Aircraft Crashes into Lake Tahoe waters | Both occupants survived! 

INTEL12 is actually a firefighting intelligence aircraft, designed to spot and track wildfires in California. It's funded by the California Office of Emergency Services and administered by Orange County Fire Authority. It's a Beechcraft 200 King Air.

what are the odds! amazing video

Great job Victor!

​​@@chrisszelugaDoes that model of aircraft usually have radar? Seems like radar wouldn't be necessary for fire spotting, but maybe it's standard equipment or used for another purpose?

Fantastic! Glad they survived - that was some excellent flying. Does that aircraft have retractable landing gear? it didn't look like he had it down, which likely kept it from cartwheeling. (Hard to tell if it did flip.) What awesome work by everyone involved! Thanks Connick and Victor for putting this together. When did this happen?

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It’s going to go and do the rounds on the internet. Go sell the license to a viral place and get a bit of money for it before people steal it.

What was the date it happened?

@@almatheyung July 1st, 2023

@@OfficialSamuelCthat is great advice. I have sold video to major national media. Helps with gas money. Copyright. “No use without expressed written consent”

Kudos!?

He was great!

Tell him to reach me by email

They all did a great job.

Your brother is a beast! You can thank him from all of us. In the end we're all family and everyone did one hell of a job.

Even better is that INTEL12 is a signal intelligence ISR variant of the King Air equipped with a FLIR 380-HDC infrared spotting camera and a Overwatch TK-9 multispectral payload designed to circle over areas for long durations when tracking wildfires. Couldn't have a better spotter if they tried!

If this was going to happen this is the best time of year (and day) for it to happen. Water not too cold and plenty of people out on the lake.

Yeah water is tricky, definitely could have floated it out a bit longer all the way to stall. Everyone should probably go get their Single Engine Seaplane rating if they can afford it. Plus seaplane are super fun too :) Same with acrobatic planes, super fun and very good to practice real life stall spins :) Blue Sky’s everyone!

@@lyingcat9022 I'm not a pilot, so will reserve judgement.

Water was pretty smooth, so they probably had no sense of altitude and didn’t know when to flare. I know that’s an issue for seaplane pilots sometimes.

What if you can't swim...

@@bardo0007 You'll have to learn on the fly...

If you gotta hit the water, aim near a marina on a summer holiday weekend!

And DTSB, too.

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Would love to see @ClearedDirect do a video (interview) with this pilot since he has personal experience putting a Bonanza in the water...

"What examiners will be looking at.....": I imagine "examiners" tune in to find out what they should be looking for. 🤣🤣

I disagree. His angle of attack and speed looked steady to me and there was no pre-stall wing rocking. He just never flared. It can be very difficult to judge one’s height above the water with no nearby visual cues.

Yea, and I think for that reason most POH recommend to not flare but instead fly it gracefully into the water.

I love it. We gonna be in THE Tar hoe !

Near the shore in Rubicon bay. One of the few places on the lake where it's not super deep.

​@@NelsonBrownso they might even be able to get the plane up before too much avgas leaks out?

@@RowanHawkins - I have no idea. One of the boaters that picked them out of the water said the wings separated from the fuselage, so my guess would be that the fuel leaked out very quickly.

Any landing you can swim away from?

@@davedarling4316 Still a "good" landing!

@@davedarling4316 "If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing." - Charles Elwood "Chuck" Yeager

Captain Sullenburger is probably watching and thinking "Good effort son, well done..."

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LOL

Surely you jest.

@@martygraw9708 Don't call me Shirley

Not sure what distances you were covering by in my GA time we had them but didn't wear them. Too hot so we'd climb higher to where you can glide to the closest coast and drop the temp. Very lucky indeed with the boats, well done to them. In Northern Australia/PNG in coastal areas hypothermia wasn't a concerm given the crocs are thick in those waters.

A few years ago I went to a wedding in Lake Tahoe on July 4 weekend. I was prepared to rent a boat and do some swimming. Got there and couldn't believe how chilly it was! Not a body of water I'd want to doggie-paddle in for too long.

