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It's no secret Disney Star Wars has been a but of a mess for a while now. The Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, and Obi-Wan Kenobi have all been not great. Many of us truly feel that Star Wars is dying and that Disney Star Wars is broken. In a galaxy not so far away, the highly anticipated Ahsoka show has arrived on Disney+, but the force of disappointment is strong with this one. So far, Ahsoka is not great...
🚀 Uninspiring Direction:
It's no secret that Dave Filoni is a Star Wars legend, but his transition to directing hasn't been as smooth as a podracer. The Ahsoka show's pacing and character development have left fans yearning for the excitement and depth that once defined the franchise. Yes, this is the most cinematic show that isn't Andor we've gotten, but that's a pretty low bar to clear. We'll break down how Filoni's directorial choices might be contributing to the show's lack of spark.
🎨 Dull Visual Aesthetic:
From the sprawling landscapes of Tatooine to the bustling cities of Coruscant, Star Wars has always captured our imaginations with its vibrant and diverse worlds. However, the Ahsoka show's visual aesthetic feels as rigid as carbonite. We'll discuss how the choice of visuals might be impacting the overall engagement and appeal of the series. Plain and simple, Ahsoka continues the Disney Star Wars trend of bad vfx due to an overall lack of style, colors, interesting cinematography, and an overreliance on the volume.
🌀 Identity Crisis:
One of the biggest lightsaber-sized issues the Ahsoka show faces is its identity crisis. Trying to appease Star Wars Rebels fans while also attracting a broader audience has left the show feeling like it's caught in a tractor beam. We'll explore how this tug-of-war between continuity and accessibility has affected the show's narrative and character arcs. And I say this as someone who watched and loved Star Wars Rebels!
🌌 Finding Balance:
Can the Ahsoka show ever truly find its place in the Star Wars universe? Is there a way for it to recapture the magic of the original trilogy while also exploring new horizons? We'll dive into potential solutions and offer insights into how the show could navigate its course to regain the trust of disappointed fans.
Join us as we analyze and review the Ahsoka show's rocky beginning, its connections to lackluster predecessors, and its struggle to find its identity in a galaxy of high expectations. Griffin (@griffschiller) gives you his Ahsoka review and explains why Ahsoka is bad, the huge problem with Ahsoka, why Ahsoka is off to a bad start, why ahsoka is a disappointment, and why Ahsoka is not great. Enjoy this Ahsoka explained and Ahsoka analysis!
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Ahsoka, also known as Star Wars: Ahsoka, is an American television miniseries created and written by Dave Filoni for Disney+. It is part of the Star Wars franchise and a spin-off from the series The Mandalorian, taking place in the same timeframe as that series and its other interconnected spin-offs after the events of Return of the Jedi (1983), while also serving as a continuation to the animated series Star Wars Rebels. The series follows Ahsoka Tano as she investigates an emerging threat to the galaxy following the fall of the Empire.
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@FilmSpeak 9 месяцев назад

What do you guys think of Ahsoka so far? Were you as disappointed as I was? Comment below! 💥Thanks again to Popcorn!🍿 Join Popcorn's The Exorcist: Believer event! ➡ popcorn.love/exorcist-FilmSpeak

@someguycp 9 месяцев назад

7:20 to skip ad

@patrickparker4576 9 месяцев назад

7:30 text on screen reads "is it's pacing"... The personal possessive pronouns are my, your, our, their, her, his and its. The word "it's" only ever means "it is" because it's a contraction.

@tobydobo4080 9 месяцев назад

Love it! More than what I expected. So glad to see ahsoka ascending to something we havent seen before. If ashoka is the catalyst to the next big thing in sw, then so be it.

@paxsondavies1575 9 месяцев назад

I agree with the needless point of watching Ahsoka turn three pillars. But as someone who loves Andor how can you say that when watching anything Syril related exists in that show. Do we really need to watch Syril eat with his mother, or move in with his mom, god damn it was mind numbingly boring

@foujiz 9 месяцев назад

@@paxsondavies1575 But those scenes are VITAL to the character's development. In such short scenes, you understand perfectly why he became the person he is. It's incredible directing and writing. Without those scenes, Syril becomes someone with a lot less personality and reasons for what he does. Those scenes were some of the best of the show character wise!

@officialmonarchmusic 9 месяцев назад

The biggest problem is really the strange pauses in between dialogue

@xdj2a2 9 месяцев назад

Grand admiral....*Awkward pause* THRAWN, it's like thinking about these moments in universe everyone knows who thrawn is why are people constantly taking pauses to say his name😤🤦🏾

@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 9 месяцев назад

All that time wasted in deep thought... Should have been invested in ACTION !!!

@officialmonarchmusic 9 месяцев назад

@@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 No offense, but I cannot tell if you are mocking me or being serious

@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 8 месяцев назад

@@officialmonarchmusic :- l am agreeing with you.

@officialmonarchmusic 8 месяцев назад

@@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 Okay, good. These days it's hard to tell heavy sarcasm from genuine statement :)

@HunterL95 8 месяцев назад

My buddy just told me Ahsoka is “peak Star Wars” and I’m about to have him committed

@thegoodreylo4749 8 месяцев назад

Do it

@Kalama_Llama_King_Kong 9 месяцев назад

I'm with you on pace. I like slow pace. I think taking time to develop character or slow burning a feel is not what we're seeing here. It's slow cuts in dialogue. Its not wayching them walk away with a beautiful blocking and a reminder that those steps carry weight and move the subject closer to something big. We're just seeing a couple seconds of someone walking.

