Age of Empires 4 Winter Patch - MASSIVE Nerfs Incoming! 

Are the Byzantine changes a buff or a nerf to the civilization?

Going from every 3 minutes to every 2 minutes isn't an early game buff for Japaen because instead of getting 2 Yorishiro on completion, you only get 1. They are even 6 minutes later when you used to get 2 more after 6 minutes, now you get 3 more after 6 minutes but start with 1 less.

As an hre / ootd main , my disapointment is unmeasuereble and my day is ruind😢

I'm honestly shocked that they nerfed the Byzantines instead of buffing them and kept Jean D'Ark pretty much untouched.

WTF they nerf the shit out of Japanese which have been pretty balanced but barely touch Joan D'arc ok cool.

Been mostly playing Ayyubids since release and I actually like the trade wing nerfs. It makes the villagers from the economic wing more viable. Bazaar just felt mandatory before (even if it was fun).

all i am thinking when i read these patch notes is "LOOK HOW THEY MASSACRED MY BOY!!!!😭😭😭"

Do you feel that JD has gotten off super light here?

Byzantines win rate 40 percent, after nerf the worst Civ now they will have a 30 percent win rate

Springalds and culverins going down to 10 ranged armor is an important buff to OotD, now the Bodkin Bolts tech actually means something and you might be able to protect your siege units by sniping springalds with gilded crossbows, especially if they're on stone walls. Springalds would have to approach within gilded crossbow range to hit trebs placed more than 2 tiles behind a wall (or 4 with Roller Shutter Triggers).

I think while nerfing Japan they should’ve took into account where their ranged is already hampered they should’ve focused on balancing their military priority in general

I can’t believe they nerfed Byzantines. Absolutely ridiculous. Cataphracts were already too expensive for what you get, and triumph was kinda all we had 😢

Japanese nerfs are ridicoulus, while JD remains untouched, just like france, which was always op but never nerfed

Unnecessary nerfs to Byz… Limiting the number of Yorishiro for Japanese is lame, we should be able to move them to different buildings in that case. Joan needs way more nerfs

I mainly play with my friend against the hardest a.i, pretty sad that Triumph, trample and Cataphract got nerfed, it was a lot of fun rolling a bunch of Cataphracts causing chaos in the enemy's base.

40% win rate civ? better nerf

They missed juicy's monks not being able to pick up relics sometimes

Don’t know. … nerf Byzantines? Wtf why. The nerfs for JD and Ayubi are good. But why again nerf trade?

That OotD M@R buff is pretty significant. They have a lot of HP..

Ah yes. Nerf the civs doing poorly. A grand strategy. WTF guys, no HRE buffs, order of the dragon buff is pretty worthless... Byzantine NERFS???? Yet the only civ to truly get nerfed is ayyubid... what the hell are they smoking?