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So is the "air too pure" thing - there's an English court judgement that uses exactly that phrasing from 17-something to justify that any slaves on board a ship (anyone's ship) in English waters (this was technically before the formation of the UK) was automatically free, whatever the law said elsewhere, or however the ex-slave got there.

Like I said, well done. Excellent writing.

Thanks, I wondered what the H3LL that was aboot.

@@jonathanj8303 Sort of, it is attributed to Lord Justice Mansfield who ruled in 1772 that a slave brought to England could not be removed from the country by his owner. That case did not actually say that any slave who breathed English air was free. While it did not ban slavery it was a significant ruling that strengthened the movement for the abolition of slavery. It may have been said by someone else during the trial. The news report of the time contains this part of Mansfield's ruling: "The state of slavery is of such a nature, that it is incapable of now being introduced by Courts of Justice upon mere reasoning or inferences from any principles, natural or political; it must take its rise from positive law; the origin of it can in no country or age be traced back to any other source: immemorial usage preserves the memory of positive law long after all traces of the occasion; reason, authority, and time of its introduction are lost; and in a case so odious as the condition of slaves must be taken strictly, the power claimed by this return was never in use here; no master ever was allowed here to take a slave by force to be sold abroad because he had deserted from his service, or for any other reason whatever; we cannot say the cause set forth by this return is allowed or approved of by the laws of this kingdom, therefore the black must be discharged."

Didn’t they also find that midish ocean island where they processed and sold slaves. And then proceeded to blow it the fuck up with canon fire.

We are a stubborn lot. Stubborn enough we literally ran a few species to extinction.

I do believe those are paraphrasing Lord Mansfield when he was celebrating the case of Somerset v Stuart

​@@ArticWolfvUnfortunately , england didn't enforce this law in 53 , when the saudi arabians came to england and brought slaves with them. For the inauguration of the queen.

@@maxxcarver5502 "Unfortunately , england didn't enforce this law in 53" so you are here NOT to throw mud at the muslims that use slaves now and used to hunt for slaves and western countries had to wage the barbary wars to get them to stop you are here to throw mud at one of the countries that shed blood in those wars to STOP slavery yep, that tells us what your agenda is

which is ironic given how england profited greatly from slave trade

Hopefully that changes....

No 😢

Sadly

Dang, I was hoping for a part 2.

​@@johnruckman2320Why are you hoping for only part 2? If I have to hope for something, it better be for part 2 to 99.

All the best beings are

@@EoinKeithBoyle65536 😂 I don't really want to disagree

Yes yes It is Prrrrfict!

bad enough if someone try hold one fluffy species as slave.. woe if one try hold more then one species classed as 'fluffy' as slave ;)

And she had nothing to wear for dinner ... that's unfortunate, or is it?

Because it's the peak of throwing rocks.😂

but why though loop started

Aleis-Holy shit that was funny… thanks for the laugh

" - That's not, how physics work! - I know, but for some reason, it does work. We just go with it."

"We're flying around on 4 wormholes???" "oh no, it's hundreds of times worse than that." 🤣

"Empty thy pantaloons!" *stabs you*

The only thing a good sir would do

Gives command to change the flag and alerts the higher ups ""I'm about to start a war""

"Chi Haaa you shit!!"

Sounds like the British way of doing things

There is a great SiFi book called "The Excalibur Alternative" that has a 14th-century English army abducted by aliens and the resulting results of introducing a group of fighting Brits to the galaxy.

@@rogerthomas7040 Sounds interesting, i think i shall have to go find this book, could be full if giggles. Thanks

@@rogerthomas7040 There is actually an earlier book with a similar story, High Crusade by Poul Anderson published in 1960. I read that quite a while back and remembered the plot. Not sure if Drake had read that or a separate evolution but sounds like the same core plot. Had me in stitches the over the top British gent, but with a few good references to English/British history including the historical Lord Mansfield declaration that forbade slavery in England itself. Pity even this long in the future we're still losing to India at cricket through. :(

Likewise.

And as he drinks his tea non pulsed, he tuts at his Yankee comrad for his well meaning but undignified mannerisms.

If you havent heard of it already, I highly recommend the "Deathworlders" series that starts with "The Kevin Jenkins Experience" There isnt any freeing of slaves but there is humanity spreading out into the stars while being OP

Yeah, gotta love that through all this insanity, the last punch is.. The captain is a furry.

@@stephenstonge7968 No. The captain is a cat lover.

I guess she'll have to wear nothing at all...😆... the kitty will be bare. Maybe after desert ol' Dickie will give her the good petting she's been longing for. I wonder, will she purr at his touch?

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We all love "Yogurt"

@@mr.robinson1982 Even with strawberries?

@@david2869 That was the Jam!

​@@david2869Especially with strawberries. But, did you comb the desert?

Yeah the US and UK were quite dogged in their pursuits against slavery. Jolly good show that was

@@mileselon1339 And yet they still get all of the blame despite being the ones who finally put a stop to it. Really shows how much we appreciate those who bring about change..

