Grizz watches Alien 3 (1992) for the first time! #Alien 0:00 Intro 2:00 Reaction 40:27 Review Watch the full uncut reaction on Patreon: / kylekatarnchannel
I enjoyed this film! And I'm just gonna say it, Alien 3 wasn't the best, but it might just be Sigourney Weaver's best Alien performance. Thanks for watching, everyone! Next stop, Predator!
Her total loss of fear and ability to confront it freed of any concern for her own mortality or having anything to return to really gives her something that puts her on a different level from Ripley in the other films. Cannot WAIT to see what you think of Predator!
You should check out the Assembly Cut of "ALIEN 3". It is almost a totally different movie than the Theatrical Cut (there are a lot of deleted scenes, you will be surprised about how much they actually cut out of the movie, and there are also a lot of alternate scenes as well). I actually think that the Assembly Cut is a lot better than the Theatrical Cut.
I'm honestly glad you did decide to watch Alien 3, yeah I think its the weakest of the three but it does have its place in the trilogy. I also grew up watching the theatrical version of the film and think its better. Yeah the extended version has some interesting scenes but I think the theatrical version is just a cleaner cut that moves smoother. Thank you again for the great reaction.
There's an entire deleted plot line with prisoner Golic.... During the fire sequence, Junior (The rapist) sacrifices himself to lure the Alien into the nuclear storage bunker and they catch the Alien. Then Golic escapes from the infirmary and thinking he has a connection with it (cos it hasn't killed him twice) lets it free... You can see all this in the "Workprint" version. An the documentary "Wreckage & Ruin" on the making of the film is really fascinating. The Alien is actually a Rod Puppet - not CGI, but they are REALLY badly composited... First Alien movie to have all CG aliens in Alien 4
There are a number of things I really appreciate about *_Alien³_* - It took a series about survival & flipped the script where you're forced to live with that predation as the only thing left, and where the salvation is actually a MASSIVE fear because the Company is _always_ the biggest threat, and makes the emptiness of death have a meaning where she could actually find a purpose in it that isnt failure, because it's still a victory over the Xenomorph AND the Company. The iconic Runner & Ripley being face-to-face where that flip finally happens feels too iconic to ignore this film even if it doesn't hold up as well as its predecessors. There was a TON of interference in making this film, and the other cuts are radically different (like seeing the massive unique Queen Facehugger, and the Runner emerging from an ox rather than a dog). The DVD behind the scenes stuff were something that gave me a TON of respect for the film managing what it did. Playing as a Runner Xenomorph in the old PC game AVP2, you can sprint along walls & ceilings EXACTLY like the chase sequences in this, so it really is an important piece of the overall franchise despite its complications. When it comes to the larger franchise, I tend to think of it in three sorts of continuities: Alien, Aliens, & AvP. • Alien, Prometheus, & Alien Covenant are largely existential cosmic horror and in line with Ridley Scott's themes. • Add in Aliens, Alien³, and Alien: Resurrection and you have more of the Science Fiction Action Horror as James Cameron's sequel carried a heavy influence also connecting to games like Alien Isolation as a bigger. • Then you get the AvP & Predator films for a shared continuity to enjoy them as a bigger sort of franchise-level Sci-fi Action feel. Given that Alien: Romulus has Ridley Scott as a producer and he loved the director's cut he saw, I'm VERY interested to see how the film feels in terms of those general categories.
