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AI Music is Good Now - So What Do We Do?! | UDIO AI 

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I tried out the new Udio Music AI - we need to talk. Drop a comment with your thoughts on this.
As mentioned in this video, all the background music was made courtesy of members of the Producers Tier of the Digging The Greats Patreon for 2 recent Beat Battles. Find out more at / diggingthegreats
Thank you to the following producers for the music in this video. Credits listed in order as they were heard in the video:
“Optional” by ill.literate
“Junkyard Strut” by C_CATS ATTACK - ccatsattack.bandcamp.com
“B’s Magic Fingers” by ill.literate
“Soundtrack for that montage scene in heist films where it cuts to each person doing their special thing to lay the groundwork for the big payoff” by C_CATS ATTACK
“Untitled” by The Jackal / jakalbeats
“Untitled” by Matalo linktr.ee/Matalo
“G.E.B.” by Damion F.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Welp.
05:05 What Are We Doing?
08:54 So What's Next?
11:20 What Do We Do?

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@Cyke-One
@Cyke-One Месяц назад
I’m 45 years old and have been listening to hip hop since I was 13, djing since 16, and writing graffiti for even longer. I’ve never made much money for djing and probably in the red from graff but I continue to do it for the pure love of it. I don’t get out painting as much but I’m still able to drop about 4-5 pieces every summer and love every minute of it. If you have something in your life that you love to do regardless of the money consider yourself lucky and keep doing whatever it may be. That drive and passion is the one thing that AI can’t replicate. Keep it movin. Salute!
@drewthehustler
@drewthehustler Месяц назад
Facts. Exactly
@MATALOMUSIC
@MATALOMUSIC Месяц назад
W comment
@Dilla4life
@Dilla4life Месяц назад
Indeed!!!
@LFiers
@LFiers Месяц назад
Very true and well said but this is about AI potentially replacing talented artists, taking away any potential monetary earnings and devaluing the craft even more than it already is. Lots of people make a living off this. This will change that for a lot of people and more cooperations will own all creative processes, make the money of us while cutting out the nodde man. This is deeper than just about hobbyists.
@johncitizen8828
@johncitizen8828 Месяц назад
WORD
@cedricjoshuapayne
@cedricjoshuapayne Месяц назад
"resistence is futile'. That's a fitting lyric for AI music.
@billyalarie929
@billyalarie929 Месяц назад
STOP. FUCK.
@CantTellYou
@CantTellYou Месяц назад
lol the robots will never show their hand like that so he had to write that one himself
@cedricjoshuapayne
@cedricjoshuapayne Месяц назад
@@CantTellYou I figured as much. A little nod to Star Trek. Pretty dope, haha!
@wormsali
@wormsali Месяц назад
Humans did it first lol
@MrHarmonicminor
@MrHarmonicminor Месяц назад
And that was the tune I directed last night, in Udio. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pWOkk8oVWnU.html. The spoken vocal literally becomes more borgish as it progresses and the lyrics get darker. Top Tip: Don't teach one AI to direct another AI.
@TheInternetIsDeadToMe
@TheInternetIsDeadToMe Месяц назад
We’ve optimised the joy out of life.
@nickk5948
@nickk5948 Месяц назад
But think of the value for shareholders 📈📈
@PaulBrunt
@PaulBrunt Месяц назад
@@nickk5948 No, musicians might be panicked, but they'll carry on anyway because they love it. Shareholders, on the other hand, are in full-on panic mode. AI creates abundance, and abundance is the enemy of profit. In 10 years' time, when models like Udio are running locally on everyone's phone, what exactly will there be for companies to sell?!
@heavenseek
@heavenseek Месяц назад
...And Merit.... And Discovery.
@blakasmurf
@blakasmurf Месяц назад
AI was meant to do the hard stuff, so we could enjoy the creative stuff... The companies got it a$$ backwards like do my chores and let me make music FFS not the other way around!
@lukeautosymbol2668
@lukeautosymbol2668 28 дней назад
And we've legislated away any possible solution.
@NiElsir
@NiElsir Месяц назад
As an artist, having spent a lot of my life playing, learning and trying to scratch out a living with music, this is extremely depressing and demotivating to see happen so quickly and without any real control. Ouch
@TeagueChrystie
@TeagueChrystie Месяц назад
Or even pushback.
@usz1444
@usz1444 Месяц назад
don't be depressed. ai music is soulless
@lobotomyscam1051
@lobotomyscam1051 Месяц назад
It's depressing for a former musician and music lover, too.
@anthonyanderson9771
@anthonyanderson9771 Месяц назад
It may make live music and musicians more in demand. AI can't make pictures, videos, or anything without it feeling surreal, like a fantasy or daydream. It's so perfect that it breaks the suspension of disbelief after a few moments. Human beings telling human stories is what's always brought people together or sold, and will always bring people together or sell. The cheap backing tracks, illustration videos, and art that doesn't take the foreground belong to AI it seems. But did those things really make us money? I don't recall anyone in any field saying it made more than a meal or two honestly. People will want more or something else for their music, and musicians will be there to provide it. Keep the love.
@michaelsimpson9175
@michaelsimpson9175 Месяц назад
@@anthonyanderson9771 *not yet. Give it a year
@MusicFromAnotherTime
@MusicFromAnotherTime Месяц назад
As someone who just started taking guitar and singing lessons 6 months ago, I think I'm a tad fucked. That being said, I feel like live performances will become all that much more meaningful moving forward.
@broghad8241
@broghad8241 Месяц назад
Trying to start a rock band in 2024 was alr fucked, buddy. Rock is dead
@jr.jamesfuller9282
@jr.jamesfuller9282 Месяц назад
I think anything live and/or including humans will be a luxury experience!
