'AFTER' is a Fanfiction Disaster and the Movie is Worse | Explained 

Hahahahaha well that is something I don't want to ever see the sun

This is the best motivation I've ever read

Love your videos as always, Amanda! Who knew that there's always big budget companies willing to fork out buckets of money to produce your mediocre Twilight/One Direction fanfiction! 🙄😉

I’ve read all the books and seen both movies I was pissing myself laughing the whole way through.. I loved watching this

Is this twilight?

I can't find confirmation that he has her blocked but I wouldn't be surprised

Just reply to this fucking comment. I dare you. I'm done with life and I'm done with people commenting. I could be literally in a very bad place mentally and physically at any minute now due to my current situation and I don't need fucking 12 year-olds asking the same questions over and over. Like sorry I knew people who were bullied by this guy when he was immature and I upset your feefees. I dislike him as I went to the school he went to before he was famous (didn't know him personally since I arrived just after he left but he was a twat), but honestly feel bad for him lmao. Fanfics like this are so creepy

I feel bad for him

@@AmandaTheJedi if he didn't, any management should do it for him, as it's a security risk.

It's hard to blame Harry for this, any sane person in his position would have done the same thing. 😂

... you mean good omens?

@@lisasowa1195 that's more like a bromance. A very old bromance.

@@haiqal5333 you have not heard any interviews with Neil Gaiman have you lol

@@lisasowa1195 if you take the whole "stop the end of the world and find the antichrist" out Good Omens is like... An actually good,actually funny,actually sweet romcom

@@lisasowa1195 Holy crap I was gonna comment this. This entire trend of "bad boy and goody two-shoes are polar opposites but love each other" reminds me so much of Good Omens, and how Good Omens did it right while so many other romances get it spectacularly wrong. Like I just want to see some good dinner dates and romantic strolls through the park over thousands of years, dammit.

my god, I've never realized how predatory it was!I assumed harry was an adult by the time she wrote this atrocity 😣😣😣😣

Wait, he was 17 when the book was written?? That's so gross🤢

holy shit i was watching a one direction video and a comment said, direct quote “Ok but in my mind Zayn is registered as a mean, closed off person or like in a gang but I see him being so sweet and loving gentle person can I just say i blame the Wattpad story’s” i immediately took a screenshot because i had never seen such a direct impact of those shitty stories. in a gang????? the harmful stereotypes in these stories are toxic and are poisoning young girls’ brains. it’s also incredibly unfair to put that onto those guys just trying to live their lives. this type of fiction is straight up dangerous because it is mostly read and written by young girls who are romanticizing creepy, abusive behavior from men and they take it seriously.

vik!!!

Thats why you ignore pop music and go prog 😇. That way only nerds and music majors know who you are

THIS Everyone having the hots for 365 days just because Massimo is hot creeped me out, like the actor is hot yes. But if appearance is the only reason you will validate abuse and stuff like that... you are a very unhealthily toxic person. Maybe even the type to say "I would mind if they raped/kidnapped/abused me" just because the character is portrayed as a hot person. I am so sorry for your love life

@@headintheclouds7905 If it's a fantasy, it's fine, because no one is getting hurt. I doubt there are women who are so clueless that they'd not hear how stupid they sound if they were unironically saying "I'd only want to be raped if he was hot". And before you say "Oh well fantasies can be taken too far", any fantasy can be taken too far. This is a shitty story that shouldn't be aimed at the demographic that it is, but it's the job of the people around these impressionable girls to teach them why it's bad. Bad art should be called out for what it is, but you can't censor shitty art, otherwise my self-indulgent smut fic would be on the chopping block.

@@talynhastime9343 fair enough.

But this is how lot of women feel tho

could u not say l*me its a slur

Yes, thank you for addressing this issue. I don't understand WHY when a guy is blatantly abusive jerk, the narrative expects our lead to fall for him?! I think NOT! 🙄

@@trinaq Propapply all my female friends LOVE these movies and i was in both of them and OMG how can you Root for them beeing together they have zero chemistry AND they are both really not good for each other

@@trinaq They think THIS is the type of bad boy that's irresistible.

Sadly money won out.

*T H A N K Y O U*

Can't wait for Romanticising Abuse: The Musical and it's eventual tv spin off

@@glitterberserker1029 and the visual novel or the fanfic of after in a vampire Au that will be called "zenith" and will be published as a book and later as a movie

and what is it with these movies, it's one after another like a conveyor abuse=love, wth?!

Dei Because in the sad, sad reality we live in abusive bad boys sell apparently. You can thank the 13 year old fangirls who call them their “soft smol edge bois UwU” I felt physically sick just writing that.