Welcome to the production hell that was Alien 3. The movie went through 5 different scripts. The original William Gibson was described as "Commies in space" and had the Sulaco drift near space belonging to the Union of Progressive Peoples. They board the ship finding Hicks, Newt and Ripley in cryosleep and get attacked by a facehugger that was hiding in Bishop's torn up body. They then bring the ship back to their space station and are attacked again by xenomorphs and Ripley's cryotube is damaged, Ripley is put in a coma because of this and then Hicks and Newt get woken up. Newt gets sent back to Earth while they keep Hicks around to learn about the alien. Hicks then finds out they've been experimenting on xenomorphs with cloning and genetically modifying them. The movie then turns into what you'd expect from an Alien movie of Hicks running around a space station trying to survive. This is generally the script fans say the movie should have used as it seems to be the most fleshed out and Alien feeling. Eric Red then got bought in and quit after 2 months because of how much the higher ups were interfering and he felt the draft that got delivered to Fox wasn't remotely his story. David Twohy then got given Gibon's original script. First thing he did was get rid of the communism stuff because the Soviet Union had fallen at that point so they felt it was outdated. He also was the one to set the movie on a prison planet. Then they bought in Vincent Ward who moved the movie setting again from the prison planet to a monastery. The monks there then think Ripley and the alien in her is a test from God. Then it goes the route of them thinking the trial is having a woman in the monastery and Ripley is there to test their temptations so they lock her up. It then focuses more on Ripley's struggle with knowing the alien will eventually kill her and likely everyone else and she eventually finds a way to end herself. Then we finally got the final script from Walter Hill and David Giler which took David Twohy's prison idea and a lot of the religious stuff from Vincent Ward's script. I do like a lot of Alien 3 mostly because of Sigourney Weaver but having so many different ideas from so many people clearly left some glaring problems with the movie.
Nice to see someone doing Alien 3 for once. Most people stop at Aliens which I feel is very unfair as Aliens is less a sequel than an action remake of Alien. Alien 3 is most certainly a sequel in terms of giving us an original story.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Alien 3 gets and undeservedly bad rep, imho. Is it as brilliant as the first two? No, absolutely not. But it's also not nearly as horrible as many people make it out to be.
I agree it's no way as good as the first two buts it's still a good movie , I read a proposed script for 3 and it was really dire way worse than what we got .
I would say the reason it had such a bad reaction from most of the common fans is due to there technically 3 versions of this film. The diehard alien fans are just mad that the third version of the film never made it to film. For me anything to do with the trilogy is great. It's the experience you have to have in each film. First was a horror. Second was a thriller/action and the third was a drama/thriller. You have to see what each one is trying to do.
Considering the mess of a production it’s amazing the film is as good as it is. I really like it, especially the assembly cut. Even though it was never Fincher vision I think it’s a well made movie with lots to admire. Its biggest crime was having to follow the first two films which is no easy task.
Totally agree about Alien 3 it's no way nearly as bad as it could have been , it certainly is no Alien vs Predator Requiem which is totally dire and in my opinion unwatchable, Alien and Aliens are obviously the best of the franchise ( so far ) the first two work on so many different levels and in so many different ways it is really difficult to choose between them .
Fun thing to spot, the prisoner who found the dog was played by Christopher Fairbank, who played The Broker in Guardians of the Galaxy, Ulaf on Andor, and Dr. Mactilburgh in The Fifth Element.
While not one of the best or worst of the series, I will thank this movies setting and color pallet for being a key inspiration for the original Dead Space video game
Speaking of videogames... I actually really enjoyed playing the Alien 3 game on SNES. It was hard as hell and I never got very far but I thought it looked pretty amazing at the time. Keep in mind every single version of the Alien 3 games were completely different, play styles and graphics. I can't even take the non SNES versions seriously lol. So if you've played the others and not SNES's and were disappointed, don't let them keep you from trying the SNES one.
31:53 Just a note- the Alien was never CGI in the film- for scenes like this it was a "go motion" puppet (as opposed to stop motion- the cameras would film continuously while puppeteers made the creature move with rods). The reason it looks like poor CGI is the compositing was bad. I believe there was one CGI shot and that was the Alien's head "cracking open" as the molten lead cools from being doused with water.
If you mean the Assembly Cut (I know that that is what it's called) then I really like that version as well. It is almost totally different than the Theatrical Cut.
@@warlorddk2070 Covenant is definitely as bad as people say. In addition to being a lame film, David being the creator of the Xeno's is garbage. Should have focused on the Engineers.