@anachronismic
@anachronismic Месяц назад
I mean if you're at lessons stage just focus on learning and improvement and the internal part of it! 6 months in you shouldn't be focused on making money from it imo
@lobotomyscam1051
@lobotomyscam1051 Месяц назад
Concentrate on writing good songs and don't get caught up in being the most technical player, because you will never win that battle.
@BoogieBoogsForever
@BoogieBoogsForever Месяц назад
Yeah if you get good, live guitar shows will continue...
@ramsey4630
@ramsey4630 Месяц назад
Use it to make loops. And clearance free samples. And go for what ya know. In fact it could be A win samples are expensive , lawsuits for everything. But sample based producers can really get off with it.
@powderedtoastfacekillah734
@powderedtoastfacekillah734 Месяц назад
Yeah you can definitely use it to your advantage
@MATALOMUSIC
@MATALOMUSIC Месяц назад
Ooo that's a great idea!
@powderedtoastfacekillah734
@powderedtoastfacekillah734 Месяц назад
Metro Boomin just did this with “BBL Drizzy” He sampled and chopped an AI created song that was supposed to sound like a Motown song and released it today for people to rap over and diss Drake As soon as I heard the beat I thought of this comment
@anemoia5549
@anemoia5549 Месяц назад
But won’t people just use that as a prompt rather than the process of chopping and selecting?
@sebp400
@sebp400 Месяц назад
it's not as fun as real digging tbf, you're missing the excitment. it's too easy.
@exloopy
@exloopy Месяц назад
The only real defense against AI is community. Music and other arts were born in our desires to celebrate, mourn, dance, and be in awe together. To explore what it is to be human WITH other humans. AI is a logical progression for the extraction algorithm that is capitalism, where lonely rich asshats want to find the easiest way to get richer. Your passion and conviction here is inspiring. Do what you love. Yeah, pay the bills however you have to, but above all keep rockin.
@TeagueChrystie
@TeagueChrystie Месяц назад
🔥
@sub-jec-tiv
@sub-jec-tiv 27 дней назад
You’re speaking as if a human-created creative technology must be “defended” against. Won’t you be surprised in 8 years when there’s a golden age of incredible human music based on extremely talented human beings using AI tools to help them imagine a more unusual human domain.. then perform that music themselves. (That’s what i’m doing, and i’ve been a professional composer since the 90s.) Go ahead and downvote me. I guarantee you i’m right.
@KaranNair123
@KaranNair123 16 дней назад
THIS
@xavisonline
@xavisonline 16 дней назад
​@@sub-jec-tiv The "AI" 'tools' are, as we speak, being designed and implemented with the express purpose of replacing all but botique niches of non-live commercial art. Period. This is the reality. Some truths are unpopular, but not all unpopular takes are true.
@googm
@googm 14 дней назад
@@xavisonline And they never will.
@browndamon
@browndamon Месяц назад
Great, nuanced take. The career crossroads is here for everyone.
@jameswalmsley9038
@jameswalmsley9038 16 дней назад
As a song writer and audio engineer, 15 years down the road, I can see this tool being incredibly useful to me. I would NEVER use one of these AI generated songs, but I would absolutely use one to bring fresh ideas for sections or structure to genres I’m not familiar with. If you were a sync writer and a company wanted a “funky disco” song, you could get AI to make a disco track and practiced and skilled song writers would just deconstruct the track and use it to influence their original composition. If you make beats, I’m sure you’ve found a sample before that’s completely opened up a new idea to you that you wouldn’t have considered before the sample. this is the same idea, I feel. This is a tool but it’s not a replacement for a good song writer. Pair a good song writer with this tool and art will be made. as always, all music is in the instrument, the musician is just the filter. AI song writing is just another instrument.
@jameswalmsley9038
@jameswalmsley9038 16 дней назад
I should also add, when you’ve written songs for years, you’re not using melodies or beats from songs you’re influenced by, for me I take broad strokes. Instead of thinking “I need a guitar part, G, C, Am, C like that song” I am thinking “what is it that makes that song feel like this?” The answer is often abstract, like a warm guitar with a frantic beat, or a distorted vocal with an exciting and joyous guitar rhythm. If AI can serve you the feel of a genre, you could figure out exactly what it is that makes that genre that, and start from there. You can do it with famous songs, but you could start from completely untouched territory if it was generated just for you. That excites me
@Darthimpakk
@Darthimpakk Месяц назад
As a beatmaker that finds samples, chop samples and put in the work I find this a bit disheartening. On the other hand, I can see a bunch of "producers" and "beat makers" using this and claiming it as their own. Not gonna stop MY grind.
@oscard9429
@oscard9429 24 дня назад
Sounds like it just made your job easier, I will definately be sampling my ai creations
@DonnyOMalley
@DonnyOMalley 12 дней назад
This is the first video of yours that I have watched and I’m blown away by the quality. Thank you for sending such a powerful message and for keeping your quality top notch much love.
@gabriel.cashez
@gabriel.cashez Месяц назад
There's something that Ai can't take away from us, and that's the process
@cmartin6109
@cmartin6109 Месяц назад
damn that was deep and so true. That baby need to birth
@gabriel.cashez
@gabriel.cashez Месяц назад
@@cmartin6109 Fr
@samthesomniator
@samthesomniator Месяц назад
Usually buyers don't want the process to be long. They don't enjoy it, it just raises the price. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@krusher74
@krusher74 Месяц назад
its cant take our enjoyment of making music away, but it can take that being a profession to ern a living from away from a huge percentage of people.
@enlighten3507
@enlighten3507 Месяц назад
Thank you. AI can't take away the joy of playing an instrument, ai can't take away The Flow that I get from singing, or hearing a particularly awesome moment of vocal greatness.