@@Cheetahgirl_Studios :D yeah, I felt the cringe giving be chills better than any scary movie. man, it's just sad to think how messed up that is and how some of those 13 year old girls might end up in the abusive relationships because of how movies romanticize crap like this or at least skew their view on reality of such behaviour. thanks for the laugh, tho, didin't think that "UwU" part would be only a cherry on this mountain of ice cream sentence

The author is "abuse is so cute, let's make a love story out of it" trash. Truly disgusting. I feel bad for all the celebrities who have fanfictions written about them.

Look at literally any HS fanfic and he is god awful. Its actually kinda disturbing because they take someone who is well liked and respected and turn him into a psychotic and abusive bad boy......smh

@@MrsSoloRen this is so weird! I'm such a fangirl for chris evans but when I fantasize I put him as the person he shows himself to be. Like reading and being into philosophy and spiritualism bc that' what I know about him. I thought other ppl would do the same as it makes these daydreams a slight bit more "realistic". I would never write this stuff down though bc it can't feel great to read about yourself...

Wasn't this written when Harry was 17, and during that time there were two adult women who had like a fling with him. And instead of calling out the women who preyed on a minor they called Harry a "playboy" and a "womanizer" _despite being a minor_

@@katlunascoven7932 ikr I read fanfictions ya know, but like people wrote these stories as OCs but using the celebrities and real people the name and face. Its really strange 😕. They completely change these people's personalities and morals simply to write a toxic romance. Smh

And then she runs into him later when she is successful and he is still a loser.

I actually read a manhwa (korean comic) about something like this. The girl's ex continued to stalk her even after breaking up and dressed up as a girl to get closer to her. They got into this very toxic relationship, but the girl eventually realized how messed up he was and left him.

@@laniedraws6274 omg... OMG... WHY???? I FORGOT ALL ABOUT THAT MANHWA AND NOW YOU REMIND ME OF IT.

@@laniedraws6274 manhua name pls?

@@tahuraharmain Secret Alliance :)))

Then there is the grown adult version of that concept that basically is like Fifty Shades of Grey.

@offended YA stands for young adult. It is usually refers to the genre of fiction that is usually read by preteens and teenagers.

Usually foreign...

My mom once complained I didn’t read enough “girl books” (it’s been a decade since she said this and I STILL DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS). Anyway, I said pretty much what you said. And added “extra points if the love interest is some sort of paranormal creature”.

Hey that’s my life currently

Don’t bring Lady Gaga into this piece of trash

Saminul Haque _yeah,leave The Mother monster outta this,bub!_

@@456MrPeople You and me could write a bad, cringey, god awful romance~ 🎶

@@sharonspears-mandeville2369 The only Mother Monster to me is Mothra. Leave Mothra out of this.

Unholy Trinity

Red flag number 1

@@xx___x absolutely

I bet if they saw A Streetcar Named Desire when it first came out they would have rooted for Marlon Brando’s character 😬

@@talynhastime9343 Look at the comments section under any clips from the movie. They still do.

People find that a turn off? I start having crushes whenever people are nice to me 😅

Hardin is even more boring so what the fuck is she talking about.

exactly

Honestly can't listen ( I thought it was annoying)

I think they forced him to adjust his regular English accent to the one in the movie ,I've heard him speak and the difference can be heard

@@mbasakosani8386 It's a stupid choice lol

@@mbasakosani8386 yeah, like im an american but i absolutely can't do other accents from my own country. if i try to do a texan accent, for example, i sound like an absolute idiot. so i feel like they assumed he didn't need accent training because he's british disregarding the fact that not everyone from a single country knows how to do all the accents from their country??

@@anniedangerface It's a bad choice on the director/producers side, but his performance is bad either way.

Omg that is so embarrasing💀

I actually applaud Harry for blocking Todd. This only proves his sanity! Plus, even real Brits would cringe at her obviously put on accent! 🤦🏻‍♀️

I have a feeling that he does actually try to make his accent more pronounced. I know I can with my Australian accent. But that's giving the man props.

Oh my gosh yes his accent is so bad and he’s English? In the interviews he dose it’s fine but in the movie it’s so bad

Also he filed restraining orders against her

I dont know man, its pretend. Its shit but its pretend shit.

@@jhart1127 real people aren't pretend

@@jhart1127 it's defamation but Harry styles can handle it tbh

That's why it's called fan fiction you could literally write about whatever you want there's even a fan fiction where one direction are serial killers and they can't up a girl And of course we know that's not true because it's fiction

Same here most of them aren't creepy like this abomination

I mean its true for anything. Look at the music scene

Ikr. Like as a Wattpad reader I don't read this stuff it's just toxic and weird. I can think of a bunch more fanfics that are way more deserving to be a movie than after.

Most good fanfiction actually works within the fandom it was written for, so attempting to make it into an actual book means making a lot of copyright holders okay with a lot of things very quickly. What we have here is a fanfiction so far removed from it’s initial story that all you need is a name swap and no one is the wiser. I will admit I’m also just not a fan of any Modern AU fanfics anyways so this take is a little biased.