I prefer the theatrical version of this film. It flows better and it makes more sense that the Xenomorph came out of a dog, because of the way it moves. And covenant and prometheus are decent movies too, with very interesting philosophical ideas, stunning visuals and great creatures. you just have to kind of ignore the stupidity of some characters at times to enjoy them properly. Resurrection on the other hand really sucks. A lot!!😡
I'm not going to lie. Listening and watching Grizz react and give his sharp analysis in real-time somehow made the disappointing Alien 3 so much more intriguing than I remembered it to be. Perhaps I've been bewitched by the power and charm of the Wiz.
Honestly, out of the original three films, I enjoy the Alien³ score slightly above Alien and Aliens. All the scores are fantastic in their own right and really capture the essence of the films, but something about 3 just hits a little bit different, and I really love it.
My all-time favorite movie series. I love Alien 3 as much as Alien & Aliens. It has its own unique atmosphere, phenomenal soundtrack, acting and even the most epic ending. Also, it adds so many fresh and unique ideas to the Alien lore: xenomorphs taking features of their hosts, royal facehuggers etc. The final tunnel chase scene is one of the best scenes in the entire series. Not to mention the legendary Ripley/Xenomorph close-up moment
There’s actually only one CG shot of the alien in the movie, when they hit it with the sprinklers. The ones you thought were CG are actually digital composites of a practical rod puppet built and operated by Richard Edlund’s team. This was actually one of the very first films to do digital compositing. I really recommend watching the documentary about the making of this film. David Fincher was constantly at war with the studio during production. He started shooting without a completed script and had to write it on the fly after Vincent Ward (What Dreams May Come) departed as writer/director after his own issues with the studio. Set construction had already begun for Ward’s version, whic( was to take place in a monastery rather than a prison. Fincher had such a negative experience that he refused to work for 20th Century Fox again until he was guaranteed creative control on Fight Club. The “Assembly Cut” is a VASTLY better film and restores 30 minutes of the film, including an entire subplot surrounding Paul McGann’s character. Hicks and Newt’s deaths were part of the story beginning with Ward’s original outline, mostly because Ward found the character of Newt to be annoying. Legendary SF writer and father of cyberpunk William Gibson wrote a version of Alien 3 that would have featured only a cameo by Ripley, who would be comatose for most of the movie. In Gibson’s script, Newt is safely returned to Earth and reunited with her extended family. The story instead focused on Hicks, who finds himself trapped aboard a station full of researchers working for a communist colonial regime, who obtain the alien DNA and use it to engineer an airborne pathogen that causes characters to spontaneously mutate into xenomorphs. This story - along with another script prepared by David Twohy (Riddick) - were contingencies in case Sigourney Weaver asked for too much money. The Gibson script has since been adapted as a graphic novel, and also as a radio play featuring Biehn reprising his role as Hicks. Ripley was killed at Weaver’s request, as she felt trapped in the franchise. At the studio’s insistence, the ending was reshot to include the chestburster. However, Weaver had already grown out her hair, and had a contract that would have netted her a significant payout if she was required to shave her head again. So the studio instead commissioned an elaborate buzzcut hairpiece that had to be meticulously glued down over her natural hair and blended in order to get the shot.
There was *some* CGI. Mostly the cracks appearing on the Xenomorph when the water hits it, and I think the reflections when a prisoner throws a torch at it.
No fan should ever tell another not to watch something (unless it's gross in a truly disturbing way). Every movie has value even if it's a lesson of what not to do and to give fans a better appreciation of those that work. Alien³ also has value by not trying to mimic either of the first two films, instead delving more into a study of character, including the decision to break Ripley after surviving two encounters with the Xenomorph. It is also when they introduced the biological element of the Xenomorph taking on characteristics of the host. It's seen in a far more negative light that it deserves because most fans didn't like losing Reese and Newt, but I always appreciated such a bold decision. Losing Newt in particular also contributes greatly to Ripley's decision to sacrifice herself. If Newt was still alive she might have made the situation worse. The Assembly Cut is closer to the original Fincher version, but we will never get his true version since he refused to have anything to do with it after all the studio meddling. My personal collection includes Alien - The Director's Cut, Aliens - The Special Edition, and Alien³ - The Assembly Cut. The only other Aliens movie I have is Aliens vs Predator. It's fun and adds to the canon rather than ignore it.