@@trainknut Hey, stupid people are ones that talk the loudest. They never narrow things down. Stupid people always say this general populace is to blame but this one isn't, and often justify it for a mountain out of a mole hill of reasons! At the end of the day, our two nations were the first to push back, and we were both the first to win that war.

​@trainknut it's targeted to demoralise the USA and UK, its not an accident this has reared up around the same time as other nations have become rising stars

​@@trainknut I'm pretty sure the other person's comment is ironic. The UK does NOT have a particularly praiseworthy history regarding slavery. You should look into it, so as not to make a fool of yourself again in the future. And just the claim that they were the first alone is enough to tell you've gotten your version of history from the patriotic propaganda taught in every nation's schools and have never questioned it.

Agreed!

I enthusiastically second that. or as my teen niece put it, More pleEeEeeeEease! (said loudly in a wavering pleading voice)

Angular momentum would be lost when projectiles are shot, though might increase projectile speed. Interesting

@@julius_trifinity Ya, firing when the weapon is in the part of its "orbit" where it is essentially moving straight at the target would eliminate.... I've just read your comment again and realized that I misread it, thinking you were worried about the momentum of the weapon would impart undesired momentum to the projectile. lol

Overly complex, the machinery required to keep those compartments spinning would take up a good deal of internal volume. Displacement would not be such an issue in space as it is on Earth, but internal volume would still be a vital, and limited resource for warships in space as it is on warships on Earth today. You only have so much of it, and you have to use all that internal volume in the most efficient manner possible. Would be easier to keep the weapons static, and simply rotate the ship itself.....

@@alganhar1 WTF are you talking about? You don't need machinery to spin a ship in space/ Once it starts spinning, you don't even need more energy to keep spinning... Ah, I see, you read what I wrote, imagined I said something I didn't and then proposed that instead of what I said, do exactly what I said.

Royal Navy ships counted as English/British soil so when they were anchored in West Indian ports slaves would swim out to the ships, where they could climb on board and ask to sign on to the ships crew as free men. West Indian sailors are depicted on the base of Nelsons column in Trafalgar Square, as a result of this method of joining the Navy.

The landscape is nice

​@@godhimself478Man will live in literal hell and say "The landscape looks nice, tho!"

Any sufficiently large engine is indistinguishable from a big gun.

@@NeneExists Kind of reminds me of the Planet Killer in STO.

Old bean is actually a term of indifferent friendliness.

Only about 2-3km I would say. Of course the ship of the line would be somewhat larger. ;) In reality I would suspect that if we ever get around to interstellar travel many ships would be a lot larger than that. However the description of the ship's power system and the way it went into combat made for something original, which is another great point in the story.

​@@stephenpickering8063oh i wouldn't be do sure about that size question. Sure, colonization ships will probably be about the size of this frigate, because it will have to house the colonists, supplies and all the hardware they will need in the first months or years. But other ships? Especially warships? I don't really see any reason for them to be this big, unless the technology would require it as in this case. But as with everything in our tech we will pursue maximum miniaturization to keep the cost low. The ships we will take to the stars wont be bigger than necessary.

@@jakubw.2779 It would depend on how technology worked out to a degree but to maintain a substantial warship in operation for a period of time, especially away from bases would require a lot of resources. You need all that the crew requires to survive as well as some other facilities for their morale to stay high plus whatever armour and weaponry along with most of all propulsion. Some form of warp drive may be fairly simple size and energy wise but for travel inside a system you would need both power plants and mass to expel, unless you found a way around the general laws of motion. As such as for large ships, say cruisers and higher, I would suspect that the ~1km length size would be pretty much a minimum unless a hell of a lot of issues are solved.

@@stephenpickering8063 that's what i'm talking about. And besides ship based weaponry is already automated, so i would expect even more automation. It's all coming down to power plant and propulsion which probably will take a bulk of space on a ship, but we already have small nuclear reactors, the size of a bus or maybe bit bigger and current tokamaks/fusion reactors aren't as big that would require kilometer ships, for obvious reasons i can really tell how big the ftl drives will be. But i can bet that they will go through the inevitable process of miniaturization. Only thing that's really uncertain is crew, but if it will be strictly a warship and given they will rather move in fleets or at least groups than in singular manner, unless it's an emergency, so only minimal autonomy would be needed the crew for a theoretical cruiser would be similar to today's cruisers, that is about 300 members. Well there's also a gravity factor i almost forgot, so if we wouldn't be able to generate artificial gravity and would be forced to using acceleration as a form of keeping things "on the ground" then only additional accommodation for crews would be better and bigger gyms to fight the effects of zero gravity on our bodies. That is if we're actually able to survive few months without gravity without severe damages to our bodies and brains, because that's also not yet confirmed .

​@@jakubw.2779the propulsion system appears to require the ships be that large

I agree 👍

Search "Removing Socks with a Rocket Launcher", a mad lad called Colin Furze actually did it :D

I dont really understand it

Light novels be like

Royal Navy 🇬🇧

I've asked the author if he wants to because this story was so good. He's going to get back to me.

@@scifistories1977 Eool, thanx for letting me know.

Baldric, this ratatouille....