Alas, poor genitive! 

It's not a "higher" level so much as archaic. Languages change all the time, and although it's usually interpreted at the time as "dumbing down", it's just change. No native German speaker now says "An dieses Jungen Schule", just as English speakers do not say, "Wear not that tunic, boy, for so to do is forbidden i' this school."

Overusing the dative where the genitive would be the better choice is still regarded as a lack of education.

I realy adore the Genitiv case and use it a lot in my everyday conversation. It rises eyebrowes sometimes, because people feel it's a bit "posh" to use it and that you're showing of using it. And btw I should thank God the almighty everyday for growing up in a propper German speaking family and just learning by listening. I'm rubbish at explaining German grammar, because I know fck all about it xD Big respect to all you German learners, who master the use of the cases by studying the rules - frightening thought.

"Es heißt nicht wegen dem Schild, es heißt wegen des Schildes" - Feuerzangenbowle.

Es wäre mir eine wahre Freude, wenn du ein gleichartiges Video über die Konjunktivformen machen könntest, mit dem haben nämlich sehr viele Deutsche auch ein großes Problem! Als Deutscher hat mir dieses Video übrigens sehr gut gefallen :D

In Italy there is a long tradition of German studies and we used to learn the cases the German way, NGDA. That is also the traditional order of the classical languages and that surely has played a role in establishing the order. Some more recent grammars have switched to NADG which is not a problem as long as the case is explicitly mentioned.

My name is Hans and I never bit a dog! ;)

The list of prepositions that used to take the genitive and now take the dative is longer than you might think. It includes "binnen", "laut", "dank" and "trotz" ("trotzdem" should in fact be "trotz dessen"). And when was the last time you ever said, "Ich erinnere mich meines Großvaters" or "Er spottet des alten Mannes"? Linguistic changes come slowly, so you don't notice much change over your lifetime. But if you look through the history of the language, the evidence is there.

While watching this video, I honestly wondered, how I ever was able to learn my own native language and even get good grades in school...

Serbian has 7 cases: Nominative Genitive Dative Acusative Vocative (for calling somebody) Instrumental ('with' case) Locative (similar as Dative, but it is usen only in location) Language has 3 gramatical genders (male, female and neutral) Also it has singular and plural variation of EACH gender. That gives combiantion of 36 total cases.

Hearning about Nominativ, Genitiv, Dativ, Akkusativ .. makes we want to learn German again since I have forgotten what's what since school. And I am German.

It is highly recommended to use the genitive! Not using it, could be taken for a lack of education/intelligence, especially for a German. You can indeed speak German "wrong" in many ways, but often times people know when to change to proper German. As a foreigner it is wise to learn the correct form first and if you are very fluent and you may live in Germany you wont need to speak German perfectly in all situations, but now you know when to switch and why. Greetings from Berlin

The genitive will never go. It is just used on less occasions then back in the days.

If you're talking about the GfdS, that's a society that provides an advisory service at a cost. It doesn't try to regulate the language in the way that, for example, the Academie Française tries (and utterly fails) to regulate the French language. It is a member of the Council for German Orthography which regulates spelling, but as we all know, the rules are updated every few decades. The instrumental didn't take 1,000 years to die out, but died out 1,000 years ago.

Awesome explanation of the cases, why they exist and how the language is changing. Languages are organisms. They evolve over time due to outside stimuli. The genitive case is a great example of this evolution.

Wait, OMG LEFTY! There goes my concentration, I best take a tea break whilst I get over this startling revelation. Just about followed perfectly though, thanks!

It reminds me of what people do colloquially in French, at least in my region (Quebec). It someone owns something, you usually have to use "de", which means of. However, many people use "à", which means to, when their talking about a person (by name). For example, Sebastian's hat in standard French would be "Le chapeau de Sébastien ", yet everyone says "Le chapeau à Sébastien".

