i always used apps like Win10 Tweaker and like this to get rid off all stupid stuff, turn off telemetry, ad things, including onedrive, I didn't know what it was and I never wanted to know after all, but every time I reinstalled my windows (by the way its been 2 years now since I've bought MacBook and never reinstalled the OS since then) this stinky app was always downloading along with the system... also, why do I even need to delete this system apps that can't be installed without using some 3rd party apps or using PowerShell risking to make some shit and never boot up again? i want to buy a laptop and get everything done, working and not asking me to subscribe, buy or even use for free some system app?
Not really. I mean, I sold my macbook pro 2017 early last year and it didn't have these issues and that's the point. The fact that a 2 year old laptop is already physically degrading to this point is crazy.
Sony Vaios are premium laptops. I still have two and they work awesomely. My first one is from 2006, and is now running Linux Mint because Windows 7 is out of service. My other Vaio will likely join it on Linux when Windows 10 ends. Both laptops have premium builds, and are usable to this day. But MacBooks are fantastic with their build quality.
The sticky laptop part is on Dell, yes. But the update issues, unwanted product placement, and random things breaking is very much a universal Windows experience. Coming from someone who has multiple PC brands at my office. If you like troubleshooting, then Windows FTW.
@@ryanw8664 I am convinced Mac/Apple users are much more tolerant and do not complain that much. I cannot believe for instance that they put up all those years with the butterfly keyboard and all these horrible Mac keyboards, or they accept to donate a kidney to get some more SSD capacity when they buy their laptops. This is why also the iCloud is so easily sold to them vs Onedrive. They also they have the benefit of a closed system. In Windows very often the multitude of apps can create problems, but most of what he was showing (ads, search bar, widgets) are nowhere to be found on my windows laptops.
When I see people complaining about issues they have with other OEMs, there's always people telling them to "buy a better laptop, like the Dell XPS" It never ends. Windows Fanboys keep blaming it on the OEMs, but every single Windows OEM has issues like this that Macs simply don't have. Even though the Dell XPS was almost unanimously called the best Windows laptop, it was riddled with issues from the start. I don't know a single person that ever bought a Dell XPS without experiencing any issues.
@ThomasVanhelden Sorry but Dell XPS is far from the best. Best line of Thinkpads, Elitebooks and lastly Dell Precisions are much better. But most people compare relatively cheaper consumer grade laptops to Macs. And Apple fanboys never complain, even if they had the worst keyboards for years in their Macbooks.
@@0w3nn Of course it is and the fact that you used a clarifier in your statement "Not *REALLY* true" indicates that you would agree to a degree that what I am saying is true.
To remove stickiness from old fake rubber products, use the CIF bathroom cleaner. It is the only cleaning product I tried that completely removes all the stickiness and leaves you with actually nice to use feel. It is bizarre that many high end electronics still use these kinds of materials.
iirc this fake rubbery smooth paint coating on electronics was popular all over the place years ago, cause, WHEN NEW, it feels and looks good, but it melts and becomes a sticky pile of shit after a while as far as i know, there isn't anything anymore that's still using this material for a while now
@@SToXC_. doesn’t seem the laptop Lee is talking about is that old. Also I had a Zoom H5 and a Wacom Cintique, both kind of high end products from around 2016 and they both became a gooey mess after a few years of very light use. But CIF fixed them both. Now they have a nice smooth finish. Not as luxurious as how they originally were. But very presentable.
Me too. This is such an horrible experience from Dell. Why on earth not buy simply a Surface? After, why Windows 10 in 2023? And really? He does not know what is OneDrive???
You realize Windows 11 has less than a 25% adoption rate right? I have Windows 11 but blind fanboy defending Microsoft because you hate Apple is a joke. Next year Microsoft may release Windows 12. Why? Because Windows 11 is Windows 10, and they want to build 12 on the back of Co-Pilot and actually new systems. Regardless there was no need to restart 40 times. He could also just uninstall One drive or mute notifications and he would never have had any of these problems. The real major difference is Microsoft's obsession with Ads. Mac OS is the best experience for creators but if you do more than that, for legacy applications or gaming you need Windows. @@jeanbaptistelabelle
@@jeanbaptistelabelle yeah idk. I think Apple has done a better job at Microsoft at building machines that end to end function better. Of course there is personal opinion and such. It’s a hotly debated thing. But Microsoft has done a better job at making money off of computers (ignoring the mobile phone world). So hey, maybe Microsoft is the smarter player!
@@Mishk Apple is definitely making more money on their hardware. À Mac does not support touch, does not morph in a tablet, does not support pen... And an iPad lacks a lot of software / app and has a super limiting OS and peripheral support. For me, arguably, Microsoft built with the Surface a MUCH better functioning machine end to end. So it seems it is clearly a matter of opinion. Honestly, an iPad alone or a Mac alone are super limiting. And even if carrying both everywhere, which is terrible, it still does not do all what a Surface can do (drawing a mask with the pen with Capture One Pro using the Surface as a tablet in the plane with limited space... Thousand of similar examples where you need the combination of hardware and software).
@@jeanbaptistelabelle I grew up in a MSFT household and I was die hard. As time went on all the companies I joined used only Mac (software engineering). So I converted. Honestly I feel like I’m limited when I go to windows interestingly. My frank take is, who cares, use whatever you like. The debates on what’s better are overblown. What’s better is what you like! And I think we get used to our setup and then it becomes hard to switch.
3:27 the reason the computer may not have booted after a while is if the CMOS battery had ran out-it keeps track of the time and some BIOS settings so if your computer ever runs out you won't need to configure the time again. However, the CMOS battery, like all other batteries, runs out after a while.
I was going to say the same thing. He's obviously not that good with computers, despite his occasional claims, otherwise he would have known that. Even in his Mac switching videos earlier he was in awe that their system booted up when opening the lid, when that can easily be set up from BIOS or the Power Settings on a PC or Windows laptop too.