@badbunnysballs790 9 месяцев назад

You said it yourself Ahsoka has abandonment issues and a whole lot of trauma I think her stoicism makes sense and was done purposeful. Since we know Anakin is showing up I’m pretty sure that’s what gonna make her lighten up and have a bit of Snips come back

@xemi2087 9 месяцев назад

Exactly. While I get people's disappointment in not seeing our beloved snips as we grew to love her on screen, this is character writing *and it makes sense.* It's not even a conclusion we have to come to ourselves, it's right there as Ahsoka expresses her worries about Grogu coming off his path (just like Anakin) and her guilt over leaving Sabine (as she did with Anakin). I feel like Ahsoka often supresses her feelings in regards to her past, we already saw that in Rebels, even when she knew who Vader was..she didn't tell anyone. And she just let it eat her up inside until she had to face Vader and the realization that she *is* right about him. It's all been building up towards it and in the trailer she literally says "I'm not here to talk about my past". So it will definitely be adressed and there'll surely be payoff. *_Edit_* To go even further: Not only is her guilt being adressed but her lack of trust in herself which was a theme with young Ahsoka (when Padme told her she'll learn to trust in herself and when Ahsoka ultimately said she didn't know how to trust herself when the jedi council couldn't). + her guilt over surviving order 66 when she didn't feel she deserved it contrary to many others, feeling unworthy of using the force "when she's not a jedi" and left them (to die basically..in her mind anyway)

@FuzzehBear101 9 месяцев назад

I have struggled with depression and while I definitely feel like in those times I became withdrawn and a lot less energetic in my character I didn’t become completely stone dead. Having the occasional snark from Ashoka would go so far to help fans remember that the character we once knew is there. To me Ashoka isn’t Ashoka she’s just someone wearing her skin.

@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 9 месяцев назад

Too little, too late to save the series.

@reallybig4868 9 месяцев назад

durrrr

@realBatman-89 8 месяцев назад

@@FuzzehBear101she's not a teenager anymore. Nearly all Jedi act with no emotion.

@isaiahvoss 9 месяцев назад

To those who haven't seen Star Wars Rebels, I loved the first two episodes of Ahsoka. Don't get me wrong it had a great introduction to Baylan and Shin as well as an reintroduction to Sabine and Hera. It felt cinematic to witness the aftermath of Rebels. Sabine stole the show. When she heard the recording of Ezra, It was great to see old friends especially after he defeated Thrawn. It felt like Ezra was still there. The connection between Ahsoka and Sabine felt real as it's two Jedi walking away from each other but figuring out why they needed to find Ezra and Thrawn was a pivotal part. Hopefully the series goes as planned. I'm sure we'll see Anakin/Vader again and hopefully Rex as well. "This is where the fun begins" once again.

@MrDeengels 9 месяцев назад

This is all pure trash

@reallybig4868 9 месяцев назад

Why are you only talking to those people? Your interpretations are things I genuinely hope sways people to reconsider their drinking habits.

@damonfairchuk-traverse4952 9 месяцев назад

There's only 2 episodes put out, and you already made a 30 minute video.

@twim3794 9 месяцев назад

speaking of slow and tedious this video is slow and tedious taking 20 minutes to say "ahsoka is slow and tedious"

@FilmSpeak 9 месяцев назад

Cool but also not really. I say pretty quickly it's slow and tedious and then proceed to give examples why to support my point. The thesis is right off the top though...so idk learn essay structure? Maybe that'll help.

@KaneK1234 9 месяцев назад

You got owned so hard lmao

@Mateocabrera2389 9 месяцев назад

Idk if it’s an unpopular opinion but I loved the episodes.

@isaiahvoss 9 месяцев назад

So did I. It felt like Star Wars again. It's not an unpopular opinion.

@Waywardpine 9 месяцев назад

Did you watch the rebel series just curious?

@emmarod8746 9 месяцев назад

@@WaywardpineI watched Rebels, both Clone Wars shows and the movies, Bad Batch, and the live action shows. The episodes were really good and you could see the animated shows feeling present in the episodes.

@steelie2010 9 месяцев назад

I’m glad for you honestly ! It was missing a few things that frustrated me , mainly in Ahsoka’s character writing, im hoping I’ll come around later

@conradrosgaard3481 9 месяцев назад

@@steelie2010this is honestly the only problem I had. Her entire character arc kinda went the same way as obi wan when talking about fighting - they start out loving it, sub consciously believing that it’s the point of being a Jedi because of the war they’re fighting in, but then slowly stops and realizes that Jedi are peacekeepers. After that they start being willing, not to fight, but to end the conflict, in whatever way seems fit. You see it with obi wan when fighting Maul on Tatooine and Vader on the Death Star, and you see it with Ahsoka in tales of the Jedi and when trying to speak Vader/Anakin out of doing whatever he’s doing, instead of simply fighting. She’s no longer a soldier, she’s a Jedi (in all but name). Then this show comes a long and it feels like we’re back to season 2 Ahsoka who loves to fight and doesn’t care about just being a peacekeeper… other than that tho, I totally loved the first two episodes. All the small nods to clone wars and rebels were amazing, and while the plot didn’t move a lot, I loved it as a starting point/setup for the show!