Ich sage tatsächlich noch oft "wegen des Wetters". Ich mag es dir beim Reden zuzuhören, ich finde auch einfach britisches Englisch klingt viel schöner als das amerikanische. Verfolge deine Videos schon sehr lange aber immer als stummer Zuseher, möchte aber mein Lob aussprechen, du hast mich viel geholfen gesprochenes Englisch zu verstehen und neue Wörter in meinen Wortschatz aufzunehmen. Danke dafür :) Gruß Claire

My dialect is from Poland and Russia (Originally Prussia) but we would say "Dän Jenitiw sien Doot es de Dautiw." "The Genitive (the oblique case is used to express the possessor) its death is the dative," not the same as but similar to Southern Germany, Switzerland and Austria. "De Dautiw es de Doot fom Jenitiw," is more common nowadays, though.

Oh wow! Recently two people I know who surreal German were talking to each other. One watches news programs to keep her landau's skills up. The other travels to Germany and talks to people, but has difficulty understanding the news broadcasts. This video made me understand why. Thank you.

I really enjoyed this video. I wouldn't mind if you made more grammar videos. You are fantastic at explaining things. I know how to use our grammar and I easily get how grammar works in other languages, but I have no clue about the terminology, which sucks considering I've decided to study comparative linguistics. D;

Did you know, Andrew, that a genitiv like "der Dativ ist dem Genitiv sein Tod" appears in the oldest written evidence of German language at all, the Merseburger Zaubersprüche (Spells of Merseburg?)? Some Germanic gods, among them Baldur/Balder, are riding on horseback through a forest and - in discreetly modernized spelling - : "dû wart demo balderes folon sîn fuoz birenkit" (then the foot of Baldur's horse got cricked ). Note that the phrase "foot of the horse" is put "demo ... folon sîn fuoz", "dem Fohlen/Pferd sein Fuß". How can anyone ever dare to name such a time-honoured construction or grammatical workaround "bad German"? Until today it's so popular that people in Hesse prefer to say things like "Ihne Ihrn Mann" instead of simply "Ihr Mann".

I was born and raised in the Ruhr-area (Duisburg, Mülheim, Essen etc.) … and I can say… we do say this… Like: "Dat war dem seine Schuld"… just saying! BTW.: I love your videos! Grüße aus Bremen (where I now live) - David

I guess you're right. While I usually use the genitive in written as well as spoken german (or at least try to), has become more and more, well shall we say obsolete, for the majority of spoken and also written german. It is a funny thing to have learned and used a language one way and see it evolving to another way ... makes me feel kind of old ...

0:25: Not just Germans. The traditional order of Latin cases is: I. Nominative, II. Genitive, III. Dative, IV. Accusative, V. Ablative, VI. Vocative, VII. Locative.

Du hast "Der Dativ ist dem Genitiv sein Tod" gelesen! Ich liebe dieses Buch, aber seit ich es gelesen habe, werde ich schier wahnsinnig, wenn mein Gegenüber Grammatikfehler macht oder Verben wie "nachvollziehen" benutzt.

I had to mention that Germans use a different order into to prevent any confusion, but I didn't really want to explain why. Also, German didn't get cases and gender from Latin. Rather, both German and Latin got cases and gender from a language that no longer exists, but linguists call it Proto-Indo-European.

It's really ugly if someone is speaking german and just not accepting that there is something like a "genitive". To foreigners learning german: please use it! And if all the people in your environment do it in the wrong way, don't change your language, but your environment.

But it's just not true that the Genitive even near to death. If you counted how many Genitives you can hear in one day, you'd be surprised.

I just started German 101 this Semester of college so this was really fun to watch. :)

You make really cool videos :) Thanks :)

This is such an incredible video! It does an AWESOME job and recapping GERM101 + GERM102 in most college courses. I've taken German in two different universities here in the US, and Genitive has been taught in both as a rushed 1 week thing after learning Acc, Nom & Dative pretty well.

my girlfriend is from south korea, i am from germany and we both agreed that we'll just communicate in english because although korean is an easy language its not very useful and german isn't that useful either + german is unnecessary difficult to learn. It took me a few years to learn english but look at me now, i am able to speak it almost fluently. english is a useful language and quite easy to learn. the only problem with english is the inconsistent spelling rules. for example: how can "read" in "to read a book" and "i have read a book" be written exactly the same when its pronounced differently? they need to implement consistent spelling rules in the english language asap

it is also considered more elegant to use and your style will be more appreciated using genitive.

