Alien Romulus - THEORY TIME - Big Chap's Cocoon Vessel 

Tom Skerrit character "DALLAS" Muttering "KILL ME....KILL ME.." Still gives me goosebumpss.

I really like the idea of Big Chap being recovered and in a cocoon form. BUT finding him out in deep space would be near impossible. The salvage crew from Aliens was damn lucky to find Ripley, with most-likely the Narcissus having a homing beacon. My 2 cents.

It is fascinating just how much of the Alien's abilities( from this franchise) are still very mysterious, especially after all this time. So the idea that it could have a way to cocoon itself as protection, and go into a kind of deep sleep until some very unfortunate people stumble across it, seems like the sort of thing that - "The Perfect Organism" would /could do. I also watched many of these films as a kid. Great memories.👍

This would mean there's an alien queen floating around in space and AVP's queen at the bottom of the ocean, both waiting.

I was 5 years old when I saw Aliens with my dad back in 1988. I fell right in love with it. I remember the facehuggers scared the loving day lights out of me. Aliens has become my favorite movie of all time and I can't wait to see how they expand the story in aliens Romulus. Great video. I love your theories

I watched this when I was 7-8 as well. I’m now a horror movie junkie (but most of all, an Alien fan)….in my 30s.

What they could've done was make a film based on Waland Yutani's reaction to Ash's transmission of landing on LV426. The company secretly had to know they made contact and Cain was infected. "They got their prize" so to speak.

We have to remember that we've never actually seen a xeno shed it's skin on camera, I think this could well be that metamorphosis being shown for the first time. However having said that, I much prefer your theory of it being big-chap cocooned. Great video 👍🏻

The cocoon thing makes perfect sense, but the shedding image I reckon is the new xenomorph that came out of the bald girl. Seeing the chest burster to adult shedding process for the first time.

I don't think it's big chap anymore after watching Covenant. I think it's David's Protomorph. In the birthing scene, it has the same fingers as the big one in the trailer.

Cant wait for it... hope is not a disappoint as I really really love Alien!

That space rock in the chamber is the big chap in a coccooned state 😮

Xenomorphs transform the environment into their natural habitat... The idea of a Xeno enclosing itself in a cocoon to survive in extreme conditions is just great! It fits perfectly and naturally into the life cycle of this creature.❤

The Dog Alien in Alien 3 cocooned itself/shed its skin when Ripley went searching for it.Good YT video too👍🏼

Best analysis yet.

This is by far the most detailed spoiler I have seen so far regarding what the movie might be about, what is the "rock", how did they retrieve the alien, etc. and best of all it all makes perfect sense....also, I realize space is vast but I dont think Wayland Industries would have such a hard time finding a fair sized boulder floating in space "relatively" close to Nostromos shuttle

I know Romulus takes place between Alien and Aliens. Some reported plots of Big Chap being recovered in the form of a cocoon. Going to be very interesting to see how everything unfolds. So far the only connections to Prometheus and Alien Covenant we’ve seen in the trailers has been the android holding the black goo in the blue light and the face huggers developed outside the egg in some sort of plastic like the ones David snuck on board at the end of Covenant. Very curious if Weyland experiments on Big Chap by using the black goo increasing its height and strength. We could potentially see David and Ash’s work in the film. Another rumor I’ve heard is a possible CGI canon of Ash which would be awesome. Ash could’ve sent something to mother or back to headquarters right before he attacks Ripley. Last if big Chap can cocoon and survive in space then that means the queen from Aliens can do the same. God bless the writer who came up with this prequel idea for Romulus.

I can't wait!!! This is the most anticipated movie in ages.. I simply just can't wait anymore.. I want to see it now as in RIGHT NOW ! 😅😅

I believe it is not beyond Weyland-Yutani's means to find Big Chap. The Narcissus flight data records, which could easily be accessed remotely, would likely play a large part in narrowing down the sector of space it is in. Also, the grappling gun does NOT have trackers FFS.

