African Romance: searching for traces of a lost Latin language 

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salute to our ancient counterparts lol (salam to you ;) )

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many latin words live on in the common tunisian tongue, like qurnita 🐙 kayas 🛣️ quatoos 🐈 and many others

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Hungry hungry hippo

@@tchitchouan Tomorrow it will be the hungry hungry hungry hippo

Oh my God

Hippo Regius

Made me laugh :)

@Elijah Contreras-Velasco Spain briefly occupied Tunis and other Tunisian cities during the 16th century wars against the Ottomans. So one has to be careful in making a generalization here, as word borrowing happens for many different reasons and paces.

Interesting

There were Spanish speaking Jews in north Africa who were expelled from Spain in 1492.

@@petergray2712 Exactly, linguistically it looks more like borrowings from italian or spanish that actual word directly from latin through tamazigh (which is the case for several other words, like one meaning "donkey").

@Elijah Contreras-Velasco same in algeria, we have a LOT of words from latin or more recently from french and spanish (we are neighbors lol), we use words like changla (same meaning as chancla), cusina for kitchen ,etc The thing is most of these words are recent, it's difficult to know wheter vocabulary is from latin or from recent times.

Nope but Germanic languages are certainly trying to bulldoze romance languages.

Que? Hahaha

@@adampope5107 where's the flavour?

And if you think that in the Vatican City they still speak latin (although a very modern form) and the pope is the Pontifex Maximus , you realize the empire transformed in something else

The roman civilisation never collapsed. That was the antic political structure that disapeard. The germanics politically dossociated the roman empire, but it stayed alive in various nations until now.

I did in the past so muuuuuch I'm so happy this video is here

same here

same omg

Tbh I never got why a lot of people are fascinated by this. Is it because the word "Africa" invokes images of a faraway exotic land that is alien to Rome? the reality is that "Africa" was just a coastal Mediterranean region that is a stone throw away from Italy, a region that was one of the earliest to become Romanized. British Latin has always sounded more intriguing to me since Britannia was a distant outpost of the empire.

@@GarlicOasis no weirdo, it's just the seeming lack of direct evidence for it that makes it so enticing and mysterious. It's also never mentioned.

Nice

cool

Nice 👍🏻.

Every single time that I draw alternate universe maps, I have to unite most of North Africa into Carthage. It's just such a fucking awesome idea.

@@enotsnavdier6867 “Punic, more like, Pubic.” -Scipio Aemilianus

But carthage is not Roman, it's Phoenician.

Qat, not qattus

@@boomrang9503 Carthage was rebuilt by the Romans and was one of the most important cities in the Roman Empire for centuries.

"Catta/Cattus" is a loan word from a native African language into Latin. "Feles" (cf. "Feline") was the Latin word for a cat.

Ara0liver that native language must be punic since it shares semitic roots with arabic and cat in arabic is qat

And I can't wait to see every single one of them lol

I wanna take a jab at it lol

somebody already made vandalic and it's really cool

@@henryleonardi5368 I'll look it up.

Henry Leonardi Vandalic is a real Germanic language from what I found.

A bulgar Vulgarian

@@pyrrhocorax That's my joke. The word vulgar in English comes from the greek word for the Bulgar tribe, which gave name to the country of Bulgaria

@@nikolaytsankov9066 The word "vulgar" is of Latin origin, not Greek. Isn't the name Bulgaria of Turkic origin? But, yeah, I just tried to make a make a bad joke based on the joke you made.

It is interesting how language primes the brain to finely differentiate sounds that matter and to ignore, sometimes to the point of near deafness, those sounds that don't matter in said language. There's a sound in Turkish that occurs in my GF's friend's name. She's taken on a nickname due to English speaking Americans' inability to even hear it let alone say it. It sounds identical to a curled OO sound to me, but that's apparently very wrong.

In Spanish aswell

I'm amazigh from Morocco, and in amazigh, Foulous its chicken :)) I think its a amazigh word but with a latin roots.

Prince Kareem Foulos is very similar to Pollo, which is Chicken in Italian

@Yavieg Oranje coincidence?

In moroccan and algerian arabic the word for male sheep is عتروس 'atrūs . The defining letters of the word changed but the "us" ending is there too. So they may be a correlation.

@@marocb0y we have the word عتروس too in Tunisia, but from my experience, it is used metaphorically much more than literally.

queso horno pera camisa spanish for ya =P

The word camisa is of Celtic origin, but I can see it going to Libya through Latin, so that's only fair =P

In the kabyle language : Avernus Akermus Agendus Drus There is many words end with "us" But I think it's from the German influence.