@@yincognito Precisely. I don't get how people do videos like this without previously checking their claims on google. Plus, he is mixing hardware and software complaints just to conclude that windows sucks.
@@siklalkis Well, to be fair, he mixed things to reach a similar conclusion in his Mac videos too. At least he admits he might not know how to do this or that like a regular user would, but yeah, folks nowadays are more interested in making their opinion known than in being accurate, especially if the views get monetized...
😂 I laughed throughout this entire video because I can relate. I told my wife for yrs Mac is a ripoff. I bought the MacBook Pro max m2 in March and ended up selling my editing pc a month later. I’ll never go back. I ended up buying my wife a MacBook Air and I never have seen her use a computer as much as I have now. It just works.
to be fair, macs did use to be a massive ripoff back in the intel days, but since they switched to ARM, they have just easily become the best laptops on the market for 99% of people.
@@tomhunt5152I disagree. Macs were better value even in the Intel days. I spent more money on a Vaio but got more use out of a Macbook Pro, which incidentally still looks modern even today.
While I do agree that it just works, and see the multiple benefits of Apple and competitive advantage over Windows. I don't see "It is a great/better (depending on one's perspective) product" and "It's a rip off" as mutually exclusive statements in Apple's case.
Whether it’s macOS vs Windows or iOS vs Android, the most valid argument is “it just works” When I was a kid I loved going through every setting, using utilities to make things the way I want them, etc, so I get it…but that’s when computers were toys to me. Now they’re tools.
@@Teluric2 It’s been a little while since I worked in the support side of IT, but my combined experience is in the hundreds of thousands. These users have been about a 50/50 split. At scales like this, 10% fewer tickets saves millions of dollars. Both I and financial analysts run these numbers. So I’m curious where you’re getting your data…
@@user-wj8kv2rv4u Worldwide, yes, but in professional environments it’s often closer to 50/50. It leans more heavily towards Mac depending on how many engineers, developers, and creatives are employed at an organization.
I love MacOS but the "it just works" slogan is only the half of the story. Just try to plug a third party mouse or keyboard and you'll know. Apple knows how to annoy you when you trying to step out the line and not pay a cent for their overpriced, ergonomically nightmare piece of garbage peripherals.
This happened to me. I needed a laptop for my digital mixer for live gigs, and my wife insisted it needed to be a mac. So much so that she bought me one. I connected the mixer, and audio was working flawlessly in about 3 seconds. Literally! On a windows machine there are hours of installs, tweaks, and patches needed to make things work, and even then. Then came photography. Once I saw how color management was universal from app to app, and from screen to printer I was done with windows. I could not beleive how my prints matched my screen EVERY time. I thought it was magic. I never did get Windows color management to work well. I always had to toggle things on and off, and reload profiles. Even then, I'd view something on the desktop with completely different colors than photoshop, even though the settings were set the same. I still have 2 machines, but windows might as well be an xbox. It's a beast for playing games. Anything that needs to get done gets done on the mac, and I haven't even experienced Apple Silicon yet.
The digital mixer problem sounds like a problem the manufacturer made not implementing it right under Windows. Thats not where Windows is to blame ;)...
Oh no. That wasn’t my first rodeo. It was a FireWire mixer I wanted to run on a laptop in 2009. There were literally a handful that could do it reliably in real time, on stage. Went the same for the three desktop interface before that. Windows doesn’t have direct control of its hardware. It has to do it through driver layers. That introduces latency and the chance for hiccups. Mac OS doesn’t even use drivers. Core audio just gives the device priority and you fly. You can even use multiple, unlike audio interfaces at the same time. That’s almost magic coming from years of windows tweaks and special installs.
I feel you on the screen calibration. I’m not a mac user at all but calibrating a screen on PC has been so difficult and convoluted that I just vowed to never do it again. -P
@@FStoppersCan you elaborate where it is different? I always used X-Rite, start calibration tool, finished... and on a friends macbook the same. I don't see why this is any different?
I mean, you're comparing Windows 10 to the newer Mac OS. Windows 11 is a lot cleaner and simpler and they seem to be copying Mac OS a bit more. I'm not saying it's perfect, but as a user of both OS' they both have their pros and cons.
@@onestopviewfiles Personally I have windows 11 on work PC, laptop and home PC and haven't experienced this. There's always going to be bugs on both OS's. Maybe Windows has more? but I've personally never ran into anything that bad.
I went Mac a few years ago, after years of building my own PC’s. I think I’ve literally saved myself years of messing about. Mac just works, almost everything is seamless and integrated, no viruses and nasty crashes etc. I got my life back. The whole ecosystem (phone, iPad, watch etc.) just intergrate….. apps are well written and stable. But, also the hardware is solid and beautiful to look at, it lasts for years and has re-sell value. I’d never go back.
Happy for You. For example for me using the Apple ecosystem was one of the worst experiences ever. For example I bought first the Ipad. I connected him to my Windows Laptop and surprise. Ipad can't be seen as a regular hard drive. You had to install iTunes and from them give the permissions to some apps on the Ipad to be able to put anything on the Ipad drive. Why? Probably only to make people angry. I will stay with Windows. As I did for 25 years. Trying Apple products was a big mistake for me. You got everything You need in Windows laptop and for like half a price.
@@pault8630so you didn’t try apple ecosystem, but tried integrating windows with ios/ipados. I get that it sucks but literally the whole point of ecosystem is using at least two devices (in this case two apple devices)
@@compguild I know exactly what that means. When I said that I connected it to Windows laptop this does not mean that I did had macbook as well. But using macbook, ipad and iphone on daily basis made me annoyed. I was keep asking myself a question "Why this things cannot just work?" That is why I returned to Windows laptop. Which is working completely fine btw. All usb sticks working with no problems. Same android tablet. You have a usb stick formatted in NTFS? Macbook will not accept it fully. That is why I had constant headache with this "apple ecosystem". That is why I returned with relieve to Windows and android. I just came out with the idea that I do not have time for everyday fight with my system. If that suits others...well good for them. Just this things are not for me. Not for that price either.
