Alan Bates reacts to ‘rehearsed testimony’ by Paula Vennells | LBC 

10 years, and then some

She won't go anywhere near prison. Sadly the world doesn't work that way.

They're already 'circling the wagons' in the upper echelons. They'll make a public statement of sorts saying all the right things - - learn lessons, never happen again, etc, but they'll spirit her away to some comfortable environment to spend her millions till the dust settles. She'll be re-registered for her safety. Keep an eye open for someone called Vaula Pennells appearing on some conglomerates Board of Directors in the distant future. And so it'll continue.

The establishment looks after its own

I thought you lefties would be happy with this?

Sadly in this instance she is still entitled to keep her full pension provision and no one can touch this.

This is a £ 2 billion loss to taxpayer's. This an industrial scale fraudulent prosecution of completely innocent people. Venal Vennells should go to prison for the longest. Bankrupted to pay for all the losses

She has not enough years of life left to even touch the victims yes she should go to jail but also the victims need compensating because however much cash offered it is not enough for the years of their lives they have lost through Vennells. What happened to their money they paid back where is it in the PO accounts???It was STOLEN from them where is it

Her massive pension should be transferred to the victims of this scandal. Why should she live a comfortable life with a big fat pension..

What about that 5 Million bonus ? Disgraceful that she has returned her CBE but not the money.

Yes, clearly she - and many others inside and outside the PO - knew.

This wasnt a Court of Law it was an Inquiry she was a witness . She will not go to prison for any verdict given here. She was not on trial although she seemed guilty if you look at those emails and her response to them. A separate criminal trial would need to take place in a Court of Law.

@@lisadefries6718 The police are 'now' investigating these cases and might well face criminal prosecutions...

@@lisadefries6718 my point exactly . She must be tried in court .

of course, she did, with all her experience and being in top companies, why would she not question the IT program

Is this a capital offence?

No it was done in the capital.

she put innacent people in jail but never see the inside of one tory will look after her.

she/they only made "errors" as its being said, they will not be prosecuted, it will be swept under the carpet as a error,

They will have to put her and these others in jail for their protection. Failure to do that is going to end badly on a personal level for these people.

She should be but I'm getting the feeling that she is going to be the "fall guy" and I think there are others involved as well who are better connected who will escape.

@@aalan4296 I think you are right.. She seemed to me, on the evidence, to be the patsy.

That would be not sufficient to pay the victims though or in some cases being back their loved ones But as a British tax paying pensioner why should the country foot the bill No it should be the wonderful Horizon co and the Post Office

It's 5 million! 😡🙏⚖️🙏

but somehow it was also all about her.

Really unfair. She could remember anything positive said about her, as well as the details of conversations with people in office corridors. It was only the rest of which she had 'no recollection.'

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She has not got enough years in her life to even start to pay back bur yes the years she has left should be on jail and none of the usual luxury treats they expect IE TV Playstations visits All her 'human rights' should taken off her as she has overseen the injustice to the victims She has taken their rights because no matter how much they are paid does not give them the life they and their families have missed out on

@@dovetonsturdee7033dead right. But in criminal proceedings if it ain’t written down it never happened. She allowed countless criminal prosecutions to proceed knowing that Horizon was flawed, fatally so.

Jo Hamilton was so dignified. In fact I'm amazed at how dignified all the post masters were, especially the ones sitting in the enquiry room. They could have made a lot more noise.

Jo seems like a wonderful woman.

I was watching her stare at Vennels and wondered who she was. Went off to find out and was amazed when I did find out she was one of the subpostmasters crushed by the PO and that she kept her composure during the lies being told.

My local post mistress for a while whilst I was living in north Hampshire …well stationed there. It was right next to raf odiham. Used to post eBay stuff daily. I knew she was innocent. As did the whole village.

I just don't know how Jo looked so calm and seemed to remain that way without yelling at Vennells at some point.

Pity she wasn't better trained to portray sincerity.