@rewboss A few things you got wrong here, surprisingly. 1) The funny thing is, there is historical evidence of possessive dative usage for centuries, even with it being the preferred case. So while there still is a definite (educational) stigma associated with its use, it's more of a social phenomenon than a prime example of language change. 2) In spoken German, it is still 100% obvious who is the agent in your given sentence -- and the order of the arguments is not the deciding factor. It is the intonation. 2a) Colloquial German always *favours* SVO. To put it differently, the agent in non-standard argument order is always pragmatically marked. That *also* goes for sentences with persistent and distinctive article inflexion. _ P.S.: As far as I can tell, German kids are taught N/G/D/A case order because they are taught the same way in classical Latin (and some bits of the German educational system evolve *glacially*). Either way, Germans are equally confounded by the insistence of English speakers to try to force everything into indirect/direct object categories. The distinction doesn't really matter to a German native. They would only speak of the case being used. The same applies to transitivity. Many foreign grammar guides overload their students with the valency of predicates even though this has no practical use when learning the language. It is entirely meta-knowledge. Valency, as a concept, isn't even taught outside of university in the vast majority of cases. It has no practical application if a verb is impersonal or ditransitive. Instead, a helpful German grammar guide should just focus on the cases. Like: gegen(gab, gegeben: haben) akk(+dat)

As you surely noticed, there are many parts of the grammar, which aren't used correctly in everyday conversation. Where I live, people use to change the meanings of "dir" and "dich" or "mir" and "mich". So, as an example, they say: "Gib mich mal die Butter" (of course they would use a dialect, which leads to 'Gib miech amol den Budder'...). The correct form would be: "Gib mir mal die Butter". But they do not stick to that all the time and sometimes they use the correct form and the dialect form in one sentence: "Gib mich mal deinen Stift, dann gebe ich dir dein Brötchen." The Imperfekt is also used rarely if you talk to someone else whereas it is often used in written texts. And Germans use much more commas as English speaking people do - you may noticed while reading my text :D

I love that you mentioned that it's actually the prepositional phrase that replaces the Genitiv quite often, not the Dativ. The funny thing is that many people overuse the Genitiv with prepositions that require other cases, like "entgegen" (Dativ) oder "wider" (Akkusativ). So, there's nothing to fear for poor Genitiv, it's still around :)

Repetitio est mater studiorum = Repition is the mother of all studies. I'm studying history. And therefore I need Latin to understand historical sources. I did not have Latin at school. So I have to learn it in only one year at university. In the first semester (15 weeks) you learn the whole grammar and in the second semester you build up your vocabulary stock and exercise in translating texts by Cicero. This summer I will have to repeat the whole grammar. Can you imagine how I feel?

One of my favourite stories is The Railway Children and I once tried to think what the title would be in different languages. In French it would be 'Les Enfants du Chemin de Fer' and in Spanish it would be 'Los Niños del Ferrocarril', in both cases literally meaning 'The Children of the Railway', but I think in German it would be 'Die Eisenbahnkinder', the same way round as in English

I'd like to bet that within four generations, it will have dwindled to the point that it's only used in some set expressions. German used to have an instrumental case, but that's completely disappeared; there's no reason to think that the genitive will escape the same fate.

This video is awesome and a lot of work has been put into it

Rewboss its pretty easy to understand why we list the cases Nominativ - Genitive - Dative and Accusative : because thats the order how the romans had. In Latin its just the same. Although they got even a 5th case the Ablative. And the words in german all having a specific gender is also coming from the latin language. Die Tür ( the door ) = feminim in german. Porta ( latin for the door ) = also feminin We may have not been conquered by the romans but we've been influenced by them.