@officialmonarchmusic 9 месяцев назад

I agree with literally almost all of your criticisms, and found myself nodding my head the whole video, though my general consensus is more positive. I enjoy these more candid and specific types of videos, I know they don't get as many views but I really feel like I understand specifics about what I did or didn't like that I didn't pick up on

@rowanadair4616 9 месяцев назад

Dreadful take

@OrionInSpace 9 месяцев назад

As someone who's seen all of Rebels twice through I think I can say that if you are a Star Wars fan that didn't see that show Ahsoka might come off as a bit weird at first. I actually really liked the start, by no means was it perfect. You could clearly tell there was a bit of a weird adjustment with it being live action as opposed to animated with the original Rebels show. The pace was off at times and I think the directing could've been better for actors in certain scenes. Yes I know everyone is ticked off with the lightsaber stab but hey what can you do lightsabers in Star Wars have never been consistent and yes that even goes back to the original trilogy. I think this show could lead up to a great end so I am optimistic right now. I just really want to see Thrawn come in and then my boys Zeb and Ezra return with the crew back together.🙏

@codyeasonBGR 9 месяцев назад

I think the edits between talking in conversation they have pauses that are way to long.

@codyeasonBGR 9 месяцев назад

But I do have a question I watched Rebbels but also listen to all the Thrawn books. Why would Thrawn leave his map in an old temple. He never makes wasteful actions. Ya he loves art but he does not hid stuff in art in plane site.

@gaffer2602 9 месяцев назад

@@codyeasonBGRIt wasn't Thrawn that left it there. It was something that they knew *could* lead them to where the Purrgil migrate to

@BP9000 9 месяцев назад

I think it's a false comparison. Rebels is a show made for children on the disney channel, and ahsoka is made for a more general audience

@OrionInSpace 9 месяцев назад

@@codyeasonBGR that's fair although that only happened a few times

@lyleabrahams 9 месяцев назад

Im pretty much loving it so far. People acting like they dont understand of the trauma all these characters went thru and are going thru... and yall talking about they seem too sad and wheres the upbeat energy... Ahsoka and Sabine are shells of themselves at this point.

@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 9 месяцев назад

As l explained to my 18 year old grandson who is an encyclopedia on Star Wars...not everyone watching Ashoka on Disney is aware of all of the intricate foibles of the Clone Wars. Many of us are watching this Ashoka as a "stand alone" story, and we are not picking up on the deep, thoughtful silences that take up too much screen time in this series.

@cxcfm 8 месяцев назад

One thing I’d like to mention about Stevenson’s performance in episode one is his control during the prison break. As an audience, we’ve seen hallway fights like the one shown in this episode. Darth Vader, Maul and even Luke Skywalker have torn through the cannon fodder but each one was different in some way. It’s no different here. The easiest comparison to make would be Darth Vader vs Baylan. In Vader, we can see his rage and power as his blocks swiftly arc into the next. Baylan, on the other hand, is more composed and refined in his movements. It’s a key difference that informs audiences about the characters. One is a powerful ruthless demon and the other is a precise warrior with purpose. Then again, this is just an observation

@etcetera662 9 месяцев назад

I thoroughly enjoyed the first two episodes. The slower pace didn't bother me, I get that the time could have been used more efficiently but I think it's a huge leap away from the rushed pacing most other Disney-era Star Wars productions tend towards. That edited fight scene was seriously legit though; I tend to favor animated Star Wars since the medium does a better job at portraying supernatural abilities. I never knew how good live-action lightsaber duels could be with a bit of post-editing.

@s.patterson5698 9 месяцев назад

The slow pace isn't the issue....Andor was a slow pace, but the writing and acting were glorious. AHSOKA needs work.

@michaelleggo9318 9 месяцев назад

I have to disagree with you completely. Where was the fan service? There was literally none 💀 everything in both EPs were in service to the plot and characters… Nowadays people just assume named character or familiar object = fan service and that's just... Wrong.. like objectively.

@NuniPikachu 9 месяцев назад

Right? Fan Service would be Chopper killing 50 people in one go. Hera is literally a Rebels General so she kinda has to be here anyway, so fan service would be if we got Zeb, Kallus and heck, even Rex too in the first 2 episodes, even though they didn't need to be here for the story.

@conradrosgaard3481 9 месяцев назад

I wouldn’t say there’s no fan service, but definitely not enough to ruin the show and only really fan service if you care a lot about Star Wars. The droid at the start was reminiscent of the scene with Maul’s probe droid in TPM, Sabine’s haircut “ritual” was the same as Kanan’s, the “ending” of episode two (like the second to last scene) was the same as the ending of rebels (though I’d say this wasn’t really fan service, just anchoring the two shows timeline together) etc. It’s very implicit fan service, it doesn’t ruin the episodes, and most people most likely wouldn’t even notice it. But for the once like me who did, it’s fucking amazing lol

@nz605 9 месяцев назад

That’s how you can tell the difference between a fan of Star Wars and a fan of being an annoying debating contrarian.

@properromanwoman.2813 9 месяцев назад

@@nz605 I've got to disagree, up until now ive been able to see the good/bad in every previous star wars film or show, but the acting in the first two episodes was not great. Ahsoka's portrayal was wooden and Sabine fell flat. I'm hoping that in future episodes we see more believable emotion coming from the 2 female characters that are meant to be the show runners.

@conradrosgaard3481 9 месяцев назад

@@frojoe2004 I’d personally say that call backs/easter eggs are a type of fan service since the only reason they exist is to make the fans happy/satisfied. Still, as you said it’s in the background and not taking the focus from the actual show, so I don’t get what he’s complaining over.

@Quandryification 9 месяцев назад

Oh my god its been 2 episodes and allready on this BS.

@mydreaminorbit9297 9 месяцев назад

I have a suggestion for those that didn't like the first two episodes of Ahsoka. Stop watching it, you'll be better off. I did it with She Hulk and it saved me a lot of time. I'm glad I don't have this problem with Ahsoka. The first two episodes were great.

@gaffer2602 9 месяцев назад

It's not that he didn't like it, he just didn't enjoy it as much as he though after the premiere. He's still looking forward to the rest of the show

@hdbfilmz7999 9 месяцев назад

Wow youre a genius. Who should I send my donation too. We need to ensure you can spread your wisdom to the rest of the world.