@KalebPeters99
@KalebPeters99 Месяц назад
Yess I'm so glad to get your take on this, I knew it would be sobering but nuanced. Keep it up, you're one of the best real humans on here! ❤
@puvendranpillay8802
@puvendranpillay8802 Месяц назад
Captcha type BEAT bruv....
@Subjective_JoshNelson
@Subjective_JoshNelson Месяц назад
So cool you used some of the beat battle folk's material and credited them above. F**king love this, Brandon!
@lyleabrahams
@lyleabrahams Месяц назад
Im a producer / beat maker/ engineer / mc / painter / illustrator / designer.... I have been doing this stuff for decades.... Ive been telling those that ask what will we do moving forward... and the only answer I have is paint / illustrate live (which I do).... and perform live (which I do). I hope there is something that is done moving forward where everything that is AI related HAS to be included in the art created.... from music. painting, stories, designing, fashion, film and so on. There needs to be something in place letting all people know what has been created by humans and what has been created by machines. Do it for the love homies... and pray the outcome leans in our favor. UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME
@oscard9429
@oscard9429 24 дня назад
Commie
@CharlieTooHuman
@CharlieTooHuman 13 дней назад
@@oscard9429Dummy
@MarkEDark
@MarkEDark 8 дней назад
Universal Basic Income = Selling your Soul 2 Politicians who Will Control your Future...sad but that's the future it all Sucks.
@tristanotear3059
@tristanotear3059 Месяц назад
There’s much wisdom in this video. It’s too bad that AI is not used solely on things that can improve people’s lives in immediate and concrete ways, as in medicine or science. It never should have been dropped on culture, where it has been used to trivialize or destroy human creativity. But it’s beside the point that some AI art is “good.” We can’t ever forget that the human imperative is that art is an interaction between the human creator and that creator’s human audience. Remembering this helps me bounce right back in, say, a situation that you illustrate here that I might actually enjoy an AI-generated song. I can say, immediately, that the song is no longer good, and that is because it violates fundamental principles of the artist/audience relationship. I create music and poetry not so much because I want it to be “good,” in which circumstance I might be tempted to adopt a machine to make my decisions. I create in order to, well, create. And this is where AI becomes such a Faustian bargain: It is the antithesis of creativity.
@SineEyed
@SineEyed Месяц назад
_"... art is an interaction between the human creator and that creator’s human audience."_ No it's not. That's just crazy talk. There are no "fundamental principles" being violated for a relationship which doesn't exist..
@Michaelkaydee
@Michaelkaydee 27 дней назад
Nah... people simply need to embrace change and technological progress... a story as old as time... don't think of it as a replacement but as an additional tool just as many before its time were viewed
@KKAkuoku
@KKAkuoku Месяц назад
Nice as a novelty. Frightening as a potential replacement for creativity.
@diggingthegreats
@diggingthegreats Месяц назад
💯💯💯
@RedmotionGames
@RedmotionGames Месяц назад
Based on a mass robbery of copyrighted material.
@lionizedjunkie
@lionizedjunkie Месяц назад
I disagree. Most mainstream music lacks creativity anyway. AI won't replace the masterpieces, just the radio nonsense most of us ignore anyway. The most creative people will find ways to use AI to enhance their art, and create things we never could've imagined.
@Kanyewestbiggestfan123
@Kanyewestbiggestfan123 Месяц назад
Perfectly said
@verygoodfreelancer
@verygoodfreelancer Месяц назад
the interesting thing about music and art is hearing experiences from another human, however artificial. when it’s entirely a computer there’s no communicating happening, just regurgitating.
@PrincePresto1
@PrincePresto1 Месяц назад
Absolutely love your work. The details are everything. I’m an old record store owner from Little five points Atlanta Georgia and I love music in all forms and your channel has been the most favorite thing I’ve come across in the last week or so.
@tonematrix
@tonematrix Месяц назад
Been enjoying your videos but didn't realize I'd get an inspirational pep talk to keep on keepin' on with my passion. Thank you!
@castlewild
@castlewild Месяц назад
Such a good and important video. Thank you DTG!
@coldlyanalytical1351
@coldlyanalytical1351 Месяц назад
You are essentially saying that only the best-of the best can survive in the world of AI .. which means that the mediocre journeymen are doomed. I think that this applies to software developers and other domains too. That said, I doubt that we can stop all this, so major social changes lie ahead of us.
@JamesWeaver-vk3wz
@JamesWeaver-vk3wz Месяц назад
Amazing video, Brandon. Really covered a lot of my thoughts on this AI stuff going on - I loved your takes and I hope to be as positive as you, even through these weird, changing times!
@MATALOMUSIC
@MATALOMUSIC 22 дня назад
Yoooo came back to say thank you so much for featuring my battle beat and during such a profound part of the video, grateful for this channel and the community you're building!
@At.mos.fEarProduktionz
@At.mos.fEarProduktionz Месяц назад
I don't use AI to make music...but it is fascinating. Now the industry will get flooded with not so talented producers using AI how could one verify if the beat is generated rather than actually made by a person. Everyone will be doubted.
@JC20XX
@JC20XX Месяц назад
We'll start screen recording our DAWs or sharing project files I guess? That doesn't sound so bad. Until those get generated too I guess 🤷‍♂️
@At.mos.fEarProduktionz
@At.mos.fEarProduktionz Месяц назад
@@JC20XX scary… weird times.
@andrewsmith9440
@andrewsmith9440 Месяц назад
Sounds like a discussion in the teachers lounge, "how do we make sure the students aren't just copying and pasting from ChatGPT?" "Just give them a pen and paper and make them do all their work in front of you now."
@At.mos.fEarProduktionz
@At.mos.fEarProduktionz Месяц назад
@@andrewsmith9440 that’s already happening. Kids have been called out for using AI to write reports.