This video needs to be spread across the globe

You didn't mention the adverbial Genitive (eines Tages, guten Mutes, and even des Nachts even though "Nacht" is feminine). A prominent use of the genitive that sticks out in my mind occurs in the title of the Zuckmayer play "Des Teufels General".

4:33 hey my parents have the same old radio. Still works perfectly :D

I want to learn the genitive for the same reason I want to use whom and who: it makes you look smarter.

When I learned German quite a few many years ago, I used a grammar written for American students in... 1937. The one remark it made on the genitive was that, if the owner was a living being like a man one could say "des Vaters Buch" just as well as "das Buch des Vaters" but if the owner was an inanimate entity the construction "das Papier des Buches" should be preferable, as in English one would rather say "the paper of the book" instead of "the book's paper".

When I was in secondary school back in the day, it took us the entire 5th and 6th grade of German classes to learn formal grammar, punctuation rules and some quirky spelled words. :D Things got quite a lot simpler since then, but I guess it' still not easy. I use the genitive correctly when I write something for uni or even in private letters, but not often in colloquial speech. People would find that rather strange sounding I guess. ^^

Actually, I have to correct you on the use of the dative to replace the genitive. It's also used that way in Ripuarian Franconian, the endangered language/dialect spoken in the Cologne area (I should know, I'm one of its few remaining speakers under the age of 50). We say "Em Mann si Hongk" (the man his dog), "Em Lisbet si Brill" (the Elizabeth its glasses [named women tend to be treated as neuter for some reason]) or "Minger Dochter ihr Aapel" (my daughter her potato).

Witty and correct observation. Definetly not publicity for studying German. Its a hard language indeed. However, it is not so much a question of linguistical development. The genetive was never particularly popular for quite some time. German is a language where there are slight but noticeable languages between normal spoken and written or formal language. The genetive is one example, the simple past, Mitvergangenheit, Präteritum another. In spoken language it is either a distinct marker of extreme formality or a particular marker of a local dialect, most often similar to Dutch but it is also heard in Franken and even the northern old Bavarian dialectal area, In novels it used almost exclusively unless one wants to give a colloquial touch to what was written. Actually German got reinfected with the genetive recently at least in names. We use the English 's to create it, which is called the Deppenapostroph, as the genetiv is NOT preceded by an apostrophe in proper German and more often than not is not created by appending an S. Even when speaking standard German which is not at all a very common occurence I would use the prepended dative followed by the personal pronoun. Dem Andi sein Hut and NOT Andis Hut. While I'm aware that that gives a slightly local touch to my speech it sounds much less arrogant to my ears and is definitely understood von der Etsch bis an den Belt von der Maas bis an die Memel, or almost. But this is another topic you may want to review in another clip, the embarassement of this particular verse of the German anthem. None of the four locations actually is in what is considered Germany today and offends 6 nations in four words: Italy, Austria, Denmark, Belgium, Poland through Lithuania.

4:38 "Jakob bewirbt sich um Amt des Bürgermeisters" Sind der Zeitung die Artikel augegangen!? o_O

many germans use the genitiv.in my opinion, its a kind of status symbol for educated people. and alot people dont want to seem silly, and mayyybe they are realy proud of their native laguage, as me. so: the genitiv isnt dead yet, but as you said, many people use the dativ instead... lets see how it develops i guess. remember: not using the genitiv is "schlechtes Deutsch"- bad german

Rewboss, Presumably the "(possessor) sein (object)" form of the genitive must have existed in the north at some point as well? A similar form ("dativet er genitivet sin død") exists in Norwegian as well, and is believed to have been introduced by Hanseatic traders, who presumably spoke Low German. Perhaps it was the standard form in Low German, but was wiped out as northern Germans learned "correct" High German as a foreign language over the centuries? The "sin" genitive is relatively common in Norwegian, particularly in western dialects, although it is considered somewhat childish. The rest of the genitive conundrum described in the video somewhat resembles what is found in Norwegian. "Dativet er genitivets død" is still preferred in formal written Norwegian, with the -s being a remnant from the old genitive case (Continental Scandinavian languages are in a similar situation to English, having gradually shed their cases over the last millennium or so. Meanwhile, Icelandic and Faeroese are still quite happy with the four cases they inherited from Old Norse.) On the other hand, it sounds incredibly old-fashioned in many contexts, so many people prefer the "sin" genitive I described above, or use a third form: "Dativet er døden til genitivet", which somewhat resembles the "vom" genitive described in the video.

