitars and see which works best. If you take your time I’m sure you can find a guitar you like for 200.

Are you making assumptions about what someone looks like excluding them from God's work?

And he's NOT standing in front of the congregation at this time. Maybe he just came from work to do a video for us. Do you feel better judging someone else.