Alec Baldwin Case Dismissed: So, Who Brought the Live Round to Set? 

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Seth Kenny needs to be interrogated and Sarah Zachary does, too. He told her to throw those live rounds away. She's lying under oath.

They need to investigate WHO brought the live ammunition to the set.

Seth Kenney / Sarah Zackery got away with murder. Terrible work by Santa Fe County Sheriff.

It was Seth Kenney. The guy who apparently told Sarah Zackary to throw away rounds after the shooting. She aided after the fact.

How come Seth Kenney and Sarah were not looked into more closely???

When someone goes out of their way to help the Police and seems to be present at many key moments of the Police investigation, something is rotten. An independent investigation free of the purview of the Sheriff's department needs to look into this. As local Police seem to be buddies of some of the people involved. They need to determine if the live rounds at the set were a mistake or there for something nefarious.

What we do know is, Alec didn't load the gun, Alec was twice told that the gun was 'cold;' and, the photographer told him to shoot the gun at her twice. We also know that as an actor, according to the testimony up to the calling for dismissal of the case, the 'dummy' bullet closely resembled the live bullet so even if Alec had checked the gun ahead of time, he probably wouldn't have been able to tell the difference. Who could tell the difference? The armorer, it's why there are armorers on a movie set. As for the live rounds, the armorer put 6 of them in places they didn't belong after 'fishing them out of her fanny pack.' They were mixed in with the dummy rounds & she didn't pay attention to whether she was loading the live ones or the dummies. The live rounds could have only come from 2 places - the pro shop where other gun props were purchased and from the armorer's step-father's home. Therefore, either she brought the live rounds or the owner of the pro shop did.

Seth Kenny and his mistress Sara got immunity because that corrupt 'Special Prosecutor ' because she wanted the big name for her resume. I think they should be investigated.

Seth Kenny needs to be looked at more closely What sort of oversight of the investigation and biased prosecution can occur?

Corporal alexandria handcock also handled the investigation terribly. I have no idea why she fell for Sarah And Kennys act. She contributed greatly to the mishandling of the ammo, interviews and gathering the correct suspects. Theres videos of her laughing and joking around with Sarah and Kenny, all while taking phonecalls from Seth Kenny and sarah. She took everything seth said as fact and to this day i cant fathom why. If she wouldve investigated everyone equally, she would have found out where that ammo came from

If Hannah Gutierrez has the money to hire a very good lawyer, her civil suit against Seth Kenney could demonstrate clearly how he wittingly or unwittingly provided the live rounds and--on October 12--Sarah Zachary brought them to the Rust movie site in a box. After that, Hannah may have indeed handled them, loaded them, and not checked them properly. But she can expose Seth Kenney for what he is: a liar and a massively successful narcissist.

Prosecutor Morrissey gave Seth Kenney a digital copy of Hannah's phone even though it included private correspondence with her attorney?! Thats how Seth was able to play himself safely in this case.

SETH KENNEY WANTED TO GET HANNAH FIRED! ALL GONE WRONG

You need to add David Hall to the chart The A.D. who also failed to check before Alec Baldwin

The fact that Seth Kenny immediately inserted himself into the investigation and continue throughout the investigation all the way up to and through the trial inserted himself and kept diverting attention to everyone else is why I think even ▪️Seth▪️ Kenny thinks those may have come from him

For those asking about Brandon Lee. It was different circumstances in death. March 31, 1993, while filming The Crow, Lee died from a wound on set, caused by a firearm malfunction; the lead tip of a bullet from a previous scene had stayed in the barrel of a handgun and ruptured a major blood vessel when a blank was shot at Lee Although the revolver was loaded with blanks, the gunpowder in the blank cartridge ignited, leading Massee to unknowingly fire a bullet fragment at Lee, who later died in surgery. While Massee did not face any criminal charges, Lee's mother did successfully sue filmmakers for an undisclosed amount

Seth Kenny and Sarah Zachary - is it that easy to get away with murder in New Mexico? To set someone up? Is someone given immunity when it's known they hid evidence from the police? This whole case has been so disturbing and so disrespectful to Halayna and family.

She was trying to cover for someone and thats why she was throwing away evidence.