Feels a bit overdramatic. Yes, setting up a Windows system from scratch takes a while. After that though, it just works. Every problem you're describing apart from the restarting issue is due to lack of proper setup. You can turn OneDrive notifications off, you can turn the newsfeed off, you can change the start menu to not show you any ads - or tiles, for that matter. Default windows is a pain, that's fair. However, the whole point of a Windows system over macOS is that everything about it is virtually 100% customisable, so you can set up your system to look and work exactly the way you want.
@@nazmulfahad3044 They should be default. However, MacOS should also be much more flexible and customizable. Both solutions have their pros and cons. If you want a system that just works straight out of the box and you don't need a lot of flexibility, go Mac. Personally, I don't mind some setup, I know what I'm doing, and I want my system to do what I want rather than what the manufacturer deems ideal, so I'm on Windows.
@@youknowwho9247 What a dumb response. macOS is more flexible and customizable especially given its Unix subsystem. You are acting like anyone wants or needs ads filled in their system. Its not an option on macOS just like how mcdonalds doesnt give you the option to add dirty syinges to your food.
@@hajjdawood That's just nonsense. MacOS is UNIX based, but it's a closed version of UNIX that's set in stone. My windows has zero ads and it's customized to look the way I want. Can't do that on MacOS. That's just a fact.
Been using both windows and macOS and all I can say is windows 11 has gotten so much better after updates and I see no problem with windows all those add can be disabled and it takes only 10 to 15 minutes to install a fresh windows on a pc …
I used to repair computers in a little repair shop. We did a lot of format and reinstalls due to systems being toasted by malware. People were so confused why they couldn't get their systems back same day. Sometimes it was due to customers in front of them in our workflow but most of the time it was because it took 4 hours to format and reinstall and properly download and update all the updates from windows. this was 2008 so we dealt with a lot of Windows XP and earlier OS's
@@vivek_vyou dont need install new macos because it doesnt suck like windows. If you you do install you can install it via network and you are done. In windows you have to find those stupid license numbers and scrambling to reinstall back softwares and find the stupid license numbers😂
Great video, exactly the same experience, Windows user and pc support person for 30+ years. A real pc fan boy. Switched to Mac just over a year ago due to software we develop on, and crap not ever going back to windows. I get the Apple ecosystem now and things just work.
It's simple. Apple has a draconian grip on the hardware that goes into the apple ecosystem. It works because it doesn't have to deal with 354543 54736254 different configurations that Windows have to deal with. As a Windows and PC support person for 30+ years, like you claim, you sure as hell ain't behaving like one.
owhh being mac and windows user...the claim seem half baked...even a linux user said macOS still mono tasking if compare to linux and windows that has better shortcut
@@apo.7898Its not about what doesn’t „just work“ on Windows, it’s more about the general experience. Windows sucks hard in many areas, especially the update experience is terrible. It won’t remember what windows were open when rebooting, updates are frequent and can take a really long time. Windows comes with an obnoxious amount of stupid bloatware. Many things just don’t work at all. HDR support in Windows STILL sucks. You often have to install dependencies manually when installing software. Menus are just changed or replaced with new menus that lack critical functionality.
This update description sounds like you used the years old Windows-Installation media, instead of getting the latest variant, which will already include most of the updates you now needed to install one by one (downloadable from MS). I would expect your experience would have been similar, when reinstalling your MacBook with some "High Sierra" install-media, which first needs to update itselfs to the latest macOS. The reboots on Windows are pretty much down to a minimum for me - not even the last yearly-update to 23H2 needed a reboot. Also have an XPS - luckily not sticky yet... but I know this effect from other "soft-plastic" surfaces... once you don't touch them for months - they suddenly start "bleeding out"... guess it has something to do with skin-oil keeping them fresh, but without it they start drying out and bleed out their softeners. If that's the case not the best choice from dell imho. But that is an XPS problem - not a Apple-solution or even Windows issue. My way older Asus notebook is full aluminum and looks great - the Lenovos we use at work the same.
"instead of getting the latest variant, which will already include most of the updates you now needed to install one by one (downloadable from MS). " Which just highlights another superior point of macOS, on any mac I can just hold Command + R to enter recovery mode and reinstall macOS and it will automatically pull the latest build instead of having to hack together a bootable USB drive like you do on windows.
@@hajjdawood "hack together a bootable USB drive" Yeah, and it's Apple's fault that they can't make a simple way to boot from USB. Internet Recovery is an absolute PITA with slower Wifi connections. Having dedicated USBs for Windows installations is so much faster in case I need them in the future.
@@TheFourthWinchester Horrible? You push a button on your keyboard and your done. vs finding a USB stick, formatting it, installing the latest from Microsoft, using tools to remove all the garbage MS adds, then dealing with UFEI/secure boot settings and praying the installer works good.
@@hajjdawoodI tried that over bad internet connection it was a night mare. I ended up leaving it on the Mac Os X. After the 4th failed attempt at over 50%
I disagree, after 25 years on Windows I've switched to Mac 2 years ago and troubleshooting is the same amount of effort as on Windows. You are just not used to the different problems and different approaches. Googling it and the solution is literally 3 clicks away every time. Just like on Windows.
Yeah, it is weird. He is not complaining about Windows but about Dell hardware and software. Maybe the reason why half of the student in Switzerland are using Surface and a significant other portion iPad Pro with pen.
The cranberries and other Microsoft loyalty begging services/applications are straight Microsoft, not Dell. The software updates are probably a mix, but he’s comparing with Apple where they do cumulative updates instead of stacked ones and where installation of most applications requires no reboot. At least 75% of the issues are from Microsoft, not Dell.