I defend ALIEN 3 to this day. I don’t like every decision that was made, but that being said… The fact that we got a movie that makes sense, looks this beautiful and is this well acted in spite of the absolute hell its development was is nothing short of a miracle. Plus I find Ripley’s conclusion of her hero journey to be very appropriate considering how bleak the ALIEN universe has always been. She couldn’t change humanity, but she could give us a brief reprieve from destroying ourselves.
This was the Alien movie that was on TV the most when I was a kid in the mid-90's. Despite its flaws and its obvious downslide from the first two films, there are a ton of things I enjoy about 3. The score, set, color palette, and some of the imagery are really fantastic. Clemens and Dillon are great characters as well. I appreciate that you didn't stop at 2 like most channels do, and while I absolutely loathe the 4th movie, I'm looking forward to you getting to Prometheus and Covenant. One of the most fascinating characters in the franchise can be found there.
The video thumbnail to this video popped up, and I was happy to see someone react to Alien 3, as mosts reactors don't. None of the one who I have subscribed to have made a reaction to this one, even they did to the first two. And now you have on more subscriber because of that! Thanks for the reaction, will check out some of your other ones as well....
Thanks, Grizz! 👾 My problem with this one is that the character of 'Newt' was dispensed with. But when I look at the movie objectively, it has its good points, even great points... including Ms. Weaver's keen performance.
I like how you give these movies benefit of the doubt, regardless what ever was the reception. I like the series and I can still be flexible with it, and Aliens 3 is just fine as a sequel.
I read that Micheal Biehn was so pissed about them killing his character off he refused to allow them to use his likeness in the computer readout. For your edification, of course.
He was pissed not just because he wasn't in the film, but that he got word there was a full sized bust of himself (for his "death" scene) and that it looked like the chest was opened up. So he was doubly pissed that one- they were using his likeness without his permission and two- he believed he was going to be the source of the Alien in this film. There was back and forth between the studio and Biehn's agent who was threatening to sue. The studio asked if they could pay him- Biehn finally agreed they could use his likeness for enough money (his face on the computer screen) but "that *F'ING* alien does not come out of my chest!" He also said in hindsight that had he known that David Fincher would eventually become the director he is, Biehn would have allowed David to use his likeness for free as long as he cast Michael in one of his future films.
I feel like every movie moves progressively closer to the alien actually getting to earth.. in terms of environment and locations.. The first was on a spaceship, very far from earth.. second was on the ground, but still an alien planet, so still fairly far from earth.. this one was in a location that looked like earth, but wasn't, so getting closer :P
Funny fact, at the end of Aliens, the very end after the credits, there is a sound of an alien squirming around. Also, what is the best way to highlight that the xenomorph is the ultimate species and why the company fights so hard to get them? You kill everyone who thinks they got away. You make it so anyone, whoever it is, will die when they encounter an alien. They did the correct thing by killing them. Also, Sigourny Weaver said no guns and she needed to die at the end before she agreed to do the movie.
This was actually my favorite Alien movie. It made the Xenomorphs horrifying again. A continuation of James Cameron’s Aliens would have been predictable.