Please, use it!

There are still traces of the instrumental case in German. And it was gone in Old High German. That's over 1000 years ago. So it will take a long time until it's gone especially since German is standardised through the Council of the German langauge.

In 1985, my first time in (West) Germany, when I was shocked to discover that my mostly self-taught, grammatically-based German did not at all prepare me for the actual, spoken language, there were two or three pieces of German graffiti on the walls of the "Innenstadt von Stuttgart" (a decidedly non-genitive construction) that caught my eye and have stayed with me all these years. The best was not the ubiquitous "Raus aus der NATO!" or the equally prevalent "Reagan isch a Nazi Popper!", but instead "Rettet dem Dativ!", which makes your assertion that the Dative is the assassin of the Genitive quite fascinating. Especially for a native English speaker like me who can't help but be annoyed by the recent trend among hipster Americans who endeavor to put on airs of erudition by breaking the basic, fundamental distinction between the objective and subjective cases--the only ones we have left!--by refusing to say "me, us, him, her and them," even after prepositions, which results in such obscenities as "between he and I." !!! And my visceral, even angry reaction to this shite is not because I'm one of those dreaded "grammar Nazis," but because it breaks the narrative flow. It's just so fookin' pretentious, so very obviously done in order to appear grammatically cognizant! Aargh! Maybe the subjective/objective case "declensions" in English are bound to expire naturally, like all the others have done over hundreds of years, but this is wholly artificial. This is f*ckwits disturbing the flow of language because they are so desirous of appearing to be "educated," which only has the opposite effect. They might as well be saying "Him gave it I," for all the effect it has, which is so very obviously self-absorbed and deeply ignorant for people whose goal it is to appear "educated." Will they next rewrite all the canon of classical and popular Lit so as to reflect their pseudo-learned, insipid stupidity, completely erasing all objective case pronouns? It's already happening, actually. Newer fiction is just chock-full of this pretend erudition, which drives me crazy because, as I mentioned, it unnecessarily blocks the flow of the essential narrative thread. It's not--in this Brave New English--that we need markers like ihn and ihim, etc, to figure out who is doing what to whom, but this snooty aversion to the objective case so disrupts the narrative flow that I find myself gritting my teeth every time I encounter it. With German, as you point out, it's more a matter of the Dative--itself endangered--obliterating the Genitive, but the result is the same. Replacing the wonderfully efficient Genitive usages with clumsy Dative constructs that sound like a 5 year-old trying to avoid the trickier bits.

Alas, an awesome analysis, Andrew!

Except for the fact that I learned in school, that the accusative is the third case and the dative is the fourth case, this was a really fine video.

My sister started it when she was around 16 and i continue it, but i since started being aware of using the genitive. Every time using it wrong at dinner would be worth calling it out and when used correctly after calling it out would follow an approving nod. I since found one other person who likes usng it aswell, because somehow it sounds nicer, although it is more difficult to use.

Maybe the people I sourround myself with are a bit weird, but whenever I use dative instead of genitive in german or hear someone doing so, there will always be at least one person arround to correct them. Nowadays I even catch myself being that one from time to time. This is especially the case with "wegen mir" and "meinetwegen". Also I really like the german genitive.

Your information is very much correct! :-)

Language is diversity! Every case has its justification and meaning, and should be used! Thank you for this beautiful video!

its very confusing that you write the cases in the wrond way :D

Eigentlich ist nur der Genitv des Maskulinums und des Neutrums rudimentär. Und abgesehen davon benutzte ich den Genitiv sehr oft. O.o

It's also the genitive that makes the German of Goethe and Schiller sound so well written. However, if a person uses it correctly nowadays it sounds very ironic.