@@sh1pp no clue what is a "begging services". Microsoft is showing 2 things at install: XBox pass and OneDrive. If you have ever used an iPhone or MacOS, you would have realized that Apple pushes iCloud the same way. Plus you have ton of bloat ware on iOS for instance. So no, I do not see the difference. Sorry. Most of what he complains about is mostly Dell, not Windows. And do not tell me that MacOS major upgrade does not require a reboot.
@@jeanbaptistelabelle I am not re-watching the video to check, but from my memory he has 4-5 complaints specifically from MS (uncombined updates creates more updates on an out of date PC (Apple bundles out of date updates better reducing reboots when catching up), need to update after installing more applications than on Mac, injecting News and unwanted icons into the Start menu and search bar, frequency and style of One Note requests) and a few from Dell (some of the updates installed going to be for Dell drivers/software, probably linked IN, bad material choices). I am sure you know that most people don't buy MS devices as they historically did not have that option and now have very few, so this is the experience MS has designed by giving control of hardware support to their partnered vendors. I 100% agree that Apple's iCloud is comparable with OneDrive, but if you look at 5:08 you will see the variety of alerts he gets when opting out, and you don't get that on Apple. I think his issue was with the style of the nagging.
Wow man, 2 years passed? Hard to believe. When I was watching the first and the second Mac videos of yours, I was literally thinking about today while laughing your situation because I was having more or less the same complaints abound 10 years ago. Today I was laughing one more time because I was suffering for my wife, exactly the same about 2 years ago. Eventually I gave her my previous Mac and now no Microsoft products in our house (except company PCs). Big congratulations that you've acknowledged us without being an Apple Fan. This is a fine balance ;)
Your particular laptop seems to have bad drivers. I've always had issues with Mac OS taking 2 hours for a security update when it tells me it will take 30 mins, while Widows takes a few minutes now for each update. Most of the people commenting here have switched over to one platform and then find the old one bad, I use both Mac OS and Windows devices daily for the same tasks, video and graphic design, overall, windows has less annoying popups compared to mac os, provided you opt out of all the tracking and advertising stuff while setting up Windows for the first time, and your laptop costs at least 1000 USD so its not loaded with adware from the manufacturer
As a music producer, it blows my mind when I constantly see people on Reddit recommend Windows because "the specs are just as good if not better." Then they find out they have to install a separate audio driver, adjust settings for latency, move config files from one folder to another for better performance or something...switching to Mac might have added years back to my life in the form of saving time and reducing stress lol
My Dell XPS 13" suffered from this as well, after being put in storage for less than a year. Isopropyl alcohol and quite a bit of elbow grease can be used to remove the stickyness.
Got a great laugh out of the "weird cranberry icon" and the "cranberry harvest". 😂🤣😂. I am at my work apartment by myself this morning. Glad I was not home. I was laughing so loud I would have awakened my wife. LOL!!!
I can relate. It is pretty close to my experience, having a Dell XPS 15 and a Macbook Pro M2. My Dell is working fine (my previous XPS wasn't working fine - heavy thermal throttling), and not falling apart. But all of the updating, rebooting and pushing various offering when I just want to get stuff done. And that is before talking about battery life and performance
you get updates yes... I want them - in deed I phase out IT equipment not being supported with updates any more. But what am I doing different, that I only have to reboot on really signifcant updates - once or twice a year, where more or less half of the OS got exchanged or of course on UEFI-Updates? I can't remember, when a normal Windows update or driver needed a reboot last time - and I have three different Windows 11 Systems in daily use. Not even such low-level updates like GPU-driver need a reboot.
idk how y all have issues and all this blootshit my windows 10 laptop also Just works fine 😅 and i dont have all this reboot thing, i think you guys are making the issue bigger than it is, literally after the good first setup (that still takes time, as it should, on any device) everything is good to go and i can just forget about even having a "windows" or whatever, and just do what i need
@@SToXC_. Its like a hoarder, you are used to crap, once you go on a clean OS it will make sense. I was the biggest Windows fan for almost two decades buying almost every major Windows version on day 1. Windows 95, 98 second edition, XP, Vista, 8, 8.1, 10 being the last one I bought. When I worked at Google (as an IT support staff) it was the first time I was really exposed to macOS and ultimately was sold by the hardware build quality and how great the trackpad worked. Once I experienced how clean and uncluttered the OS was and how easy and clean updating was going back to windows was such a terrible experience.
Two HOURS????? Do you not have SSD on that? I installed windows 10 on a 10 years old pc a couple of weeks ago (HP Elitebook 840) and took like 1 hour top with office and everything.
With Windows PC's I build my own. With Laptops, I reformat them and do a fresh install of Windows with minimum telemetry. No bloatware or any other crap. I'm an Engineer. I've worked for multiple multi-national corporations. Every industry I've worked in, from trains, oil rigs, ships, medical and now laboratory equipment has always needed Windows. Mac OS is too locked down and hard to customise for a lot of companies. Setting up a Windows PC can be a pain if you're not used to it, but it's not difficult to switch off all the background crap and advertising. It's only a constant problem if you let it be that way.
Completely agree, and you don't have to be an IT specialist to get Windows working very nicely. I am agnostic. I have 2 windows desktops, one high-ish spec AMD and a 6 year old Intel. Both working well and the AMD very comfortable with 4K video editing. But. I also have an M1 macbook pro and an M2 pro Mac Mini for my professional video work. The Macbook is great. Fast with brilliant battery life. A great purchase. However, Im sorry, I hate the operating system, its archaic file navigation, lack of customisation, weird ways of doing something as simple as formatting a drive. Open a picture, and can you just hit an arrow key to go through the folder? No. etc, etc. It looks and feels like its from the 80`s, but faster. By the way, how can you have used windows exclusively till 2 years ago and not know what Onedrive is? Its part of windows and gives really easy cloud access on computers and mobiles, including my Apple machines, and it doesnt cost anything unless you want Terrabytes of storage.