Contrary to popular belief there's actually only one shot of cgi in this film. When the molten lead is dumped on the Alien and jumps out. They douse it with water and the surface of his head cracks. That's the sole cgi shot, the cracks. CGI hadn't quite taken off yet back then. There's a pretty nice (and very long) video on RU-vid comparing all the differences between this and the Assembly Cut. There are some story differences between them, such as the alien birthed from an ox, not a dog. So no cgi you might say, then how did they do the alien, it's a lot of animatronics and rod puppets. I've always thought it was pretty decent looking in most scenes. When I originally saw it, it didn't stand out to me but much later viewings it just looks a totally different color than the rest of the scene. I dunno how I didn't notice it at all originally. And that's the problem, they did a bad job compositing it into the scene, and definitely screwed up the color correcting. In the Assembly Cut they redid these effects and it fits much better. I think they may had added just a tad bit of cgi because it was put together years later. But I think only to blend it in better. I like this movie, and though it's a shame about Hicks, Newt and Bishop, it didn't bother me so much they were killed. And at least it wasn't totally off screen as we did get flashes of what's going on at the beginning. I believe Michael Beign was paid to return as Hicks though he wasn't in the actual movie. I believe there was an interview he talked about it. Was kind of an odd story. Thank you for not listening to the nay sayers and watching this. I've seen lots of people enjoy these further movies in this franchise and also terminator, where you'll also have a lot of people tell you not to go beyond part 2. We're here for your reactions to things good or bad and not the nay sayers. I subbed to the channel when I saw the Thing reaction in my feed. Thats one of like 3 movies I'll sub to a channel when I see them, even if I don't watch anything on the channel right away. Which was the case here. Haven't watched anything yet, until I saw the Alien 3 reaction and your willingness to give it a chance has caused me to go back to your Alien/Aliens reactions before I watched this one. I'll check out some of your backlog from now on. Good reaction my good sir.
I'm glad that You gave Alien 3 a chance. Too many people don't watch anything after Aliens just because there's is plenty of folks that are hating those movies. And every movie of original quadrilogy is very different and every one of them is great on their own terms. Yeah, both 3 and 4 have their problems, but they are worth watching, very distinct films. I think that some people don't like them just because they are so different. Yeah, Ressurection have huge 90' B-movie energy, but within those confines it is amazing. With prequels I cannot say that they are good, but they are still interesting to watch, if only to see how father of the Alien lost touch with his creation. And still, both of them have some fascinating ideas.
The alien effects are more practical than you might imagine. There’s probably some CG involved with the masking and color grading of the creature, but it’s movement was actually done with puppetry. Kinda cool.
32.01 Fun fact - there is only one single CGI shot in this film and it comes right at the end, in the moment before the super-heated xenomorph shatters dozens of cracks radiate across its exoskeleton. A shot impossible to collect photographically using a physical prop. All of the scenes of the Alien running (when it isn't a guy in a suit) is rod puppetry photo-chemically composited onto the film reel. One of the reasons the effects don't quite hold up to modern eyes is running through shafts of light in dimly lit dark tunnels was pushing the limits of what could be achieved using photo-chemical composting. Photoshop's original release had only been in existence for about a year prior when this movie was being made. 1992 /1993 was a big year for CGI. 1993 Jurassic Park was released and when the T-Rex stepped out of that paddock back-lit in the rain - everyone saw the future. Alien 3 sits just the wrong side of the technological breakthrough. The rod-puppetry is some of the best you will see for that unusual gait, but after this the world went digital. And the fossilised remains of that innovation can be seen in the final moments of the alien.
I'm an avid Alien franchise fan and even though I find Alien 3 lacking, it does provide Ripley a full story arc. And Ripley stands with few others as fully developed characters in cinema.
Fun fact: One of the conditions Sigourney Weaver wanted to participate in this film was for her character to die. I still strongly suggest you watch the Special Edition of this film, as it is superior to the original cut. This movie went over many re-writes and problems with the script, to the point where a lot of it was done last minute.
Personally I liked this movie, regardless. The first two are the best. But I really like Alien 3. It's not a perfect film but I respect what they were trying to do. Ultimately, all the Alien films are good in their own way. Alien and Aliens being the best of the series obviously. As for Alien 3 Definitely Hicks and Newt being killed off felt wrong. Bishop too. I still like the movie though, Sigourney aka Ripley is still a badass and Charles Dance is a great presence in the film. a 7/10 for me :)
There is an alternate version of this film where the alien bursts from a cow or an ox. I always liked this film even though it isn't as good as the first two. Still fun.
