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Age of Mythology Retold - BEWARE The Dwarven Armory 

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@asdt560
@asdt560 2 месяца назад
Forest fire should definitely be used tactically instead of just dropping it on whatever wood the villagers are taking. A lot of walling is done to woodlines so opening a gap is probably the best way to use it most of the time.
@AvengerNk
@AvengerNk 2 месяца назад
I was about to write the same thing. Everyone uses it wrong so it feels dissapointing of course. Like dropping a Carnivora next to a Greek hero unit..
@TomorrowWeLive
@TomorrowWeLive Месяц назад
I respect him for hanging on till the very end. So much more interesting than someone just resigning ten minutes in. I live those old 2007 AoE games that could go on for hours with so many twists and turns , such epic and emotional journeys of defeat, despair, retreat, exile, resilience, recovery, resurrection and triumph...
@jakubrydval5488
@jakubrydval5488 2 месяца назад
Another thing forest fire does is destroy one of the safe woodlines near the base, making it easier to raid villagers
@viniciusrosasilveira2344
@viniciusrosasilveira2344 2 месяца назад
Helps to transpass walls too
@thorveim1174
@thorveim1174 2 месяца назад
Yep its one of these powers that have many various uses otehr than dealing damage. The one issue with the spell though is that its heavily map-dependant, on most retold maps tree patchees arent too big and you have several of them immediately around your base, leaving the potential ressource denial of forest fire not too influential
@erikfisher5528
@erikfisher5528 2 месяца назад
However with repeat casts I could see forest fire working well against Gaia depending on where she puts her forests
@thorveim1174
@thorveim1174 2 месяца назад
@@erikfisher5528 repeat casts arer indeed a massive upgrade for it, but they are so expensive (125 favor for the first recast alone) that its rarely worth it
@viniciusrosasilveira2344
@viniciusrosasilveira2344 2 месяца назад
@@thorveim1174 so it will be easy to balance :)
@buckingham412
@buckingham412 2 месяца назад
As a Canadian, I can say that Forest fire is S tier lollll joking aside, might be better used along with a raiding party so you do some damage on villagers and potentially trap them under it
@xolotlnephthys
@xolotlnephthys 2 месяца назад
If he berserked all his eco at the point of the freeze I think he'd be in a much better place
@thedestroyerofworlds8685
@thedestroyerofworlds8685 2 месяца назад
I absolutely love that feature of the norse
@thorveim1174
@thorveim1174 2 месяца назад
@@thedestroyerofworlds8685 me too.. i even have a name for it: the "poor man's ragnarok" :p
@johncox9575
@johncox9575 Месяц назад
Agreed that would have turned the tide of that battle
@Joker-yw9hl
@Joker-yw9hl 2 месяца назад
Really glad to see you enjoying AOM Drongo. Still miss your AOE3 goodness but AOM more than makes up for that
@mikesully110
@mikesully110 2 месяца назад
Bear in mind with Forest Fire minor gods with good units/techs have to have a weaker god power to balance it out. Everyone picks Freya for the Valk etc if she had a stronger god power as well why would anyone pick any other God? Kind of like Hephaestus he has a powerful myth unit and good techs so he has a more defensive God power to balance it out
@inconemay1441
@inconemay1441 2 месяца назад
Nobody picks Apollo for Manticores after all.
@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH
@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH 2 месяца назад
Yeah, agreed with this comment. Freyja was considered an extremely strong Minor God in AoM and AoM:EE despite having such a weak God Power thanks to the usefulness of Valkyries and Thundering Hooves being a great tech. If she had a better God Power she'd be way too centralizing (like Skadi always has been).
@glos7569
@glos7569 2 месяца назад
Forest fire isn’t even weak. Burning a wood line to make the enemy base easier to raid can be very strong.
@BountyFlamor
@BountyFlamor 2 месяца назад
@@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH I remember watching games in legacy in which a well-placed Forest Fire killed 10+ vills gathering wood including nearby buildings.