Why was Sarah given amunetie when she disposed of evidence that would have proved who loaded it.

Such a great interview. I finally understand the possibilities of Baldwins claim he never pulled the trigger. And a much better understanding of Seth Kenny's role in all of this. Thanks !

The prosecution is shady AF!!! They really botched these cases. Morrissey should have her law license revoked. Her integrity is very questionable.

Does immunity still hold if Seth and Sarah LIED under oath?

I love you, Vinnie. He's the best reporter ever! Great questions always!

This whole movie set was a shitshow with DEADLY WEAPONS.

Who brought the live round ! It was the guy complaining about safety. He took the stand .

They used hannah as a scapegoat

Joe Swanson should not be making movie bullets, and live bullets. Seth Kenny told the Sheriff, "sh*t sh*t sh*t" when he realized these were indeed Joe Swanson live bullets mixed with dummy bullets.

You know dam well the amo came from Seth Kenny. He's is so shady.

I think seth Kenny brought live ammunition. I saw somewhere that he wanted to get Hannah fired and that's the way he figured it would happen. Never thought Baldwin was at fault but unfortunately he did shoot the gun.

Seth Kenny. its obvious by his actions after the event

As it should of been dismissed. This is a accident and that's all it was.

Does witness immunity still hold if it is found the investigation and prosecution (that granted immunity) acted in bad faith for this case and subsequent trials? What about justice for the victims?

I believe Seth Kenney got those live rounds on set to set up Hannah Reed. He wanted his friend, Sarah Zackary to be the armorer. Yes, Hannah loaded and didn't check the bullets. Alec also was guilty not checking the weapon, other actors on the set checked his guns ALWAYS!!!

It's a terrible thing that happened, and it never should have taken place. I am not a fan of Baldwin's but I have to think: how could an actor be at fault for one of the props he was supposed to use on site? I mean, the fault has to lie with whomever gets the props ready.

Yeh, seems like they largely scapegoated Hannah, she made a mistake not checking the rounds correctly, she probably wasn't expecting that live had been brought onto the set and contaminated with dummy rounds and her defence argued she was under a lot of pressure and set off the set when she was supposed to be there ensuring safety. Thell Reed tried to tell the court the rounds came from the supplier - who had put on the blame on Hannah. There's a lot of information the jury weren't told.

how can hannah take a picture of herself when her 2 hands are visible

Hannah via her dad. Seth looked them over and possibly missed the live ammo. He had Sarah toss any rounds (dummy and live) from the prop cart. Then he went later into the unsecured prop truck and removed the rest of the live ammo he found there. He insinuated himself into the investigation to keep his own tracks covered.

Birds of a feather WILL NOT PROSECUTE FEATHERS

Juries do not give reasons that means no jury tells you what happened.

They also destroyed the weapon so further testing could not be done by Baldwin to demonstrate the theory that the weapon misfired from just cocking

Seth Kenny or Hannah guttierez Reed...... but reed should still have checked each dummy round regardless instead of taking it for granted

Seth is the snake

The prosecution screwed the pooch and they withheld evidence. Charges should NEVER have been charged in the first place.

