"AFTERMATH" - THE 1980 & 1981 MR. OLYMPIA DISASTERS  

I would love to see that or even more beautiful, to be the one who does it, a dream but a good one.

*aspiring

He was a gay meth head. No thanks.

Many echo your words!! Well written!!

@@johnsambo9379 Bodybuilders are an odd lot, including Arnold. Weirdnegger did homosexual favors for the gay elites back in the day. Did drugs as well. He also raped, groped, performed pedophilia, and had affairs with his ex wife with different women and had a child born out of wedlock and tried to lie about it for years

We all know he should have been Mr Olympia in both 1979 and 1980. If you could have a man be Mr Olypmia in the state of Arnold 80, Franco 81 and Chris Dickerson 82. He easily should have been a two time Mr Olympia. The only man in history to get a perfect score of 300 TWICE.

Mike Mentzer was in better condition than when he was awarded the perfect 300 score, but still not good enough to finish in front of Arnold in the 80 Olympia... A compete joke!!

Its very easy to beat Mentzer and the rest when you have the promoter and almost all the judges in your pocket, hence why Bill Pearl stepped down as head judge for that contest as he was heard saying "I don't want anything do with this fiasco" If you just do some journalistic digging you'll eventually find out the real reason why Arnold in 8 weeks decided to suddenly train and enter that show. Here's a great article to read starkcenter.org/igh/igh-v11/igh-v11-n1/igh1101p04.pdf Also I will say in certain shots and photo's Arnold does look quite impressive in 1980 compared to the rest but nothing compared to the Arnold of 1974. Cheers @@johnking5759

@@johnking5759 are you serious? No way for Arnold to finish at least in front of Mike, listen carefully to all contest's witnesses who say even top 5 was very difficult for him that day.

The 1980 Arnold was no where close to the Arnold who was Olympia in 1975 ... Arnold had a 2 month window training for the 1980 .. that is nowhere close to how he develops compared to a 5 to 6 months preparation.So no way should have he even been in the top 3 but no way should he had won 1980 Mr.Olympia.At best Arnold was 80% of his former self..even he admitted it.

Who's john little?

​@@carnivorous_veganfriend of Mike and the guy that runs this channel

Co-author of many of Mentzer's books.

@@CurtisMoe which many? theres only one

@@marko-182 there's two rn on amazon

So is dorian winning 1994 with a torn bicep and gh isulin gut

Gyno, and imbalanced (i.e., one good) legs. Mike, and Boyer Coe had to have been laughing their asses off in 1981.

It ain't a sport it's a beauty contest

Its not a sport, its not about skill and practice, its about genetics and drugs

It was bad. But todays guys can be pregnant, soft, have obvious site enhancement, no calves required, no posing ability required, okay to have huge proportion issues. It's all bad.

The only MAN

Gets worse..ive compared franco to every competitor in that contest...frankly ive got him next to dead last... nobody loves Franco more than me but facts hurt..he got destroyed that night.. it's an insult to suggest he beat any of them

I have always looked up to Arnold and Franco, but 1980 and 1981 were two of the biggest screw jobs in the era of the 1980's. To me, Platz was first, Padilla was second, these two were in the best shape of their lives. I hate the fact that Mentzer went into a downward spiral after 1980. If only he could see how much his training philosophy is celebrated today.

Thanks, Edgar.

Mike was soooo intelligent!

​@@user-mi5op4si9b Very selfish and arrogant at the time. I hope he has become a better human being since.

You're wrong...Mike Menzer always maintained that he wouldn't train anyone who didn't want to do anabolics because ìts the only way. He was right.

@@themalaailaanaa1347 You’re wrong

@@themalaailaanaa1347 Source? Mentzer has trained hundreds of natural, completely average people and gotten results based on HIT, so I'd love to see your source on where he apparently refused to train anyone who didn't want to roid.

Yeah no Arnold winning was also diabolical. His legs looked like mine for gods sake.

When you have 4 of the judges as friends. What do you thinks gonna happen?

His left leg was the most atrophied there. As Mike said Franco had injured himself sometime before. Comparing his legs from '75 to 81 they're miles apart in quality.

Yes. The IFBB judge Dennis Stallard from. Wales Google him.

Dennis Stallard from Wales.

That is a very good breakdown of actual events. It tells me, Arnold will never help you. He will befriend you , only to mask his Agenda. In the end ,you will find a knife in your back. But when you turn around there is nobody there. However, thru dilligent Forensic analysis. It will reveal Arnold's fingerprints on the Blade in your back. Thank you @nathanherling9836

"Arnold bought off the judges in 1980, no way he is even top 7 and he should have been disqualified for refusing to do all the mandatory poses. Mentzer and Coe were the best physiques on stage that day. Also Franco had bitch tits and a deformed leg and no way he legit beats Padilla and Platz in 1981." "Sir this is a Starbucks. Are you going to order or not?"