@CantTellYou
@CantTellYou Месяц назад
@@JC20XX ​​⁠ lol I was gonna say, the “producer” using AI won’t have the multitrack session available to send over or edit / re-mix……. Yet, anyway..
@DojoOfCool
@DojoOfCool Месяц назад
Excellent views going beyond the basic AI talk that's going on. Thanks for being human and making great videos.
@aronannerwallelb2891
@aronannerwallelb2891 Месяц назад
Nice words in the end man! Keep up the good work🙌🏽
@johnplaystheguitar123
@johnplaystheguitar123 Месяц назад
This was an incredible video thank you. I've been messing around with Udio for the past week or so and it's amazing and scary. Your video is the best video I've seen on it so far.
@lewjones3
@lewjones3 Месяц назад
I believe the best way to sell music now is to up charge it a lil bit, then offer something physical, with the digital download
@BoogieBoogsForever
@BoogieBoogsForever Месяц назад
That would be wild if we get back to people buying records large scale.
@lewjones3
@lewjones3 Месяц назад
@@BoogieBoogsForever I agree...
@hurdygurdyguy1
@hurdygurdyguy1 19 дней назад
​@@BoogieBoogsForeveras long as there is digital buying records large scale is gone...the vinyl record fad is just that, a fad and very niche...
@djse
@djse Месяц назад
I recently had my first client asking me to rebuild an AI generated track (I'm doing ghost production, mostly edm), it gave me this weird feeling of being replaced, but at the same time asking myself "should I refuse the job or should I do it and take the money while I can (and kind of be ok with that) ?". Music made by people will never disapear, just like paint or photography, because people enjoy doing it, not even always for the result, but just the process. And I know I will always make music because I love doing it (even though its my job, I still doing it on the side as a hobby for my own project), but professionally, I'm not sure anymore, all the "make music for money" part will be replaced by those tool (it"s kind of already happening and the quality is not there yet; but it's not going to be worst than what it is today). Strange time to be alive, technology was supposed to replace the boring job, not the fun one :/
@BoogieBoogsForever
@BoogieBoogsForever Месяц назад
Damn.
@pvanukoff
@pvanukoff Месяц назад
Oh it will. It will replace all jobs.
@varvarvarvarvarvar
@varvarvarvarvarvar Месяц назад
Mother nature doesn't care. When you're out, you're out.
@hurdygurdyguy1
@hurdygurdyguy1 19 дней назад
I say take the money while you can, there will be a time when you can't...
@neuronichangfire
@neuronichangfire Месяц назад
Thank you for your words of encouragement. I’ve always been in awe of the minds that do what you and other artists produce. We take for granted the enjoyment of the finished product but don’t understand the depth of time and work to get there. This new technology challenges humanity to adapt, improvise, and overcome. It will be a battle. The artist that keep going will struggle, but those seeking the humanity in the art will be driven them.
@jackietunes
@jackietunes Месяц назад
Thanks for lifting my spirit 🙏
@Kanyewestbiggestfan123
@Kanyewestbiggestfan123 Месяц назад
The music industry is cooked if AI keeps advancing at this rate
@freshestinclass763
@freshestinclass763 Месяц назад
It's technically not even a industry..it's a cool table not even elected by real people in the first place. It's been cooked... the food getting cold... why so many vultures if the talent over there?
@BoogieBoogsForever
@BoogieBoogsForever Месяц назад
​@@freshestinclass763What does this mean? Cool table? Why are there vultures if there's talnt? Is this translated?
@otakudesuka7376
@otakudesuka7376 Месяц назад
Have you seen this youtube video of Lupe Fiasco using Ai to assist him writting lyrics ? We are done. We are the last organic generation. But I am doing beats so if there is a Ai which could mix it well, I may try it for a minute.
@CantTellYou
@CantTellYou Месяц назад
I am curious though.. with the technology how it is at the moment, do similar prompts ever end up with very similar sounding “songs”?
@20thingsgoing62
@20thingsgoing62 Месяц назад
@@CantTellYouyes actually and its very revealing to what it was trained on. Take an abba lyric and point your prompt in a abba direction and you hear some strangely familiar things
@Frankenmuppet
@Frankenmuppet Месяц назад
I'm reminded of your Random Access Memories video. AI may be able to create songs, but will they ever be able to tell a story over an entire album like the Robots did over a decade ago.
@krusher74
@krusher74 Месяц назад
But think of it this way the robots made one album and it was great, But AI can make a million, it's just a matter of finding that good one.
@CantTellYou
@CantTellYou Месяц назад
You are so SO forgiven for using AI on the Midnight Marauders one lol That might be my favorite DTG video & I’m probably gonna replay it on a yearly basis
@rossmar4609
@rossmar4609 Месяц назад
Thank you so much for this video 🙏🏿
@dmug
@dmug Месяц назад
Social proof like live demonstrations is going to be the future for art. I’m mostly been pretty negative about the AI creative space but there is potential, say I score a nice horns section, perhaps an AI assisted sampler could spit it out rendered with much better articulation instead of just using key switches and individual horns, and I could give it a few descriptive words to assist the tonality “late 1960s, tape, saturated, soul”. Also, the biggest hit so far from this service is “I glued my balls to my butt hole” so there’s that…
@the-engneer
@the-engneer Месяц назад
Yes!!! I glued my balls to my butt hole made me realize how a catchy song can be made very simply
@andrewsmith9440
@andrewsmith9440 Месяц назад
Most shows just have a computer or something playing a backing track anyway. Look at Taylor Swift whose midi controlled piano started playing itself early before she was sitting in front of it pretending to play the song. It's already all smoke and mirrors with live performances of music
@the-engneer
@the-engneer Месяц назад
@@andrewsmith9440 depends on who you go see live
@anthonyanderson9771
@anthonyanderson9771 Месяц назад
Hey Dmug, I hope you're good! Live has always been the way to make money anyway. Live is the human experience across genres and artforms. You can't escape the real world in real time.