Yes,the rest of the it's either Tom Woodruf I n the suit or a 1/6 scale rod puppet shot against bluescreen, which ironically ended up looking like CGI...
being someone who watched alien when it was released in 1979, i have watched every movie with ripley when released. i love each movie, even if i don't love everything in each movie. they each have a distinct tone, feel, personality, if you will, not really wishing to be repetitive as much as they obviously could be. i appreciate the mood of each one, and wouldn't change anything.
Because you gave this gem of a movie a chance, and went into it with a great attitude, you got yourself a new subscriber 🙌😂. I know even the director hates this movie, but I fucking love it
This is a really underrated movie, the best version for me is the Assembly cut. That is the version that is considered the closest to David Fincher's vision, although he declined to do a director's cut.
There was not cgi on the alien (only some shadows and the break effect at the end). It was a full body puppet, but the movie need more post production to mix the thing better. Another bullet on the hell that movie was to make
Note: Sigourney returning for this film had two stipulations she demanded herself. One is a sex scene with an alien and two Ripley's death. The studios shut down her sex idea (for this one at least) and honored her death request. The first scripts had Hicks as the new lead with Ripley taking backseat and Newt on Earth going to school.
The most frustrating thing about Alien 3 is that it’s not a “bad” movie… it has so many good ideas and scenes. It just feels “off”… somehow. And Newt, Hicks and Bishop deserved better 😬
If you haven't, I'd love to see your reaction to all the pitch black movies. They go the same route, starting off as sci-fi horror and going the action sci-fi route as the movies progress.
I love this movie so much. Severely underrated and underappreciated. All the issues people have with it I love it for. The first is horror, the second is action, and the third is a tragedy.
Sigourney Weaver was dead set against making this film unless they killed her off, which sealed Ripley's fate. Also it was her own idea to shave her head. However there was a clause in her contract that once filming ended and she started to grow her hair back, if any re-shoots were necessary and she would have to re-shave her head, she would be paid an additional $40 000 dollars. Of course re-shoots were necessary- so the makeup effects dept made an ultra realistic bald cap that cost $16 000, saving the studio $24 000.
When you see the extended cut it makes a lot more sense. Just reading the original story and damn wish they had done that instead. I do enjoy this movie though.
5:53 and you figured out why the audience had issues with it. I saw this in the theater but was 5 minutes late so missed the opening credits scenes. I was so confused and angry.
This film was supposed to be the final part of a trilogy. Sigourney Weaver had just had a baby April 1990 and was keen to conclude Ripley's story. The shoot started on 14th Jan 1991. Alien 3 has become the film I tend to watch the most, I love the cinematography. The film only employs CGI on the cracks that appear on the alien head towards the end. The effects team used a puppet for many of the shots mistaken for bad CGI by modern watchers. I think it is the compositing which was very sloppy that lets down perfectly decent puppeteering. As an aside, were you Kyle Katarn whilst reacting to The Mandalorian?
Funny how you keep commenting on "the cgi alien" and suggest they might've maybe done better using a composite, when in fact the alien never was cgi and it was literally a composited rod puppet. Only use of cgi in this movie was the cracks appearing in its dome when it was hit with the sprinklers and some flying debris in some exterior shots. That said, I did enjoy your reaction. Nice to see someone enjoying the film, being engaged and pointing out its strong points. I'd suggest you check out the assembly cut of this movie. It's the better edit and it's quite different to the theatrical. And it even has a little subplot that was completely omitted from the theatrical version. 👍
I love that the company lied to the very end: It was just another Bishop android, even though it said it wasn’t. (As clearly evident by it having half its head hanging off after getting hit directly with heavy pipe/wrench.) Ripley was DONE with that crap.
The Assembly cut is far better and has a more coherent plot. Weaver really didn't want to come back for a 3rd film - took some persuading, it was supposed to be a conclusion - interestingly she also insisted on no guns, not wanting another shoot em up movie, I really like this movie - it's supposed to be a resolution and it achieves that - it's also about sacrifice and courage - it's aged really well. It was shot in a disused power station - they are real environments.