Agendus looks and sounds like ''agenda'' in portuguese, so can be a portuguese/french/spanish influence in kabyle language

In Spanish, we say camisa.

Epic

The language the Muslims spoke in Iberia was definitely Mozarabic.

Amazing

I FREAKING LOVE IT

Fascinating material!

You could read this somewhere

i already read this in Augustine's Confessiones

This has actually been a topic I've thought about quite a bit the past few months as well.

Your purpose is complete

Duodecimus .Anemoi me too bro

Hi there! Do young amazigh people in the Riff speak tamazight in general or is there a shift to Arab?

champimuros no they speak Tamazight, and they really love it

We speak both

(Arabic)Moroccan-Darija and our native tongue, Tamazight

Im berber rifian from north morocco RIFLAND.

thanks that's so interesting! which amazigh language is this tho?

Makes sense. Carthage was founded by Phoenicians who are historically linked to just north of the historical homeland of Hebrew.

The Cartagena mentioned in the video used to be Carthago Nova during Roman times, so "New New City".

Imagine how funny it would be to realize the Colombian city is new new new Carthage

@@garyermann I've looked into Punic. It's semi-intelligible to Hebrew speakers.

@@petersantos6395 new new new *city

The Vandals did control Sardinia for a time so maybe some of this has to do with them

Although as the video mentioned, the Vandals didn't force their own language onto the north africans and sards, as they used latin as administrative language it would be funny to imagine an Afro- Vandalic language that stuck to the region. Something they would've called 'african goth', 𐌰𐍆𐍂𐌹𐌺𐌰𐍂𐌰𐌶𐌳𐌰 maybe?

Even if the Vandals didn't enforce their rule, some traits of Spoken Vandal might have left footprints on the Latin spoken, after all, if you speak a language and have problem saying a certain sound, then said mistake can become the norm. After all, the English word Queen is not only a spelling mistake but a pronunciation mistake. Sure it's Quinna in older English, meaning woman, and sure it got adopted alongside Quningas, and the similarities between the words and seeing as the Saxon word Woman existed, it got elevated into being spouse of royal.

I mean, it simply didn't have a lot of time to evolve under a new power. Latin in Africa wasn't different from latin in southern Gaul either. There are some regional variations in latin at all times (especially latin used in graffiti or on tombs), but in this video there's confusion between phenomena that are common for all latin dialects (like how -m isn't pronounced anymore), regional variants, social class, influence from other languages etc. We have zero evidence that the Vandals influenced the local latin dialect with germanic words. In fact, we only have evidence that the local dialect wasn't classical latin anymore, and they stopped using it since there was no longer a latin-speaking elite (which were the only ones to still be able to "speak" classical latin, which sounded archaic at this point). Many linguistic shifts that lead to the differenciation of Romance languages didn't happen yet (such as long i becoming e in italian). So the latin of Africa was basically indistinguisable from latin in most areas of western europe, except maybe from some local words used by the plebeians, but it wasn't much more different than the different english variants in the USA, really.

Lol same thing with their Arabic

Oh not in Utica, no, it’s an Algiers expression.

I'm a resident of Utica, myself. And I back up your story

Good Lord, what is happening there?!

Could someone explain to me what do you mean by that ? I'm not from Utica obviously, but from Tunis.

@@SeptimiusAfer240 it's a reference to the steamed hams meme where Superintendent Skinner says "well I'm from Utica but I've never heard of steamed hams." The Utica here being in New York rather than Tunisia

Well the Romans of England left very little evidence of their language before it was replaced with Brithonic languages and then Germanic with the migrations of the Jutes, Saxons, and Angles. We have a few tablets and writings by soldiers and locals in the region to work off of but not much. We can tell that there was a preservation of v being pronounced as w and we can see that it underwent both palatalization like Gallic and Iberian varieties of Latin and lenition like Celtic languages did. It would have had a Brithonic substrate as well. Otherwise scholar are all in disagreement over what it exactly would look like and have many competing theories.

​@@hoathanatos6179 Wouldn't Brittonic have been spoken in Britain at the same time as Latin rather than replacing it given that the Celts were here first?

the black spot in the middle of Europe is probably Hungary. Hungarians came from the northeast and conquered that area around 800 I think. even though historians think that the conquerors were a minority compared to the nations already living there, they became the leaders and somehow their finno-ugric language stuck.

@@eperke2933 It stuck because Hungary is in the Carpathian Basin surrounded by mountains that isolated them.