1. ive never heard anyone suggest that Dallas was meant to be the host, but would explain why he was taken alive (tho not why he looked like he was morphing) and is a great explanation for that 2. i dont think alvarez will consider anything before Alien as canon for this film from what i've heard from him 3. i cant imagine a reason why they'd put a tracking device in a grappling hook, and to suggest that as an excuse as to how they could find big chap seems lazy and a bit insulting to the audience 3. i think an explanation that we may all be overlooking to those facehuggers is that theyre taken from the derilict on lv426 .... it would explain why there are so many

This speculation is one of the many gems that makes this particular film so eventworthy. Alvarez certainly has done his homework and he appears to be a FAN. Consequently Romulus could be a nice little teaser into more exposition by future movies. I'd like to see a variation on the premise by DelToro or Peele....the sky is the limit. If handled with some imagination and finesse. I have very high hopes for this presentation. Your overview and critique is very revealing....thanks for the pique of imagination...Kudos!

What a great observation.

"Geeky Details" are a good thing Dude. That's why I always take great interest in the extras of DVD and Blu-Ray releases and why I enjoy your work so much. All your speculation and thoughts here seem quite plausible. Won't be long till we know for sure.

No it doesn't make sense that a tracking device was on the hook! Is like having a airtag on my fishing rod so If I lose it I can search the entire ocean until I find it!!

I think that in part maybe its the Big Chap because Alvarez is going to be using a lot of Call Backs/Easter Eggs for Nostalgia. Having recover the original Big Chap may be COOL to some Fans as opposed to recovery of another Egg/Facehugger from Planet 4 or LV-426 (which to me those places would be the Companies first Port of Call). Another Easter Egg is the Blue Mist/Field as i suspect that this won't have any connection with the Derelict, it will just be something that looks similar as a Easter Egg

It's the newborn. He got blown out the window at the end of the movie, rebuilt himself and came back.

*SPOILERS* from leaks and one who watched it before they added VFX: *SPOILERS* Big chap is obtained in a fossilized form (the "rock" entering the hangar bay) cut open (movie picture with the hazmat suits moving the opened rock with the Big Chap on it) and the black pathogen (from Prometheus/Covenant) is extracted from it. The scientists then begin experimenting with the black substance and grow pods in incubation chambers developing facehuggers. The personnel onboard the station get facehugged (this is before our protagonists arrive) and chestbursted, leading into xenos inhabiting areas of the station.

Upon emerging from the cocoon, the fingers of the xeno's hands do not seem to match the joined fingers of the original 1979 creature. Also, the head looks somewhat different, despite any damage. If this is supposed to be the Nostromo alien, it should be copied exactly, all the way down to the stinger barb tail.

The Alien films in my opinion are v.thought provoking , i love every 1 of the films. Its nice to read and see your opinions and love for the alien films too .. im pleased to discover that my geekiness is mirrored in other peoole. Alien films and the thing are my best sci fi films of all time.

None of this matters - Everything depends on screenplay/dialogue and acting. Do you think Lord Of the Rings 2003 would have been a success if all actors had been teenagers?

Oh jeez…..great work

Oh, Big Chap.. the one that got away, along with the Queen. Alien Isolation’s Web Series (yes, I watched it) actually showed xenomorphs in a state of hibernation floating on debris. So, “the perfect organism” may have survived

I think that clip from the trailer with the cocooned Big Chap (speculation) is from much earlier than when the young crew arrives at the space station. When Fede says that Romulus takes place 10 years after Alien, that doesn't mean nothing happened before that, and in fact, Big Chap could have been captured by Weyland not long after Alien took place. Who knows how much surveillance the company had inside the shuttlecraft that Ripley pushed the Alien out of? For all we know, they were aware of what and when it happened, and they might not have been too far away from the Nostromo at the time of the event (weeks/months). It would be an absurd 1 to a billion (trillion?) odds if that floating rock with Big Chap just happens to fly by Weyland's spaceship years after Alien, if they weren't looking for it already. Now the one thing I don't get is, why would Weyland even need to capture Big Chap? They could just have gone to LV-426, since they already knew about the planet. Was it too risky? They couldn't find another expendable crew to send there and grab a few eggs? Unless they knew that Big Chap was floating around nearby anyway and went out to pick him up shortly after he got ejected it from the shuttle (saves them a trip to a dangerous planet for sure). Tbh I love that we don't know, and I can't wait to find out (please don't let us down) 🙏

That would be awesome if it was big chap in the cocoon . It’s good storytelling because the beginning of this a salvage team maybe finds big chap , and in Aliens a salvage team finds Ripley floating , and kinda like big chap , in a cocoon except hits a hyper sleep chamber in a ship . Two awesome parallels.

