I remember this tour when Vai took over for Yngwie. I had front row seat expecting Yngwie and it was obviously a first or second show for Vai, as he was out there actually setting up his pedals and cables pre-show!! So when he came out , I was like ," aint that the roadie?!?!"....haha!! Never the less, I've never gotten to see Yngwie live, but I was introduced to Vai. Who is by far, a more versitile player. Yngwie can play like a Mo-Fo , but its always the same thing. Vai is limitless.
@@brogoram he was their first lead singer then it was Ronnie James Dio then it was Joe Lynn Turner I think the problem was rainbow was Graham didn't have a middle name I guess LOL
Learning a bit of history. I knew steve vai played in this band but never seen or heard it till now. Sweet to see him before the jem guitar. "for the love of god" was when I started listening to him. Also didn't know he replaced malmsteen, another guitarist I love. I cant believe steve had the chops to replace him within days he mentioned and relearned how to pick cause of malmsteens style. Thats legendary.
Steve said he had many great shoes to fill in past bands. To follow Adrian Belew, Yngwie Malmsteen, Eddie Van Halen, Ritchie Blackmore, John Sykes, and many more players, who he humbly paid his respects to. And he pulled it off without a hitch. Only a true virtuoso could fill all those shoes in one lifetime. So who do you think is the greatest of all those guitarists?
@@SIR0777Graham sang in Rainbow, so essentially he was following both Yngwie and subsequently Blackmore as well. That’s where Graham got his notoriety from.
@@mwdanny makes no sense to me. Steve followed Yngwie.Nothing to do between Vai and Blackmore. The rest of the list is correct but Ritchie does not belong in that list imho.
This song is from the Malmsteen era, released in 1983, Bonnet was a member of Rainbow as well, so it kind of makes sense the influence. Regardless, a great tune and band!!!
IMO arguing who is the best is a big waste of time... yngwie is a legendary player, he changed the guitar just like hendrix and van halen did before him, and that's a fact, even if you don't like him, just accept it! and vai is a great player that made history with his talent as well...so I THINK that both of them deserve A LOT of respect...
I want to see a film of Vai's first performance with Alcatrazz. The legend goes that no one knew Yngwie left, and before the band entered, the audience shouted "Yngwie! Yngwie! Yngwie!" and then they saw Steve Vai. I also want to comment that in this video, Vai's playing sounds a lot like Yngwie's, except without Yngwie's distinctive sound. Vai has a great sound as well, but I think Vai is better as a solo artist (although I love Eat 'Em and Smile and Vai's Sex & Religion album).
Gotta applaud Steve Vai for even trying these tunes, but it also illustrates how flipping cleanly Yngwie picks cos Steve couldn't do it, hence the tapping which hasn't half as much power.
Tambien cuenta la leyenda que esa guitarra era de Grover Jackson. Vai la pidió prestada, al tiempo le cambio el color a verde y nunca la devolvió. Esa es la green meanie. Esa guitarra fue la inspiración para Ibanez Jem
Incredible that he's not sweating like a horse in that outfit... He surely was a strange bird in Hardrockland, but hey, let's not forget that even Thin Lizzy once toured with... Midge Ure, complete in pink & yellow outfit and mascara... They just can't all look like AC DC, Status Quo or Lynyrd Skynyrd can they... So hail hail to Strange Birds with talents....
+JimiRayYng Black his early stuff was fantastic and the solos works of art for the most part, from roughly mid 90's onwards it was tedious repetitive boring stuff. Recall Yngwie saying in interviews later he started improvising nearly every solo and you could tell a mile away as it was mainly 100mph not very melodic stuff separated by the odd sustained vibrato note. Yngwie is really irrelevant today as a guitar player but he could have been one of the all time greats.
I remember a video of an Alcatrazz concert, after Steve had just joined the band and some guy yelling "You suck, without Yngwie!" All the while, Vai is playing Yngwie's guitar parts, note for note. Pretty funny!
@TalentBoy89 if you are aware with the Jem777lng (lochness green) it came from what this guitar would come to be.. this is what Vai turned into his green meanie. if you google "steve vai green meanie" it will show you Photos of what that charvel came to be.
I'm not going to "pick" my favorite guitarist, but am I the only one who gets a kick out of how much ALL the singers Vai was with emphasize his tattoo?
