Akai Force is now UNSTOPPABLE 

It’s a really good addition!

that would be awesome, really hope they bring that over

Been waiting a very hot minute on that lol

@@TheSakuraGumiLTD true!

I think it’s in the new MPC One +

No

Heck yeah! Thank you for subscribing, good on you for juggling all that at once, I’m glad I could help inspire!

Subscribing too. Also a dad. After kids are asleep I'm up til 3.or 4 am nearly everyday on the force. Come very far in a year. But still loads to learn

Definitely a fair ask!

It seems like all of them end up on the force but it’s definitely fair to want a guarantee

make the switch. i did. i mean, i DID keep the MPC One for now, but i've been thinking of ditching even my Deluge since the Force can do it all. Unless you are a big user of the MPC software, don't hesitate. It really is huge though. My take on Akai is that they are really pushing to get out of the niche beat-maker scene (big as it is). Their involvement in developing the Push paved the way, a brief time when the Force SEEMED like abandonware, but then a steady obvious commitment to it and their plugins. I agree that it's the single best flagship, and I strongly believe that Akai is committed, NEEDS IT to increase it's market share with a common platform.

Your already missing out on all the cool features the Force has over the MPC by not switching platforms...all because you you don't want to miss out on something cool the MPC might get which will end up in the Force most likely. That way of logic sounds kinda strange when you stop & think about it.

Link is in description under gear stand 🙏🫡😊

Really depends on the metrics you’re evaluating against

Congrats! The force rules!

Always thought about getting the MPC One, can you please explain why you feel the force is an upgrade ?

@@elevatewithmettavijnana6170 ok so first, mpc line still does not have disk streaming. As the lines converge, it’s reasonable to assume that it will eventually get it, but it may also be a technical limitation or akai just might not want to give it disk streaming. So it has to load everything into ram memory, whereas the Force can stream audio off the card or hard drive (mpc one doesnt even have hard drive option anyway). This kills the mpc line for certain highly visible use cases, like DJ'ing, even at home, or worse, using a long streaming sample as an audio track, since both lines only have 8 audio tracks. MPC just doesn't deal with long samples well which sucks, and I mean hard. Beyond that is the way music works in general. We have scales and measures, and we make songs by arranging these once we have song fragments built: verse, chorus, etc, but also elements we may want to flip to dynamically like a drop, or variations of those elements, or even just variations of, say, the hi-hat part, within one of those elements. Even if the mpc line gets everything the force does, the force’s arranger mode, hardware and workflow work naturally to build songs, and I don't mean just songs. I mean everything beyond the beat that it takes to make a song, even simple cases where you want to make and use small phrase sequences freely an interchangeably with ease. If you want to be the next NWA, MPC is for that. If you want anything more complex than that, Force is. You know how our number system is base 10 but in like computer science it’s base 8? Ummm yeah, you CAN convert between them, but our brains are not up to the task. It’s a mind fuck really. So it is with the akai lines. MPC is base 8, while the force is base 10. But base 8 is better for making beats. Get it? That's no small thing, it's just that the Force's base 10 is more intuitive, better, at everything else. I love making beats on the mpc but I DON'T love making beats on the force. But for everything else, the force is just natural. The second I saw the arranger mode working on the force and interacted with it with the grid and touchscreen, I was instantly converted. I still do have that mpc one though. I have a ton of gear, but the both lines are better than the competition so it’s hard to fully switch and not justify both. If there was one piece of gear I had to choose it’s the force. If there was one piece of gear I had to choose and I didn’t have much cash and I just wanted a groove box and make some beats it’s the mpc one (over live because of cost). Final thing is mpc integrated with the mpc software. It can do a lot, but there’s a reason it never shows up on best daw list. Akai co-made the ableton push 1 for ableton. They then made the akai force which can be standalone, but can also control ableton albeit not without hiccups. But it can do it way better than mpc. Because of that, I can standalone with akai force, then migrate to ableton to continue the song on ableton daw while still using the force to control the daw much easier than with mpc, because while mpc can export stems, anything else just isn’t natural. Very simply, if you A/B the 2 lines, you will instantly gravitate towards an mpc and feel cool (I mean inspired) making beats, but day 2 (I mean, eventually) when you’ve got things sorted out and you want to start making some songs, you’ll look over at the force. Both are better than anything we've had in the past, way better than anything a few years ago (I don't do Maschine past mk2, but I do Roland, Elektron, Deluge). MPC One is amazing value for money and it can do so, so much, way more than anything else as it is, and slays as a beatbox. Akai Force just takes it to the next level, so productive, the single most important piece of gear ATM IMO, will be the tool and inspiration to anyone to build up from a demo to a releasable piece of work that you will be proud of.