@@PineappleLiar I agree, some of the best fanfics I've read have been deeply rooted in the work. It's also worth considering that, by their nature, most fanfictions, even modern AUs, assume you have some knowledge of the characters, their relationships, and their pasts beforehand, so there might be difficulty getting people not in the fandom to relate the character(s), even if names are changed and stuff

lol true, at least hentai eventually gets to it after only a few minutes of "plot"

And somehow less cringy

Nah. There's actually good fanfic out there that go into breaking fictional characters down to their bare bones. In the author's perspective, of course. Fanfic isn't all sexual and written by teens. You get mystery and adventure ones, too. It's really diverse, and even fully fledged writers partake; it's a fun exercise. However, I don't know about real people fanfics. They kinda seem too cringy to try. That, and I can't imagine how they'd feel about it.🙈

@@hp4843 Most H is also absolutely unremarkable, somewhere between "Cute date with crush gone sexual" and "Bored housewife and the landlord". If H and fanfiction have one thing in common than it's the fact that the weird and disturbing stuff just gets far more attention.

@Alias Anybody Sadly, you're right. But it's only because, generally, people would rather focus on the bad parts of an entity than the good. It's more entertaining to watch someone pick apart a god awful piece of teenage... uh... literature?😂 I love Amanda, but I kinda wish one day maybe she'd enlighten her viewers on the good parts of fan creations instead of the bad. I feel really bad for writers who put their heart and soul into something they loved and have it mocked because of a stereotype. There's countless stories of relationships dealing with abuse -- parental abuse and neglect -- and characters finding themselves after the whole process, and honestly, when i was a teenager, it made me feel less alone. People only write to propagate a message or escape their reality. I would rather focus on why girls this young are romantising such abusive relationships, instead of mocking them. Speaks volumes of how their actual lives must be. 😕 Never mind that, I only wish one day, people would focus on some good aspects of how broad the fanfiction world is. Of really, any piece of media. Just like there's good and bad to be found in every corner of the internet.

I didn't even know that there was fanfiction of real people. That seems a little weird.

Well there are so many fan fiction on BTS too... some are nice and many are messed up worse than this...

I once saw a post where someone actually tried to defend their collection of explicit real people fanfic and it was all so disturbing I just couldn't even bring myself to reply, because there is no helping those people.

Don't read it either, even to make fun of it. You're giving exposure to these sickos, & they don't need it

@@invisibleink1145 Even when the real people call out the crazy RP shipping the shippers throw tantrums and say that the people being uncomfortable is "ruining their fun."

THIS! 👏🏽 Exactly, which is just sad honestly

!!!!!

That sentence is a big freakin red flag!!

Because People like fantasies. Just like men "want" sex all the time but don't want "whores".

Sometimes girls want to have fun and actually go places the only thing her know what ever did was hang out at her house and watch movies all the time that's the one thing they did all thrilled a relationship and it could get boring

Damn, I'm proud of you! Finally an actual sane, mentally strong and smart person. This is rare! Bravo, it's really sad that most people don't even know this thing is problematic and even more sad that they never follow their gut feeling! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

You’re so strong, I feel so proud right now🥺

Good for you sweetie. Always listen to your gut. And warning signs

You did the right thing for yourself! I'm really happy for you. If it was in a book, you would have been so happy and proud to hear you were starting to "fix him"...

Jesus fucking christ that guy sounds like a lot. I'm glad you got out of that situation before it got dangerous for you.

I feel like there’s a lot of internalized misogyny in this author. Clearly she thinks that this kind of toxic relationship is the peak of romance, that’s why she inserts herself into it. I don’t even think she realizes how bad this kind of portrayal is. I hope she understand people’s criticism and has some introspection.

@@supercalime I doubt it. If she was allegedly 24 when she wrote this, there might not be any hope, especially now that it's a movie and book series.

@@supercalime I think that's a problem for quite a lot of female authors. Even in MM/BL fiction, the amount of female authors who write 99% of their few female characters as horrible stereotypes is huge. What I worry about is the fact that this kind of writing is mostly rewarded by the industry: Grey, 365 days, the kissing booth, this trash. It feels like every "novel adaptation" is pushing the same problematic examples.

harry styles apparently blocked anna todd on twitter

@@whatthehellisthis 👏AS👏HE👏SHOULD👏

Noah deserves better

Yeah shes just treating him like shit and we're supposed to root for her for no real reason

I felt so bad for him really 😭. In most of these movies the good guy is portrayed as boring/plain and gets treated badly then dumped for no reason, smh

Yeah Noah really did not deserve all the shit she put him through

@@strawberryfox8819 yeah like all he did was get mad at her once

Lol that sounds perfect 🤣

I had a friend who you'd me that she loved this movie when it came out because it reminded her of the relationship at the time. Thats all you have to know to know it was a HELLA toxic relationship

What bothers me is that it's a common mindset for people to think that in stories it's best to have bad boys = interesting and good boys = boring and not interesting. All i'm like "they are only like that is because you people are bad writers!".

