Age of Sigmar 4's BIGGEST Balance Update Yet! Have they fixed the game? 

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I saw the article but thought nah I’ll wait for Rob’s vid. 👀

Sylvaneth changes are absolutely massive. You have my vote for a Sylvaneth deep dive video!

IMO the manifestation "balance" change is completely backward, because it has no effect on the person that is spamming all the manifestations. If you're playing against a low/no magic opponent then this isn't a change at all. It should have been a penalty to the cast roll for each one that's out, not a bonus to the banish roll.

You missed something on blades of khorne. Skarbrand and the lord of Khorne can now take any units, they aren't locked to just mortals or demons. Which is huge for list writing.

My 35% win rate ghouls got nerfed

I wish Ironjawz waagh would affect their companion weapons as well. poor piggies :(

Mangler squigs didn’t even get points reductions lol. Gloomspite gitz win rate are gonna tank. The squig part of the army is still bad, the spider part is also still bad even with points reductions. People are still gonna take 18 rockguts and whatever else. What a nothing burger of a update

Wouldn't a limit of 1 on manifestations controlled per wizard fix some of the issues with eg Teclis swarming the board with endless spells?

My Rotbringer list went down 110 points from 1980. So I was able to add a unit of Rotmire Creed, which is awesome!

In the future id love to see videos have a time stamp of when a specific faction gets talked about

Deepkin thralls could be 80 points and I wouldn't take them. Complete garbage

The Shining Company/Power of Hysh is nerfed more than you think, actually. You choose these facets at the start of the Battle Round. If you want to choose Power of Hysh on your Main Hammer Unit, you must be prepared to not having a Shining Companty on them, even if you're going as a Second. That will be an opportunity for your opponent to heavily damage or destroy your hammer (especially with shooting).

No Spearhead changes review. 1/5 stars....

Glad Morbid got nerfed.

Auspex Tactics of AoS 😅

Ironjawz change is wonderful; I’m already trying to think of lists that lets me waaagh every turn, and what each turn’s target would look like. Also makes the Ardboyz boss great since he adds an extra waaagh to any regiment.

And i agree about the manifestations. I rather they lowered the points overall so we can bring more of the models that we want because i don't want those ugly spells filling the entire board.

Sad ghoul noises. They essentially nerfed the throne as well. The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Leviadon, Allopex and Thrall coming down is kinda nice. Not like, amazing, but those are all key units of my army. That said I don't think it's quite enough to add an extra unit so >< ultimately not much help. I really feel like every army needs like, some sort of tiny filler unit, be it a cheap hero or a small squad of critters or something, just so you can fill in those awkward 50-70 point gaps if you want. YMMV

Sylvaneth are back babeeeee!

Super helpful as ever! Thanks for doing this for all of us :) 🙌

torgillius still one of the best minor heroes in the game.

I feel Sylvaneth have swung too much. Genuinely think they'll be one of the highest win rates with these changes.

I got into Flesh eater court at the start of 4th edition and its really making me second guess picking them up. Hope they get a bit of love. :( Haven't won a game with them yet.

Thanks for ending the way you did. Always important to remember the game is fun and not get lost in the worry of the top meta tournament armies.

Idoneth player here. these points changes are shite, i don't even get an extra unit to play with. i just end up 30 points under. load of wank.

"The numbers department doing loads of LSD" comment is making too much sense.

Read the article and it didn’t all sink in. So thank you for this, find it so much easier to digest.

I will never not make a suprised pikachu face when my factions degenerate reanimation gets nerfed

14:16 Something to note about this though is that with Wildform gone from it the banishment makes it easier to remove as instead of doing damage it will delete it now.

55:40 for the "There Is No Escape" ability, I'm not sure where in the rules it says that a player can only use an ability (without restrictions) once? WarCom does say it affects one unit; I just never saw this in the rules

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I think the nerf to Manifestations is not enough. I would like to see a change so you cannot summon a manifestation with magical intervention. Summoning manifestations in the enemy turn can make it very difficult to do battle tactics, especially with no bonus to unbinding rolls.

Ironjawz eating well, boyz

I went to drink beer after this FAQ, I am not going to say anything else

great video, as for your ending question about manifestations, i think they can be free but more restricted, for once skaven with a lore that looks like a deathwizards lore just feels wrong. also maybe make the spells or some of them only be casted once per game, i hate the spamming free stuff which is also sometimes better than actual units which can just be replaced as soon as they get killed. i want to fight the enemies models, not the same 4 manifestations over and over again, it only gets worse when both opponent play morbid conj and the game is just 8 endless spells fighting each other while the rest is doing battle tactics and not engage in anything. sure it doesnt have to be all meele combat but the way most of the current tactics are written it feels like im getting punished for fighting my opponent, maybe im just bad ofc

Skim through the article, think I understand it. Rob proves otherwise! Aprreciate the videos, Rob

If they where to make manifistations to a 1 cast per wizard they would have to give moste lores more spells to cast. Could be cool if you only have one manistifation spell per battleround, but all spell lores got bigger

Gluttons OP and I’m happy they’ve been dealt with. Rob is just BIASED against a lithesome silhouette

Would be good to see playing your own faction’s manis incentivised more

My question about the Vengeful Skullroot is seeing as the name "Awakened Wyldwood" doesn't differentiate between being 1 piece or 3 piece, they're all "Awakened Wyldwood", does this mean I can count the Skullroot as being a 3 Piece Awakened Wyldwood to give it a 12" aura for the traits

Thanks for the videos Rob! I'm new to AoS, after being a 40K collector for many years. After watching your videos, I've summoned the confidence to head to my first event next weekend, with my newly assembled army. Thanks again!