@malmsteen108 i completely agree with you, ppl dont give him enough credit and he deserves the respect that his supposed to have earned. finally found someone who love yngwie : )
+BeamRider100 African bands , wow, if you can send me over a link to a vid of one , I really wannna see this, Africa can use a dose of Metal , that will light a fire in their pants , it might become their " march " to re igniting " who they are as people in Africa "!! Great movement for Africans , this can be a " take down the Iron Curtain moment " !! African head bangers " !! Gotta see this !
I'm all about devirsity of looks on stage makes for good stage presence and allows the artist to position him or herself e.g. I remember Diamond Dave for his skin tight, leopard print spandex pants, love that shit!!. I guess, I just have a thing about people who look like Car salesman.
Yngwie wrote these songs ,and can phrase any note at any time and make it good .Steve is using a Van Halen Melodic chromatic approach that works good in major keys,but not really in minor . yngwie utilizes Diminished Whole half over Dorian ,which gives you harmonic minor AND the bebop scale ,.Blackmore did this on "SnakeCharmer" blackmore usually soloed with a slide .Yngwie plays much faster like Di Meola,and has better phrasing than anyone using this approach There is NO WAY any guitarist using the melodic Minor Chromatic approach could have written "Black Star" Even Frank Gambale
do not get me wrong nothing against YM and his fans, but did you think that Vai simple did not wish to copy anybody, when i listen YM and some classic guitarists from my academy malmsteen is funny He robed Bah all the way (and regarding stile Blackamoor and Uli VR), personal i love more Vai due to his perfect whammy a sort of talking playing He put Jeff Back stile in stratosphere, and imho Gambale and Meola are far better than YM, simply i find that fusion guitarist have more skills, neither can YM write Meolas 'Race with Devil on Spanish Highway' or any other neoclassic guitarist or any song from Gambale Live (1989). anyhow there is a lot to learn from YM beside picking technique many forget his great vibrato, and it is great that such guitarist hit the scene in early 80s, all the best.
MusicHunter Di Meola is a super expressive jazz stylist . Yngwie doesn't even have that dimension in his writing Tony Mac Alpine is the best in the whole Shred Genre . Yngwie put modern guitar together from Segovia through Hendrix and blackmore to DiMeola and Holdsworth . Yngwie is the only true Rock Star of the genre . Vai really couldn't handle the rockstar life and went back to fusion All the Debut albums from Vai Satriani and Malmsteen were brilliant . All the British invasion Guitarists were brilliant It comes down to guitar having no limit in music synthesis ! It can borrow techniques of a Keyboard a violin a Sax .It can create percussive textures ,it can be a mandolin or a sitar .It can make animal sounds .It can be a flute It can talk it can make motorcycle sounds .It can be a harp , it can be a bell . Guitar to me has primarily the voice of a rock blues or country instrument . Those motor skills are impressive to see. To see those telecaster bends done right in front of your face ,and real blues chops put together with the right intervals to build and release ' Everything else is an augmentation .Violin Technique ,fret tapping,sweep picking ,things all taken from Sax Keys and fiddle . Peace out !
MusicHunter I like what you said .No .I don't think Vai wanted to copy anybody ! Replacing Yngwie in Alcatrazz was like the Graduate program in his schooling! Passion and Warfare is a super expressive album full of color and innovation
Shred Sixsixsix Agree 100%, i adore Hendrix, 'guitar is easy to learn but hard/impossible to master' forget the name of the person who said this. nice that you have mentioned Tony Mac Alpine ( un fer underrated guitarist), many of today's Kids do not nothing about him, guess that His composing abilities are the strongest from those shred gods from 80's, last that i'v herd about him is that He returned to piano moreover He still shreds awesome due to what i saw on Vai concerts. Depending from day i love to listen last 2-3 months Maiden old stuff from 2-4 album, or YM, then i switch to Vai, next day i'm in fusion world, but i enjoy the most in Hendrix stuff (even in robert Jhonson as well and other blues masters from 30s). i had a problem due to it is a sort forbidden to bend strings, and to do hamer on-pul ofs stuff on jazz academy but i love it, the best thing is to take what we like from each musical genre and to make our music with a personal expressions. so it is great to have so many different stiles and players, friendly regards.