"The CG doesn't look great" - that's not CGI. Computers weren't that powerful back then. That's the result of compositing a miniature puppet onto a scene and the lighting just didn't match all that great. They tried bringing the alien to life multiple ways in this film. Different life size puppets, a full on costume, miniature puppets recorded in real time and later composited, etc. At one point they even had a dog in a xenomorph costume, but I don't think it made the cut because it looked too silly.
Thank you, as always, for being open-minded towards anything you watch. Whether the eventual opinion is positive, negative, or somewhere in-between. You can always be counted on to be fair, and looking at the positives vs focusing on the negatives 🙂☺️🤘
you keep saying CGI, the alien was not CGI. The Dog Alien was a combination of a suit and a small scale rod puppet puppeteered against bluescreen and composited into the scene. and Alien 3 is a great Alien film with Weaver and Dutton (Dillon) being the best characters in the film. Alien films are supposed to be bleak, not a happy ending.
I think the point is that whatever method they used to animate the alien it looks a bit dated today, regardless of whether it's CGI or a composite image.
I very much dislike Alien 3 but can appreciate the things it does right. The sets are great, the cast is great, the alien mostly looks good and Fincher is a fantastic director as usual. What I hate is the story. It feels about as good as a punch in the gut. I’m not even upset about the death of Ripley. It made sense for her to sacrifice it all to wipe out the aliens and keep them out of the hands of Weyland. It’s the off screen death of Newt and Hicks that was the big slap to the face. Even the superior recut of the movie doesn’t save it from being a miserable experience. Oh well, I’m glad some people get some enjoyment out of it.
Her death is actually supposed to have happened much earlier. Ripley was supposed to have her head ripped off at the end of Alien and then the Xenomorph was supposed to talk to Mission Control on Earth to get approval to land in Ripley's voice. To get to an R rating AND because test screeners hated the ending it was reshot to get what we have today. This is the only film that I've been ok with both endings. Word of mouth on this one made me NOT watch it. Everyone hates Hicks and Newt dying offscreen, me included, but what made the movie trash for me was Ripley holding onto the alien that ripped through her chest. That would've been too much for anyone to live through and Then hold onto the chest burster until hitting the lake of fire below. Because of that I will never own a physical copy of Alien 3. Even if it's given as a gift I will "gift" it to Goodwill or Half Price Books. I see this movie as a cynical ploy to separate people from their hard earned dollars with a movie that hardly anyone would care about or want to see. If anyone out there truly likes this movie, don't let me spoil your party. Different strokes for different folks. I'm glad that You found it good for you. Happy viewings everyone.
One of the main reasons that Ripley dies is that otherwise Sigourney Weaver wouldn't do the movie. I really, really like this one, warts and executive meddling and all. Probably my favourite film of the franchise.
I loved Alien 3. Ripley being the sole survivor didn't bother me considering she was the sole survivor after Alien. Made sense to me 🤷🏾♀️I think it did a great job of following the narrative.
I don’t care what ANYONE says. This film is absolutely FANTASTIC, and pure “Alien,” through-and-through. As one of the biggest Alien fans EVER, this is the film that got me into the franchise.
I love this movie, I agree it not the best alien movie, I think most people cant look past them killing off newt and hicks before the movie even starts and just say the movie is bad because if it.
@@TheLiverpoolOwenI like that they killed off Newt and Hicks. It took everything from her, leaving her all alone, hopeless, and yet she still steeled herself to fight the Alien.
@@arndnaj oh i agree, i don't have a issue with them being killed off, i just understand why people would do. some people cant look past it and just call it a bad movie because the characters they enjoyed where written out of the movie. but the movie itself is actually pretty good, (minus some of the bluescreen and cgi effects looking dated), i wouldn't say its better than either of the first two, but better than people say.
Honestly, a couple of years ago i saw the assembly cut to this movie and I think it's immensely better. And while it doesn't put the movie exactly where the first two movies are. It kinda made this movie one of my favorites in the franchise. But i say, i am still upset about Newt and Hicks.