Haha so relatable. First computer was a PC so grew up on DOS, Windows 95, 98 and XP. When I started studying graphic design in 2006, the classes all used iMacs and I absolutely hated them. Nothing made sense, I didn't get how the windows worked AT ALL and it was all so different. Two years later, I bought my first Macbook Pro and haven't looked back since.
I would say its user error. Ive had Dell XPS laptops for close to 8 years (13,15. and 17).None of these issues, i uninstalled all Dell bloatware and have no popups..at all. Have a XPS 13 9360 specced out and havnt used it for 2 years, boots no issues, no sticky or melted palm rests, hell even opened it up, repasted it and put a new battery in. Works like a charm. There is a dark art to windows computers, Macs are made to be simple as thats how the underlying OS program was first written. Ps, i also run a M2 Macbook air, and Ipad pro in side car plus iphone 15pro max. I knows apple products inside out.
My first MacOS machine was a 13" Intel MacBook Pro that I bought with air miles years ago (with the touch bar)... there are still some things that absolutely drive me bonkers on MacOS (such as changing backup location for iPhone) ... but as you indicated, so much stuff is just easier and not nearly as irritating as on Windows these days. Makes you wonder ... what kind of User Experience initiatives Microsoft and Apple have? They both seem to miss the mark in so many ways, although Apple less than Microsoft at least from an OS extent (in the way that I personally use the OS).
That was a great video! I have been a Mac user for some time and was forced to use a Windows Surface Pro computer and I feel you! The constant updates and random freezing were just a couple of the myriad of issues I encountered! I finally got fed up and would bring my personal Mac laptop in to work on!
Tell me how muxh hits you get when you google " macs freezes" Can you show a proof that your windows freezes or is just a virtual issue to bash windows on a computer that doesnt exist?
Switched to Mac mini early this year and love it. There was a bit of an initial learning curve/frustration but challenge accepted and overcome. I thought there was no way on board graphics would be as powerful as my Nvidia graphics card but OMG I was wrong. The little quiet unassuming Mac mini runs circles around my i7 32GB pc. The straw was a pc update that rendered my graphics card unusable until I did a window restore… what a mess, never again.
yeah, the M. GPUs are adequat, not great, but fast enough for most users, it's just a bit unfortunate that you can't do too much with the Apple GPUs besides the basic stuff
35+ career SW engineering with Windows and same for personal use. I am so on board with this. And same experience - got a M1 Mac and have not looked back. Wife got a high end Dell and it's garbage. Do I miss some things? Sure. Do I miss Windows file management? Yes. But everything else.. effin no way. Driver hell, Performance beyond 5 min hell, durability hell, patch hell, battery life hell... just no. No more. And now we're staring down the barrel of being migrated to Windows 365 and Windows OS in the Cloud. Not. Even. If and when Windows ever gets its act together some some track record, sure I can be swayed. But not now and not for awhile.
I wonder how good Windows on Arm will be once Snapdragon debuts their M-series beating chips, I'm on Mac OS and it does feel like Windows is more cluttered than it used to be when I used it several years ago
Driver hell? never had that. Buy quality Windows computers and you don't ever have driver problems :)... I literally administrate ~1000 computers at my customers and I never get driver problems, because I let my customers buy good computers :).
I hope this happens to me. I got a great deal on a MacBook M1 Max and I absolutely love the power. Same as you(and partly influenced by your vids) I have replaced my custom editing tower PC. But I am not yet used to the OS or the frustrations of file management on a Mac. I really hate trying to multi task across monitors. (The menu bars not sticking with apps is awful) I know I’ll get used to most of it - but even if I never like the OS - being able to have a high quality feeling machine that I can hook to a 2 4K monitors, my speakers, cards reader, extra SSDs, and internet with one cable then unplug that one cable and edit 4K videos at the brewery…. It’s worth it.
Yeah I thought the video was going to end differently… like he couldn’t afford to get his wife a refurbished MacBook or something instead of his leftover old ass pc? lol
He's not going to do that. His wife has the Arch fan base "Holy Grail" of a laptop that she is getting rid of. And he spent a video complaining about the Dell he was displaying. I highly doubt they would ever switch to Linux, unfortunately. Which is a shame but understandable.
The computers have a CMOS battery (like the same as a watch battery) on the motherboard. They expire after about 5 years. Then the BIOS reverts to factory settings. That is why you needed to change a BIOs settings for it to boot.
I remember watching your first video of the ‘first time you started using MacOS’. Two years later, sounds like you’re loving MacOS. I’m a MacOS users but I have to constantly update my parents Windows & Android devices. I feel your pain. Haha. Great video, thanks.
This! My dad is on Android I am literally helping him out every single week with updates & mishaps, to the point I'm now thinking of buying him a refurbished iPhone! I bet a lot of us share the same frustration.
I can only partially relate to this. Yes, I get every other day a call about Windows issues: "Why is Edge opening my PDFs?" etc... and also Android used to be an issue. However, since my parents moved to Google Pixel, with literally no bloat preinstalled, my life got much easier, without teaching them iOS.
@@ReginaldVandeVelde You seriously can't click the button that says "update"? Maybe once you use an iPhone, you will realize how annoying it is to deal with their stupid update pop-ups... especially when iOS 16 and 17 are buggy messes from my experience. Keeping my iPhone SE 2 on iOS 15 is an absolute nightmare, though it's better than ruining it with iOS 16 (which is what happened to my iPhone 8).
I use Macs and PC's, but the struggle is real for doing a new Windows install and then going through all the updates. Then downloading and installing any needed drivers from Dell. Just as a comparison, if you do a clean install on a Mac it will download the latest Mac OS version, which of course already has all the updates in it, and you're done. Plus Time Machine for backups since it will also restore your applications and settings (since it's all just file based).
That's exactly what I was thinking. Those 3.5" floppies suggest his OS version is a few generations old... that and the popup messages look like Windows XP. How long ago was that released?