@mikesully110
@mikesully110 2 месяца назад
I guess it could be good against those Gaia players who use Gaia's Forest to protect their towers. If an enemy isn't paying attention (like the old Walking Woods when the trees controlled themselves) then it could be strong but if they notice it all they need to do is move away and the whole thing is nullified. And since Retold shows which God powers have been used in the UI then it would be easily spotted
@qwerty222999
@qwerty222999 2 месяца назад
Forest Fire is super dependant on the map as well. This one doesn't have very large treelines, but when you have a map where the opponent only has access to 2 or so in his starting area, then denying them half of that can be pretty impactful. I would also say that Forest Fire on this particular map is best saved for when you want to push in for a raid, as you can open up their base for easy access. They can't prematurely fence off weakspots as adjecent buildings to trees will get destroyed. Suffice to say Forest Fire is pretty equal to Undermine in my opinion, except it has the upside of having slightly more utility on how you apply it and the downside of not being able to target defensive structures directly.
@at3649
@at3649 2 месяца назад
Drongo will realise how strong FF actually is, as soon as he sees it used correctly.
@giggiobizzobappi6520
@giggiobizzobappi6520 2 месяца назад
You can see at 7:31 that picking Archimede's ledger skyrockets the military population count of Kiluminati (only in the spectator UI).
@giggiobizzobappi6520
@giggiobizzobappi6520 2 месяца назад
And when the Temple where the relic was put in tumbled the count went to 1,somethingK. P. S. Yes Microsoft you can hire me 🎩
@Ephryad
@Ephryad 2 месяца назад
Проблема Кибер-спортивной аом была и остаётся одна - Невозможность камбэкнуть, без камбэка игры никогда не будут зрелищными и волнительными. Безусловно АОМ любимая игра среди всех подобных игр, но увы Отсутствие камбэка никогда не выдвинут эту игру на великую кибер-арену
@anonymoushealer1475
@anonymoushealer1475 2 месяца назад
forest fire would be nice to get past the wall by just burning a hole in it. probably better than doing it to just deal damage to some vils
@jpteknoman
@jpteknoman 2 месяца назад
Forest fire has several useful functions but most just use it to inconvenience a couple of villagers. First of all it denies a lot of wood by destroying the trees. Another function is that without those trees, you miss a natural wall so if you want to turtle, you need to make bigger walls to cover the missing forest. Or you can keep the fire for when you want to push and burn the forest to bypass the walls
@dankchill
@dankchill 2 месяца назад
I think Dwarven armoury upgrades are half price btw, or maybe like 20% off? Either way, theyre cheaper
@zenologic7786
@zenologic7786 2 месяца назад
Actually for the Frost power you can use it to destroy enemy military production while their army is frozen and can't do anything.
@tomasschmitt
@tomasschmitt Месяц назад
Forest Fire is very good when used strategically. Unfortunately most people just use it immediately once they advance.
@Newstart999
@Newstart999 2 месяца назад
I think forest fire is good when used twice, as u can destroy 2 wood lines, zoning his Vils to a specific wood line where u can attack him and he has no where to go
@Immortalits
@Immortalits 2 месяца назад
Portable rams were insanely strong in original AoM too, they're small and incredibly effective siege units, essentially immune to ranged attacks
@mikesully110
@mikesully110 2 месяца назад
it's a bit silly that 2 shirtless guys holding a log are immune to arrow fire but I guess what else could you make the unit look like
@thorveim1174
@thorveim1174 2 месяца назад
never was a fan of them myself... these are melee troops that MELT against hack damage and are kinda sluggish, meaning unlike siege engines they are VERY eaily killed in an army vs army scenario... but they are also the best that the norse have against buildings out of myth units
@butter5144
@butter5144 2 месяца назад
​@@mikesully110😂
@Immortalis97
@Immortalis97 2 месяца назад
I feel like in short games forest fire is underwhelming, but in longer games being able to starve your opponent of wood faster could be good.
@alexionut.05
@alexionut.05 2 месяца назад
Hey Drongo, I love your vids At 16:20, no, you are wrong. There are no diminishing returns. An easy example: going from 0% reduction to 50% means effectively doubling your hp pool, right? The same effect would be achieved by going from 98% to 99% reduction. This is a common pitfall I see so often in so many games by so many players. A more AoM-ish example: A hoplite has 115 hp and 35% hack armor initially. That means he has 115 / (1 - 0.35) = 177 effective hp against hack. Getting a mail upgrade makes that 1 - (1 - 0.35) * 0.9 = 41.5% hack armor. That means he now has 115 / (1 - 0.415) = 197 hack eHP. That's a 11% increase in eHP. Getting another mail upgrade makes that 1 - (1 - 0.415) * 0.9 = 47.3% hack armor. That is 115 / (1 - 0.473) = 218 hack eHP. That's again, a 11% increase in eHP. I hope I explained clearly enough. There are no diminishing returns. Sure, you could make an argument that it is diminshing returns to increase armor COMPARED to getting a hp increase but, in void, you never get diminishing returns from these types of calculations.