There is no CGI in ALIEN 3 Aside from less than 1 sec of the cracking of the alien skull by water. Resurrection would be considered the first cgu alien. The Assebly Cut does have CGI in it.
For a fun, short trailer that takes a more action spin to the film, check out the Alien 3 "Trailer C" that uses the "Bishop's Countdown" music from Aliens. Likewise, the teaser trailer is also an interesting curiosity- as it has the film taking place on Earth (which an earlier version of the film's script did). Whenyou get around to watching Alien Resurrection, it's also worth checking out the teaser trailer to that film afterwards, which is pretty famous itself (and introduced a Bishop's Countdown-like piece of trailer music titled "Code Red" that has been heavily used in trailers and TV spots ever since).
I always wondered what became of Golic in the theatrical cut? We all know what happened to him in the assembly cut..but theatrically he must still be trussed up in the infirmary. 😂
Good for you for not listening to all the naysayers. This film was a worthy successor to the first Alien film. As much as I love Alien 2, this was a true, nihilistic, horror, drama masterpiece. Much truer to the style of the original I believe. The CGI was definitely weaker but the actors made up for it. Great cast.
You really should've watched the Director's Cut version, the story makes much more sense in places with some extra backstory and motivations too, much better imo. Great reaction though, loved it.
Definitely watch the Assembly Cut as it adds a ton more to the story with some significant changes. Alien 3 is a great conclusion to what was the end of a trilogy IMO. They got rid of the big guns and brought it back to basics in a way. As you said, Ripley was never going to have a happy ending after all she'd been through and she went out a heroine.
no, this movie managed to disrespect the series in the first 3 minutes. I don't care about the performance and art direction after that - it took away the one thing that made this series unique. The way they built the second film off of the elements of the first, and rather than do that again - they just threw all that away. I'll never get over that. And in my opinion, the series never recovers.
"He's the Noonien Singh of this franchise..." - I think you meant Noonien Soong. Khan Noonien Singh was the genetically modified villain from Star Trek TOS and The Wrath of Khan. Dr. Noonien Soong was the creator of Data, Lore and the rest of the Soong androids. In this case Bishop is in fact the creator of the Bishop androids, though he has a much longer legacy than you know to the Weyland-Yutani Company. I'm excited for you to learn of this in future movies if you're willing to put up with some of the lesser entries in the franchise, or franchises I should say.
So, as others have pointed out before and after this: Alien 3 is divisive because it comes across very "mean spirited", rather than just the element of the series being cynical, due to killing off of Newt, Hicks, and Bishop, given everything that happened in ALIENS. It basically is if the beginning of ALIENS dream sequence was legitimate and went from there. It by itself is actually a pretty good movie, and serves as a decent end to the story of Ripley, but it's an awful sequel and in context it's really disrespectful to the characters and actors behind the scenes. (For example, Michael Biehn, the actor who played Hicks, refused to be in it due to the script just killing him and the others off like thar. They then tried to sneakily use his likeness for it without permission, and he threatened legal action and got a big payout and all they could do was show that digitized copy for his file. He even went on record and told the director to Fuck off when he called him to try and smooth things over about it.) That being said, I HIGHLY recommend checking out the story that followed ALIENS done in comics and novel form where instead Newt and Hicks survive and are just separated from Ripley instead. It's not amazing or perfect, but it's a HELL of a lot better than the treatment they got here, and falls in line much more appropriately with the cynical and dark themes of the series without being mean-spirited.
I didn't like this on release, but have come to appreciate it a little more with time. Great to watch it through your eyes, thanks! Yes, this was meant to be the last, but Weaver had a history of saying “Never again!” before returning. 3 isn't liked much but i think the controversial one is Alien Resurrection, that's a REAL love/hate thing! I LOVE it, for so many reasons, and even dig the ending (most don't). Great world building and a whole slew of fantastic characters. There's fun to be had in watching the kinda shaky AVP, but the real dud of the franchise(s) is AVP: Requiem. Still, once you've watched all the Alien and Predator movies you'd be daft not to. 😉