There is an ATF loophole that allowed Sarah Zachary to handle firearms on the set of Rust because she was employed 1 hour per week by Seth Kenney, who was a licensed armorer, and who sold the production props that were supposed to include guns, dummy rounds and blanks. He hired her for one hour a week only for this reason. Sarah hired her boyfriend’s 19-year-old sister Nicole to help her. Nicole was not authorized to handle firearms on the set. Police interviews with multiple witnesses said that it was Nicole, not Sarah, who had an accidental discharge with a blank and shot herself in the foot. In the Hannah Gutierrez Reed trial, Sarah testified that she herself had the accidental discharge. The prosecutor, Kari Morrissey, had to know she was lying about that. Sarah always acknowledged discarding ammo after the incident and claimed she didn’t know why she did this. Dave Halls, another prosecution witness, also lied on the stand in that trial. Many witnesses contradicted his version of events in police interviews. I don’t think HGR was the source of live ammo on the set. I think Seth Kenney had instructed Sarah to throw away as many dummies as she could so that the production would have to order more from him. But Hannah complained to Sarah that expensive dummy rounds were missing. And I think that Sarah and Nicole tried to mask the fact they had thrown them away by taking what they thought were replacements from PDQ without Seth’s knowledge. But what they took included live rounds, and the box containing these mysteriously appeared in the prop truck on the morning of the shooting. Live rounds ended up in bandoliers for two actors, and one was left on top of the makeshift cart being used by the armorer. It is critical that armorers have a proper cart in which ammo can be locked after it is checked ahead of time. It is not realistic to require them to listen for a dummy to rattle when there are high winds and other noise. People responsible for distinguishing dummies from live rounds should be tested regularly for hearing, vision, and color blindness. This isn’t something actors should be doing. Even police were unable to distinguish some of the dummies on that set from live rounds, and they had to be sent out for testing. George Clooney thinks Baldwin should have made sure the gun was empty. He’s full of helpful advice these days. I don’t think an actor should ever be handed a live gun. An actor should not be trusted to make a live gun safe, especially one that can go off when dropped. I know people want to make this about gun safety and never pointing a weapon. But the primary problem is that live ammunition got on that set. That is an accident waiting to happen, and it can happen without any violation of safety rules. Another senseless tragedy is inevitable if the primary problem is not addressed. The ATF loophole needs to be closed. Seth Kenney used that loophole to bring young women who desperately needed jobs into his orbit, and he did not train or supervise them properly, if at all. He should not have stored live rounds in the same facility with dummies, if that is what happened, and I think it did. If Sarah took those rounds without his knowledge, I don’t know what his criminal exposure is. I don’t know what her criminal exposure is either. The production failed to provide a proper cart that locks. They have civil exposure. I would not have voted to convict HGR. But I also don’t think she should have qualified to be armorer. They should be licensed. I was looking forward to hearing testimony from defense experts about the gun. (Forgive me if I don’t trust the gun’s manufacturer to basically testify that he has no liability.) I was looking forward to hearing from experts about whether actors are allowed or encouraged to rely on professionals who tell them the gun has no blanks, which is what “cold gun” means. (What if an actor is sight impaired, or hearing impaired?) But I’m glad the criminal case was dismissed with prejudice. I’m glad the prosecutor was exposed as the liar that she is. The chief investigator lied on the stand for as long as she could, until the judge cornered her, and then she gave up the prosecutor. I hope there are consequences for both of them. Most of all, I hope the investigation into PDQ is reopened and that the evidence that was hidden undergoes powder testing by the FBI. The only way to ensure this doesn’t happen again is through legislative change and big civil penalties. Based on what happened in Baldwin’s trial, there is a chance HGR will get a new trial. When people say the 6 live rounds found on the set of Rust were identical, they are forgetting that Sarah Zachary testified that she threw rounds away after the shooting and said she did not know why she did this. I think she realized what she had done and tried to discard the rounds that looked the most different to her.

Seth Kenny & girlfriend are both guilty of something very serious Will they ever face justice??😢

Thank you for being the finder of facts Vinnie Politan 😊

Finally I understand how the live ammo got there. Great graphic and explanation showing the two possibilities. Excellent episode

ego > common sense To be clear people in authority often overlook responsibility & accountability.

Seth Kenney is one of the suspects, yet ends up instructing the prosecutor. Unbelievable. She needs her license up for review-

Why didn't NM investigate where it came from?

Alec Baldwin should be in jail. The fact that he isn't shows that rich people aren't held to the same standard as the rest of us. Everyone knows the number 1 rule when it comes to guns. Alec failed the first and second rule of using a gun. Everyone keeps saying who brought the live ammo. None of that matters. When you hold a gun you never point it at somebody unless you tend to use it. You don't pull the trigger unless you tend to own it. Baldwin did neither. He is exactly what is wrong with celebrities and fire arms. Btw it's hard to pass the fire arms training when he was busy doing everything but the training. It's okay he will spend years in civil court now.

Seth Kenny

Each and everyone on the set, off the set, law enforcement were all irresponsible 😮

Seth Kenney did.