@mydreaminorbit9297 9 месяцев назад

@@hdbfilmz7999 common sense is free

@mydreaminorbit9297 9 месяцев назад

@@gaffer2602 I was referring to those that didn't like it specifically

@hdbfilmz7999 9 месяцев назад

@mydreaminorbit9297 if that's the case then you owe me money

@saltyfr35h 9 месяцев назад

It sounds like everyone is walking around brooding. And a 30 yr old is about to be trained to be a Jedi who doesn't have any access to the Force?

@Bysisndidksn 9 месяцев назад

Aside from a couple pacing issues I thought it was quite good. Most of the critiques I’ve been hearing sound like nitpicking

@properromanwoman.2813 9 месяцев назад

why are people afraid to talk about the flat, wooden acting that we saw in the first 2 episodes? I'm sorry but ahsoka and sabine left a lot to be desired in terms of embodying the animated character they're meant to bring to live action. I'm hopeful that in future episodes we see some believeable emotion from those two.

@RomanPhilosopher 9 месяцев назад

@@properromanwoman.2813 why are you commenting about it on every comment to this video? The acting wasn't that bad, it's a kids show, not oedipus rex.

@paxsondavies1575 9 месяцев назад

@@properromanwoman.2813I hope you’re not one of those Andor lovers, trying to convince me Andors acting wasn’t bland as fuck

@markpugh6808 9 месяцев назад

@@paxsondavies1575I don't get the Andor love either I thought it was boring af

@paxsondavies1575 9 месяцев назад

@@markpugh6808 so boring dude. So much crap and filler that anything good in that series was hardly noticeable. I’m watching some random ex empire employee eat cereal with his mother then I get online and see how amazing the episode is being talked about. I swear there’s just a big section of Star Wars fans that just love shit now

@Otis-Spunks 9 месяцев назад

All the characters are either in arrested development or have regressed. Rehashing the same traumas with every new show is not a fun viewing experience. How can I be convinced Ahsoka has grown when she still has "abandonment issues"? She left the order when she was 16, shes 40 now! How can I be convinced Sabine has grown when shes still an edgy recluse with trust issues? I don't see the good things you point out, because those things were good when they were introduced and first resolved. Digging them back up is a detriment to their characters, not a strength. Honestly a lot of these explanations you have come off as head canon.

@BVCStudios 9 месяцев назад

No it's not

@onacanilao 8 месяцев назад

You pointed out everything my husband and I have a problem with this series. We got to episode 4, but it’s just mostly ok. I’m not really a Star Trek fan, more of a Star Wars fan - but I have to say Picard and Star Trek: Strange New Worlds are more exciting to watch. Personally, just my imo, the Star Wars franchise can’t seem to capture that magic they had with the original 3. There were a couple of good movies, but it just seems tired now.

@Mr.StevenKerr 9 месяцев назад

I think I'm still in the middle of a prolonged silence after a small line of dialog. Pausing for 30 seconds every time doesn't give the script more meaning or gravity.

@cynthiafernandez2372 9 месяцев назад

I personally loved em

@McDonald_Mando 9 месяцев назад

I’ve only seen praise for these two episodes

@theantone7476 9 месяцев назад

I think you might have jumped the shark here, buddy. Two episodes in? I havent seen it yet. Im waiting till all episodes available. Now if you made this after 5 or 6 episodes in, thats fair. Two episodes in only? Not the best take

@FilmSpeak 9 месяцев назад

I fully said, it could change. This is just an initial impressions video. I'm still watching and said "look we're like 25% into this thing, it could change..." but I also know Star Wars rn so.

@milkbucket3526 9 месяцев назад

I think Dave Filoni would greatly benefit from being creative director and still learning a few things about how to attack an ambitious project like this, I like the guy but I think he still needs a little more time before he can truly achieve something great and amazing, not that he's bad, but he has potential to go from good to great

@FilmSpeak 9 месяцев назад

I couldn't agree more. That's the kind of role he would THRIVE in.

@VonJay 9 месяцев назад

I know star wars is awesome and amazing but I think if SW fans were fans of storytelling first, or even cinema, they'd never say that Filoni is creative. If I removed everything that Lucas created from a Filoni lead script I'd be empty handed. I'm not saying that he should create more contraptions for the universe I'm just saying that there isn't anything he has added to the story that is unique. Even with all the ideas that make star wars he doesn't seem to have a storytelling philosophy on emotional traction (we seriously watched 40min of solving puzzles), or a cinematic philosophy on how to sell a scene (those Lightsaber fights were almost as bad as the ST). Sure the opening was awesome but it was something I saw several times before, There was really nothing new about it (like the Vader scene at the end of Rogue One).

@Maximo_ari 9 месяцев назад

Where can we find the edited footage you used from the vfx comparison?

@FilmSpeak 9 месяцев назад

Linking in the description

@ckromuluss11and89 9 месяцев назад

They're trying to make a padawan the future if the jedi,even though she walked away,

@emmagaroutte9211 8 месяцев назад

I almost screamed the second I heard David Tennant’s voice! You are absolutely right: he’s so much more enjoyable as a droid than most of the human characters! He’s almost like a slightly optimistic version of K2-SO: very blunt, very factual, but with a little more whimsy 😊 Very much like Tennant’s signature role as Doctor Who

@lewishamilton537 9 месяцев назад

I feel like to say it’s off to a bad start is harsh

@EnterTranscend 8 месяцев назад

Lingering shots on characters, props, and locations I have no idea about is not a way to introduce new viewers to 'Rebels'. It's just confusing. Who is Ezra Bridger, why are we staring at a bunk for so long? Who are all of these characters Ahsoka seems to have tons of unsaid history with?