@@isaacgray2909 It's weird, because it's authors assuming that seeing something traumatic In your life turns you into an edgy immature and unstable fuckboi lol. As if countless perfectly normal and nice people haven't been exposed to / experienced anything fucked up in their lives.

Honestly kinda same about the boys. Tessa is not exactly the ideal woman to say the least and she doesn't even have to be, but I wish she had a real personality and not a notlikeothergirlsanility.

Sadly no. I have an acquaintance who loves the films and books.

Straight couples amirite

Lol I have to pitch my senior project in a few months and I’m highkey doing it on your first point

@@peonylarkspur645 Please do! Good luck!

@@piagebot2943 SO right!

@@EmmaCreatively thank you! I'll do my best haha

What is worse is...it is so blatantly disgusted as a "romantic hallmark card" or some shit like that....like, by the time all this abuse has desensitized you, this just seems like another one-liner that is supposed to be "lol so cute and emo rawr qwq" and it makes my stomach churn, because this may be the scariest line in the entire movie. It gets to Christian-Ana lengths of toxicity and co-dependency. And with that, the audience will not bat an eye nor question it, they might even use it in one of their relationships. Maybe put it on a poster on the wall, the scariest part: no one will notice, it will only manifest throughout the relationship(s). *let that sink in*

Hardens Character: I'm complex because I say "Fuck" in almost every sentence I speak

Don't disrespect Bella like that 😭 She started having some character in Breaking Dawn (book)

@@doubleknot8598 too little too late

like unsalted, undercooked pasta

@@alleycat2297 exactly

👌🏻feel the same way

After I Bleached My Brain Of This Absolute Car Wreck Of A “Romance” Book That Perpetuates the Ever Cursed Notion That Abusive Relationships Are Sexy And Cool When In Reality These Kinds Of Fanfics Make Me Want To Puke My Guts Out And Delete Wattpad From Existence.

@@Cheetahgirl_Studios you ok there bud?.....

Ooohhh same

That reference is from a youtuber called Alex Meyers when he reviewed that shitty film 😂

He's probably still faking an accent - England has a lot of accents just like any other country (more than most actually) and the director probably just assumed he'd be fine because, y'know, he's British and can do a "British" (vaguely cockney) accent.

🚗🍦.

People say he was doing a american accent but no it was british

Yeahh its the fakest real accent I ever heard. He's from the London area so his accent should sound a lot like that. Can't believe he's actually Ralf Finnes nephew (why he got to play young voldermort)

@@randomwerewolf1099 yeah, his accent his more road because he grew up in estates but America only requires one British accent - a rendition of our queen Elizabeth

@Mary Anne KO That doesn't make it any less gross and creepy 😭

he was still a minor 😀

@Mary Anne KO I’m 22 and I would never sleep with a 17 yo bc they are children.

@Mary Anne KO it’s still an adult writing about a minor. We weren’t talking abt the relationship ages

wow, I didn't know that part. They published this and made it into a movie knowing this? smh

This wasn't even Netflix this got a full theatrical release produced with Wattpad's entertainment sector

im not surprised you thought this was a netflix project like it's bad enough to be one

you lost, babygurl?

@@bffr825 nooooo

@@AmandaTheJedi wait so they have an entertainment department for their entertainment

Much like the reality of dating a toxic person! There are these weird doldrums in the cycle of abuse where I just of idled feeling too worn out and gray and apathetic to end it (or thinking I 'couldn't' end it for financial or quarantine reasons) but also just thinking to myself what a tiresome, childish tool he could be and often was. It's kind of like 2020. You wouldn't think something so terrible could also be so relentlessly dull and annoying.

Fr, and the fact that my sister, aunt and cousin all loved this film. I wanted to explain how their relationship was toxic, but they'd probably just shut me off and say I'm being annoying. It hurts to see people I know romanticize such a toxic relationship.

it was the screaming at each other at parties in front of all people for me to realize i'm a grown woman watching a teenager movie. it's literally a teenager movie. in my opinion this should be a high school movie

And she was 24 when she wrote that stuff. Not exactly first impression thoughts

THANK YOU. I love Pride & Prejudice and I was so angry at how this movie misrepresented it.

Wait he's really British so that's not a fake accent

@@AmandaTheJedi and yet he manages to sound like they held gun to his head and told him to imitate the queen. a true talent.