@@alexwestconsulting And that comment is the reason the music production community is one of the best on internet :) I have been tracking these hardwares for 2-3 years now, was too busy to make the jump into beat making. your comment just saved me so much time and it is very well elaborated :) thank you for that. I think the conclusion for me would be to follow my gut and experiment with MPC Live or the one for a bit and later on transit to the force when im "readier" to make full songs. Right now, I just feel like experimenting, sampling having fun etc. it makes total sense to go with the simpler workflow of the MPC for that.

@@elevatewithmettavijnana6170 totally and i still love mpc. This coming black fri is day that many many akai users have been waiting, holding out, to get opx4 on sale. It’s presumed it will be. Sonically it will open a lot of doors for both lines. Maybe decide by then because reg price on opx4 is too high. And get a used mpc one. Tons of them out there. I got mine for $540 usd locally.

I hope they add more time signatures, a lot of people want those

hey - sorry for my ignorance, if you can make clips of the length you want, why do you need to be able to set the time signature?

@@RobertoFrobs because the Force is also working in arranger mode. And there you need a time signature function as you need it in any other DAW

Thank you!! 🙏

It really is

Never said it was free

@@DylanParisMusic never said it didn't as well. Listen to your first two minutes. You give the impression that these new sound and plugins are a part of the Akai Force - and they are not. They don't come with the Force out of the box. You have to PAY for them in addition to what you pay for the Force itself

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It doesn't support the VST format but it does have it's own internal plugins. You can use a usb drive or an internal drive via the 2.5 inch sata bay.

@@DylanParisMusic But does it recognize hardware synth like Virus Ti2 desktop? as in it will have each of the 16 midi channel per Track?

They totally are- this last firmware update just brought the force up to Parity with the MPC series.

The X, Live, One, have been getting all the attention from Akai, and the Force was the neglected ugly duckling until quite recently, and has now caught up and is arguably surpassing the MPC stuff, I mean Disc streaming for example, surely that will come to the MPC's, But When?

Only the Akai Plugins that are designed for the force and MPC Standalone lines

It has some cpu and ram limitations, but when used in controller mode, there's more efficiency and resources.

@@s.gharavi1614 couldn't use the mpc one with ableton when I had it

Agreed on those missing features, I’ve let Akai directly know how much we need the auto fade in and out to stop pops

@@DylanParisMusic That's very nice of you, thanks :)

Not sure! The knobs have a lot of functionality and the screen can show mixer while the pads show launch stuff so that helps too

@@DylanParisMusic Yeah looks like you can build an engaging performance with the live mixing tools on board. Mute solo filter functions etc Have u used the audio looper?

@@DespairQuietlyPlease I haven't but I don't really use audio loopers in general. Especially cause you can just have multiple tracks of audio and record adjacent clips I don't need to loop into a static single recording

EZBOT!! The legend!!! ❤️🙌😎🙏

@@DylanParisMusic 🥰

Thank you so much!

Yep! You have to enable multi input monitoring / recording but with that on you could do that

@@DylanParisMusic no loss of quality for the effects?

I’m not sure I understand the question

@@DylanParisMusic if I play live the effects work on the fly like if I recorded, with no crushes or less quality?

I don’t think there’s a software counterpart like for the MPC but you can export stems and finish tracks in any DAW of your choice

Thank you! And agreed!

I am looking at the Force for a live looping system, but I am still not convinced it has enough real time composition abilities. There is no time to menu dive on stage. Everything must be one button away.

Thank you 🙌😎

If the Deluge had a better screen (which I hear is now available, but not sure how useful it is or not) I would say stick with the Deluge. I sold my Deluge for a Syntakt because of the screen and how useful Overbridge is, and I still have a Force that I have had since it first launched - which gets very little use because I’m always working in Ableton Live and it simply does not work well with that DAW.