@pierrebroccoli.9396
@pierrebroccoli.9396 24 дня назад
@@the-engneer I remember walking in on a White Stripes set at a large festival, timed unbeknownst near the beginning and I had not heard them before, an hour later after the set was done, I walked out with great appreciation. Just like I did with Basement Jax and their set later in the evening. The vocalist Jazz Scatting over their DJing was great as were the rest of the musicians they had performing with them. There is live and then there is Live. I'm all for digital instruments in the process but not when tech is used to cover up one's lack of ability as a performer.
@FireyDeath4
@FireyDeath4 29 дней назад
The main thing you should be a tad bit concerned about is how AI has the potential to eventually become an experience machine. Everything that separates human mentality from AI can be applied to AI, and they will probably do eventually. If we make new things, those things will shortly no longer be new and special. Eventually AI will be able to generate things much more procedurally, deliberately and methodologically, and eventually it will be able to innovate all by itself, which worries people because of how you know the singularity's there once it can do that, and that signifies some loss of control for all of us even in containment :P
@kirkolsen
@kirkolsen Месяц назад
I have been using AI as a collaborative tool for a while, and watching every video I can find on the subject. While the beginning of the video taught me nothing new, the last five minutes, the story of your life, and your thoughts on our relationship to AI, is the best I’ve seen. I take it to heart.
@jamesdean5095
@jamesdean5095 Месяц назад
Thank you for this detailed take and demonstrating so clearly how we need to focus back on humans in the process. As you were breaking down the two paths forward for artists, I was thinking about what we need to do as a society. How can we advocate for and elevate human creativity and perspective. If creative industries are all about the quality of the output, then we're screwed. But if it's about the people behind the art, their stories and experiences, then we can continue to build human creativity. Also if I sign up for Patreon is there an extended, angrier, more man-yells-at-cloud version of that rant? Cause I need that in my life right now
@saximus81
@saximus81 Месяц назад
Brilliant take on this topic mate - love it. Only way forward is to embrace our humanity. People will still want to see what other humans do. As Norwegian producer Thomas Kongshavn puts it: "People still watch people playing chess, even with the knowledge a machine could beat them in no time" - loosely translated that one, but it is the best analogy I've seen so far. Cheers mate - keep up the good work - I'm off to prompt up some ridiculous loops for my sets🤟😄
@thebookofive
@thebookofive Месяц назад
>Drop a comment with your thoughts on this. Techbros will be the end of us all.
@ultimadum7785
@ultimadum7785 Месяц назад
I think techbros gonna tech no matter what, the real problem is the major label oligopoly getting huge dollar signs in their eyes after they realize they can no longer have the "burden" of paying AN ACTUAL HUMAN ARTIST to make music for them.
@samson7842
@samson7842 Месяц назад
They’ve always wanted to do this. Going back to the 2000’s. They hate how we can make one song and get paid in to perpetuity every time that song gets played or a copy is sold. I remember getting into huge arguments with the guy who owned Techdirt about it. I think his name was Mike Messniak or something like that. I stopped posting there because every time I’d dismantle one of his “music wants to be free” arguments, my posts would miraculously disappear. … lol Jokes on them, now. Because AI will be taking coding jobs away, too. They didn’t see that one coming.
@thebookofive
@thebookofive Месяц назад
@@samson7842 I like how the argument is framed around "music wants to be free", but totally disregards that the system isn't built for that. Personally, I don't have a gripe with ordinary people in tech (even if some of them like AI or capitalism too much), because at the end of the day they're a part of the working class as well, my problem is with the company CEOs and Execs who will not be affected and who are the ones actually benefiting from the whole thing
@ZestyKrisps
@ZestyKrisps Месяц назад
I think it works becuase you still mold it and see what "accidently" creates "art" the deeper meaning of art not just "music" as noise to sell.
@dodgerlohiss2517
@dodgerlohiss2517 Месяц назад
That’s a great video and quite opening. I am a big fan of the RU-vid show on BPM called E.Y.L and the new theme slaps and Dr Jared Ball said that was all A.I!You are absolutely right and it could lead to greater creativity for producers who decide to stick around.Being good enough doesn’t cut it and there are a ton of techniques out there from learning music theory other than western school,old school electronic techniques,using fx in innovative ways and so on.Honestly, I am optimistic although A.I will keep being and better.Great great topic!!🙏🏾🙏🏾
@ashtonsgotsauce9981
@ashtonsgotsauce9981 Месяц назад
remember when photography came around and expressionist/abstract work became the next big art movement? i feel like that a similar unintentional effect would happen with AI becoming more prominent in commercial art. unmistakably human art will become more popular. live performances? sculpting? thats me being as optimistic as possible while grounded in reality.
@flickwtchr
@flickwtchr 27 дней назад
Uh, "unmistakable human art" is being questioned on a daily basis.
@lustbubo4638
@lustbubo4638 Месяц назад
My question is how royalty free are the sounds REALLY? Can them or someone else at the end of the day be successful in suing if we make a hit?
@metadaat5791
@metadaat5791 28 дней назад
you're a legend :-) wish I could like this video more than once, especially the last part
@collins_channel8643
@collins_channel8643 Месяц назад
Great video man
@gezblair
@gezblair Месяц назад
One of the reasons I listen to music is it gives me a type of emotional connection to another human, that I will probably never meet, or could even be dead. AI, no matter how good it gets at mimicking (because that’s what it is doing, not creating) will never provide that connection.
@Dan-zw5po
@Dan-zw5po Месяц назад
At some point you won't be able to tell the difference between AI and human made music. What you might perceive as an emotional connection to the artist might just be an emotional connection to some software.