@freewulf_1214 9 месяцев назад

2 episode premiere is too early to critique

@Malaks_Missing_Lower_Jaw 9 месяцев назад

Been great so far

@NicholasMcClure 9 месяцев назад

Disagree, 100%. I've watched maybe a half dozen epodes of Rebels and Clone Wars TOTAL - and I loved the first 2 eps. Makes me want to go back and watch those series, but don't feel like I need them to enjoy where the characters and situations as presented are going, plenty enough to be intrigued by. I'm in.

@kingdude1999 9 месяцев назад

I wish people would get over the fact of believing Filoni wrote any episodes for the Clone Wars & Rebels. He was just an executive producer. He obviously got to the point of believing his own hype like Patty Jenkins. And look what Jenkins did with Wonder Woman 84.

@ULBERTcz 8 месяцев назад

Does anyone have link to that clip with enhanced effects from 17:07 ? Thanks

@FilmSpeak 8 месяцев назад

In the description

@ULBERTcz 8 месяцев назад

@@FilmSpeak Thank you, I didn't notice that.

@QuinlanVoss. 9 месяцев назад

Bro it’s been two episodes and he is shitting on the whole thing🫠🫠🫠🫠

@captainbat37 9 месяцев назад

Wow your wrong

@DeeePYP 9 месяцев назад

Rebels fan here. I really liked the first two episodes of Ahsoka. It was fun to see the live action version of these characters. I really like the inclusion of the dark jedi and the fight scenes have been great. They are setting up some really great things by pulling ever so carefully from the Star Wars extended universe lore. I'm really excited about where this season is going.

@hearstboy 9 месяцев назад

I agree that Ahsoka and Sabine feel uncharacteristically stiff and stoic. However, I loved the slower pacing of the first two episodes, it allowed me to really feel the undercurrent. Ironically, I found your video to drag on. Take your own advice and don't linger so much.

@liss5158 9 месяцев назад

I'm really glad you showed the edited lightsaber fight cos i hadnt seen that clip and i agree i think its much better, the editing and colour grading arent doing the animation to live action leap any favours in my opinion

@ChrisGreen-nh7xc 8 месяцев назад

A total disappointment, Disney has ruined Star Wars, first the stupid cartoons and now bad series after bad series.

@sebces2576 8 месяцев назад

I'm glad someone's talking about the filmmaking aspects of the show. Unfortunately, I don't think it's improved much (yet).

@rubydoo3307 8 месяцев назад

My issue so far is that people online are being mean to anyone asking questions, including me. Usually fandom means you help each other out. If you want more seasons of this show and that Filoni feature film, you should be more welcoming to people asking questions, or less culty about Filoni (respectfully).

@mikedignum1868 9 месяцев назад

Have to admit the two episodes were slow-burn compared to the animated series Clone Wars/Rebels. Then again Ahsoka is now in her 40's? so her outlook has changed. She is more like Old Ben Kenobi in her attitude.

@GH0STN0TE88 9 месяцев назад

I don't believe a word you said... Because I watched it and it's great so far

@frozenthingsstudios2452 8 месяцев назад

What did you think of episode 5?

@FilmSpeak 8 месяцев назад

Eh...some good stuff but as a whole, didn't love it. Ep 4 was MUCH better.

@wickdaline8668 9 месяцев назад

Should have waited till the season ended before reviewing but I think the first two episodes were fine for what they were.

@dancingvalkyrie 9 месяцев назад

No they were dull. First impressions are important and this was boring.

@wickdaline8668 9 месяцев назад

@dancingvalkyrie Oh yeah, well, that's just, you know, your opinion, man.

@thetin-candalorian3319 9 месяцев назад

@@wickdaline8668nice clone wars reference

@wickdaline8668 9 месяцев назад

@@thetin-candalorian3319 Big Labowski reference.

@thetin-candalorian3319 9 месяцев назад

@@wickdaline8668 mb still a cool reference

@LmNew864 9 месяцев назад

To go from rebels where we had complete, established character arcs, there live action counterparts feel and act like completely different characters, I also think the overall direction for the actors is poor and needs to be improved.

@Real_RPGgaming 9 месяцев назад

Can you link that Twitter clip of the lightsaber fight?

@FilmSpeak 9 месяцев назад

I'll add it to the description in a sec!

@Real_RPGgaming 9 месяцев назад

@@FilmSpeak thanks man I kept trying to find it and just couldn’t find it and it’s always good to give credit

@alexandernicholl5772 9 месяцев назад

I really used to love this franchise but honestly Kenobi severely wounded my love then Mando s3 quietly killed it to the point i have no hype for this show ill probably watch it when a few more episodes are out which is nuts since i still love Ashoka Tano

@anonamos_ 8 месяцев назад

I like how this guy gives his opinions on the first 2 episodes and is waiting for the rest before he judges the whole series

@DigitalJediMaster 9 месяцев назад

I don't see how a series doing well, even reasonably well, among fans as "off to a rough start" because of any particular individual's reaction to it. It isn't necessary to see Rebels or an Ahsoka recap to understand it. It enhances it. It's fun to grasp parts you might miss. But it isn't dependant on it. And that's an aside from the fact that not every Star Wars property needs to be specifically crafted to bring in new fans. We have so many other Star Wars properties that can do that, the films notwithstanding. A single project can be target fandom, even if thought that's not what this series does. It's just doesn't ignore the past as if it's a thing that will confuse people if they learn a new thing then didn't know before.

@Chrysostomus_17 9 месяцев назад

The difference being that Thrawn will most likely be the formidable and evil tactical genius his followers want him to be and take charge, unlike the "deconstructed" hobo and character assassination that was Jake Skywalker.