Brilliant video Rob. As an opinion to the monthly FAQ's and quarterly balance updates; It is not appealing for starting hobbyists and those without the abundance of time to invest. I've had Lumineth since they were released in lockdown. Due to life, gaming priorities and opportunity, I'm only now giving them a proper go. I had a 1500pt list that I managed to play 2 games with in AOS4. Wanted to play more & bigger games so dropped a sizeable chunk of cash to bring the list up to 2K. Within a week of having the models at my house, not built or painted I hasten to add, the list I intended is now over 2K and therefore illegal. I can't use all the models I brought, in one list. I'm seriously considering not continuing with AoS. What is healthier for the game; Growing the player base? Or, maintaining the "balance" for the competitive environment?

I personally don't think faction terrain should be chargeable full stop, you can move or run with in combat range and fight it but not charge or pile in. Doesn't really feel right either "lads go and destroy that empty boat........ok CHARGE"

Great video. I love your ability to articulate your opinion and break down changes that either don't make sense or are a bit confusing. Personal Opinion: I do like manifestations. I do think they are in a semi-toxic state, but I think visual reprsentations of spells are sweet. I think they were massively over costed last edition, and right now we are dealing with an over reaction the other way. I'd be very sad to see them go. I'm not sure they can balance them without adding points. What I'd like to see: -Faction manifestations are free. It's what makes your army unique. -Non-faction manifestations are point costed, but stay in those groups. You buy a package. I'd also like to keep the costs low, 100pts or less. And you always will compare to your faction manifestations. -I'd probably target 1 non-faction manifestation to be free to help the factions that don't have any.

On the manifestation front, I think it would be interesting to make each spell cost around 10 to 90 points individually as “filler” for lists with uneven points. in addition, remove the idea of “lores” where spells are grouped together. Faction specific manifestations would just be locked to that particular faction, but as a whole you could pick and choose which spells you want. There is probably a whole myriad of balance issues that I’m just not thinking of, but that’s how I would change it.

It is wild to me that they still haven’t walked back on manifestations being free; points are such an easy (and sometimes lazy) way of providing internal balance, without points they are going to have to keep rewriting the warscroll.

monthly FAQs = the meta and the armies will change too quickly. This is no videogame, it is a wargame for christ sake. I dont want monthly updates, i need time to build and paint my army/armies. This will hurt the game, wargames need longer periods of time, the only people that will be happy with this are hyper-competitive people that have their armies commision painted. Oh, and of course this "updates" will somehow force you to buy the under-used unit that was not relevant in the previous update.

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Is this for spearheads too? Or just bigger 2k games?

A slight misread of the Hedonites ability. They do not have to reroll it. If they they roll a 1 or a 2, they take the damage, AND they have to use the result rolled rather than gain a 6. So for example if someone uses 2 dice for a charge, and they roll say a 4 and a 2 on the temptation dice, they will take D3 damage and the result of their charge would be an 8. (6 & 2). The 1 or 2 roll on the temptation dice becomes the value of the replaced roll.

I think you are really minimizing the point changes. Armies were already having a hard time filling out 2k points so in many instances these point changes mean an army gets an extra unit or loses a unit. For instance most of the S2D builds will now lose a unit. They will either need to downgrade some varanguard to knights or drop furies or something similar. It really changes their scoring possibilities. They will still be good but the adjustment to army building and the quality of units is real.

Game is in a good spot (unless you are IDK) and really fun (unless you are IDK). Great game James Workshop

Not even remotely true that people won’t take double turns after this. Aggro armies easily tank the -4 points, max score primary and continue to smash you.

Shoutout for your comments at the end! Im not currently doing any tourneys so I tend to eyeroll alot at the comments on updates but you 100% right, im not shooting for Top 3 of a big tourney and if anything my favorite units have gone down in points. Ill get out there and have some great battles

Fyreslayers: They reduced points of units no one wants to use cause their rules suck in 4th. Good Job GW.. #wtf

Manifestation changes are not nearly enough. Like you said they need to cost points, you should only be able to have one per wizard, and you shouldn't be able to cast them in the enemy turn.

Why are fellwaters bad? I thought the save debuffs from their shooting is a nice effect? Am I missing something?