Big thumbs up for this tip! Sometimes I have to reinstall Windows computers (for friends, relatives, etc). I always start with the download of the latest Windows version and then install that ISO from a USB drive. (I'm a Mac user for 2 years now btw)
I am mostly impressed by confidence of this RU-vidr with over 1M subscribers who never bothered to get the video reviewed or even just simply checking he is using the latest Windows version. Well, I guess that is how you can attract clicks. (I could create a video of using Windows XP and complain that things don't work. but what's the point?)
I have tried to use my mac as my daily driver but i'm struggling with all keyboard shortcuts. I'm so much faster on a PC. How has you transition to all new shortcuts on mac been?
Getting some kind of app switching going when using a mouse is a pain on macOS. The keyboard shortcuts are all practically built around two hands over a laptop keyboard type situation. Windows and Linux, being more desktop focused, have saner shortcuts on desktop.
These videos don't have much to do with Fstoppers or photography but by now those are my favourites. I just love to see Lee get really dramatic and upset about annoying stuff :D
I also began with Windows . . . I just ordered my second MacBook Air, the M3. My M1 is still extremely fast and capable, but it's 4 years old now and wanted to update. I'm getting the M3 with 16GB Memory, and 1TB SSD. I am a graphic designer and use Adobe software. If you have no experience with a Mac, you couldn't possibly understand why Mac users are completely in love with Apple!
ive been a windows user since windows 3.1, got a macbook air 15 a few months ago coz i needed something with a big screen, good battery life and thin and light. though i love the macbook hardware, i’ve really been struggling with the Mac OS since i’ve been so used to the windows ecosystem. any tips from windows to mac users out there?
@@xintophotography9848 Windows's update system is different. If you download the latest Windows installer from their website and install that ISO from a USB drive, you can avoid the painful part.
I feel like there were only two arguments here - the constant updates on a new PC and all the ad junk. Anyone with a tiny bit of computer knowledge can get rid of any of this stuff in 5 minutes and I think half the ads were Dell junk. So basically all the complaints were things that are only felt when reinstalling Windows and then after the first day there's no more problems. Sure, that's annoying, but not a good reason to say the experience of using the OS generally is better or worse than another.
About 10 years ago Fstoppers was one of the best photography channels that helped me learn photography with loads of photography videos. I love that now it’s just a platform for Lee to just moan about technology 🤣🤣👏🏻👏🏻
Now a mac os user for over 8 months, the thing that drove me out of windows too was the updates and constant troubleshooting and intrusive messages. You wake up in the morning with a deadline or something urgent to deal with and you run into "windows updating don't turn off your computer!". Apparently after every "UPDATE" something breaks and that important application that you really need runs into an error and you need to restart. Every single time I would have to reinstall drivers for bluetooth and wifi because they would randomly stop working. WHY? Then I switched to mac and I was surprised why I had to endure all that crap. Now my wifi and bluetooth are always on, I take out my wireless earbuds "connected", I put away my earbuds I turn on my bluetooth speaker "connected". I go to work my macbook automatically connects to wifi, I go home my macbook automatically to my home network. It works every single time, NO TROUBLESHOOTING! Best of all no distracting messages and ads that you have to say no to a million times.
@@Teluric2 Windows is broken and it's becoming worse by the day, obviously mac is not perfect but it's so much better. If you could use mac os for a week you wouldn't need to post a comment like that, you would see for yourself which is better.
@Teluric2 Windows is... bad. To say the least... The problem is they have a majority market share and with that not much incentive to optimize. Sure, it is much easier to use Windows over Mac (things like having multiple windows open, file formatting, and if your a gamer the fact you can work on your own PC.) But, overall it's just terrible. Personally I have hopped back over to Lonux after a 13 year hiatus. Turns out you don't have to be dependent on a 80% market share company. And before your wondering... no I don't have to use the command line. There are distros with a desktop environment. Sure it takes a tiny bit of tweaking but, after installing Wine I can't say I can tell that I am not using Windows... well besides not getting bombarded by Microsoft software. Mint is the personal version of Linux I use but, Kubuntu or Ubuntu could also be options. Do note you will need to download a distro off the web but some even have virtual machine for you to try them with! Oh and if anyone tells you to use Arch... don't. 😊
@@cherrypop1685 Thanx a lot for that recommendation, windows has actually gotten worse over the years and made the user experience horrible. I will try Linux when microsoft stop supporting windows 10 because at the moment my desktop can't meet windows 11 requirements for upgrade. Meanwhile I'm more than happy and quite comfortable on Mac, I've gotten used to it and I don't miss the constant interruptions and ads of windows. And oh yeah, and in windows things break all the time especially after updates, I certainly don't miss that.
I feel like Windows is a very different experience in the US? For me, there are no ads, no linkedin, no nothing. Maybe the EU has Microsoft regulated well enough, thanks I guess haha
I use Mac in my personal life and Windows for work. MacOS is far superior from a UX perspective. When Mac updates, once a month or so, it takes 5 minutes and it’s completely painless. Windows updates twice a week and constantly has to restart, or you lose performance. I hate how expensive everything Apple is, but owning Apple everything is completely stress free. I’m not going to say “it’s worth it”, but I want to.
I think a lot of us had the same experience. Like you, I had a Dell XPS15 9570-a $3500 pile of crap. Just google display issues with that model which was lauded as a premium laptop. 2 years into a Mac M1 Pro Max. Not going back.
Thnx Lee for your vids! 👍 I’m considering switching from an old Windows machine to a Mac. Your vids are really helpful. I’m a little frightened because I’ve got to learn so new stuff, but that can also be challenging and fun. Already familiar with an iPhone and iPad, but for work I’m having a Windows-laptop. Your vids helping me with choosing, although Apple also has got some drawbacks, such as the price… But, everything comes with a price 😉
I guess some day I should try mac again. But I still remember when I had to write software for and on a Mac and it was hell. I was constantly forced to do updates to everything - I get it the ecosystem. But I never liked it. Currently, there's no reason for me to switch to a Mac though. My Dell XPS still works and isn't yet sticky ;-)
This is more of a you problem because you're using a 10 year old laptop that's still getting updates from MS. I just got a new laptop and it works so well.