@mach489i
@mach489i Месяц назад
@@Dan-zw5po what is worng with you people. You have absolutely no fight. Your comment is basically, just roll over and surrender your humanity to the billionaire execs, that own this dogshit tech
@flickwtchr
@flickwtchr 27 дней назад
What if you have no idea whether it was generated by a human or AI? Without regulation, it will get so good there is no way we will be able to tell the difference in most circumstances listening to "new music".
@woodch
@woodch Месяц назад
I think this is a great tool for any musician stuck with writer's block. You throw some song ideas in there, maybe give it some genre hints, see what it spits out, and then use that as inspiration for your own song. It doesn't hurt that it can be loads of crazy fun to just mess with, too.
@raptor6053
@raptor6053 Месяц назад
Nah honestly, I don’t see listening to ai generated music will make me inspired or give me any new ideas or motivation
@lobotomyscam1051
@lobotomyscam1051 Месяц назад
nah
@SendyTheEndless
@SendyTheEndless Месяц назад
As someone who suffers writer's block from time to time, I realize that's simply my mind's way of telling me to refill the well. This march towards "more production" has to have an end point. The world doesn't need 900000000 new musics every day.
@sebp400
@sebp400 Месяц назад
@@raptor6053 I could play you band songs I generated last week to try Udio and they sound like real bands.
@raminbeatz
@raminbeatz Месяц назад
Why not just listen to real music in this case instead of this Ai shit? Where’s the benefit?
@TheElectroboy
@TheElectroboy 15 дней назад
I love your content. I got high halfway thru watching this off of the quality of your content alone
@vanessaadams3500
@vanessaadams3500 Месяц назад
Very well said...thanks for keep' n it 💯
@YoungFlav1
@YoungFlav1 Месяц назад
I like it, a creative person, this will make them more creative, but it's more to entertainment or being an artist than just music , aesthetics, passion, drive, stage presence, resilience, .....
@mrdarryljones1
@mrdarryljones1 Месяц назад
It’s not just AI that’s eliminating every “middle” everywhere. Insightful to say “ machines don’t need to make art”. Crazy video! 👍🏾
@TimWrightDJ
@TimWrightDJ Месяц назад
Regarding the class system, I'm a "lower class" artist. I came out of the music industry (as a producer) about 12 years ago but, during COVID, I returned to it, built a home studio I could only dream of (I had more disposable income since getting a "real job"), and started making music for fun and for myself. I've released several tracks and unofficial remixes over the past 4 years, one of which was signed to a great house label and even released on vinyl, and financially I made less than what I spent on getting the tracks mastered. As you say in the video, I'm one of those that makes music because it's something in me, and I enjoy doing it. This AI tool, and what will likely come next, will be something I utilise to create AI generated samples that I can use to split in a stem separation tool and then create the nu disco and disco-sampled house music I make, without worrying about artists suing me. I'm not a musician (although I'm learning) and this will give me sounds and ideas I can play with. Personally, I love it.
@MontyHicks
@MontyHicks Месяц назад
I LOVE your passion for music.
@Romelle81
@Romelle81 Месяц назад
It's endless boom bap and samples. I've been using it to remix different songs just for fun. Especially now with stem separation
@ShawnWhiteMusic
@ShawnWhiteMusic Месяц назад
Ngl that "jazzy hip hop" @ 1:57 sounds pretty good
@PiriakaTrackwrecker
@PiriakaTrackwrecker Месяц назад
Have a go at it, it nails pretty much any genre you wanna throw at it, from fingerpicking folk, through to UK Garage and Dnb. It's uncanny. The odd dud, but you can always regenerate it, and odds are it will have a good crack within a few attempts.
@viniwittke
@viniwittke 13 дней назад
Great insights. You made me more optimistic about the future of art =)
@AndrewDasilvaPLT
@AndrewDasilvaPLT Месяц назад
I've been playing with udio for a few weeks some of the things it has made is insane.
@mikescully6972
@mikescully6972 Месяц назад
Ai will never be able to duplicate my human imperfections , and my rhythms. Because my spontaneous random music comes from the heart, it may not be better for taste, but it comes to the satisfaction of the artist, are you willing to play music for free, or are you happy just throwing a musical message to the wind, I’m used to playing for free anyway
@rxgueplanet
@rxgueplanet Месяц назад
AI: Hold my beer.
@mikescully6972
@mikescully6972 Месяц назад
@@rxgueplanet wow now that’s original lol!
@the-engneer
@the-engneer Месяц назад
Same here. I've been making music almost 20 years and never made a dime. Actually have lost a lot of money on it. I don't care though because music is such a part of my life I couldn't quit if I wanted too. This is a tool that can easily be used for good or for nefarious reasons. We'll see what happens
@flickwtchr
@flickwtchr 27 дней назад
It will be able to mimic imperfections as well.
@pierrebroccoli.9396
@pierrebroccoli.9396 24 дня назад
@@mikescully6972 Being a Musician, it is my imperative to drink AI's beer if I am asked to hold it🤣
@z33r0now3
@z33r0now3 Месяц назад
I like to cook because I like the process of it. This is like ordering junk food. I am in IT and have to work with AI and I don’t like it. I stay with my Maschine Studio and the workflow that suits me. I don’t care if none ever hears anything I do. AI art is a race to mediocrity and I mean worse than what we already have.
@diggingthegreats
@diggingthegreats Месяц назад
Great perspective 💯
@basedmerf
@basedmerf Месяц назад
I started uploading 3x pers week last January. In the past year my hobby of making beats gradually started to make up more of my income. Looks like by next year it might be back to being fully a hobby again 😬. Mad timing, however i made beats before and i made beats after. Will just need to shift gears. In some sense greatful I didn’t get to the point i had more to lose before the ai stuff reached this point. Interesting time to be alive either way. Great video as always 🧡
@williamgeorge2580
@williamgeorge2580 Месяц назад
Aye. I've been saying all of this to my peers in the comic book/ nerd art fields and they've been absolutely refusing to listen. I'm glad someone in a different medium has seen what's happening and the shape of the road ahead. My departure point from you is that I'm pretty sure the tools will get good enough that no amount of levelling up will allow the "lower class" to compete for the few dollars still flowing around.