That's an interesting old tube shortwave receiver in the background at the end of the video. I wonder what the make/model is? does it work? Do you use it?

But when we speak, we're not concerned about saving words; we're concerned with making sure people understand what we say. We wouldn't say: "Das Auto des neuen Freundes der Mutter der Mitschülerin meiner Tochter." Instead we'd say: "Also, die eine Mitschülerin von meiner Tochter: ihre Mutter hat einen neuen Freund, und sein Auto..."

That was quite funny, but a little bit confusing too...even as a german. Kleine Anekdote: Mein Lateinlehrer war geradezu begeistert vom besitzanzeigenden Dativ ("dativus possessivus"). Der Hut von dem Mann wäre, ins Lateinische übersetzt, Hochlatein. Also, alles halb so wild! ;-)

Nowadays it is alright to say "wegen dem Wetter". So you can use the preposition with either Genitive or Dative in spoken language(!). But in written language the Genitive is still expected after wegen. However many people write as they speak and use the Dative instead. Teachers at school and professors at university would mark that wrong in an essay.

3:08 you can use articles on names (everyone does it - so forget about what purists might say) ... some people even would say "die Katze beißt in Hans" (although "in" is not supposed to be an article)

3:45 I think that would be a better sentence construction. It would put the genitive sentence structure with Dutch

where I'm from we do say "dem ... sein". It goes to an extent where I ALWAYS say that even if I don't speak a real dialect at all and am studying at University.. I don't even know when I'm doing it wrong. My friend who is an international student from Korea has to correct me...

I'm from (roughly) the centre of Germany (the Franconian region in southern Thuringia to be exact) and people call things we say in this region "southern German" all the time. 😅

"Ick liebe Dir" was correct in Berlin.

Es gab mal in den 80ern den Schlager "Wegen Dir", der die bayrische Sängerin Nicky halbwegs berüchtigt machte. Ein paar Monate später veröffentlichte der Österreicher Udo Jürgens seinen klangegewordenen Protest namens "Deinetwegen". Das zugrunde liegende Problem ist dialektal und nicht unbedingt neu...

I dislike the sound of using "dem" instead of "des" - for the most part it makes people sound silly. Just like the inability to pronounce CH (since we're only 20km apart, you probably know what I mean). Oh, ps: nice video! =)

Have you read all 5 series of the book "Der Dativ ist dem Genitiv..."? Is is a good book to read?

Why is it odd to list them in one order and not the other?

4:51 Oh what a beautiful a beautiful fuse radio receiver. Don't touch. It might be worth hundreds of Euros in a few years. As long as there is terrestrial analog FM radio.

"Es heißt nicht 'wegen dem Schild', sondern 'wegen DES SchilDES'!" If you get that reference then you know how long the Genitive has been floundering and how long academia has been trying to keep it alive. If you don't, there's a german movie called "Die Feuerzangenbowle" that was made in 1944 that is a classic in germany (made by the Nazis, but containing only subtle propaganda which you would miss if you did not know the film's context) and there is a scene where a student wants to rat out his classmates (He's called 'Rosen', that's how subtle the propaganda is) over a prank they performed and, uninterested in who the culprits were, the teacher corrects his grammar instead. Don't know about anyone else, but to me that was the most memorable quote from the movie before I even learned about grammar rules and the pain they are in 4th grade.

I'm so glad I finally finished school lol

I was taught that the genitive, contrary to belief, is not dying. Our teacher told us that they asked students on a German school they know whether they use the genitive regularly and they said they did.

Russian has six cases. Mark Twain's the very funny story of his learning German. And the horror of the prepositions which could come up bite you when you least expect them. In Russian the accusative has different rules for different sexes.

Little correction: “dem Genitiv sein Tod“ is not only to be heard in Bavaria. Westphalians and also commonly use this pattern.