TOTALLY Agree..she knew what was going on..keep claiming yer £3M bonus..thought decent working class Post Office workers,could never bring her down..totally disgusting,immoral behaviour..selective amneasia to the point of nausea..very calculating,evil individual!!!

So right, you have scored 180!!!

and harassment of subordinates.

And criminal negligence which resulted in some people committing suicide!

Plus fraud

Then don't forget money laundering and proceeds of crime!

Unlikely I’m afraid, as usual.

In my life I am yet to see someone held accountable in any inquiry.... .... For context, I'm 48.

Nope

The elite in power will never let those at the top serve prison time, because they know it could be them next.

none.

SIR Alan now..........brilliant. He can accept an honour now as the dreadful Vennels was made to relinquish her CBE.

Both.

Not or, and.

Both !!!!!

Both nothing less than

And pay back

They will be.

She should pay it out of millions that made out of the poor victims this case could and should cause a public uprising as well as the victims getting a MASSIVE compensation nothing is to great But all settlements and costs to be paid by the Post Po give after all they have this blood money they ROBBED the victims of that in itself is a custodial sentance

Fear not, it'll be covered by the next increase in the cost of stamps.......

No he’s a public hero, only the ghouls are knighted

The man is a legend

Instead of just answering the questions that Simon Beer was asking. She would pause to make up answers in her head first before saying them out loud. That's how I saw it....

Likewise.

Hard labour and bread and water.

Lol😂

Send you to Rwanda 🇷🇼

They would build her a big luxury villa with servants. That`s how it works for the elite, in this world. If she goes to prison I will vote Tory!!!😵‍💫😵‍💫

What did Rwanda do wrong?

@@t.d.186 She would deny Rwanda exists.......

She’s also incredibly a lay preacher ! The hypocrisy!

Empluyed for acting quality?

The lack of memory & portrayal of her role as passive is because she is trying to avoid criminal prosecution.

It was her cunning not intellect.

That’s what happens when diversity is put before competence. Unfortunately incidents like this will only continue to happen as we go further down this route.

Yes, escalated from her sweeping broom to another she flew with!

Had the best legal minds she could find, never admit anything when in a spot don't say no comment ,that's for the working class just say, I don't recall.

@@user-vs5kg2ue3w Ha ha, straight out of Boris's Partygate Playbook.

​@@user-vs5kg2ue3w the difference is a lot the of the working class are doing underhanded and illegal stuff to survive our lives are completely different to the likes of Paula Vennells who has had a lot more opportunities than us in life and has never struggled to make ends meet and gone without. She should know much better than us. Look at the MP's expenses scandal they were literally thieving from public money and nothing happened. Had that been me comitting benefit fraud I'd be up in court imprisoned and forced to pay it back! They should know better than us we're trying to survive they literally have everything handed to them on a plate and done for them bar having their arses wiped for them. Boris Johnson couldn't even tell Jeremy Paxman how much a pint of of milk costs

Be coached so that at best, you look incompetent but not like you broke the law

If so, clearly she failed to graduate if her performance at the Inquiry is anything to go by. Her only 'talent' - forcing out a tear or two with great effort.

Clearly, she hasn't seen the Thou Shalt Not Lie bit......

She's probably begging for forgiveness 😅

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@@user-cy4fz7mo7v well yes ....that too lol

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The crying was the only "dramatic" part of the entire 3 days she was in front of the Inquiry. The rest was mostly bland, evasive answers... hardly newsworthy.

They are now the propaganda arm of the conservative party.

Boris put his Tory donor mates in charge of the BBC.

privatised by elites. world service (the larger part of the bbc) was funded by b.p. and the arab emirates some 15+years ago. they also made a deal with the other media outlets decades ago to share licence fee money in return for advertising revenue. which cuts them free of their "no advertising" rules. the licence fee is joke money to them. compared with rich investors which they can now dance with.

Instead, nobody should broadcast her "crying" at all. If needed, someone read her text flatly.