@@lost4eva081980 Yeah, and it totally was, especially in the West and North where the Romans weren't as populous. Some of the Latin tablets and inscription we have are accompanied by Brithonic text since it was still highly spoken and influential on the Roman dialects spoken. If a Romance language remained in Britain into the present it most likely would have been heavily influenced by Celtic mutations, pronunciations, and vocabulary and would have sounded more like modern Welsh but with clear Romantic grammar and vocab. We can tell that many Latin Ds for instance turned into Welsh DDs or Đs and certain Ls and Rs would have probably turned into LL and Rh especially when preceded by fricatives and vowels. We can tell that like Italian and Spanish -us and -um became -o as well and some inscriptions may signify vowel fronting on stressed vowels, like one says Protictor rather than Protector. If I wanted to say I'm going home it might be written something like "Io vato/vaddo all chasa/al gasa." Where ll is a a voiceless lateral fricative and ch is a voiceless uvular fricative.

Funny how in Sassari (Sardinia) we have the same situation!

@mPky1 A quick search says there's no p but there is f.

@@williamramsey9140 Late Punic also evolved all of their p into f

Well, in spanish we have [b] but we mostly use [β] as well!, that's because we speak so fast that the words sound like one single word, so we use the [β] sound, also making it easier to pronounce, we use the [b] sound mostly in foreign vocabulary, and sometimes not even that xd

So... we still exist and poeple still think we are arabs!!? Thats how we live no one knows about us. As a libyan orfalian who is amazighian i hate being mistaked for arabs

ofsinope dalmatien the missing link between Italian and romanian

Marcel Costache indeed.

@@marcelcostache2504 there was romance dalmatian. al ancient dalmatian poets and writers wrote in latin and slavic-dalmatian. there was ventian dialect though as dalmatia was part of it. todays romanian is not even 200 years old. theres cyrilic alphabet which means romanian was slavic.

@@tiami3886 50 iq

@@tiami3886 You're wrong. "todays romanian is not even 200 years old" - We understand very well the Neacșu letter (1521). Romanian hasn't change very much in the last 500 years, unlike English. Also wrong: "theres cyrilic alphabet which means romanian was slavic" What logic is this? Language and alphabet are different things. I can write Romanian language in any alphabet if I want. Cyrillic was used mainly due to orthodox church, but Romanian texts were also written with Latin alphabet (i.e. Todorescu text - in 1570).

The B/V deal also happens in Galician and some dialects of Catalan due to Spanish influence.

@@vicmonteir0 Linking the origins of betacism in Galician and Catalan to Spanish influence is debatable. Specially considering the phenomenon is present in Catalan speaking areas that never saw any significant influence from Spanish (Rossellò, L'Alguer, Andorra, etc.), and that the phenomenon is common to both Galicia and northern Portugal.

I love the european accent of portuguese, and I got scared when he pronounced it perfectly

@@vicmonteir0 - Not "Spanish" influence: substrate Vasconic influence most likely instead.

@gay AF Every human fcks up their own languages. Even the most conservative old people. The history of language change is always a tug-of-war between centrifugal tendencies of humans and some centripetal forces like written language materials and traditions.

Interesting language, Arabic roots but with majority Romance vocab. A video would be great.

@@generaldissatisfaction5397 langfocus channel made video on that

TheSkepticalApple I was actually wondering why Malta was not really mentioned here. The Vandals got to Malta but the didn’t stay long.

Bonġu min Malta. Semitic but written in Latin. We are a product of our history. (And a lot of swearing when writing it down )

Also the only semitic language using the latin alphabet! I love Maltese. ❤️

How do they make you emotional?

Nice pfp

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​@@denizmetint.462I can relate. If you tell me that millions of people died during WW1, I'd remain unphased. If you tell me that there are only a few speakers left of a language, which has become an isolate because all its sister languages are dead or extinct, I'd genuinely be very sad.

Hippo means horse.

​@@richardcoiner3888 Me and my physio in hospital were just speaking of this, pontus means river right? That was the example word he gave, He explained how Greek invents new words and how he found studying medicine in English easier than he thought as many of the medical words used are simply multiple (sometimes shorter) words with simpler concepts put together to explain more complex things, and also how for example the Aorta is Aorti or something like that which in Greek language essentially translates as "a strap to hang (something by)" with implied meaning from there own etymologic history that makes it obvious this words meaning and association with the heart. Might have butchered this and nobody asked for it but language info is always fun to share & learn imo

Hippo in modern day is one of the most prosporous cities in africa

Never thought about it.