I use both. The main thing I miss when on the Mac is the ability to use the keyboard to switch between windows (not apps). (I've used Apple machines since the IIc)
@@tomcavanagh7671 Right, thanks. But I'd like to switch from this Chrome window to a working draft email in Outlook (as opposed to shifting over to Outlook first).
Sticky plastic on your Dell laptop? Microsoft's fault? Um, Ok ... I can only speak from my own experience having a 12 year old Windows laptop that I use twice a year and it is running Windows 11 - no problems - and still fast. My desktop - windows 11 - no issues. My only observation - I don't use Dell specifically because of the mysterious types of problems you encountered on your Dell. Note - I also have a Mac - and it runs fine... but I always prefer the Windows system for most tasks. Some people like Pasta - Some people like rice - Some people like both. Sometimes you get a bad bowl of pasta and sometimes you get a bad bowl of rice... doesn't make declare whichever as eternally bad - just one bad experience... llke you loved Windows for years and suddenly have one bad experience with a computer you fire up after a year of non-use and suddenly "everything about it sucks."
Windows in 2015 was better than Windows 11. Imagine removing dragging an app to the Taskbar or dragging a file to another app using only Taskbar previews... Did they bring it back? Yes. But that doesn't change a thing. Windows 7 was the last worthy-to-use Windows version. Windows 10 was mid. And I say this as someone who hated everything Apple released from 2013 to 2020.
Same here. I tried to set up Windows for my wife and gave up. It was unpredictable, having will of its own. We both use Linux now. Kids use Windows for gaming though.
Holy hell, that was entertaining. Been watching your videos about the switch to Mac, as i´m planning to do so myself. Glad you´re not regretting the decision, as it seems.
From a window's user perspective, you seriously got hit with the crappy "fresh" DELL windows install. They add so much bloatware it's insane and you should absolutely spend some time just going around and cleaning up. For laptops, I would definitely advise getting a macbook but a custom pc still reigns king for my use cases. A lot of these features that Microsoft for some reason bother adding to windows 10 are designed for windows 11 (even then I still turn them off since they are quite ugly to look at). The updates and apps however that require restarts are truly just an issue with the ancient x86 platform that AMD and Intel are still making hardware for.
Windows has nothing to do with the sticky plastic. Also you can just install Linux and you have no.problem with rebooting. The real downside of Apple is that can not update either the ram or ssd. I have to admit that the Apple goes a long time with the battery. Just on a side note Apple OS looks very similar to Linux
@@thefly373 i used both for years and macs have way less problems and if you run into a problem you cant fix they have customer service thats hard to beat;)
@@thefly373 I spend way more time troubleshooting my gaming PC that I only use occasionally than my daily driver MacBook Pro. Yes, Macs aren't immune to issues but I spend far, FAR more time fixing basic issues on Windows 11 that are non-issues on macOS.
@@JacquesCoetzerAU On Windows 11, there are occasional issues, but they are very rare. The biggest issue is updates to windows that get pushed out, but those are mostly improvements or security patches. In the last year on the 6 Windows PC's I have in my household, I spent almost NO time troubleshooting any issues. The problem with Windows is the vast array of hardware options that the OS needs to support. No doubt the wrong hardware and a poor driver can cause problems.
Just wanted to point out that "Cranberry' stuff is Dell's doing with its Windows Recovery installation. You might be able to do a proper fresh Windows install without using Dell's provided backup.
@@FStoppersreally bad you never used a Microsoft machine and relates Windows with what Dell made on their machine. Not really fair and give you a very wrong idea of what is normal Windows on a normal Microsoft Surface.
@@jeanbaptistelabelle Even without 3rd party bloatware, Microsoft's constant bombardment with popups/messages for their other services is the very reason why I'm also considering switching to MacOS. After each update there's always a "Finishing setting up the computer" message with either "Now" or "Remind me in 3 days" as the only options. Same with OneDrive, no matter how many times I've chosen "No Thanks", it still keeps popping up... I'd much rather pay a bit more upfront, than having to spend the next 5-10 years with Microsoft's ever increasingly aggressive sales tactics for their subscription services!
@@TecraX2 so when you mention "constant bombardment"... you are just speaking of OneDrive, right? ONE service? First, this is not correct. If you decide not to use OneDrive, it does not bother in the future (on Windows 11 so I have no clue what version are you referring to). Second, obviously, that is really absolutely silly to refuse to use Windows without any login because of all the features that you have using a Microsoft account : backup of documents, photo, possibility to use Office (you are not using Office? Just gaming with your computer... on a Mac ?), roaming of clipboard and all the things you are doing from one device to the others... Third, I really doubt that you are using an Apple device without Apple ID. Do you? Really? Is it even possible? I do not believe it one bit. And Apple constantly also remind you, not only to use iCloud but to pay for more as they are not offering 15Go but only 5. So basically, you complain about something that you accept willingly on Apple side. It makes absolutely no sense. But you know that already. You just need self reassurance.
You can do directly an upgrade to the up to date windows version and doesent need to isntall all updates manually. For example if the devide have Intel 8000 or newer you can upgrade directly to windows 11
I appreciate all the ads that MacOS doesn’t have but cleaning up windows 11 to not be annoying only takes 30 seconds. Out of the box, it can be annoying. And I am not so sure why you had so many updates. I just installed windows (local vs cloud reinstall) on a 3 year old MSI laptop. About 20 updates and rebooted 2-3 times. Now up to date. I think it took about 30 minutes total.
I tried MacOs for about a year and couldn’t stand it, sorry. I went back to Windows. Yes, there are some things I miss, like the design, the battery and the trackpad. Besides that, was a nightmare.