@@AmandaTheJedi "your British accent is horrible" "but... I am British..." Its like if RDJ went to an Iron Man/Tony Stark best costume competition and lost

I don't think the actor portraying Hardin is attractive at all. He looks like he weighs 80 pounds soaking wet xD

@@AmandaTheJedi yeah, he played little Voldemort in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince..Also, he‘s Ralph Fiennes‘ nephew as far as I know (:

i think she wrote it in 2013 so he would have been 19

Although she wrote this at 24 She was married at 18 so she is probably very naive

@@mirandabutton2794 24 and 19 not that bad, is not like she dating him (like she can...LOL) think all those older man with younger women who are 20 years age gap..........

@@matchatneko4956 I wasn’t talking about the age gap. I was talking about how she got married at 18 which just seems to me like she is naive

It's still fucking gross, but age of consent in the UK is 16 so it's not as stigmatised. Not sure where the authors from though.

Nah it's pretty accurate

@@cleo958 Darcy also won Elizabeth over by doing the right thing wrt Wickham and Lydia, saving the Bennett family honor. He showed his good character. In a modern romance aimed at impressionable teen girls, I'll bet he would have won her over by somehow showing his all-consuming passion for her.

I only watched the movie and Mr Darcy is not a bad guy. He just did that what is best for his friend and He is not toxic at all I just hate the movies who compare the main couple to Elizabeth and Darcy....why the f would they do that!!!!!

@drithishetty8049 the mini series is leagues better than the movie. You also just get like 3x the content due to the format the story is presented this way. I'd also argue that the actors were better, not that Kira Knightly is a bad actress, but compare her to Colin Firth who played Darcy in the mimi series and its a whole different thing. I watched the show shortly after making this post 2 years ago lol, and yah, the classic still holds up, you should really look into it. And yah, it was really the same thing as the movie but told better, he found Jane alright, but not good enough for his best friend, and he had distaste for basically the whole Bennett family save for Elizabeth due to their immaturity (especially their mother iirc). Iirc correctly as well, he saw that Jane made his best friend happy, and decided on his own to encourage him to go back to Jane after this, though Elizabeth turning him down HARD did have a hand in that, it likely wouldn't have made a man like Darcy change as a person. Though it was also a thing that one of the best friends (you can tell I forget his name lol) sisters wanted him to marry Darcys sister. So that likely played a slight role, though Darcy himself seemed really indifferent to that idea from what I could tell lol. It also doesn't help that in the movie, you could never buy that Kira Knightly as Elizabeth was less attractive than Jane. In the series and the story, it's strongly shown that Jane is the best of all the girls in looks and is second only to Elzabeth in intellect, who is implied to be as smart as she is because she's not quite as attractive as Jane. I forger if the other 3 girls were ever portrayed as more attractive, I just remember than being thirsty lol, and that very thing coming off as immature to Darcy and even their Mother.

Thanks for the recommendation…I will watch it

Bad boy doesn't play by society's rules but usually means well and doesn't have to be a dick. Abusive dickhead deserves to rot in hell.

Awww, she's gonna have a bad time

If she likes them as fiction, it's probably just what gets her going. If she likes that kinda thing seriously in real life, that's not good.

@@c.c.l.9139 I hope she means as fiction. But when she says things like: "i am looking for a guy just like Christian Grey", i get a lil concerned

Ask her if she'd still think it's cute if the love interests looked like Danny Devito.

@@c.c.l.9139 Yeah. When teens can read and watch this kind of stuff and understand that it's not healthy, I'm fine. But when I hear, "I want someone like that," or, "He's so good to her!" or, "Love is love (even with an abusive jerk)," or, "She's fixing him, that's so cute!" it worries me. Unfortunately, some teens don't seem to have yet made that distinction.

@Studio Autio no!!!! I meant it's even worse hahahahah

@@mddxs Tessa the girl that had the chance to have a decent and nice boyfriend but still choose the abuser

Evil Brother No offence, but Tessa is blind as hell. I would’ve picked Trevor over Hardin in a heartbeat.

Evil Brother she can choose between Hardin and no Hardin. But just because someone’s better on paper doesn’t mean you’ll be attracted to him or develop feelings for him. So she can’t just pick or choose another guy.

There's a.... *barfs* second one?........

Thank you for saying this when Lizzie rejected mr Darcy he went back no persuasion no stalking no death threat no threatening her about money when he proposed the second he clearly says he expects nothing one word for her will shut this forever no pressure no nothing he just asked her about her feelings and that's why we adore mr Darcy I'm surprised by this absolute gal of that rotten man child talking about him bitch you wish you're half the man mr Darcy had been

Just saying, your English is spectacular

Also came here to say your English is excellent - I wouldn't have known you weren't a native speaker without you saying so, I just assumed any errors were typos.