@@denizmetint.462 Yeah, I alwAys thought they spoke Arabic or Berber

There were already Arab document talking about them speaking their own language which was actually Berber not Roman! Also this tongue was commun in morroco Algeria and Tunisian with some variation. Also it's still largely spoken today

JB TALK COCK STATION_新山吹水站 that’s not true , Umayyad army and elite spoke Arabic , and those from North Africa (new convert Muslims) spoke Berber , there is no evidence of Berber warriors in Umayyad army speaking any other languages than Berber and Arabic .

@@hassanbassim4007 It is an interesting proposition/theory nonetheless...

Under norman rule too !

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Catalan: faç, cara, visatge, rostre. They all mean 'face' as well

Verdade, porém visagem não é muito usado.

@@josuegabriel8066 É bem mais usado na literatura.

Spanish: faz, cara, visaje, rostro Italian: faccia, viso, rostro - but to my knowledge "rostro" pretty much only means a bird's beak. I'm only kinda haltingly proficient in Italian, but I don't recall 'cara' or anything like it in common use.

@@logansorenssen "visaje" doesn't exist.

@@ZWEA88 Islam has corroded, or rather shall I say, erased, most of the local cultures it has invaded (the only exception I can think of is Indonesia). An alternative history version where the coast of North Africa - such as Tynisia where Carthage used to be - was never invaded by muslims is an extremely interesting thought experiment, and I thank you for helping me take note of it. It probably wouldn't still be 100% romance-based, rather a blend between local ancient culture and latin influence, but then again, if you look at countries like Portugal or France, very little to nothing remains of the ancient Gaul peoples' culture. As a non-muslim Mazice, what do you think these regions would look like today, had it not been for the heavy muslim influence?

​@@ZWEA88 As a southern Portuguese, when I hear Berber music or see a local horse festival I think "these are my people". Now I don't know if it's because of common roots or because our ancestors spent so much time at each other's throats that they became brothers. Maybe any is ok I guess.

@@ZWEA88 Tbh i feel closer to non-arab levantines than for ex. southern europeans. A lot of us got not only Arabized, but Latinized too lol. A lot of North Africans are okay with one thing but not with the other. Romans also imposed their culture on us, just like Arabs. It is what it is tho, this happened all the time before written history.

Hebrew was considered extinct in the 19th to early 20th century since the Hebrew spoken across Europe has been creolised which led to the creation of Jewish languages such as "Yiddish" in Judaeo-Germanic or "Ladino" in Judaeo-Spanish dialect. As of now, with the creation of the State of Israel, Hebrew made a comeback and removed as much of foreign influences to keep it pure. If they can do it, so can you. You are a Berber not an Arab. Arabs are from Arabia not from Africa or Levant.

@@yasmina10013 Agreed. You don't need to revive African Romance but rather, you should preserve your language. Write more poems and books in Amazigh not in Arabic or French or Spanish. Be proud of your culture! Remember the last Berber Queen before the conquest of the Muslims? Queen Dihya, a Christian-Berber Queen who sought to protect and preserve the Berber language who bravely fought off the Arab-Muslims? Make her proud by rising up and preserve the culture of Tamazigh people! DO IT! I am rooting for you!

It's clearly not related to North African Latin. It's a Vasconic (or "Iberoid") substrate/adstrate influence that is very pervasive in Iberian romances but also in Gascon. As the video says Visigothic era Iberians did confuse v/b, so it must be very old (also Greeks confuse v/b equally and pronounce all them /b/, Italians on the other hand retain the old Latin distinction).

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Please this!

Nononono

Anglo-Saxons: no

As a Spaniard I'm frequently surprised by the proximity of Spanish and English vocabularies to the point that I doubt English could be considered a Germanic language. For you to realize: Como español me sorprende frecuentemente la proximidad de los vocabularios español e inglés hasta el punto de que dudo que el inglés pueda ser considerado una lengua germánica.

@@newhuskytwenty I only under the second paragraph because I have a background in French and Latin

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@@mansionbookerstudios9629 she's a Nazi

Kind of wild to think there could've been a Germanic language from Africa

@@t_ylrAfrikaans?

@@geelen7829 Vandalish

Random fact:there's a tree somewhere around which he allegedly used to hang out

The Vandals also were Arians, believing there was a time when the Son was not, while the people they conquered were Nicene Christians, who didn't.

That explains some awkward situations I've had with Spanish speaking people. For example, I once replied to what I thought was "where do you live?" but the actual question was meant to be "when do you leave?"