Thanks buddy

The alien is generally based around the general insect orders. -Exoskeleton -Queen laying vast amount of eggs. -Semi parasitising life span -multiple stage metamorphoses - chemical communication etc So it stands that an alien can secrete a protective cocoon to protect itself in the hostile environment of space. Various insects build casings to protect themselves using their own silk and other secretions, cockroaches and mantids lay ootheca, a protective casing that has compartments that hold eggs, and in the case of mantids that casing is a initially a secreted foam that sets hard. However it is my belief that these "perfect organisms" are vastly adaptive, and go with the theory that the derelict/jockey was in fact a large Alate( a winged ant/termite reproductive) type xenomorph, that gets created when the circumstances require it. Therefore giving the species a way to disperse on an intergalactic scale. My hypothesis is that when the xenomorphs have used up all of the resource in a particular location, Alates are created and they disperse. Yes this destroys the whole space jockey re-boot, but I'm more than happy to forget all that.

Not sure this is th Big Chap. The odds of finding such an object blown away from the Narcissus are astronomically high. The location of the Nostromo (still 10 months from Earth) and the direction the Alien was blown away in, tied in with the constant acceleration in space, indicates that it wold be impossible to find and that after decades, the creature would be millions of miles from that point. And the Company don't have the Narcissus' flight recorder at that point yet. The object we see being retrieved is intriguing, though.

Is it so hard to believe that WY could have been nearby LV-426 to observe the Nostromo and subsequent detonation? They could have seen Big Chap get blown out of the airlock and scooped him up shortly after. We don't know exactly when Romulus takes place, could be hours or days after the original Alien. They didn't care about Ripley so they just let her drift away, they got their prize.

I always felt that the xenomorph uses the gallons of mucous it secretes as a type of epoxy. It’s possible that it starts a chemical reaction to harden after secretion. We know for sure the mucous looks to be very watery around the mouth but after being on a surface for a bit it gets very viscous and sticky.

Here's a theory i haven't heard: What are the chances that the original Ash, being a synthetic generally ignored by xenos and also being the most invested in the xeno lifecycle, implanted or attached a tracking device of some kind to the xeno itself? Maybe he lied or omitted key details about the tracking device he built being micro changes in air density and the alien had something on it from him the whole time. It would be completely in line with his orders and objective.

Great theory video, I remember seeing this creature in the BBC's Frozen Planet series. It felt like an oddity in nature then and I think that it fits in with Xenomorph's other bizarre abilities such as it's life cycle, reminiscent of the Cotesia glomerata wasp and also the alien's accelerated growth and healing abilities.

You guys want a spoiler??? The bad guy in this movie isssssssss: the cyborg!! (the black dude who says "run!" in the trailer - obviously a synthetic) Why? cuz it almost always is when Ridley Scott is involved. Plus this movie takes place before Alien 2, where Bishop claims synthetics are now no longer able to harm humans. So this is possibly another wild synthetic like Ash. This new synthetic probably picked up the order Ash was given + the data Ash probably uploaded after investigating the alien. Ash might of placed a tracker on the Big Chap somehow too, this makes it very easy for the new synthetic to track it down, and sneak it in to the spaceship. One more vibe/speculation: the scene where the black synthetic says "run" he's doing that to herd human to a certain direction that's gonna make it easier for him to achieve his (Weyland Yutani's) objectives. In general it looks like this movie will have a lot less philosophical elements (nothing new outside of what Ridley created) and play more with the horror/action elements to the 80's 90's Hollywood perfection. Kinda like TopGun 2 Maverick? Anways, CAN'T WAIT.

This might be the process of the Alien getting bigger, after being a chest buster we never see the next stage of growth development , this might be this .the part we see it opening itself out .

Great analysis….

How many of us here became acquainted with Big Chap in our early childhoods? How many were scared, and how many were disturbed yet still somehow fascinated by its appearance?

Exactly what I said on Alien Thoery and Mr.H’s posts two weeks ago.

I'm conflicted about the original Alien playing a role in Romulus. For me, it diminishes Ellen Ripley's struggle and survival from her first encounter with the Alien. All she went through seems pointless if the Alien still triumphs in the end and others continue to die because... she jettisoned it into space after burning it with the thrusters? I’d prefer Romulus to be a stand-alone film, free from the need to delve into every detail of the lore. This is where I think Prometheus faltered - it tried to innovate, and I loved how it felt like a unique addition to the Alien universe. However, once the Engineers and the black goo were introduced, the film lost its mystery, wonder, and fear. Everything had to be explained. The original Alien film was scarier because it left so much unexplained. The mystery of the Space Jockey, how it encountered the eggs, and what burst out of it was more terrifying because we were left to imagine it. Not knowing is scarier.

i like the idea of a scene where we see the pipes along the back, secreting its web/goo cocoon stuff....very cool n alien if done right ;)

The only thing not going for this theory is that in the alien novel, big chap was described as being blown to chunks by the thrusters.