@tadpole_miniatures2046
@tadpole_miniatures2046 2 месяца назад
I wish AoE4's tech tiles looked like AoMR's, its much more engaging than that aqua and gold crap
@danielmunoz2316
@danielmunoz2316 2 месяца назад
And them are easier to see, too!
@MaJoRCream
@MaJoRCream 2 месяца назад
Love the videos Drongo! Just an fyi, Jarl is pronounced ‘Yarl’
@dudeguybro
@dudeguybro 2 месяца назад
I literally bought the Extended Edition to scratch the itch while I wait for this game. LOL
@Pater_Robert
@Pater_Robert 2 месяца назад
What would a forest fire at the singular tree (at 3:55) next to the unfinished temple have accomplished you reckon? Could it have destroyed the temple foundation and delayed classical age significantly?
@Terrancontrol
@Terrancontrol 2 месяца назад
it would have done like 24 divine damage to the temple foundation and if legacy AOM rules apply that means the foundation would take 48 damage.
@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH
@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH 2 месяца назад
Ulfsark could just circle round to the other side of the temple and continued building - doubt it would have accomplished much.
@Pater_Robert
@Pater_Robert 2 месяца назад
@@Terrancontrol Thnx! That clarifies it perfectly
@Pater_Robert
@Pater_Robert 2 месяца назад
@@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH Seems highly likely indeed. Thnx
@AlanNienow
@AlanNienow 2 месяца назад
I'm pretty sure that Thor pays a lot less for the armory upgrades.
@mikesully110
@mikesully110 2 месяца назад
i know he paid ~20% less or maybe 100 res less each in the base game (iron shields were 100 gold / wood off I remember that)
@zan4336
@zan4336 2 месяца назад
Not in retold that bonus got changed to free dwarf for each armory upgrades
@mickethegoblin7167
@mickethegoblin7167 2 месяца назад
​@@zan4336wtf? That sucks
@Ts5EVER
@Ts5EVER 2 месяца назад
I wonder if it is better to save up the forest fire and pop it in the middle of a battle when the opponent cant react as well and it might open a new path for your guys.
@LKSgm
@LKSgm 2 месяца назад
he can pop a 2nd time whenever, I don't think it costs a lot of favor
@qwerty222999
@qwerty222999 2 месяца назад
@@LKSgm It costs 125 favor. That's a hefty cost.
@Ts5EVER
@Ts5EVER 2 месяца назад
@@qwerty222999 Yeah otherwise you could easily starve someone of wood entirely.
@LKSgm
@LKSgm 2 месяца назад
@@qwerty222999 yep
@polldoll1856
@polldoll1856 2 месяца назад
Howdy, I have a question, if I buy the pre-release standard version of the game now, can I play the beta?
@lisboazz
@lisboazz 2 месяца назад
Bet 50$ that Drongo has content ready for every day until the release date
@AwesomeLionSaurus
@AwesomeLionSaurus 2 месяца назад
Hi Aussie. I noticed that Arena of the Gods have been removed from the Steam page. Any idea what is going on? Is it scrapped? I was looking forward to it :|
@canary4361
@canary4361 2 месяца назад
DIdn't play aoe in mutliplayer since my childhood. But regarding forest fire. I never saw it as something strong or giving you an instant advantage. What it does is if your starting point (depending on map) has a big forest or a easy wood source, burning it denies not only a easy to defend source of wood, it also denies ressources long term. You will have more wood ultimately, depending on the map its stronger or weaker but yah. Depends on what ya make of it.
@integralinsanity1641
@integralinsanity1641 2 месяца назад
05:00 The word is sheety. It's sheety. Forest fire is sheet.
@KingTiger10588
@KingTiger10588 2 месяца назад
Wow the graphics are noice
@adamforbes8652
@adamforbes8652 2 месяца назад
They should make it so that forest fire can be combined with walking woods!
@mathieugirod6485
@mathieugirod6485 2 месяца назад
The forest fires are obviously weak in maps like this but i can see the damages on heavily forested maps.
@grun1239
@grun1239 2 месяца назад
Do throwing axes still deal hack damage?