@doemaaan 8 месяцев назад

Yea I dropped it after episode 4. After Andor, nothing hits the same in the Star Wars universe.

@lilytea3 7 месяцев назад

0:39: 📺 Disney Plus Star Wars shows have been a mixed bag, with cancelled shows and weak releases, but Dave Filoni's work on Clone Wars and Rebels was great. 4:13: 🍿 The reviewer feels that the new Star Wars series, The Bad Batch, is caught between catering to fans of the previous show and trying to appeal to new viewers. 8:01: 📺 The live-action shows on Plus have issues with pacing, being either too fast or too slow. 12:05: 😕 The video criticizes the lack of emotional resonance, pacing issues, and stiff acting in the episode. 16:22: 🎥 The video criticizes the action scenes in Star Wars for lacking excitement and investment, but praises a fan-made enhanced version of a lightsaber duel. 20:24: 📺 The video discusses the potential storyline involving Ahsoka, Thrawn, and the former Jedi, as well as the contrast between different character relationships. 24:29: 📺 The video discusses the character development of Ahsoka in the remaining episodes of the show, focusing on her journey to move on from the old ways and her guilt of not being there to save Anakin from turning to the dark side. Recap by Tammy AI

@god-of-logic99 9 месяцев назад

This is the best star wars we got since the clone wars.

@NuniPikachu 9 месяцев назад

Nah.

@gregoiredavid5246 9 месяцев назад

It's funny cuz while watching the first 2 episodes, i was thinking "Great ! At last, a series that takes its time and doesn't rush into action !" I feel like all Disney star wars projects have been fast paced action packed stories. And it felt good to finally have the time to take a break and focus on character developpement. But i havent seen rebels so maybe that's why i get this feeling, idk ! However i agree with you, the lightsaber duels aren't very dynamic, that's a shame. Filoni's gotta improve his directing skills. Well, this series sure is good practice for him before a star wars movie !

@foujiz 9 месяцев назад

That is the problem. The pacing is slow, but does not bring anything in either character development or world building. The problem is that Andor showed how to do slow buildup in the Star Wars universe, and Ashoka really doesn't deliver.

@shippendales8543 9 месяцев назад

@@foujizAndor only managed to do that because you watche'd it's whole season If you'd seen the first 2 episodes alone You probably would be saying the same thing Andor Andor worked becasmuse of the whole show as a whole but certain portions of it were slow and boring The first two epsides of a show are set up Character development is supposed to happen thougoug the duration of the show Ahsoka swallowing her pride and deciding to train Sabine is character development Same with Sabine going back to her jedi training

@foujiz 9 месяцев назад

@@shippendales8543 You're right, all criticism for now should be taken with a grain of salt. The full season is what really matters. Still, those can be judged for what they are as of now. I was one of the few that really like the 2 first episodes of Andor, but quite a bit of people found them boring and directionless. I guess it's my turn to feel the same, but the direction of Ashoka really doesn't help. (like there's 3 lighsaber action scenes, how come it manages to feel slower than Andor)

@furynotes 9 месяцев назад

To be honest. The 1st year plus that stitched together movie theater film was pretty rough. Nobody remembers that apparently.

@brianevans9619 9 месяцев назад

Fully agree ! Glacial pacing - finding the map..solving the map - multiple cockpit scenes ..arriving /docking/leaving ……all in real time !

@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 9 месяцев назад

Disney and Kathleen Kennedy have broken the number one rule of opening a new series... The first episode (and second, in this case) MUST grab you and make you wish that you could watch episode #3 immediately. If you loose the interest of your viewers and fan base in the first few episodes, then you can expect to have a pretty high drop out rate. And the reviews of those who watched the first couple of episodes does not bode well for the continuance of season two.

@rubydoo3307 8 месяцев назад

@@blueeyeswhitedragon9839I didn’t even think of the pilot rule, and you’re right I rewatched Mando,s first episode and it was tight.

@thegoodreylo4749 8 месяцев назад

The Acolyte can’t get here soon enough. The fans’ STUPID reaction to The Last Jedi led to this cringeworthy phase of ‘fanservice Star Wars’

@lukeluke333lukeluke 9 месяцев назад

Overall I enjoyed it. I have some concerns moving forward but giving it a fair chance. For me. The best part was the villains. I find them all interesting and hope they stay that way. I've only watched Rebels season 1 so I'm not as interested in the side characters so far. I'm watching for Ahsoka. I agree with your takes. Other concern. There's only 6 episodes left. Can they tell a complete season story?

@masonfriel9882 9 месяцев назад

i personally really enjoy this show. i also grew up with the clone wars like many others and rebels i only recently watched and finished. i’m 21 now and seeing a main character from my childhood get this live action show is amazing

@hhh1200 9 месяцев назад

shin hati and baylan skoll were going to steal the show. now it is up to shin. great character. have to give dave credit for her

@johnhargrove5268 9 месяцев назад

Love to see you make a video on Rebel Moon

@FilmSpeak 9 месяцев назад

Coming soon!

@sanholo2483 9 месяцев назад

I dont think this is a slow show, the plot advances very fast by quantum leaps. Its just that dialogue is meaningless filler until they solve a rubik cube "ball", or plug an usb on an assasin droid kind enough to have info on the sender, finding out who the bad guys are by cheaply having a droid reading the license plate from a recording...

