Against the Odds: Snowlemnity (Games) 

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"Through the breach... Aaaaaaaand the Aeonest of Tornest of Emrakuls"

The Griselest of Brands.

"what do I have to do with my life so I can sound that happy???" Play Magic for a living.

Seth is the best

Well, that escalated quickly

Thanks!

I call it his "troll laugh."

*your*. And yes, it's very good.

He can't use coco properly if he doesn't do that unless he puts gazillion 3drops and put even more 1 mana ramp creatures but I do agree it does feel weird.

he is not intentind to curve out but rather play underpriced threats that punch way above their weight. So him needing to get a solemnity down before is not that relevant when he can gat a couple of them down for a fraction of their real worth.

With 1cmc mana dorks, it isn't a problem that often

The problem is that your creatures are still not that much bigger than, say, Tarmogoyf and die to Push all the same.

Elijah Kleinman someone should really assemble a list of Seth's greatest boards

I wonder if it was Seth or Adriano that messed this up.

But the rack is damage not loss of life.

I know, shrieking affliction is not and that's what this comment was about.

I think Solemnity kept us from putting a counter on the creature to pay for the age counter though (since Sheltering Ancient's cumulative upkeep is put a +1/+1 counter on a creature).

Nope, the cost of the upkeep is to put counters on the creature, so if you can't pay the cost (put a counter on a creature) you have to sac it. For example if we just had a Sheltering Ancient out (no Solemnity) and our opponent just had a Tatterkite (can't have counters placed on it), at our upkeep we put an age counter on Ancient and then pay the cost for each age counter. The cost is to put a +1/+1 counter on an opponent's creature, but Tatterkite doesn't allow that so we can't actually pay the cost and have to sac Ancient. Solemnity essentially makes every creature into a Tatterkite, it makes it so Ancient cannot see any creature that it can put counters on, so we have no choice but to sac it.

Ah. hadn't considered that part.

Arthur Kimes he was going for the "my combo wins if we both get online" plan

Yes!! This tech is necessary. In fact, it would be even better because you could keep things with counters already on them, without paying the cumulative upkeep

Also, troll Delver players

Not just Delver players, also some decks like Ad Nauseam and other ones with Suspend cards, (like Burn, I guess?) as well as 8-rack and probably something else I'm forgetting.

Also Liliana ultimate can split them up.

Yeah, but it would really take time.

How would Ensnaring Bridge have won them the game? By hoping that Seth milled out first?

BrewBrewBrewTheDeck i don't think it would have won any games because of hierarch

Noble hierarch says seth still wins

Its not that much damage

THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE I want to see seth knifing a bucket. Or saw a boat

2 years later but solemnity doesn't affect planeswalkers

ErroneousClique idyllic tutor is way too expensive, not worth taking turn 3 off especially against aggressive decks where sheltering ancient is pretty decent.

It also double as our sideboard enchantments.

Yes Zur is in there but he is a 4--drop which needs to attack - meaning no enchantment tutor until turn 5 at the earliest without ramp. I would run 3 Idyllic Tutors and maybe 1 Zur as he cant even double as a backup wincon due to 1 power (and dies to path and push with revolt on). That way you are more consistently getting combo pieces out on board by turn 4 latest. I still dont see the downside to this... As far as Idyllic being to slow, it is 3 CMC. It is much faster than Zur and cheaper as well. And compared to our wealth of 2 and 3 CMC creatures that we want solemnity out for them to be effective and stay in play with their upkeep costs, all our enchantments are slow. IMO Idyllic is the lesser of two evils (when compared to Zur which is cute but much slower and suffers from summoning sickness the turn it is played).

ErroneousClique zur doesn't just turor enchantments he puts them on the battlefield with a repeatable trigger and is a relevant 4 toughness body. What would you cut for 3 idyllic tutors?

ErroneousClique zur doesn't just turor enchantments he puts them on the battlefield with a repeatable trigger and is a relevant 4 toughness body. What would you cut for 3 idyllic tutors?

Coolboy 7961 banned in modern :(

*set

*block

Scott Poole pretty sure he makes the decks himself.

Scott Poole I mean solemnity, when it was spoiled, had a lot of potential, it's not a coincidence that a seasoned magic player like Seth come up with combo decks with it. It all about knowing which cards are out there.

True but the chances of solemnity being out as long as it has and 2 people coming up with builds so similar within 4 days of each other is odd. Plus this the 4th against the odds decks that's been almost identical to one I'm working on. Could just be the fact that both me and Seth are in love with brewing but meh. Not mad about it or anything, in fact would be pretty cool if decks I came up with ended up on a channel I watch all the time. Just so crazy to me its happened as many times as it has. In fact shortly after I saw his UW bogles video I got so excited because I had always wanted a good shell to play Arcanum Wings in and that seemed perfect. I built it and went out playtesting then 3 days later out comes hidden treasures featuring none other then Arcanum Wings. Getting kinda crazy.

I'd say Phyrexian Unlife would be the most obvious but I do see what you're saying. I only find it odd that once again within a few days of coming up with a brew it ended up here. At 1st I took it on coincidence but at this point I'm convinced someone who plays xmage as much as me are liking them and sending them his way.

It's possible, only thing that has me questioning is the frequency at which something I come up with ends up here. At the end of the day it's pretty neat one way or the other. Either myself and someone I am a fan of think similarly enough that we end up building the same decks all the time or brews I come up with are interesting enough that they end up on a big channel. I'm just glad one of my favorite and the best performing brew I've come up with hasn't spread giving me a nice secret weapon to bring to my LGS one day.

the n is only silent when it ends in mn, solemnity is the correct pronunciation.

oren barzilai I agree with that but having Zur is really good. Like he is extra copies of both. The green isn’t really needed though, it just helps get the combo out on turn 3 if you draw well, but you should win there anyways

oren barzilai they don't call it against the odds for nothing

It's a Christmas Deck!

oren barzilai he's already played a boring version with the same lock, he's spicing things up by showcasing the synergy of solemnity with cumulative upkeep creatures, if you want something boring go watch that other video

Naw, I see it. Green for ramp because otherwise the combo is too slow, then you might as well as well splash Black for Zur (he does just about everything you need in this deck). It's not like he got stuck on colors very often.

Vacated Drake - solemnity stop counters and Cumulative Upkeeps use Age Counters

Dixon Tiru so a cumulative upkeep creature would only sack it self if u don't have soleminity and if u chose not to pay? Thanks for the help btw I assumed it worked like that but u can never be sure.

Cumulative upkeep requires you to put an age counter on the permanent at the beginning of your upkeep, and then pay the cost listed on the card for each age counter on it. (example: Cumulative upkeep {2}: pay {2} for each age counter on it or sacrifice it. First turn after you play it pay {2}, second turn after you play it pay {4} etc.) With solemnity in play age counters cannot be placed on the card so the card would essential force you to pay zero times the cost because the number of age counters would always be zero

Nathan Barrett sweet thanks for the help.

SALT MUCH SALT

I order from Card Kingdom all the time, specifically because they're always ridiculously fast with their shipping and I always get them in a couple days so I don't know what in the world you're talking about...