I switched to a MBP M1 about 2 years ago and have never looked back. I was reluctant to switch at first but get so frustrated when I try and use my Windows laptop!
Also left Windows for an M1 Mac… but still use Windows apps on my Mac because outside the US, University and business is all Microsoft 365 based in my country (Australia). OneDrive is just iCloud for Windows, your wife will likely use it. And Bing - you can turn off the junk news and advertising, but it’s useful because Bing is Chat-GPT 4 (Microsoft bought major shares in it) and Dalle E! And Copilot. And Edge is so much better on Mac’s than Safari and Chrome, and being Chromium based, you have all the same benefits as chrome. Just turn off the shit news and advertising in settings…
This is pretty much par for the course. The reason a lot of folks are adamant about recommending Macs to other folks is because they themselves know “where they come from”… 😅 FWIW, I use Linux, Windows, and macOS daily. I know the pros and cons of each system. I will vehemently recommend Macs, especially to people who use their computers to get work done! My “family support requests” have gone down to near 0 since I got everyone on Macs about 10-15y ago! 🙏
Several times my windows laptop would blue screen with mandatory updates while tethering during a photoshoot. Too many times I opened up that surface pro and was greeted with a blue screen for updates. I checked many times to make sure automatic updates was turned OFF. It didn't matter. That thing blue screen for hours. I loved that Surface Pro but I have not been back to windows since.
If you want to use Windows, debloat it. Otherwise, it'll be painful. Chris Titus has a good tool for this. I have found out that GNU/Linux will be fine for most people doing office tasks on a computer. It's cleaner, but things like Microsoft Office won't work out of the box. Good Luck. Some of the distros I recommend for new users are Fedora, Debian, Linux Mint, Pop OS
Windows has no bloatware. What are you removing out of the box and wy would you 'eed any specific program for it??? I guess you do not have a normal Windows machine from Microsoft. Right?
I switched to Apple in 2009. Took a week before I was sold. Zero bloatware, free OS updates, outstanding build quality. Bought their fastest 2017 iMac last year for $750 and it will last me another 4 years easy. I do still use Windows 7 on a VM for an old version of Quicken.
So relatable on how many things are inside Windows now that are sneaked into the background. I’ve seen these things on my PC too and it’s just distracting. That’s why I’m barely using my PC now for work and I’m relying even more on my MacBook. I still like PCs for gaming but I don’t think I’ll be using it for music production in a very long time.
I think this is a fairly accurate end-user experience. However if a tech gets the same machine though they would make very quick work of eliminating all the junk and clutter from Windows.
😡 Am I the only one who can not relate? The built quality is not related to the OS. I agree that Apple has a good build quality. However I am using Thinkpad T Series and HP Elitebooks for 15 years no and had no issues with the material. Especially the older models allow to upgrade and replace parts which is a big advantage for me. Installing updates on Windows really is no fun, but to be fair - Installing an old OS on a Mac will also force you to install updates. I make sure to download the latest Windows ISOs and it never takes me more than 30 min to format and install. Less then 10 min if I restore a backup. My company gave me a Macbook Pro with Core I9, 32GB Ram and 1TB SSD. I really hated this one. It was heavy, loud, and the battery was always empty. Working in a Windows domain was no fun. Apple Photo somehow looks like a joke to me. When I upload JPG and RAW at the same time it is one item and I need to export to get to the RAW, but if I import the JPG first and ten the RAW file, I cannot join it? However I would never say that all Macs are crappy. Funny that you mention that Microsoft wants you to pay for Onedrive. Thank God Apple provides their services and tools for free. There are different operating systems and different notebook models that fit different requirements. Recently I got a refurbished T470s for 200$, upgraded to 20GB Ram and installed Linux. I really like having network and USB A ports without using adapters, but obviously it is not brilliant for photo or video editing. However I still like your videos on Photography. Sounds like you know what you are talking about.
Ha Ha... best review ever. Windows world drove me so crazy I bailed for Linux several years ago. There are lot's of great clean and efficent distros out there so there is really no reason to put up with abuse from Microsoft or even Apple for that matter. Thanks for the chuckles.
Bruh Linux is not perfect either. Too much fragmentation with so many distros, still too dependent on the terminal for new users, no HDR support, Nvidia drivers are proprietary and buggy, you can easily break your Linux install when tinkering, the community can be elitist and toxic, a billion different package managers with different commands across different distros (apt, yum, pacman, dnf) etc. etc. etc.
@@JacquesCoetzerAUnot perfect, but as a mainly Windows user, I installed Linux Mint on my old laptop really easy. The interface is just like Windows, and all the drivers loaded with minimal effort. I was very impressed with how easy it was.
If it takes 2 hours to format and install windows 11 you're doing something wrong. I've done it hundred times and it's a 15 min process (not counting the updates + drivers etc etc... which does take forever).
At least your old windows laptop started. Mine stayed in “preparing…please wait” hell for 2 straight days. Literally 2 days. I never turned off the machine.
“Ladies and gentlemen… …we got ‘im.” 😆 Happy to see you’re still enjoying the M1 after a bumpy start. My Mac is my go-to tool for work and visual/audio projects, and my PC is my main gaming rig and for apps I don’t feel like getting setup on my Mac. Definitely can be weird going back and forth between the two worlds, but it’s been part of my workflow and hobby time since about 2010 at home and all my jobs since then. Different tools for different jobs, I suppose. But troubleshooting random stuff going on with my Windows desktops is definitely more annoying than troubleshooting stuff that might happen on my Mac, that’s for sure.
Man I have been watching your videos for ages and this is very satisfying to finally see you appreciate what Apple brings to the table. Been through the exact same cycle as you about 10 years ago. Apple stuff just works, which is all I care about.
Dynamically loading an app actually makes sense, instead of shopping all the value add features in a single image. I do agree there should be a “no hassle” version that is minimally configured and is missing all the crazy cloud features.