@@HelicopterRidesForCommunists That makes a lot of sense thanks! Yeah if people want to dive into making music away from a computer, the Deluge or the Akai Force are excellent options, but if they want to work with a DAW there are lot of things to consider (like maybe using Elektron stuff with overbridge and just using VCV Rack without spending money on modules)

@@unkeneke Yeah right? Elektron and Hydrasynth are working perfectly in sync within my Ableton Live hybrid setup, and I feel like I'm getting the best of both worlds. Otherwise, I would definitely swap the Deluge back in. I already miss it because it is just such a powerful device. I found the effects processing to be extremely powerful. It was like they didnt have any upper limit.

@@HelicopterRidesForCommunists Wow that is a dream combo! I almost got a Hydra but wanted to go full multitimbraity and got a Virus TI2 instead, but oh boy using the 16 MIDI channels of the Deluge with that thing using the 16 parts at the same time, it can go places... you cannot go wrong with either synth and grooveboxes except just how you imagine your workflow

hardware issues?

I'm not, that seems like a fair request though!

So I'm new to all this kinda stuff. What is ableton?

Ableton is a DAW or Digital Audio Workstation, it’s a piece of software used for making music on computers. It’s my personal favorite DAW :)

Sadly…Akai is just SLOOOOOW with their OS and waiting 3 years of just fixes and an instrument store, but not even an arranger mode, different colors per track etc etc etc….

Maschine is awesome, I really want a vocal suite on the plus though

I truly felt that, exporting into Ableton is quite limited too compared to MPC/Force

Still need to try an octatrack someday, I wish it had overbridge though

I think they're a bit similar to the push vs an mpc but i haven't had any issues with velocity on them

They really should bring an arranger over

thank you! yep, just improvising on this one!

It’s linked in the description as my gear stands! It’s a Quik Lok laptop stand

Fair enough!

Will do sir thanks for the video

I did but then I started getting into it again with the Maschine Plus after the iPads let me down

They recently updated the Force OS to allow you to open MPC files, so this is now true

Hi! I owned an MC 707 a long time ago, I have a few videos on the channel with it. They're a bit hard to compare but I'll try! I definitely prefer the Akai Force at this point. The biggest reasons are down to the hardware designs and what they allow the software to be. You are limited on the 707 in a multitude of ways that you aren't with the Akai Force. You can have more tracks, longer samples, more storage, and with the new instrument expansions along with the older keygroups and autosampling functions you can have a lot more high quality sounds of different varieties. If you find them near the same price, the Force wins hands down in basically every category for me. The 707 is a really neat piece of gear and I do regret selling it when I did, but if I had both now I'd probably never use 707.

This could potentially be overkill if you only need a drum backing track but I do really enjoy this device and can recommend it for general music making

@@DylanParisMusic i full on believe that anything thing worth doing is worth over doing 🤣 but I also really like making electronic music just for the hell of it too ha. Awesome vid though 👌

Appreciate the feedback!

not sure

No

That would be really nice, I tend to use it on a stand I can tilt which helps

@@DylanParisMusic Yeah, but I like to finger drum on a flat surface.

This dude got a video on how give it a tilt screen...He recently told me that he has a nother more detailed video coming out soon. ru-vid.com/show-UChYg5JqFG474HTR5J9nYVFA

Mouse would be interesting. I feel like if they do that they should also have an app for PC / Mac / maybe even iOS that shows the force screen but larger or adds additional interface options to take advantage of mouse type control.

Booooo

Infancy? Standalone devices came out first…..MPC 60 came out in 1988 followed by a tremendous line up of others. SP-1200 came out in 1987. Stand-alone is OG.

Heck yeah! Hope you enjoy it, it can take a second to wrap your head around the workflow but it’s great

And I would love to see XLR combo inputs and 48v standard on all stand alone groove boxes. So we can use our cloud lifters with an SM7

That sounds like an awesome setup!

The new sounds definitely make the Force more exciting to me than it was back then, but they are an additional cost so that’s worth considering as well. The force is now probably my current favorite

I believe those are both included. The only paid effect plug-in right now is Flavor Pro

Not sure on that one!

The X looks like a beast but I do love the Force

Dooo itttt 🙏🙌😎

Maxipok is one of the best

@@DylanParisMusic thanks Dylan, I didn't think you'd have Time to answer , with 200 comments ! Good lookin' out, my friend

Thanks for watching the video! Glad I could help :)

X?

Haha yeah it’s a heat pump so it’s like AC and a heater

I was smoking medication weed, I was like WTF is that a heater in the wall, I grew up on those in the 80s that why I was like wtf, am I that high?

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