@nikosnikos4455
@nikosnikos4455 2 месяца назад
i thing you need to hold forest fire till enemy is at lthe last forest in base. to make him move out.
@FatCatBFME
@FatCatBFME 2 месяца назад
How can i watch replays in game if beta is closed?
@evangelostse2477
@evangelostse2477 2 месяца назад
Yeah but WHY DON'T THE BELLOWS PUMP ANYMORE?
@taskinberkay
@taskinberkay 2 месяца назад
its a waste to go shield upgrades when on defence against norse. They dont have access to pierce damage on their units. Just their defensive buildings.
@kingpietro1279
@kingpietro1279 2 месяца назад
freya should have the ability to spawn valkyries as god power or bring back death soldiers(soldiers wh oare fallenà
@DanielMescoloto
@DanielMescoloto 2 месяца назад
AoMR! ❤❤
@baschdiro8565
@baschdiro8565 2 месяца назад
The armour upgrades are still 10% relative strength. If you have 50% hack armour and go up to 55% with an upgrade you still take 10% less damage. And this is true for all armour values, as there is no diminishing returns.
@mikesully110
@mikesully110 2 месяца назад
yeah my brain can't get to grips with the AOM armour system. If you had 98% armour and then it went up to 99% that seems like only a 1% upgrade, but then in reality isn't it actually double? a 100 damage attack at 98% armour would do 2 damage, and at 99% armour it would only do 1 damage. So you haven't upgraded by 1% but by 100% ?
@baschdiro8565
@baschdiro8565 2 месяца назад
You need to see it the other way round. Instead of looking at the actual armour number, look at the amount of damage that the unit takes (i.e. 100% minus armour value). Going from 98% to 99% would half the incoming damage. The same as going from 0% to 50% or from 40% to 70% would do. Or with an example from the game: An Ulfsark has 30% hack armour, so he takes 70% of the damage. With Copper Armour his damage taken gets multiplied by 0.9, so 70%*0,9=63%, thus his hack armour is 1-63%=37%. With Bronze Mail you multiply the damage taken again with 0.9: 63%*0,9=56,7%, i.e. 43,3% hack armour. And with Iron Mail you get to 56,7%*0,9=51,03% damage taken, thus 48,97% hack armour. Of course the game rounds the values to 30%, 37%, 43% and 49%.
@oscartouhou
@oscartouhou 2 месяца назад
Red noob, un solo centro urbano, minimo es dos, si quiere hacer esa estrategia tortuga. Blue , dos valkirias para raidear minimo. Supo aprovechar la situacion y gano
@cubandarknez
@cubandarknez Месяц назад
I don't see it being worth past the first tier of upgrades. You really put yourself behind if you're just rushing the upgrades to get 1 dwarf per upgrade past those first 3.
@kevinkant6817
@kevinkant6817 2 месяца назад
I love to receive great bread
@ManchmalGaming
@ManchmalGaming 2 месяца назад
Beware AoM: Retold content! 🔥
@karthiksheshadri6600
@karthiksheshadri6600 2 месяца назад
ahh norse wars..I suppose without Skult, there's nothing to stop them from destroying each other as the gods watch and smile, sending them horrible creatures to aid in their mutual estruction.
@hughroe8598
@hughroe8598 2 месяца назад
Sad day when you can't win with 1.9k of units 😅
@KonnorGann
@KonnorGann 2 месяца назад
Are you done with AOE iv Drongo?
@raulomon95
@raulomon95 2 месяца назад
He is missing too much tempo
@Tiyto
@Tiyto 2 месяца назад
this Kiluminati,... "winner of first retold tournament" is bad af. These new "pros" will have to prove that they can win outside matchmaking fixing in Voobly, where they select who they play against and where they know each others for years.
@alexisbelfer7881
@alexisbelfer7881 2 месяца назад
They are not playing seriously but trying out.
@PopcornMax179
@PopcornMax179 2 месяца назад
I feel it's fair game if a jilted layoff of his decides to go to where he lives and take a car of his as recompense.
@sethparker3122
@sethparker3122 2 месяца назад
Gaia is overrated. The Kronos Rush is way stronger
@michaelschroeder2974
@michaelschroeder2974 2 месяца назад
BRING BACK AOE4!
@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH
@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH 2 месяца назад
AoM:R content is good for now - it's new and it's nice to see new things.
@LKSgm
@LKSgm 2 месяца назад
aom > aoe
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