The Hollywooddudes Heard- us when we asked for bookbased movies. They chose the wrong books though

So many good books yet that is what they chose😔

@@Ashley-Lopez it sells, just look at twilight or the other stupid endless YA romance novels

I post copypastas on it

Why can't they just go on A03 and pluck litterally any story from there? Most I've read are better than anything on Wattpad.

Because most of the fans of this type of stuff are either teen girls who haven't been in relationships or middle aged women who've been in really bad relationships and think this is how they normally go because of that.

Because dating the mysterious dark troubled guy and bringing him on the good side and showing him what real love is, is like the ultimate teen fantasy x) I can't blame them, I've been there too...

And because this people have no idea that healthy relationships can be interesting too

@@misscrackwood The ones who keep it as a fantasy are OK. But the ones who get with awful real life guys and trying to change them sometimes get themselves killed.

@@Xehanort10 I know and it's terrible, and movies and books like this certainly doesn't help T__T as a parent of two daughters I hope I can teach them to see the difference between a healthy relationship and a bad one, and that fantasy and fiction are what they are.

Can we agree to just speak plainly and call it what it is, namely a blatant self-insert to serve as a vessel for poorly understood and/or sexually repressed feelings? I can understand that these stories resonate with teens (god I feel old writing that) to a certain extent, but they deserve better stories with characters that aren't flat as a board and revolving around a single trope. To each their own I guess, but writing is a craft and when the author's skill is lacking, it shows.

Same. People have unique personalities (or at least, most people do)! As a writer, it's criminal to omit that from your characters.

@@47ratsinahoodie I know! As a writer, people are so interesting. Some of my favorite characters were characters inspired by the people I’ve met.

@@thomaskole9881 Yes absolutely. I’m tired of people writing from trope and stereotypes when perfectly interesting people and with character quirks are RIGHT THERE.

Legit I hate it!

Probably because it's so rare . Nothing wrong with it . To obsess over it, yes. But for it to be important to someone , no. Not everyone wants to date whores, what can I say

@@Ariel_ButNotTheMermaid Do you call men whores for having sex before marriage?

@@Ariel_ButNotTheMermaid the misogyny in this reply is outstanding

@@Ariel_ButNotTheMermaid so, you think you're better than other women or what? Who are you to be calling them whores? You must be so alone and miserable. Small advice to not be such a sad douche anymore: it's your personality that keeps people away from you.

Sex does not make a woman dirty. Having "virginity", which is entirely a social construct, does not make a woman pure.

Also worth pointing out is when people romanticize Wuthering Heights saying it is "a love story" when Cathy and Heathcliff's relationship is ultra problematic and they are both horrible people.

@@isabelabraga9111 As an English lit graduate I love Wuthering Heights but I agree that their relationship was chaotic and toxic af. I still remember Heathcliff saying “Catherine Earnshaw, may you not rest as long as I am living”

frrr when they were like "Lizzy shouldve told Darcy to fuck off" like... She literally did?? Did you not READ the book before criticizing it??

Got a full theatrical release though lol

It's not Netflix...

So you got a Harry Styles fanfic for me?

@@maelstrom57 , Yes sir l do

BuT Who CaReS ItS JuSt A FanTaSy And A KinK!1!1!1

There's actually five books, because Anna Todd also wrote "Before", which is After from Hardin and the other side characer's points of view. She then move on to a sequel about Tessa's best friend, Landon, and I think there are like three books in that series.

@@Astrocam88 i hate this timeline

@@dee_is_tired This is the darkest time-line

Those sound like the titles for the Friday movie sequels.

In German, After means anus. Works too, I guess. So no matter how far After lies behind, shit's still shit :D

Honestly if a book series has those titles I’d think it was way funnier than the bland sad boi faire

In my country the movies are called after passion and after truth

‚After‘ ‚After after‘ ‚After the day after that‘ ‚After the day after that day‘

Or Phanthom of the Opera, like Fifty Shades

@@falconeshield Don't disrespect my boy Erik and compare him to whatever the FUCK Hardin is

That trend has to stop

Rps?

@@allisonavery7273 Real Person Slash- basically fanfics about shipping real people. And I say, do whatever you want with fictional characters, but as soon as you start doing that to real people, it becomes creepy and invasive.

@@Dreigonix yeah, I can see it

It's RPF: Real Person Fiction. Slash doesn't mean shipping, it specifically means *gay* shipping. & RPF isn't about gay couples only, unfortunately

My take is a bit more friendly - that it's fine to write RPF if everyone being written about consents to the fic type that is being written. If everyone is into it, then hey - power to them and hope they have fun. And in fact, I did talk to someone who wrote for a very niche fandom where a group of people actually did give permission for wholesome smut fics (they did not consent to abusive trash, naturally, and wanted to read stuff before it went out). Didn't think it'd actually happen, but cool for them. But that's like crazy rare - almost always, it's done without permission or consent of any kind, and that's where the creepy line is crossed and I feel bad for the people involved.