I'm a huge alien fan i love this franchise dearly i have high hopes for this movie it looks really good i was very excited for covenant but got massively disappointed so hopefully this will help the franchise

Perfect organism

My guess is”Big chap” won’t be on it. It’s rather unbelievable. My point being they were still hunting it by Alien 3 Tardigrade’s can survive so much stuff! Radiation, massive heat, all sorts. One test showed it was almost Lava level heat to kill it!!!

When I heard that Big Chap may be coming back and saw the floating rock in the trailer I thought that would HAVE to be him if he is really back!

Could Big Chap have shed it's cells and replaced them with polarized silicon to give it a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions ultimately resulting in this cocoon? Or perhaps more likely secreted resin from the mouth spun into a cocoon the same way a hive is shaped. I would say no to moulting. Fascinating and believable aspect of the Xenomorph. Love the cryptobiosis theory! My Dad let me see ALIEN when I was 9. I've been fascinated by it ever since not including the silly/ridiculous/comedic/not believable aspects and entries in the series i.e. AR and the like.

Creepy science 😮 A xenomorph king would be an excellent idea and one that we have not yet seen.

Considering what was revealed of the plot, I don't think it's a theory, it's obviously a protective cocoon and when it occured to me, I thought it was brilliant and kind of made biological sense.

If that’s big chap it’s essentially the same level fuck up as Rafael Andolini being a french trapper in Montana 1720

Like a cicada. Live Fast, Die Loud, and Leave a Beautiful Exoskeleton. The claw or foot or whatever unfurling itself out of the ooze definitely looks like something emerging from a cocoon. Flight data on the Narcissus would get them in the general vicinity of the Big Chap and they got Narcissus. What is she shooting that's in the cage and why does she appear to be tied up at the end? This is a tale of two space stations as well, one having older tech, the other newer and Alvarez pointed out that Romulus killing Remus in the Roman myth has symbolic weight here.

They just found Ripley in Aliens but then she had been drifting thru the system for 57 years whereas Big Chap qould be nearer where the Nostromo went bang so sorta in the space lane so maybe found/stumbled upon easier?

They need to introduce a new alien species, but something very horrific

I dare to theorize that WY knew exactly what was going on on the Nostromo and the Narcissus. They also knew the trajectory of the Narcissus...and therefore the approximate direction of the xeno. There's nothing impossible about that...mathematical surface calculation. It even makes sense that they found the xeno before Ripley, since the Narcissus traveled a much greater distance than the drifting alien due to its mechanical propulsion...

Space 1999 Dragons Domain episode started this zaniness, blame Chiellini for his quest. I believe that the jockey and alien are really HR Giegers "nuclear children " and Gieger fine tuned them.🤔👍

As soon as i saw the preview and it showed them bringing that specimen onboard the ship I KNEW that the big chap theory was correct.

If you read the heavy metal graphic novel adaption of alien there is a scene where Ripley finds the big chap contorted into a cocoon shape and as she runs away it remorphs into its humanoid shape.

Dan O' Bannon stated the creature has a short life span in fact when Ripley discovered the alien in the lifeboat it was seeking a quiet place to die.

As a child of the 90s, I don’t remember a time in my life that I wasn’t aware of Alien, Terminator, Predator, Return of the Living Dead, or Michael Myers. Great parents indeed. Although my dad did cover my eyes in theaters when we saw Starship Troopers. I guess he wasn’t expecting some of those shower scenes. Too much for a 10 year old?

"Yeah but... Secreted from what?"

Yep ... I agree

The novelization clearly says the xeno from Alien was not only incinerated but sucummed to the laws of physics and exploded into millions of bits. If an alien is in the cocoon maybe it's one of David"s creations and alsohas some black goo with him

If the original Alien/Xeno could cocoon humans, why couldn't it cocoon itself for hibernation in deep space?! I'm so excited for this movie!