@jonathantoymaker 9 месяцев назад

Nonsense..Ahsoka is fantastic..😊

@goodputin4324 9 месяцев назад

Nope 😊

@jonathantoymaker 9 месяцев назад

@@goodputin4324 Yes 😁

@remiabayomi6195 9 месяцев назад

Calm down bro! 2 episodes

@getpranked70 9 месяцев назад

Aint even gonna lie I loved this intro to the show, its definitely off to a better start than other star wars shows in my opinion

@Assyrianmikey 9 месяцев назад

Im liking the dark Jedi, 9r whatever they are. Their pretty impressive

@steelie2010 9 месяцев назад

I’m so glad someone else got the same issue with Ahsoka’s character writing She seems lacking in empathy and compassion, things Ahsoka was famous for and made her a nuanced character

@properromanwoman.2813 9 месяцев назад

YES! like, wtf lol she's being portrayed so differently than in the animated shows. even when we saw her in Book of Boba Fett and Mando, she was more upbeat, chipper and smiled actually. but this iteration feels wooden and well, lifeless.

@NuniPikachu 9 месяцев назад

@@properromanwoman.2813Its almost like trauma and experience as you get older changes people. I don't think Im acting the same as I did when I was 15 or so. You can actually see her personality changing a bit in the final season of clone wars

@wereadcomicstoo 9 месяцев назад

Idk she seems to be doing better than others after being involved in a massive war and losing all her friends and allies. She wasn’t so upbeat in Rebels either…

@shippendales8543 9 месяцев назад

I think Ahsoka does have the hope she once had from everything she's gone through She is colder and in a way that choice makes sense Moat people she gets close too end up dying And her closest companion is a robot in episode 1

@shippendales8543 9 месяцев назад

@@properromanwoman.2813Her Mando and Boba Fett Appearances have one caves She is interacting with she assumes is a child Most people even overly serious people tend to smile more around children and act more upbeat Ìts a creative choice We see a more serious Ahsoka akin to this when she is fighting the Mayor

@peterworam9376 9 месяцев назад

I enjoyed the first two episodes and disagree about them dragging - they flew by for me. I think Rosario Dawson plays her well and was a good casting choice, but she seems to be too short for Ahsoka, or maybe just not lanky enough. It throws things off for me a little, particularly the saber duals and her interactions with Hera and Sabine, as the scale is off. Ahsoka is one of my favorite characters, and has my favorite fighting style out of all the sabre wielders - incredibly fast and fluid with her motions, but also very graceful. Dawson does a commendable job, but Feloni hasn't really captured the essence of her style. Again, just a nitpick, but the fact that fanboys are altering fight scenes to make them more compelling tells me I'm on to something.

@bosuper9403 9 месяцев назад

I liked the tone and performances. Tired of MCU type comedy that was seeping into Star Wars. I like the melancholy vibe it has.

@nope5657 9 месяцев назад

Star Wars was never melancholy. It's got zip, zap, pizzazz - it's swashbuckling and operatic and high melodrama. Even the most "mature" SW like Andor understands this. Nothing else on the show side sans maybe Mando season 1 gets this.

@thegoodreylo4749 8 месяцев назад

This just feels LIFELESS

@gbrow1604 9 месяцев назад

This comment section is making me lose brain-cells. So many braindead Disney fans that seem personally offended that he isn't loving the show as much as them (even though he's literally saying it could get better) and making the dumbest excuses for the show.

@FilmSpeak 9 месяцев назад

hahaha thank you for this

@Globalo45 9 месяцев назад

Well i liked it, this just feel like your following the hate trend

@Me-not_you 9 месяцев назад

I agree, I feel like people are just saying like “it felt hollow” but really can’t explain what that e

@dancingvalkyrie 9 месяцев назад

Complaining about hate is a pathetic defense

@tstreb66 9 месяцев назад

I agree, this dude is just looking to complain and pull shit out of his hat of complaints that don't exist.

@properromanwoman.2813 9 месяцев назад

@@Me-not_you it felt super hollow compared to what we've been conditioned to expect from animated Sabine/Clone Wars' Ahsoka. the acting was flat, wooden, lifeless, and their dialogue was just boring. it took some characters 10 minutes to say something that could have been communicated in 10 seconds.

@aquiestapedro 9 месяцев назад

14.000 years of star wars lore and we are in the same era same plantes same characters same trash You guys are a joke

@sixfoursoul2538 9 месяцев назад

My favorite part is how lightsabers dont kill people anymore...

@RomanPhilosopher 9 месяцев назад

Not all stab wounds are fatal. It depends on what/where is stabbed

@sixfoursoul2538 9 месяцев назад

@@RomanPhilosopher like the difference between getting stabbed in the arm or the leg than getting stabbed through your sternum and your stomach 🤣 I think what you mean to say, is light sabers kill you differently, depending on if you are male or female, and if you have Mary Sue, plot armor on or not 😂

@RomanPhilosopher 9 месяцев назад

@@sixfoursoul2538Larry Stus and Mary Sues arent really involved in star wars. There are no obvious author inserts that are masters of everything with no effort or problem and are insanely cool and loved by everyone. What I was saying is if a lightsaber cuts off your head or stabs you through the heart, you are F'd. If it destroys a vital organ, you are F'd. If it stabs you in a kidney, you might be alright. Lightsabers, unlike a actual blade, carterize their wounds. Its why Darth Maul didnt bleed out when he was cut in half and was able to live, in pain, but live, because he lost no vital organs. But I guess to you Maul is also a Larry Stu? No. Star Wars also exists in a futuristic society with a lot of advanced medical staff and Sabine was taken immediately to a medical facility where they immediately went into surgery and saved her life and healed her wounds. Its a kids show, just enjoy it man. If you want something more serious go watch Succession. Its great.