Why so? If you can distinguish between, yo gusto, y, el gustó. Duerme y dormiré, está y esta, este y esté, etc. I think it may personal quirk to your English acquisition.

@@John_Jim the, i, sound in, live, does not in Spanish. They just use their sound of, i.

@@John_Jim cuando te vas vs donde tu vives 🤔i don't see room for error

*Frnkn shw como rumano puedo pronunciar y hablar español sin problemas y aunque trabajo y hablo ingles desde mas de 20 años aun tiengo exactemente el mismo dificultad que vos😅 Saludos desde Canada y feliz navidad 🎄.

amen!

You legit made me laugh

Since Amzinga shares this feature it also suggests a link between the Basque and Berber peoples. This falls in line with the genetic studies comparing the two

North Portuguese also has problems with the V and B. Except its the exact opposite and they replace the supposed V by a B instead.

This happens very often in languages, independently. Many germanic languages flipped f>v>b back and forth many times, just compare german "aber", "Hebel", "Sieb" with central bavarian "åwa" "Hewi" Siwi" or dutch "hefboom" "zeef".

In classical Latin the 'V' was pronounced like 'U' in Italian and Spanish. So is the 'V' sound of English, French, and other romance languages a development from vulgar Latin?? Because of that I don't think the b/v confusion is of Basque/Gascon origin. Maybe it was born out of vulgar Latin's developed into different romance languages?

@@davsalda It could perhaps be a Basque/Iberian influence on (an earlier form of) Vulgar Latin (i.e. Latin as spoken by the common people that was brought to Spain in the Roman era).

Greetings from the USA! I kind of wish I spoke a minor language natively so I could help keep it alive, but for me it’s just boring old English :( I was really fascinated by the stuff about your language, I guess I thought it was a local variant of Italian, but hearing about it sounds super cool

@@gwest3644 Thanks man! Yeah it's a separate, somewhat older language than Italian :-) If you wanna learn more let me know.

@El Mauro You are correct, Sardinians preserve the highest % of Early European Farmers heritage, some kind of relic from the past :-) . Sardinian is the oldest surviving branch of Latin, it is not intelligibile with Italian at all, so an Italian speaker would find it very hard to understand. In a sense, if you see it written, you'll spot many similarities with Spanish and Portuguese, such as the plurals made with an -S at the end of the nouns. Phonetics, however, make it a bit harder than that :-)

No one in Puerto Rico speaks Yoruba. I really doubt it is spoken anywhere else in the Caribbean. Some inherited vocabulary does not mean a language is spoken.

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@@joseanfigueroa8785 Puerto Rico has religious traditions of Yoruba origins, so it's likely that some words at least are present. More of a few are surely present in Cuba, Haiti, North East Brasil (Bahia mostly) and other areas where Youruba people were brought to in slavery time. Currently spoken? Likely not. Still used in specific religious and traditional context? Definitely yes.

Yoruba is not the only African language with loanwords in American speech, Akan also plays a part in Jamaica

Get better soon!

Whitney Hanson Thanks! It was a depressing Christmas... I’ve been sick for days :(

same for me all this week i was searching and thinking about this African romance

Can't talk about Roman Africans without mentioning Augustine 😃

@@Skadi609 if by roman african you mean Amazigh then meh why not, sure.

Nate Starr : In his book ''Les confessions'' (I read it in French), he talks about the night were he said good bye to his mother, Monica, before embarking on a ship the next morning bound for Italy. She was crying, etc. It was in a small chapel on the beach of Carthage (Tunisia). I saw a commemorative stone in Carthage some 25 years ago saying that a chapel ued to be on that spot in Roman times. So that was the exact place were that scene of the Confessions took place. A very emotional scene in the book.

@@adnanafulay3142 Yes I was talking about North Africans who were part of the Roman Empire.

@@kb-tu2kf I read this passage in French, too. Very sad indeed. He stayed with her till the very end and closed her eyes.

That's really neat, man! I wish you luck! What are you studying? I minored in linguistics and did a year of a grad program, but realized as much as I loved linguistics, I didn't like the program and wasn't getting enough support. I now just study the topic at my leisure. Good luck!! :) :)

I did that cursus for a year, maybe that's because the university I was in sucked (because it does suck, it's considered one of the worst in the country) but I got bored to tears and I left before the end of the semester and my friends that took it as well left for another one at the end of the year. I hope it was just a problem with the professors I got and that this isn't just the course itself that is the problem because I wish that your studies go well. Where do you plan to go ?