@@TheMadMonk9 You’re very welcome. Thanks for your post.

It's very interesting. The outcome of that particular contest runned by Graham had a lot to do the with the placings of the competitors.

Thanks for your post. I’m glad you enjoyed it.

​@@user-mi5op4si9bI don't think it would have changed anything at that point

Exactly, even Padilla doesn't get it, when its rigged you don't just come back and win next year like he suggested, its obvious that they were all afraid of Arnold and weider, all except Mike that is

I don't know who would even wanted to see a bunch of roided out, ugly masses of flesh posing on a stage - aesthetics has completely been tossed aside. No thanks.

More like they could ride his hype...the Weider Protein Ad already had him dressed as Conan sitting on a throne

You are very welcome

They made shyt metal gym equipment.

Yeah I think Bill was in on the sham also

What principals and philosophy?

@@darrenburke9630 Joe weider had his self proclaimed "weider principles" that he himself had designed so he stated to help bodybuilders with their training in order to make better progress in the gym and become better. In his magazines during the 80's when bodybuilders were interviewed a common question asked was what weider principles do you use in the gym. The fact is joe weider had stole all these principles from Vince Gironda a retired competing bodybuilder but was still training many clients at his gym in Hollywood. Vince was very well known for his knowledge of how to train and to take a physique and see what needed to be done. The hollywood movie industry would send Vince actors all the time that needed to get in shape for a movie or a television role ie sylvester stallone, clint eastwood, cher and many others, also many top bodybuilders trained at Vinces Gym as it was called, Larry Scott the first mr olympia, Mohamed Makkawy.(type at youtube mohamed makkawy posing routine 1984 mr olympia) Anyway Vince had stated that when he put his clients on certain programs joe weider would scoff at his routines but soon joe realized these programs were actually working and working rather well. So joe stole them and proclaimed them as his own. Vince some years later had said "it's funny joe weider has enough money to buy and sell me a thousands times over and yet he's terrified of me and avoids me at all cost, he stole my training principles and ideas and yet he still gets them wrong". Vince was very well known for not taking any shit from anyone infact in the original rocky movies Sylvestor Stallone based his boxing coach opon Vince.

@@darrenburke9630 The 'trainer of champions' horseshit.

Those years were totally Arnold. His encyclopedia of bodybuilding is coming out, and you have Mike Mentzer obviously dominant preaching the opposite philosophy of training for success. Tom Platz as well changing, the game. In true nazi form, Arnold had to crush his opposition (Mentzer particularly) in order to maintain his dictatorship....Plain and simple. It seems obvious in hindsight. The actions after the crimes shed light on the motivation.

Thank you.

Yup! In Pumping Iron, it is not a coincidence that Arnold is shown posing at Terminal Island prison. A certain future promoter of an IFBB contest was doing time and takin the hit for someone else.

@@dreambigdoc EXACTLY!!! You understand! Mike Mentzer and everyone else knew these things back then and they COULDN'T say anything, so that was also part of the disappointment everyone competing felt...

Never heard of that, but lost all respect for screw-your-freedom-Arnold a few years ago

Do you know who the FBI agent was that busted the promoter was?

@@lateralus2199 No.

AI maybe?

This is hard to believe because Tom has always said that Mike has been always good and helpful guy to him.

Weeeeell he really didn't "half" to win

No, not nihilism, which would be the abdication of moral principles, and the belief that life is meaningless. If anything, he became staunchly moral as a result of his study of ethics and philosophy.

Exactly

Danny Padilla looked great too in 81

@@leonardgarcia5320 yes 👍

It was after the 1981 Olympia that he decided he would not compete again. He was still considering competing until he saw what happened in Columbus, Ohio.

Good! some logic and commonsense.

You can hear some of the booing in the GMV video of the competition. The booing was edited out in the documentary, entitled “The Comeback.” In fact, they cut Arnold’s victory speech short in the documentary because of the booing. I don’t know that the photos were altered in Joe Weider’s publications, but I do know from the late Peter McGough, who was the editor in chief for the magazine, that all of the comparison photos of Arnold with the other bodybuilders disappeared from the Weider archives.

I also heard that Arnold purchased all the 80 Olympia footages from CBS sports who had filmed the contest 😳

Exactly, Chris Dickerson was never Olympia material