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Battleship New Jersey
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Learn how the Battleship New Jersey could be steered if her three other steering locations had been knocked out. Aft steering is located four decks deep in the ship, behind 14.5 inches of armor. Aft steering is connected directly to the giant hydraulic steering rams which move the massive rudders.

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@leelawrence1557
@leelawrence1557 3 года назад
This was my underway watch station during the 1986 cruise. Brings back some memories.
@fredwood8158
@fredwood8158 3 года назад
Question: AS the last active position, what do you do while the other steering positions are active? I assume the wheel moves on its own until and you just watch it until you are alerted, but what else do you and the other positions do while the dominate wheel is in control?
@BattleshipNewJersey
@BattleshipNewJersey 3 года назад
Most stories we've heard involve listening to music and napping. Just kidding, sort of.
@leelawrence1557
@leelawrence1557 3 года назад
@@fredwood8158 In after steering you monitor rudder position by the brass dial directly behind the trick wheel. You also have to check the rudder packing around the rudder stem attached to the yolk. Always looking out for hydraulic leaks. Making sure the hydraulic tank is topped off, and shifting the standby unit to online then placing the online unit to standby, normally done every 24 hours on the midwatch. Checking filter elements. And maintain comms with the bridge. You never know when you will need to take local control. So yes it can be a boring watch station, but hell if you don't pay attention to details.
@raitchison
@raitchison 3 года назад
Still amazing to me that these spaces were manned outside of special conditions like GQ, Sea & Anchor or Restricted Maneuvering.
@graymodeler
@graymodeler 3 года назад
I stood bridge watch back in 1969 on a cruiser. We had sound powered headsets that were linked to the lookouts and the aft steering. I never heard from those guys but they must have been there!
@spydude38
@spydude38 2 года назад
Stood many an underway watch in Aft Steering on an ammunition ship which only had single rudder. It was hot, loud, and lots of vibrations, which made it a challenge sometimes to stay awake during midwatch, as you were often alone with only the soundpowered phones (not a phone like on the BB After Steering) the only link to the bridge. There was an air raid alarm that would go off when the bridge decided to conduct a test of after steering that would wake the dead. I recall the process being the alarm would sound. The bridge would tell you to prepared to take control of the helm using which motor/cable (port or Starboard) and to steer either by rudder angle indicator or magnetic heading via the compass. You'd then turn a barrel switch to energize the designated motor/cable which was located opposite one of the two (port or starboard) steering wheels. Then you'd turn around and push the engagement plunger in the middle of the wheel and test your rudder left five degrees and then right five degrees and announce you had control of the helm to the bridge. You would steer a course either given to you over the phones using the aforementioned gyro compass located just above the steering wheel. Or the helm would engage the rudder angle indicator also located in front of you and above, which was a remote steering arrow that you'd see them moving and you would steer to match their movement. It worked well unless you managed to jam the rudder by turning it too far in one direction.
@irohaboat
@irohaboat 3 года назад
Fun fact: the steering is independently controlled. Meaning one rudder can turn one way and the other the other way. This is useful for what's called an Emergency Crashback (needing to stop the ship in the shortest distance, such as going full speed forward, then throwing into reverse). One Iowa-class, Missouri or Wisconsin, in being decommissioned (WWII I believe) decided to try using the rudders, as they weren't allowed before, as you'll see. So they turned both rudders inward, instead of them turning together. This helped with the crashback, however it damaged the rudders to the point there was a noticeable vibration in the aft end and steering. Thinking this was the last time (being commissioned) it was fine, but she was recommsioned and it was still there. This was only fixed in her 1980's refit.
@Thomasnmi
@Thomasnmi 2 года назад
Is this what is called " barn dooring"?
@Studio23Media
@Studio23Media 2 года назад
This same technic is used for air braking on some fighter jets! I had no idea it was used on ships too.
@thurin84
@thurin84 2 года назад
oooppppsssssiiii!
@sgt.gunslinger1532
@sgt.gunslinger1532 3 года назад
Yall should get a sponsorship from wargaming. They help to fund tank museums by sending community contributors to the museums. Once everything opens back up, it should allow for a lot of extra content in the form of videos and interviews.
@EdgarStyles1234
@EdgarStyles1234 3 года назад
amen to this
@loficampingguy9664
@loficampingguy9664 3 года назад
Inside the Chieftain's Hatch on the USS New Jersey when?
@thawk1435
@thawk1435 3 года назад
But please no music!! lol
@Rutherford_Inchworm_III
@Rutherford_Inchworm_III 2 года назад
The US military is not interested in climbing into bed with the Russians. Chieftain gets away with it because he does it in his off-duty time.
@safety_doggo2
@safety_doggo2 2 года назад
​@@Rutherford_Inchworm_III The fuck the Russians are gonna do with the New Jersey, What are they just gonna restart the Sov. Souyz class-battleships and use the New Jersey as a guide?