It is really disturbing that (taking) a life in the US is not worth more than 1,5 yrs prison time for the responsible parties. Disgusting! As a psychologist I am asking what exactly has the responsibility of Alec Baldwin for pointing and shooting a gun at someone (pulling a trigger is necessary to do so) to do with any mistakes or anything a prosecutor does or did not do? NOTHING! There ist no correlation between his guilt/responsibility and the behavior of the prosecutor. Im shocked by that narcissistic behavior of the judge to treat one defendant other than another one. This ist called narcissistic splitting! It is like you would say that because the prosecutor did something wrong Alec Baldwin has not to take any responsibility for what he did anymore! WOW, that is low! That is pure Cluster-B personality disorder thinking! And how many people are in it to help jusitifying this kind of thinking? As long as humanity can´t think independently and does not correlate independent conditions with each other (= pure narcissism to do so) as long will humanitiy have nothing that is factual or fair, ever! No wonder that in 2024 no one actually relaxes and trusts the justice system anymore. Why that is? It doesn´t matter if you are rich or a democrat/republican, a woman or man or a foreneiger or citizen. If people can not treat just the issue itself independently no matter what gender (abuse ist as commen from females as from males!), party or whatever, as long there will never be justice, it is all narcissism and that is a disorder and no there ist no such thing as healthy narcissism! Helyna Hutchins lilfe was not worth more than 1,5 years! If feel deeply for her, her son and family. Glad that everybody makes now money of of her death. Worked out well, doesn´t it? Is there ever any development of humanity?

Great video, glad you had some great guests. Finally some common sense on the case. Terrible how bad this was handled by prosecutors.

I say it was most likely Sarah Zachary.

who loaded the gun and was snorting coke and smoking weed?

In addition to everything else, I find it deeply saddening to consider that Alec Baldwin, raised in the Roman Catholic faith alongside his brothers, has to live with the knowledge that he unintentionally caused someone's death. The emotional and moral weight of this incident, compounded by his religious beliefs, is a heavy burden to bear for the rest of his life. Of course, the family of Miss Hutchins has to endure far worse, but this is still profoundly awful for Alec Baldwin.

thank you for this. I still want to understand how this came to light? Did someone tell the defence about them? Who? When? Why?....

I think Hanna was set up by Seth and Sarah

I’ll never understand how Baldwin was even charged! WTH?

Just the explanation I was looking for. Thanks

They made that whole promo at the beginning, anticipating a lengthy trial, and on day three, everything gets dismissed.

Hannah she wanted to teach the little kid to shoot and she was going to do it but they told her no she brought it because she planned to use it and she got mixed up because she was high. And she got them from the stepfather. Not the prop house. Her case is completely different from Alec’s.

I took my car to the Garage because the Brakes failed And the manufactors claimed it was impossible to have happened due to safety backups But it did Happen

And Hannah was to verify the rounds for safe dummy rounds.. It was her job..

Seth Kenny. He got Sara Zaccary to get them and dispose of them. He then had free rein, given to him by the prosecution or the Handcock person to go in and make sure all the evidence was gone. When Sara was on the stand she looked so guilty, like a deer in the headlights. Just my opinion. I think he is a good liar. He duped them all. They wanted Hannah out. Kenny and Zachary.

Thank you for another Hollywood cover up. Not surprised by this outcome at all. I feel sorry for the her and her family. RIP ❤❤❤

Sarah and Seth did not like Hannah at all.

Does it matter how it got on the set? Seth Kenny, whoever else; it ended up there, and that person isn't getting convicted of anything. It's beside the point. The question is precisely how/why it got from armorer to first AD to Baldwin, who was winging it around like it was "cold", not "hot," nor "armed with live ammo."

Great coverage

The whole case(s) were fascinating to watch. Morrissey committed the biggest investigation sin : she twisted / altered / omitted facts to fit her theory, rather than letting the facts lead to the truth. Once she had the conviction on HGR, she couldn't go back and had to hide the Teske rounds to also help convict AB. How did AB defense learn of the Teske rounds is my question. Seems like they knew on day 2 and let Poppel perjure herself.

Hannah still didn’t check the rounds before she gave the gun to Baldwin.

I knew at the time she should never have been convicted, the judge had it out for her along with Morrissey, just wanted a conviction, hasty, and not just.

The prosecutor was really reckless and just wants this case to be done with.