Great review thank you Rob. One day I will use your guidance and actually play a game of Sigmar😅

As a Skaven general i'm hopeful. But we're ice skating up hill right now if you're not taking cheese. 🧀🐀

Ogre changes are big steaming dog shite. Gluttons have been ass for as long as i can remember. Didnt reduce the cost of anything else enough and you have like 6 units you take from the whole list

100 pts less for the Not Shaggoth. That is a bit drop. SCE drops are odd. Lowering of points for stuff, that isn't taken because of rules and synergies, and some stuff going legends. Also classic GW move with, we wrote a bad core rule, two armies abuse it ...lets punish all shoting. Including raptors for SCE , which are the thing that carries SCE.

I do like old Kraggy ! He was done dirty by GW but the End of Empires rocks hard to me !

Between Idoneth and Flesh Eater Courts, it appears as if I gravitate to the trash-tier armies. Sad.

Sometimes I feel like it takes me too long to make my army to play this game lmao. Everything changes faster than I can paint it.

I just want the murknob to become a mob wrangler 😢

I love that endless spells dont cost points... but i understand that they have problems so idk

Come on then let’s find out how my army that I am still building is already not the same as when I started buying them 😂

thanks for the review rob great work :-) - Im an ogor player and yeah the changes hurt lol

You are a machine sir! Single handedly keeping my entire playgroup up to date on the state of the game!

You're never going to balance a game that has sales driving every design decision.

This is top knotch content ! This kind of passion and analysis is wild and apreciated !

I'm so happy this is posted as I can't read

Next battletome KO?

Where’s the stats show? I wanted to hear your analysis of the MiGT 😢

How do we balance manifestations? That's the neat part. you don't.

Seen the update and got excited to hear the Honest take on it. Great job as always!

man the gluttons increase was absolutely not needed.

I still don't know why GW: - Expects us to take 8 different Deathrattle/Deadwalker units. - Expects them to be wholly within 12" of a hero (per group of 4). - Expects your opponent to hit all of them simultaneously, rather than focusing damage. - Expects none of them to be destroyed. - Expects Legion of Shyish/Torgillius to even matter at that point. Like, you're winning with or without them. I never really saw value in the battle formation that lets you pick 4 targets, but now they've made Torgillius do the same damn thing, instead of doubling your healing. I would have much preferred a significant points adjustment, just letting him be unique (as a unique keyworded character) and do his thing, rather than being a discount way to get 2 sub-optimal battle formations at the same time. Instead, his points stayed the same... with half the shooting and having lost his one unique ability. Goddamnit, GW.

Gave me a free unit of gryph hounds in my stormcast army so happy days :)

Great video as always, Rob😍. Really appreciate the sentiments at the end.👍👍

First One🎉

Khorne needs a serious update as just now are in a bad place

What is that mortek crawler new list?

Seeing how the game I got completely smashed in, was my Maggotkin vs his Nighthaunt, I'm happy.

Really liked your comment at the end. Go have fun with your mates. Nuff said 😊

I think they fear Khorne for some reason. Maybe in the test plays of AOS 4.0, their units were much cheaper and obliterated everything with cheaper bloodthisters (like 380 points or so), and they got a reputation for being feared. I don't know, but it's one of the worst armies right now. It has above-average faction rules and some good warscrolls, but it's massively overcosted. For comparison, we had Skullcrushers at 250 points, but for just 70 more points, you could get Varanguard. The two are not even close. You have Skullreapers at 220 points (44 each), while Gluttons, even after the nerf, are 41.3 points each. Gluttons don't have critical mortal wounds and have a save that's 1 point less, but they have 1 more wound, wound on 2, move 2" more, have objective control 2 or even 3 each, can easily run and charge, and have a musician, etc. Skullreapers lose in all aspects and are more expensive too. I saw Khorne on BCP the other day to see how the army is doing (because I'm playing Nurgle in AOS 4.0, but I have all Chaos armies). Well, it's the only army that can't find a single 5/5 event win. No one from July to today. It's pretty brutal. My hypothesis is that they just have fear because Blades of Khorne performed so well in testing, and they increased the points or maybe cut some rules. I don't know. Anyway, the might have his numbers too... is pretty easy to see... i sent an email to GW after the point changes, for the next one...

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Thank for the hard and smart work buddy!! Keep it up🎉🎉🎉🎉

Every video you make, is always very useful. This is for sure the best overall resource for AOS on the internet. So thanks again for the nice video.

None of the other Honourguard abilities work well for shooting units. So if Priority Targets was changed to exclude shooting, I have no idea what armies like KO would pick.

Nighthaunt are stealth buffed from the nerf to special assignment: priority target.

For khorne, more points is more squads for more blood points. Good change imo

Does anyone know when the App is updated or where i can find a pdf of the updates? Cant find a damn thing...

Great vid

As a tzeench player I am glad they didn't make honor guard melee only. my main grievance with burning has been fixed love the sylvaneth changes nighthaunt change makes sense though slightly makes me sad lol yes I have those three armies, I swear I don't have a problem

Hello, what is the website that Robb uses for seeing warscrolls and rules please ?

KO were being carried by allied Stormcast

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