MusicHunter Oh cool. Yes Fusion . my one guitar friend was telling me Jazz guys tended to spend their money on a really nice Semi Hollowbody,and in turn neglect the quality of the actual guitar amp! For Jazz I usually listen to Wes, Les ,or Pizzarelli . Fusion i like Stern and Scofield . Actually JazzEveryone .com has the guy willie Thomas on trumpet,he does a "Know and Blow" series I always watch,and for picking Mechanics on guitar I watch Troy Grady Cracking the Code. Also Mac Alpines instructional ,and The Shawn Lane Instructional from early 90s , had some good explanations of picking and unpicked Legato playing . Some guys just don't have the pinky,or the dexterity to hammer and pull notes cleanly .. .I noticed the hammering is developed but the pull offs are a problem because of playing with the tip of the pinky I see violinists look like their Pinky is an index finger !!! Bach Bouree in E is actually very good for pinky development . I don't think low action is super critical for clean unpicked legato I would love to buy a Ibanez S Series from eary 90 or a Steinberger with a trans trem !!!
I went to see Steve Vai play in a little music theatre in Monterey thinking the sound would be fantastic in a place meant for presenting music. It was Boom! Boom! Boom! just all the concerts you go to now.I did not go to listen to the drummer. You never heard the rhythm guitar or bass guitar. I thought Vai would not be like this. The person who I invited to come to the show walked out after one song and went to watch the car auction down the street. You could hear people yelling "Turn it down!" in between songs but he just laughed it off! But he played very well and was like what you see on the net. The rest of the band sucked. I've seen many shows but this was one to forget. Not a fun experience.
I like Yngwie and Vai. They are a different player. Vai more theoretical and broad. Yngiew is more bluesy and technical. I enjoy both. I won't say which one suits me. I can be in a mood for either. Some times, Satriani, Holdsworth, Hoey. I like them at different times.
Vai is such an amazing guitarist and musician...so good he can have a solo career but I would prefer amazing guitarists like him in a band. I play guitar and I just walk away from listening to his solo stuff with a sense of how unbelievable he is as a guitarist and musician but its not compelling beyond that to me. If i want to listen to Vai, I listen to DLR stuff...
I love Vai's work with DLR, especially Eat'm and Smile era, I also liked when he formed Vai with Devin Townsend, but I felt he was out of place in Whitesnake being that they were more blues-based than what he usually does
Steve was so incredibly limited when he played with White Snake and David Lee roth. We got to hear so much more out of him as a solo artist. The thing is though had he played with a band for a good long time I don't think people would be having an argument over who was better him or Eddie Van halen. It's clearly Steve Vai. Now when we're talking blues it's Stevie Ray Vaughan. Blues is the one genre that neither Eddie nor Steve truly mastered
Both Vai and Bonnet are pitchy as hell in this . Bonnet is about a half step out of his range. Vai's bends are off by quite a bit. If you can't hear that you don't have an ear.
***** I agree..But I have always thought vai is a bit shaky with his bends live..And I'm a huge fan, but can't deny this. He is very very far from Yngwies pitch perfect bends, in any situation.
***** I hear you. I have to give them a bit of leeway because playing stuff like this live is very difficult. I have had performances where I thought I completely crushed it and then I got home and saw the video and thought "okay, never watch that again" lol These guys are monsters. The fact that they can screw up just shows they are human. (thank God :P)
@malmsteen108 I'm afraid you took what I said out of context. What I was saying was meant in the context that he drew influence from, not stole or literally took them as you tried to pin me for saying. I have heard a lot of Yngwie's music and I appreciate what goes into it, but again you're giving him too much credit. He's no Bach on guitar, he simply brought that style of music to the guitar. Anyone who drew influence from that time and had knowledge of proper music theory could do the same.
Yngwie, is the Best. No one can do what he does any better. He's a(Beast) Vai, changed the solo's to do it his way. Yngwie's solo's are better. I love Steve Vai, but Yngwie is the Man.
Nice! Just can't imagine the vocalist blending in, appearance wise. His get up is like he's gonna sing a rick astley song... new wave song... Duran duran... Or an 80's dance hit.. Looks like david bowie too. But still excellent vocals.
@blazerrips91 okay but does he have to? no he did what he did like many others and esecuted that very well.same like eddie van halen steve vai joe satriani al tremendous players but not over and over and 10 albums long.thats why i prefer bands over just one so called virtuose that only wangs ladders with an utter synthetic sound.But it's all rock/hard rock/metal so it's there for us and it's all for the good reason.