@Guacamole1000
@Guacamole1000 Месяц назад
tbh the AI songs sounded really low fidelity like RU-vid videos uploaded in 2008 low bitrate type stuff. Not to say it isn’t still nuts that it can create whole songs out of natural language prompts, but I would never put that on even as “background” music. There’s too much other music in the world already available for free on the internet to listen to for me to want to sit down and listen to anything AI generated. Now if we’re talking AI generated crate digging ie, “Jazz song from the 1970s with soulful lyrics” and then chop that up for a royalty free foundation to a hip hop song that you produce the rest of, that could get interesting. Regardless, really cool video. What a weird time to be alive. People have been saying that forever but technology is actually mind blowing rn.
@pierrebroccoli.9396
@pierrebroccoli.9396 24 дня назад
Even crate diving some 70's "Loft Classics" Disco would be great for chopping up. The instrumentation and improvisation was great.👍
@johnqpublic4662
@johnqpublic4662 Месяц назад
This is what is known as a “pastiche.” Talented musicians can make a pastiche of almost any style. But none of them would confuse this with creative work.
@krusher74
@krusher74 Месяц назад
you massivly underestimate this.
@justinjones2595
@justinjones2595 Месяц назад
Appreciate your thoughts on AI as well
@tmbarral664
@tmbarral664 Месяц назад
that's the channel for me. So, so true. Brilliant job. again. ;)
@pixelrancher
@pixelrancher Месяц назад
Uh-oh.
@DJSlaughter
@DJSlaughter Месяц назад
As a producer who's moving away from beat making to more old school style production, I could look at this as this being my studio musician. However, at the same time I will feel so guilty for using AI. I will feel like a fraud. I don't know if I'm comfortable using this even though I see this helping me out a lot. But at the same time I like collaborating with people. For the first time I'm on the fence about AI and music
@PrincePresto1
@PrincePresto1 Месяц назад
Thank you for you deep dive digging 🤘🎧🤘
@nicolesherman8974
@nicolesherman8974 Месяц назад
Digging the Greats Friday… need something to watch lol 🔥🔥
@jayqsamo
@jayqsamo Месяц назад
This is such quality content. Scary af too. I hope A.i never gets to this level.
@barnoslat5632
@barnoslat5632 Месяц назад
It’s already there lmao, this is a video doing this it’s not fake
@JasonTopo
@JasonTopo Месяц назад
I love the message of this video. This year I've found myself uninspired and unable to make music and with all of these AI tools popping up and what you said about the artistic middle class disappearing, I've realized that my dream of making a living off of my music is impossible. Regardless of that, I'm glad to see there's a lot of people willing to push for actual human-made art rather than lazy AI-generated art.
@KirtanFi
@KirtanFi Месяц назад
Great video thanks man! ❤
@vas8203
@vas8203 Месяц назад
The neo soul rough on was actually crazy trippy in a good way lol
@gaysasuke5618
@gaysasuke5618 Месяц назад
Ignore these idiots telling you to delete the content because its Ai, we need to be informed and you're the perfect person to tell us. Silencing a voice is never the answer, we must enter the abyss lest it swallow us whole.
@TeagueChrystie
@TeagueChrystie Месяц назад
I'm saying delete the walkthroughs and product demos. We can talk about AI - I agree with you: we must, it's the approaching abyss - but that doesn't mean we have to comply with it in advance.
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 7 дней назад
fr no cap well we got know because that news bad or good it's news tbh
@ItsDeniseRenee
@ItsDeniseRenee Месяц назад
As a creative (I’m a writer and a musician) I think the opportunity for us in the face of AI is to develop our audience and, to take it one step further, a community. The beauty about today is that with the tools available to us, such as Patreon or RU-vid memberships, you truly don’t need millions of people purchasing your album when it drops. Just a few hundred people supporting you with a five or $10 membership every month can help you create a sustainable income based on doing what you love. The truly human skill to get good at now is building an audience.
@flickwtchr
@flickwtchr 27 дней назад
How pathetic this is what millions have been reduced to by just a tiny fraction of people on the planet who develop this tech.
@Nickgulley
@Nickgulley Месяц назад
Keep digging!
@imphetamine
@imphetamine 21 день назад
Yo don't stop won't stop u gotta keep pumping, even AI said it doesn't understand feelings and thats monumental in connecting with yo peeps!
@analog-dEVA
@analog-dEVA Месяц назад
I recently got a channel suggestion where it turned hip hop songs into 70s "classics" using AI...F*CKED ME UP!!!!!!! Definitely needed this perspective to validate the thoughts I've been having. It's a moral dilemma for me...
@Knick_Fury
@Knick_Fury Месяц назад
Same here…my tl started suggesting these AI songs recently …the first time I encountered one, it took me a minute to figure it out…a 70’s soul tune…the lyrics were somewhere between cringe and offensive, which was the first clue and then the “cover art” failed on closer inspection. Afterwards, I started noticing even more of these fakes showing in the suggestions. What concerns me is why…I think we’re starting to get too dismissive of “the algorithm” as being JUST an “echo chamber”…when considering the possibility of something more intentional and manipulative, the combination of “the algorithm” and this particular type of AI is problematic.