@smitm108
@smitm108 3 года назад
... as has been said. This site is like 'crack' (or so I'm told) - the videos are addictive!
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 3 года назад
safe is a relative term...if you’re steering the ship from down there you’re in deep trouble, vulnerable to subs as you’re limping along, and possibly flooding! it’d be a miracle to get out alive if the two most dreaded words were spoken: abandon ship
@davidvanderven
@davidvanderven 2 года назад
"Our superstructure is gone, our turrets are knocked out, but we have control"
@compmanio36
@compmanio36 3 года назад
This is why these things were so expensive, and so absolutely beasts to take down. There are redundancies for the redundancies for the redundancies. Compare that to a modern destroyer that is much more easily taken out and has far less redundancy (and far more reliance on electronics and computers that can be taken out). You could literally blow up half the ship, and the ship could still maneuver and fight.
@freebird1ification
@freebird1ification 2 года назад
yep good thing the chineese are making the chips for the computers we know how good they are with keeping you full of extra chips lol
@compmanio36
@compmanio36 2 года назад
@@freebird1ification I'm certain there's no kill switches or anything like that in the microcode put there by the Chinese government for when we go to war. I'm sure we'll do fine. Not like we're being systematically destroyed from the inside out already via division in our ranks and political game playing instead of training our people how to fight and kill the enemy.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 3 года назад
That’s a good pitch-allows us to do restoration work and open more spaces! It’s the active language.
@cmsracing
@cmsracing 2 года назад
That was my GQ station...on Mine Sweepers. Just a little bit different in size!
@harleycolwell2886
@harleycolwell2886 Год назад
Oh, awesome! Thanks!😊🙂
@TWOHEADEDOGRE
@TWOHEADEDOGRE 2 года назад
When I was in the coast guard the hydraulic systems in aft steering was my job during general quarters
@tstahler5420
@tstahler5420 2 года назад
After steering on my ship had a ridiculous little wheel that had to be cranked like 10 times for 1°, it sucked.
@davejones67
@davejones67 3 года назад
Nice!
@raitchison
@raitchison 3 года назад
I think the 08 level bridge is armored, just not anywhere close to the degree that the 03/04 level spaces are.
@GodOfWar109
@GodOfWar109 3 года назад
Can you do a video on how steering is actually transferred from one of the various places to the other
@BattleshipNewJersey
@BattleshipNewJersey 3 года назад
Its as simple as turning a switch
@supersnot4
@supersnot4 3 года назад
@@BattleshipNewJersey I'm assuming the aft steering station can take priority over the others, in case the forward steering stations are unable to transfer steering?
@BattleshipNewJersey
@BattleshipNewJersey 3 года назад
Absolutely
@terrellburnette7556
@terrellburnette7556 3 года назад
When I was underway onboard various Navy ships, we would only run one Hydraulic Power Unit (HPU) on each rudder during normal underway steaming. We would switch units at midnight for each rudder. Both HPUs on each rudder would be on during UNREPS or sea and anchor details. Did the Iowas do the same thing?
@briangulley6027
@briangulley6027 3 года назад
I assume the 0-8 level was the standard for non combat operations since it has the best observation. The 0-4 would the combat post and the other 2 as emergency back ups.
@williamsmith3857
@williamsmith3857 3 года назад
What about main engine steering ???
@LexieAssassin
@LexieAssassin 3 года назад
So do smaller, less massive ships use rams too, or is this a common practice? I think I saw a video of the last piston steamship that was in the UK once and I seem to recall that the rudder was run off a hydraulic pump that turned a gear which was connect to a partial gear thingy that was connected to the rudder by a shaft or something like that.
@tovemaersk
@tovemaersk 2 года назад
Almost all sea going vessels over 500grt will use hydraulic rams to drive the rudder.
@DutcherDog
@DutcherDog 2 года назад
Is your belt hanging out as a signal to the ladies or because you have lost a lot of weight ?
@patrickptmonk8673
@patrickptmonk8673 2 года назад
Half of your videos are in the dark. What parts of the ship are lit? What is the electricity situation? How it is controlled now that you don't use the generators?
@BattleshipNewJersey
@BattleshipNewJersey 2 года назад
We use shore power. Essentially, if its a place that guests can get to or an office, or a passage to one of those places, its lit. Otherwise, mostly not.
@CRAZYHORSE19682003
@CRAZYHORSE19682003 3 года назад
I always wondered who would be left to command the ship if the conning tower and other above deck steering locations were taken out. Sure you can steer the ship from aft steering but who is going to tell them where to go?
@randyogburn2498
@randyogburn2498 3 года назад
In general that's why it's called a chain of command. The person in charge is whoever is left highest up the chain.
@terrydouglas5008
@terrydouglas5008 3 года назад
@@randyogburn2498 one minor correction, whoever is senior that still has communications. Guns can be fired from several locations, including in the turrents.
@AcesnEights698
@AcesnEights698 2 года назад
Jesus take the wheel!