@sixfoursoul2538 9 месяцев назад

@@RomanPhilosopher You seem to forget that , Qui-Gon instantly died of this wound, so did Han Solo. ( of course you are going to say that Han really died from the of the fall lol ) Maul getting cut in half only further proves there are major in consistencies on how Star Wars uses light saber. But according to you I cant have any own opinion on that because its a Kid show now ? , so thank you for telling me what you think I should watch instead , and thank for being an expert, light sabers, organ damage ,and above all mary sues!

@RomanPhilosopher 9 месяцев назад

@@sixfoursoul2538 was stabbed in a different place and didn't get immediate attention. He was also much older. It's also possible his death like oni wan and Yoda later was not a typical death due to his relationship with the force.

@fredericduran5186 9 месяцев назад

You guys nag about EVERYTHING...its just fine geeesh

@dean8525 9 месяцев назад

Nothing will beat Andor when it comes to star wars series imo. Andor moves away from all the childish playful fight scenes that star wars is known for and really puts some grit and darkness into its scenes.

@codyeasonBGR 9 месяцев назад

Dose anyone know why Ahsoka has no force speed or jump or the sith have none of those powers ? I mean they had spoed in episode one and thier is plenty of force powers in games and RPGs. So can anyone tell me why they do not use them ..

@RomanPhilosopher 9 месяцев назад

Games and rpgs (for the most part) are not Canon. Jedi outcast/survivor being the only exception (probably)

@nachotrystan 9 месяцев назад

I’m sorry, the Luke scene in Mando s2 was too much fan service?! Nuh uh! No! Scene still gives me chills and finally gave us at least a few moments of the post original trilogy Luke I’ve wanted

@SaharatOfficial 9 месяцев назад

I actually havent fully enjoyed a star wars disney plus special like i did with Ahsoka. Trying to not hop on the Star killer train as i think thats what makes people hyped and have their hopes die like Obi Wan series.

@artierupinen9240 9 месяцев назад

*me holding my Star Wars Visions Posters happy and content*

@robertl5606 9 месяцев назад

Best Star Wars we’ve had in a while

@franksloe5087 9 месяцев назад

Thus comment appears on every single new star wars slob Disney serves. If you enjoyed it, fair enough, but I strongly disagree with this sentiment, and the last 10 times it was echoed by others on shows like Boba Fett and Andor.

@NuniPikachu 9 месяцев назад

@@franksloe5087 Eh, Not on Boba Fett, it didn't.

@franksloe5087 9 месяцев назад

@@NuniPikachu... I've seen people say they "liked the mods"

@dancingvalkyrie 9 месяцев назад

Andor is better than this stale crap.

@masteryoghurt2110 9 месяцев назад

It's too early to judge. It had some serious writing issues that could be easily avoided. Nevertheless Im still looking forward to the next epsiodes because I really liked Rebels and Grand Admiral Thrawn is my favorite fictional character.

@umairzia4030 8 месяцев назад

You REALLY make up your mind too EARLY. I highly recommend watching episodes 4-6 and reevaluating. Some of the best Star Wars content in years. Even tone and great themes. Hoping you make an updated video

@PeteyBoy23 9 месяцев назад

I really disliked the rubik's cube thing... "every single permutation" you're not wrong, but how the fuck did anyone look at this and not just try spinning it around? Weird.

@vojtechchochola2661 9 месяцев назад

Trying to do the fight for real is stupid. Fights about two capable fighters, when they don't have capable fighters

@codyeasonBGR 9 месяцев назад

Where is the Twitter fight link?

@FilmSpeak 9 месяцев назад

Link in description

@codyeasonBGR 9 месяцев назад

@@FilmSpeak thanks, man will look in the description. So happy you made this video. You and I had a lot of the same feelings about this show. Did you find the edits between the spoken lines so very long? Had to edit my first question their. It was written so poorly I think only you understood it. 😂

@JackSmith-ns1uq 9 месяцев назад

I mean if its not for you its fine, but we are literally just 2 episodes in. Its a little early make call, much less a video essay.

@Kalama_Llama_King_Kong 9 месяцев назад

I'm pretty much exactly where you are.

@brianschlicher59 9 месяцев назад

Some good ideas in the show. I have to give you a downvote for not confronting the raising Sabine as a padawan issue. Sabine having no force powers/sensitivity and Ahsoka having disdain for the Jedi ways. That rewrite of Sabine is grating to say the least. Still watching to see where this goes. Hope the payoff is worth it.

@gabmoreno280 9 месяцев назад

Understandable filmspeak My Aunt doesn’t want to see the Animated series (cus they are animated ) but I do feel she will be extremely confused by the events of Ashoka The Clone Wars and Rebels , however This series first 2 episodes was pretty good Start I hope it continues to be good to its finale Also What are your Thoughts on Blue Beetle now that it’s released in theaters ? i thought it was really Good as well Capturing the Emotional moments in film and a interesting villain Carapax being a Naruto emotional Villain I gave the film a 9/10 in my review (in Insta)

@EmperorDank 9 месяцев назад

As expected the comment section largely disagrees with this video, i for one agree with your points.

@mullaoslo 9 месяцев назад

I litteraly started watching and instantly just started looking at my phone.. That says a lot as a life long star wars fan.. Over 33 years of active fandom.. I just don't care anymore

@gogofastful 9 месяцев назад

Ffs, enough with the negative video subject just to get views.

@KatherinaBathory 8 месяцев назад

Tbh, I have issues with some of what has happened in the show, but not enough to throw me off. I kind of love thay it's a continuation of Rebels to be honest.

@parkerdean4032 9 месяцев назад

I don’t understand how you say the show is in limbo between the hardcore and new fans. That’s what this show needed. It needed to bring in the majority who haven’t seen Rebels while remembering their fans.