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 7 дней назад
@@Knick_Fury well dam no cap
@j.wright5918
@j.wright5918 Месяц назад
Every time you walk in a McDonald’s and they say the ice cream machine is down just know ai wouldn’t do that to you. Hahahaha
@vega1925
@vega1925 Месяц назад
Great stuff mang
@Remember-Death
@Remember-Death Месяц назад
1:56 - Not gonna lie, that "Jazzy Hip Hop" made my mouth drop wide open.
@the-engneer
@the-engneer Месяц назад
Lets be real. Artists have always got the short end of the stick, and this pours salt in the wounds of already starving artist's. The silver lining will be the request for live music
@kattphatt
@kattphatt Месяц назад
As a parent this is amazing for making great nursery rhymes and custom tunes for my daughter :'), random but try it
@user-me8ye5gh8w
@user-me8ye5gh8w Месяц назад
Hah! I love that!
@pierrebroccoli.9396
@pierrebroccoli.9396 24 дня назад
@@user-me8ye5gh8w Will it put The Wiggles out of business?
@SayceBuckleyFreak
@SayceBuckleyFreak Месяц назад
great video ! great presentation !
@thatguysince1974
@thatguysince1974 Месяц назад
sir...starting at 11:20...you're speaking directly to me. i needed this today. thanks.
@theonlycaamz
@theonlycaamz Месяц назад
common digging the greats w
@mach489i
@mach489i Месяц назад
AI music is the equivelant to a resturant customer ordering a meal and claiming that they are the chef that cooked it. Basically this applies to AI generated anyjthing
@MattnUska
@MattnUska Месяц назад
You said exactly what I have been thinking. I let my musical skills slack for several years but have been diligently working on them again. AI can regurgitate what we created in the past but it will never make something new. There will be plenty of people that will reject AI art. Those are the people that will be our audience. The mainstream has never cared about artists. We have to create for ourselves and music lovers. Not for people that passively listen to music.
@KDRusha
@KDRusha Месяц назад
Bro sampling is about to take a HUGE leap for me once I figure this out
@sovietshooter9947
@sovietshooter9947 Месяц назад
As soon as the technology like "Serato Stems" came along a couple years ago, I said that when it comes to hiphop, AI could be extremely useful in bringing back the "old school" sampling style that went away in the late 90s as clearing samples and all that became the norm, and extremely expensive. You somewhat illustrated that in this video - if I can work an AI prompt to give me something that sounds like a classic George Clinton song (for example), I can sample that, and not have to worry about clearing a sample with all the folks involved. I don't have to straight up use what AI generates, I can take what AI generates, and chop it up and bend it to how I see fit. This would be the digital equivalent of what Daft Punk has done, where they have musicians like Nile Rodgers or Chilly Gonzales go in the studio, freestyle on their instrument, and then chopping up what they recorded to make "Get Lucky" or whatever. Now, I can just put in a prompt that gets me that sound, and I can do what I want with it.
@gezblair
@gezblair Месяц назад
Using AI to augment human creativity, not replace it, does seem like our best choice here.
@lartisan6274
@lartisan6274 Месяц назад
if IA can make " George Clinton style " that mean IA scan , learn ( stole )all discography of George for make " Beat style ". Is it legal ?
@MakeSomeNoiseAgencyPlaylists
@MakeSomeNoiseAgencyPlaylists Месяц назад
only the SP 1200 can do that and practising for 5 years....
@gfdggdfgdgf
@gfdggdfgdgf Месяц назад
I'd say Udio is even more impressive than the image generators. Incredibly good at the first version already and it will only get better. And similar to how I feel about image generators, use it as a tool/starting point but not as an end product.
@TraxtasyMedia
@TraxtasyMedia Месяц назад
great that you dig in the topic of AI music generating tools. I recently tested Suno and gave it the prompt to "create" me certain song in a certain genre and it pulled out a song very well leaned towards what I typed into it, so far so good, but when it comes down to mixing, it just gets even worse, due to the fact that it splashes the frequency ranges together and just sounds awkward. So if you seperate the audio tracks to stems there's a big chance that a filter ruins this completely. I had a song commision done by AI and I am tasked to do a well mixdown for this person, so here's my problem: my avaliable tools can't erase the filter used in the vocals to render a clean drum mix. I mean for insparational tasks like having a solid worked out drum sample or bass guitar sample, it works awesome, everything above gets really bad. So my opinion on this: don't prompt an AI to write a hit for you, it won't, because you'll have more work decompiling and analysing this thing deeper, than any rabbit hole, that exists on net.
@slipbeat
@slipbeat Месяц назад
20 hours total for just you, or 20 man-hours including your buddy Ace and some other folks (including any images or sounds you license from sites that provide that)? Are you a one man show for every component of these videos other than handmade text? If so, that's truly astonishing. I'm not trying to audit you, I just want to know how impressed to be. Thanks for the free content, been watching these from the start and I'm stoked your channel is blowing up so fast. Inspiring.
@lairabiewer5946
@lairabiewer5946 Месяц назад
This video needs to get out there, AI art is not art. The digitization of media could possibly ruin art for everyone, and ai is only aiding it.
@diggingthegreats
@diggingthegreats Месяц назад
The “is this good or ethical” is another conversation that I could talk about for a long time. I also don’t think that argument is going to change anything unfortunately. It’s here and it’s passably good and we’re gonna see it everywhere 🤦‍♂️
@TeagueChrystie
@TeagueChrystie Месяц назад
​​​​@@diggingthegreats Is it good or ethical? We can talk about that another time. First a product demo!
@leondll7245
@leondll7245 Месяц назад
Here before the hate mob
@natatk1570
@natatk1570 Месяц назад
Not quite 😅
@mach489i
@mach489i Месяц назад
Hate mob you wished. Only dipshit tech bros are enthused by AI
@postmanpogger
@postmanpogger Месяц назад
Thank you, dude
@joannalewis5279
@joannalewis5279 23 дня назад
Brilliant take
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