@AvengerII
@AvengerII 3 года назад
Before they overengineered the Klingon race in Star Trek: The Next Generation -- he has redundancy upon redundancy, 2 of everything! --, there was the Iowa Class Battleship! Man, with this level of redundancy in the steering, what else was overengineered?!? I thought a good chunk of the reason these ships were finally decommissioned was the cost of keeping them in top shape with all these systems. The only ship that sounds more complicated is probably the aircraft carrier.
@alisterbennett
@alisterbennett 3 года назад
I wouldn’t call it over engineered... a battleship is designed to be able to fight as it absorbs damage. Think of Bismark - nearly made it to occupied France when an 18" torpedo jammed the rudders in the off centre position... Several hours latter HMS Nelson and HMS King George V arrived to finish her as a fighting ship. Lesson? protect the vulnerable parts of the ship to keep her fighting (and running if required)
@FIREBRAND38
@FIREBRAND38 2 года назад
I agree that I wouldn't call it over engineered but of course, there were multiple redundancies built into each gun turret.
@U.F.0.
@U.F.0. 3 года назад
Any closer to opening this space up? Is Ryan reading off of cue cards or does he rehearse? If not, he has an impressive amount of knowledge about that ship. 👍👍
@BattleshipNewJersey
@BattleshipNewJersey 3 года назад
No cue cards, the occasional post it note with numbers. And no, we are not any closer to getting this space open.
@ProperLogicalDebate
@ProperLogicalDebate 3 года назад
If the ship was listing, or if "abandon ship" was called, how would you get out?
@mrz80
@mrz80 2 года назад
That 6" thick hatch in the overhead he climbed thru to get in.
@markcantemail8018
@markcantemail8018 2 года назад
@@mrz80 That heavy hatch would be 30% more boyant if it was Underwater ? I think .
@mrz80
@mrz80 2 года назад
@@markcantemail8018 That would be of dubious benefit to the poor swabs *in* the compartment if the hatch was underwater, methinks. 😐
@tc556guy
@tc556guy 3 года назад
So how does control get switched from one steering area to another? How does the person in the depths of the ship SEE where they're steering the ship or or from? I've been watching several of these videos now and I kind of feel confused after watching this one
@BattleshipNewJersey
@BattleshipNewJersey 3 года назад
To switch control there's basically a dial that gets turned. Someone out on deck gets on the phone and calls the person inside the ship that is steering.
@tc556guy
@tc556guy 3 года назад
@@BattleshipNewJersey Thank you. How's is the visibility issue handled from deep inside the ship?
@BattleshipNewJersey
@BattleshipNewJersey 3 года назад
Its just done by phone. Keep in mind, even other ships are usually not super close so we don't have as much of a risk of hitting something that a car would.
@matthewbeasley7765
@matthewbeasley7765 3 года назад
Central control at least has a gyrocompass so they can be told to steer a course. They are unable to see, and rely on a phone to direct them. Aft control is dependent on phone commands. Someone, somewhere has to direct them where to turn.
@spydude38
@spydude38 2 года назад
@@tc556guy On my ammo ship you would steer the ship from after steering by one of two methods. 1. The bridge used something known as a rudder angel indicator. Think of it as a remote device that had a device that looked like a clock face mounted just above the steering wheel. On it were to arrow hands. One was controlled by the bridge. The other was the actual rudder angle indicator. The helmsman on the bridge would move the indicator arrow to the location where he wanted you to steer the ship. You'd make the appropriate rudder change via the wheel and watch your rudder angle indicator arrow move until it matched what the bridge helmsman was indicating. 2. The bridge would provide you a gyro heading to steer. You had a gyrocompass in front of you and you would simply make the steering input into the wheel until you reached the desired heading.
@allanfifield8256
@allanfifield8256 3 года назад
Better sound on this one. Maybe it's just the acoustics of this particular space.
@BattleshipNewJersey
@BattleshipNewJersey 3 года назад
Its purely the acoustics of the space. Some parts of the ship are giant echo chambers, sometimes they aren't.
@jessekauffman3336
@jessekauffman3336 3 года назад
Oba near by to
@fahndraco526
@fahndraco526 3 года назад
they should of shown each Individual Steering Positione/Location onboard the New Jersey as he was mentioning each of them, at least that way his viewers would know what each of the locations that the New Jersey could be steered from... Maybe they should just film those locations now with a brief summary and edit them into this Video..
@BattleshipNewJersey
@BattleshipNewJersey 3 года назад
Heres our updated version from 2 years later: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OgdGWw7Jpyo.html
@flyingphobiahelp
@flyingphobiahelp 2 года назад
Er... not for the claustrophobic 😂😂😂😂
@Eng2BCapt
@Eng2BCapt 2 года назад
Cant tell you how many times I sent steering control to aft steering for "Training Purposes" on the mid shitter. Yeah I know it was Dick move especially since I told the Conning Officer that they requested it.
@NickAbbot.
@NickAbbot. 2 года назад
Restoration work? It should be recycled into something useful.
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