Underrated comment! Bloody brilliant 👏 😄

No!! Come back!!

Take me with you!

HA!

No, wait, don't go..

This! plus she could've just been on her period and leaked during the night

@@fuzzyapple Honestly, that would've been a better plottwist. Hardin and Tessa plotting to sell the story to mess with his friends or smth

@@ajlahasanbasic I would read a story about two friends or lovers colluding together to win a bet imposed by a group of losers like the ones in After.

Right! as a woman, you should know that not everyone is born with a hymen, or an intact hymen that hasn't been broken down by other non-sexual physical activities or a hymen that just stretches and doesn't bleed at all. Its really sad that in the 21st century people still believe the old myth of someone bleeding when they lose their virginity.

i heard that the author of the book defended that??? like she tried to justify it

*COUGH* *COUGH* golden crowns stained with ink *COUGH* *COUGH*

SOMETHING TELLING BETWEEN THEN AND NOW TOO

I’m a fic writer too and I 100% agree with you. Fanfic about real people is just creepy.

same. i wrote supernatural fanfic as a teenager and it creeped me out when people would write jared/jensen or misha/jensen fics. like... they are real people, and it's creepy to write them into situations they would never want to be involved in. if you're really a "fan" of theirs, you wouldn't do that. stick to the fictional characters...

Ditto. I’ve always found RPF to be so... _gross?_ I mean, if you’re into that kind of thing, then more power to you. But that’s why I hated Septiplier and every other Real Person x Real Person ship. It kinda feels like you’re dehumanising the people in the ship and twisting their real life personalities to what YOU want it to be. I’m not directly addressing you btw: whenever I use the term “you” I’m referring to the people who ship real people. I’ve always found it shady on a moral level. It’s just never sat right with me.

I wrote a fanfic about meeting a content creator. We started talking because a pigeon shat on their hat. We had a good conversation and i gave them some wet wipes. Then we walked away and never spoke or thought about each other again. It obviously wasn't a great fanfic, but sometimes the desire for a conversation with another human in these trying times gets a bit strong.

Also I like to point out how fucked up that shit is. Like when they have that groping, choking and sexual shit RIGHT after they just meet these people like he creepy shit. I get that it's books but I can't help but think "this shit wouldn't be cute irl"

This is completely unrelated but can someone please explain this concept to the parts of the Miraculous fandom that think Marinette and Adrien should get together right now? Mari is literally at stalker levels of obsessive and Adrien has some issues regarding his father. They need to fix themselves before they can be together. A relationship is not something someone should use to step on the other person to get themselves to a better place (and it would be even worse if the person getting stepped on allows and is okay with it).

@@47ratsinahoodie Oh my God! Yes, thank you!! Marinette is an obsessed, creepy stalker. Even going as far as to steal Adrien's phone. And Adrien isn't innocent either. As Chat Noir, he is soooooo self entitled to his "Lady", getting all sulky when she rejects him, continuing to persue her when she makes it clear she isn't interested, and literally says "We're made for each other and you just can't see it". How creepy is that coming from someone who keeps flirting with you despite your discomfort? And then Chat Blanc dares to depict a relationship between the two built on the fact Adrien found out she was Ladybug, and specifically for that, became an absolute power duo of a relationship with no problems? When in reality they aren't even friends, just loving idols and barely being able to have a productive conversation?! What? If Miraculous doesn't fix this in Season 4, I'm out.

@@bessieburnet9816 Fr and with Kagami and Luka, they're decent people. Not much of a personality for Luka but I'm not opposed to Adrigami and Lukanette (well, Mari still has to work on herself for him, too). Miraculous has a lot to fix and I don't doubt Astruc is the root of most of the problems considering Mari is his prized character and it's the world that needs to change.

@ichaelis fr. I didn’t want to give away too much for people who haven’t read/finished six of crows but I’m assume since you read the first book that you know which characters my comment was referring to

@@47ratsinahoodie This is why I prefer MariChat. Need them to chill the fuck out with their obsessions with each other in their alternate forms and actually get to know each other and develop a healthy and mature relationship first. Considering Marinette doesn’t like Cat Noir and Chat’s neutral to her, it’d make way more sense imo. I doubt it’ll happen tho cause the writers have lowkey gone off the rails-

What's your wattpad account? And what do you write?

Ikr

I know! Not ALL of us write this kind of thing! Some of us just like writing more in-depth versions of our favourite piece of media and having fun with the characters by putting them into interesting situations as a “what if” scenario!

I know I've read good fanfics.

This is why I don’t write real life people! I stick to fictional characters. Besides, my adventure Mortal Kombat fanfic is much more interesting than this

My sister was watching The Kissing Booth (After and TKB are basically carbon copies of one another) and she was ENJOYING IT and said she didn't understand why people had issues with the relationship like WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL. WATTPAD IS POISONING TEENS WITH THIS BULLSHIT CONTENT.