Normally I watch your videos at the speed of 1.25 but for this one I needed to switch back to standard, though I am German. Actually a speed between standard and 0.5 would have been the right one and I definitely had to pause for the old English. By the way: how many and which languages do you speak? You mentioned you speak Russian in another comment. (I'm currently learning my 12th language.)

In der nähe DES BahnhofES! Genitiv bitte!

Ik drink een glas wijns op de genitief!

Children don't use case tables to learn the mother tongue -- they encounter it in school to explain the structure, but they get it innately by matching the speaking patters of adults. Grammar is descriptive and once you fall into the trap of trying to construct sentences via grammar you'll not have time to keep up. Practicing the patterns in real everyday situations will allow your brain to form the neural connections naturally, not though rote mechanical application of rules.

Even more complicated, the form with "ein" (a) is sometimes different than the form with "der" (the) "der Gefangene" vs "ein Gefangener" although it’s both first form singular

The genitive case is still used, limitedly, in English. I did not run "half of a mile," I ran "half a mile." Those people are not "friends of me," but rather "friends of mine."

The Genitiv case is not dying. Since the german unification (1871, not 1990) some people are whining about its disapearing. Truth is, that the gentiv case sounds a liitle bit posh and out of the world for people, speaking a lasy german accent. We love our Genitiv so much, we are only using this case, when we want to sound offical or serious. Just listen to parents. The moment they realise they have to correct their children, they start using german genitiv, to show superiority.

Was ich erst kürzlich gelernt habe, primär weil es mich auch vorher nicht wirklich interessiert hat, ist (was ich jetzt nicht unbedingt korrekt ausdrücken werde weil das Ergebnis war das wir Ergebnislos bleiben) das es nicht ganz eindeutig ist wann man bei einem Wort wie ''werden'' ein 'zu' in den Satz einbaut. Ursprünglich habe ich es immer nach Gefühl hinzugefügt, aber als die Diskussion aufkam hab ich etwas gegoogelt und ein Forum gefunden in dem die Leute davon redeten es hinge vom Kontext ab (bspw "er wird zur Furie" als Transformation aber "er wird Bürgermeister" als Ernennung) und ich meine beim Duden dann (und so kommen wir darauf wieso ich das hier unter das Video schreibe) gelesen zu haben das es vom Fall abhinge. Das Problem war ich konnte nicht wirklich ne gute Erklärung finden sondern nur ein "Isso". Was das ganze natürlich etwas komplizierter macht, bedenkt man das kein Mensch sich um die Fälle kümmert wenn er nicht gerade nen Deutschkurs belegt.

I took German in high school and i never learned about genitive or dative. I learned to use prepositions or something. Or maybe i misremember but still i don't remember learning these at all and i took 3 semesters of it

Non Guidare Dopo Aver Visto "Amici": the sentence to remember the cases order in Latin

As a German I think that it is a shame that our genitive is disappearing by time. In fact, it is not that difficult to learn the cases (if you have grown up with them ;) ). Thus, one has to say that German is not that exact in tenses like it is English or French. Nowadays, there is NO difference (in used German) between the "Präteritum", the "Pefekt" or the "Plusquamperfekt". The weirdest tense is the spoken "double participle": Ich habe das Essen gemacht gehabt. Really scaring.

Just a grammar book.

4:33 Cool he has a old vacuum valve radio in the background. Is it restored to working condition? If not never switch it on could cause fires , destruction of the radio or electroshock hazard. EM 34/ 35 ?

Actually romans have many more cases but you only need these five the most time. There are about 23 cases whereas many of them were invented by single persons (like Caesar,...). Latein hat mich bis zur zehnten Klasse begleitet und besonders im "de bello gallico" / "bellum gallicum" wird man verrrückt - andererseits war ich auch nur ein Durchschnittsschüler, aber für's Studium hat es gut gereicht.^^

Ah, ja… Ich erinnere mich des Genitives und seines Nutzens. 😉

Das Niederdeutsche, Plattdeutsche ist grammatisch dem Englischen am nächsten. Bei uns sagt man: das ist die Jacke vom Opa, wobei "von dem" ja auch Dativ ist