Innocent or guilty, the case was dismissed we'll never know

When I watched all of the Hannah Gutierrez Reed case, I thought it was weird that the Sarah was let off for her testimony, but yet she threw away shell casings and bullets that are evidence. Seth Kenney made it right on scene after Sarah "emergency" text and went right to the safe and talked with Sarah. He almost was acting stupid and helping police in a weird way. They should test those rounds given by Mr. Teske with the FBI and since they were on 1883 and part of them were reloaded and give to the Rust set.

The Judge did NOT simply dismiss the case. Because of BRADY violations violations of his constitutional rights. This was NOT Alec's Fault

I have always thought that Seth Kenny accidentally mixed live rounds with dummy rounds and Hanna failed to recognize them when she loaded the gun. The initial responsibility lies with Seth Kenny and on down the line where safety protocols failed with each subsequent person.

There is absolutely NO WAY someone can mistake an ammunition blank with a regular bullet. A blank round is crimped at the end and contains no projectile. What looks similar to a bullet is merely a crimped shell with a firing cap and is filled with gun powder. Its purpose is to produce the same sound as a regular bullet. It's clear that someone intentionally loaded the pistol, possibly so they could do some target practicing during a time when no filming was being done. But that careless person forgot to remove one of the bullets before returning the gun to the set. It's possible that no one except that individual knew that a live bullet had ever been in that gun. However, Alec Baldwin was responsible for being STUPID beyond measure. If he had spent any time at all in the military he would've never pointed the gun at anyone. Even if the weapon is completely disassembled, and contains no barrel and firing pin, one should never point a gun at anyone they aren't prepared to kill. The reason is simple. It's so easy to develop bad habits if you don't set strict rules that you'll NEVER break. Yes, I mean NEVER!! I believe that Alec Baldwin didn't mean to shoot anyone, but he's still culpable because he didn't follow proper safety precautions.

Great points and info Vinnie

Something tells me it’s Seth Kenny I think Sarah Zachary needs to come out with the truth

Take a look at Seth's first interview with the police. He throws Hannah and her family under the bus by saying that Thel isn't her real father and that she was conceived by his wife cheating on him when he was away on location. Why did he need to say that, if not to try to insinuate himself as the person who knows everything? Zero respect for that man!

I think they put the wrong person in prison. 😢

INCOMPETENCE that's how we ended up here

Finally I need to know who brought the bullets to the set ! I’m Switzerland on the whole thing! You explain this so well sir ! And Ty for bringing this up! Could it have been the armorer ?

What are live rounds doing on a movie set ? These people are actors not gun nuts . In this situation you would never expect a fully functioning weapon to be given to you while filming a movie .

No one is asking where the live 45 rounds Seth Kenny brought back from 1883 practice wound up going to ..... i had not heard the rounds in the PDQ bathroom were the 1883 rounds. I believe the restroom rounds were tested and the powder was not the same as the live rounds on Rust.. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Interesting how the prosecutor claimed that Hannah’s defense wasn’t interested in that evidence. Major corruption at the sheriff’s office

Bottom line Hannah Gutierrez did not check bullets! She admitted in police interviews,"I 'USUALLY' check bullets⁉️There's pix of live bullets on RUST set on her lap & actor's holsters forseveral days! But for Hannah Halyna would be alive today!

Are you all forgetting Gutierrez was arrested a few days before the shooting for having a firearm in a dive bar in Santa Fe? She should have been fired. How can an armorer have a pending felony firearm charge? There is a link between Kenney and the SF Sheriff's Department. Find someone to explain how this works in Northern NM.

Your court system and your prosecution in several cases of late are letting your justice system down, just like in this case, like the YSL case, like the Karren Read case, your prosecution is applying a win at all costs no matter what it takes this judge did the only thing she could have done and that was to dismiss the case, she was completely fair and applied justice the correct way.

you need a 2nd episode on this topic

One small correction Vinnie you can not tell a dummy and live by looking you have to hear the rattle ! At least the one they are using .. starlight

Everytime they talk about Joe Swanson I picture Joe Swanson from Family Guy

This is amazing thank you

Seth Kenny imo

Been waiting for this vinnie ❤