After we collided was just unnecessary

not only that, but it is about a REAL PERSON and portrays him in that way. Very gross.

You know what really pissed me off? “He’s nice to me.” “So you’re saying he’s boring.” No. Just no. This reminds me of my mother. She used to tell me that moms who were nice to their kids and treated them like human beings with emotions and value were bad moms and weren’t raising their kids right. Like no.

@@cordeliajackson8615 That line pissed me off, too.

Because it’s not filmed at WCU. It’s filmed in Georgia on a prop set

Wait...I thought there wasn't such a place as Washington Central University, because I grew up in Washington...I figured she swapped up the name with Central Washington University to create a fictional uni in some vague place in the PNW.

lol when I head that uni name I was like "no! they didn't!" and yeah, central looks nothing like that.

That's young Voldy actually lol

.....After Ever happy... eye 👁👄👁

they managed to get dylan sprouse to be in the sequel💀

@@lisasowa1195 It might be the worst title for a movie ever lol

Hahahah xd after ever happy? Are you serious? Lmao what kind of grammar is that 😂

So write a fanfic based on this fanfic. It's fanfics all the way down from this point.

I heard she was 24...

Anna was 24 writing a fan fiction about a 19 yr, kinda weird if you ask me.

Not always, I have freshman friends who had a sophomore roommate. It’s pretty uncommon tho

Freshman don't ways necessarily have freshman roommates. When I was a freshman my roommate was a sophomore

That's definitely not something that can be generalized. Maybe in your college everyone was level-headed, and that's great, but the majority of college kids I know only cared about passing during finals month. The majority of the semester, partying, romance and expanding your horizon with all sorts of new experiences was the focus. Which...honestly, I see no problem with? It's your first time away from home, where you get to make your own life decisions, where you get to try "adult" stuff like drinking and whatnot. Get it out of your system, get to know yourself and your preferences and limits. That's also part of growing up, and it's in a place that is still a kind of protected environment compared to being a full-time working adult where any mistake can ruin your entire existence.

Yes. Yes,it is. *_And they said that Styles' a cinnamon roll (as the youngin's say it,right?),as so I've heard-I've heard,right?_*

It's not triggering, stop misusing actual medical terms

Meanwhile stuff like Anne with an E only gets 4 seasons

Yeah, RPF or real person fanfic is pretty gross and generally cringey. Toxic fans eat it up and shit it out without regard for how it might affect the featured celebrity irl. It stems from the entitled attitude many people develop in fan spaces, which is an unfortunate aspect of fandom culture.

I think it was even a thing with the Beatles which is 👀👀?

poor harry

100,000x % agree

It's actually only based on his appearance she said I took Harry styles and created a whole new character so unlike him that's why it's called fanfiction

That would have honestly been one million times more interesting than the whole entire movie.

Also the Tri City area has its own college, they really didn’t need to set it in Pullman

That is so petty

I was debating with this one person about how Wattpad shouldn't be the goal for authors. It's a decent platform to refine your skills (that is, if people actually get to read your book after shoveling through all the bland After carbon copies) but Wattpad publishing isn't much of an achievement. They claimed that Wattpad is as good a publisher as any and I laughed _so hard._

Honestly it’s strange how many people use Wattpad as a serious writing platform. I just use it to practice my writing skills/get constructive criticism and feedback. Aka it’s not serious, it’s practice

I honestly use wattpad only to publish my fic in spanish and sort of a backup, but I cannot be bothered to even think of reading anything it has to offer lol and since is a videogame fanfic, i have to rely on the fans' opinions, they have my fic in a high rank, but considering the rest of stories available... not sure if I should be proud or not :p

As a fanfic writer (not on wattpad actually, on ao3) I do it for fun. And for practice and feedback. Like, it’s fanfic, nobody’s taking it seriously.

Tbh I think the main problem is that they frame this picture of themselves around fanfictions with changes names. People don’t mainly read ffs for the plot. They do it for the ships. It’s weird that (not just) Wattpad tries to translate fanfictions into real books.

Not based on Harry it's based on his appearance only she said I took his appearance and created a whole new character so unlike him that's what fan fiction is all about there are so many one direction fan fictions where 1 direction are literally opposite of themselves there is 1 where there are serial killers

😭😭 it took me off guard 😂

No because I cackled

Isn't it fantastic? :D

Senpai Jecho _Stacy pilgrim strikes again!_

At least Scott was supposed to be an asshole and his relationship with knives is called out and doesn't work out in either movie or comic.

A bit late but the prequel is called “Before” 😂

It's not a prequel 😂 before movies are amazing

@@chinmayeejoshi2692 The After prequel book is called 'Before'

Oh sorry I did not know that😅