Think the problem now is finding unbiased jury members

If she ever comes in front of the judge & juries. I have my doubts

She wouldn't get a fair trial. It would be like Blackadder 'wheel the guilty barsteward in'

@georgejohnson7591 well she's not a loveable fictional character and no ones laughing

And perjury and theft

Probably paid their bonuses.

It will have simply been worked into the system as part of the profits.....

yes I want more info and answers on this too. it's a disgrace. absolutely dodgy as. disgusting. how they could just trot off that line and lie to callers is disgusting.

I agree, why haven’t the KCs for the enquiry looked deeper into this?

I'm not sure that anyone was manning the Horizon helpline - the SPMs could never get through to somebody.

@@franc9111 I think there were instances when they did speak to someone. It was depicted in the drama that those who did were all told they were the only ones. If the helpline was unmanned or manned infrequently that needs to be addressed by the enquiry. Fujitsu had to know there were issues and what they were doing without the SPM’s knowledge. It’s a web of conspiracy.

This, she is very intelligent, cold and calculating. Her selective amnesia and apparent incompetence is just a ploy to deflect blame.

Corrupt!!

Definitely not 'competent' at covering up. Sure, she maybe delayed it coming out properly. But she left such a trail of evidence, the scandal is far worse now, than it would have been.

@@crazyhai8155 I would think non of them expected such a deep investigation, although by the time the investigation got to vennells, she would know the game is up. And still they lie!

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Well you tend to know when you’re lying so straightaway I’d imagine

@@Jontyfarmer 😂

An extremely interesting question.

Astonishing her ambition was simply for the post office to be bigger / no mention of an ambition for the post office to right wrongs and act with integrity / which surely should have come first esp in the light of hindsight . Appalling. In stating this ambition for what could have been she even managed to miss out on the obvious chance to state moral behaviour being the most important thing before all else and indeed should have been the bedrock for the post office to grow.

This statement by her was unbelievable ,, more to run when the ones that were up and running were her cash cow

her and prince andrew

Dry eye fake tears

You're forgetting. Any monies in "the bosses pockets" has already come from the Tax payer.

I think it would be even better if Fujitsu paid! Ditto the US companies for the contaminated blood.

@@andrewm7945well let’s not add to taxpayers burden

Cried “ to order”

Vennels, not Carol Vorderman 😂

Tells you everything about religion

absolutely true. they said i had to take meds aged 16 to show i was willing to get help for my depression. out of 10 types 5 got banned for causing extreme depression and anxiety. after trying to move me onto anti psychotics (reason unknown, but my doc. dr.richard, ended up on the survivor tv series going loopy himself.)they left me to rot. he was my support person. i got lucky, my sister didnt. she died a few years ago. alone and desperate for help, she always trusted the doctors..and the meds. in cardiff there were many many cases of suicide amongst the younger gens. my gens. it was all brushed under the carpet. they got away with a 2" appology in a newspaper offering a help hotline for victims. (agoraphobes dont tend to use telephones as it causes anxiety, they also dont go out to buy the daily paper), i got shown it two years ago. they didnt follow up on any of the victims. worst part (im 45 now, alive but my life taken from me), was the depression was a dental infection, bodys natural reaction to infection is to stop it spreading, stop the blood pumping hard, keep you rested...it makes you depressed so you do that. but dentists arent real doctors apparently so doctors dont even look at that info. to top it off i checked my records when the doc left the room and all it had for 20years of treatment was "smokes 10 a day", theyd deleted it. and i guess thats why the doctors secratary made excuses for 7years while i tried to get my history from them. check records, you will find them stripped.

​@luminousfractal420 Sorry to hear that. Hope your feeling better now. And yes when did dentists start calling themselves doctors....

Paula has become the worst advert for the Church and Christianity. The real Christian’s here are Alan Bates and Jo Hammilton

Yes I thought that at the time. They said they had to take samples of the cladding away to have it tested in a laboratory to see if it was fire proof and it could take months before the results. I thought why not just get a blow lamp on it and if it burns it's not fire proof....

and return it with interest to the SPM