Who cares?

@@maxx1014 three comments before you. And if you don't care, you should've just ignored the comment and moved on. :)

@@kornaes no I don't get why he writes completely random stuff about his personal life under a linguistic video. To simply say "move on" isn't really an argument when I'm asking me the question why somebody should write about this stuff under such a video.

They are called 'mistakes' because the original document was supposed to be written in Classical Latin instead of actual vernacular language of the authors. Written languages tend to cling on the 'tradition' as far as they can, with only certain mistakes slipping in.

The whole early umayyad history is weird and mysterious.

Starting by the fact that the people who live in Gibraltar are mostly Iberians who speak English, some of them hate the other Iberians, others, want to kick the English out of there. Oh, and the Spanish people surrounding them want that piece of land back, from here to a hundred years it isn’t as crazy to see the kingdom of Spain regaining that bit of land. In the meanwhile, however, we must add that Spain and Morocco are too in a Mexican standoff due to the African territories that belong to Spain, we’re not even including Portugal in that meddling. Obviously it’s tremendously difficult for the scholars of those countries, who are the most interested in studying that, to have a collaborative, comprehensive and extensive study of the subject because of that, specially since these current problems are backed with history itself, Islam cutoff Northern Africa form what would end up being the western world, 2 of those countries entire national identity have been built upon the fact that they had to fight the Muslims for the land that always was rightfully theirs, and Spain and the Hispanic cultural sphere have been attacked for long by the anglo cultural sphere, which complicates things a little further.

What's so mysterious? Obviously Riffians spoke Riffian (as they still do now) and all others spoke some form of Latin more or less bastardized. Of course it depends how much distant your "surrounding" scope is but basically: Berber and Latin in North Africa and Iberian remnants like Basque and Latin in Iberia (Celtic died because it was an elite conqueror language that could not compete with Latin).

@@juandavidrestrepoduran6007 - Actually Gibraltarians are settlers: the natives of Gibraltar were expelled upon English conquest.

@@LuisAldamiz I don't think so, Gibraltar is still inhabited by Spaniards.

yeah the 9af is guttural and hard for non native speakers .

The Vandals only ruled Africa for a hundred years, and Sardinia even shorter. They also were a tiny minority in these lands.

varana312 true but if you take in eastern Roman/Byzantine accounts in the Roman reconquest of Africa by Belisarius the vandals where very romanized and latinised it is clear that in 100 years they where almost completely assimilate into Roman/African culture.

Vandals used Sardinia only as a starting point to get to other lands. They've never imposed their language on any land they went to and their stance in Sardinia was so short that they didn't leave any linguistic trace of their stay in Sardinian, unlike other peoples.

It's more the common Punic history.

Vandals stayed in Sardinia for less than 80 years, they only owned the coasts since the mountain interior was independent.

I've figured that out, and may God bless him forever more and help us preserve even the smallest traces of this lost language we call "African Romance".

Latin is dead because usually no one teaches it as a first language to children,as it was with Hebraic.

@@Bronze_Age_Sea_Person Calling Latin "dead" makes no sense. No one says "English is dead" because we're aren't speaking Old English anymore. Modern Romance languages are just as Latin as modern English is English, modern Greek is Greek, modern Chinese is Chinese.

@@kekeke8988 No.. I think it's really dead just like our native TAmazighT language in Tunisia unfortunately

Thanks

Well it kinda is bro

Yoo hey

Berbers were not unhappy about Carthage being "deleted" I must say.

Nah, we don't care about Carthage.

There's a lengthy essay on the phrase here: en.antiquitatem.com/felices-hispani-quibus-vivere-est-bibere And for TL;DR, the conclusion is that while the concepts (wordplay on bibere and vivere, and the Spanish mixing b and v) are older, the saying itself is from the Renaissance.

@@varana Excellent article. Thanks for sharing.

Its actually wrong, in old spanish it would rither be bivere bivere or biuere biuere.

In Latin bibere means to drink. Nunc est bibendum, do You remember Horatius?

@@fabianofonda6758 In Luhya languages; mabere or Mavere means milk and also sorghurm for poridge, pera means pears, Kamisi means "inner wear for women."

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El Negro

Actually it is still spoken in libya tunisia algeria and morocco and they call it amazighian (I am amazighian) and north africans (Mghreb) aren't arabs but they can speack arabic

@@shayatbenskeep2465 you mean berberic lenguage? I don't think that is romanic lenguage.

@@zeljkomikulicic4378 Yeah but it called amazighian