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@@tdkeyes1 aka "Long Pig"

Where are you in Kazakhstan??? My wife is from Korday!

20C sounds warm to me, but Canadian water is often very cold.

Apparently it's hard to judge how far you are from the water surface if it's a large body of water.

Water is extremely unforgiving. Grabs you then turns to concrete.

there is a lot of drag and a lot of momentum. So the bottom front/mid of the craft touches first, stops and the upper plane structure pivots on the new CG. If the pilot comitted to the ditch earlier they might have had energy for a flared landing which is what Sully did by sticking the aft fuselage in the water first. killing and feathering the prop may have helped reduce drag too since a spinning prop not making power creates a drag disc. But its a lot to think about. I'm glad that ATC is now telling pilots they are emergency aircraft to get the pilot into the correct mindset, though I don't know why the pilot was making for an airport they couldn't reach instead of staying closer to shore.

Looks like they're going to have to do more practice ditching in a large body of water 🙄 Note that Lake Tahoe is very deep and wide and is probably more similar to landing on the ocean than in the Hudson (1600 feet deep vs. 50 feet deep)

Indeed ;) and definitely a 8/10 belly flop… it could have been harder so I can’t give a 10/10

It may help coordinate aircraft fighting the fire if no ground based radar is available.

Could maybe be useful when there is a lot of smoke in the air.

Are you sure they have airborne intercept radar and not just ads-b in?

Used by the Army. Medium Altitude Reconnaissance and Surveillance System (MARSS) aircraft. MARSS aircraft are quick reaction capability assets supporting the U.S. Army’s requirement for aerial intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance. MARSS delivers imagery and signals intelligence data directly to the warfighter.

@@SeligTiles In other words, infantry man's AWACS. Correct? :-)

Could also be hard to gauge where the water is when it’s so calm. It did look like there was some wake from ships in the area so that might not have been a factor tho. It could always be a simple misjudgment as I’m sure that was a very novel scenario to those on board.

Same exact thought and question I had. Went and googled, Did Sully flare? The answer is yes but beware of the rabbit hole that lies beyond with that search. No idea on a smaller plane like this and hope someone knows and shares.

@@joshnaudi Yes, each plane has an optimum ditching angle. I think in the A320 it was between 10º and 12º nose up, mostly because of the engines. Other airplanes might have a different one, so I don't know about this one...

@@javiTests For something like a Bonanza I highly doubt anyone has done the studies to figure that out.

@@MillionFoul I think the manufacturer should know about it and tell the pilots, right? But I guess general aviation is different that commercial, so maybe not, I don't know...

I think it’s a lot less than that. We estimated it to be between 100-500 feet down by just comparing a topographic map of the lake with the coordinates of the crash. Still no easy feat. Last I saw, there are plans to recover the aircraft but who knows when or how long it’ll take.

@@RandomRandomProjects I figured that it wasn't going to be 1,600 feet because they only appeared to be a mile or so offshore.

Better than drilling a hole into it

Exactly they could have been closer to shore when ditching. But neither of us know what the water surface was like that day. Though modern roadways have lots of obstacles you would be better off with a gear up in a soft field.

Tahoe only has a couple sandy beaches across the entire rim of the lake. The rest of the rim is almost entirely boulders. Plus it's a huge lake, so it's possible that ditching along the shore could go mostly unseen. I think they played this out almost perfectly by ditching near a bunch of boats even if it wasn't close to shore.

I doubt they had much practice!😁😁😁

The paving leaves much to be desired though ...

The Bonanza is a slippery plane and has a higher stall speed and landing speed then many other small GA aircraft. It appears the pilot flew it all the way to the scene of the crash.

Water is tricky to land on if you haven’t trained on seaplanes. Difficult to gauge your height above the water. He probably had enough airspeed to pull up and float out a lot of speed just before kissing the surface. But trying to nail that you’re first time with your life on the line…? Not easy in the least. Also would have liked to see glide her a little closer to shore but he was reasonably close to some boats so that’s also good. If that’s what he was aiming for.

DA!