It’s the alien that was hiding in Ripleys evac pod, it was blown out and since it survives in space it eventually cocooned itself. Sometime in space it changed its sex and started reproducing “queen” and then died. The eggs survived in the the protective cocoon and form the queens pouch. Once obtained by the company, they slowly extracted the eggs where everything went downhill

Maybe the whole shuttle, & space station looking like an escape option out of their limiting life, was a set up / trap by the Company, so that they became the food/host for the xenomorphs ?

The newborn if he reached adulthood would have been unstoppable

If big chap is out there then so is the Alien queen that Ripley blew out into space in Aliens 2.

What I have been thinking is that instead of "castes" what we have is different xeno variants for each egg on the derelict, much like variants of the jars in Prometheus. Some eggs may not spawn xenos like an ant colony at all and that the big chap isn't like that at all.

Remember what Ash said… Perfect organism

Watching the footage again, I love the little details especially the face hugger attempting insertion. But this made me think about its mechanics. I'll assume its cut here but when he resists will the hugger tighten its tail around the neck to make the victim gasp opening their mouth? 🤔

Dude, please don’t call it a safe space. Nobody is going to get stabbed on the comment section. Good video man.

What are the chances of finding ‘big chap’ in space? Next to zero, if the Big Chap theory holds, Weyland Yutani should have had knowledge of where in space to find it. Since that is unlikely since Ash didn’t have a chance to report any of this and Ripley was found decades later, all this needs some explanation to make it make sense.

At the end of Alien the creature nestled itself between the pipes in the ship, probably beginning the process you are talking about. It has never been mentioned or described, the creature must have a life cycle and this process may be something it does at the end of its life cycle to rejuvenate itself.

If this is what happens to the xenomorph while in space, then the queen from Aliens is also still alive... She was also blown out of the Sulaco...

I've got you beat. I saw Alien when I was 6.

If they really did go the big chap in cocoon route well then there is a big ole queen floating around post aliens

There is a twist at the end of the movie . In terms of something new . There may be more than the big chap to contend with.

i'm wondering if maybe ash was under orders specifically from Romulus or at the least was involved/had knowledge of it's existence and whatever it is they were doing there and maybe that's how they knew where to look for the cocoon/asteroid

moment in the trailer where the android touches the blue fog in his right hand there is a reservoir inside of which there are flasks with black liquid, so that the black liquid will make itself known

You are over thinking it. Just like in Alien Resurrection; where a crisp Ripley was able to be cloned; same here with the Alien that was blasted into bits in Alien. A charred Alien piece allowed Weyland Yutani to be able to clone Alien DNA.🧬

Some lore has single xenomorphs can become a queen. That would explain the facehuggers.

Just one thing. Didn't Big chap enter the lifeboats rocket engines once he was forced out of the lifeboat? And didn't Ripley push the ignition burning him to a crisp?

@4:55 a leaker for the movie on RU-vid confirmed that Big Chap is not in the trailers thus far, therefore this alien here can't have been Big Chap

We got the euros, to distract us 4 a month. Thank god.

It’s the original xenomorph from alien in hibernation shell caught and bioengineering face huggers from its dna

It may be that xenomorphs can change sex under harsh conditions. So maybe Big Chap turns into a new queen. Thus eggs and face huggers.

Coming out of the cocon. Hands on it head.

I think its a chestburster molting into an adult!

Aaagh, these trailers spoil movies. Can’t resist watching them but they give so much away. Miss the enjoyment of going into a movie having no idea what it’s about.

You made think does every alien shot and killed in aliens actually not a kill maybe they will get back up later on like if that’s the case big chap took a. Harpoon rocket engine and then cocooned himself. We now would need to figure out their true weak spots

If it is the big chap, i think from some of the shots it may have, or will, molt into a queen

Im all aboard with the return of the big chap. But it’s importen to not forget the title of the movie and that tells us that Romules is the spawn of the wolf mother. I assume the wolf mother is the big chap and Romules is the engineered spawn of the big chap. My thoughts offcourse😎

Man you are a friggin genius everything you said makes so much sense now since I watched the new trailer ! I've loved this movie series ever since the first one and then I found out there was 3 more already made but, aliens being my most favorite then covenant, and I love playing aliens fireteam elite it really makes me feek like I'm in the movie especially when tje shit hits the fan and you panic xD best series with amazing lore and history h.r.giger could never have predicted that thos would become into cult-like if it isnt already. Like the bar in New york completely modeled after aliens it's beautiful Google it I think it's call alien h.r.giger bar or something