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All 2022+ Subaru WRX Intakes NEED A Tune... (Perrin vs AEM vs ETS) 

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All 2022+ Subaru WRX Intakes NEED A Tune... (Perrin vs AEM vs ETS)
If you are thinking about an aftermarket intake on your 2022 Subaru WRX or your 2023 Subaru WRX watch this first. The Perrin Intake, AEM intake, and ETS intake all likely need a tune to run at the comfort level of most owners.
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@KingNoahJM
@KingNoahJM 4 месяца назад
Been running Perrin on VB 22 for 55k miles, daily driver, no issues. I push it pretty hard quite often but nothing like track driving. If you're in a similar situation, you're fine.
@jdyeetyaww
@jdyeetyaww 4 месяца назад
Did you tune it? I want to put the Perrin intake in as they swear you don't need a tune. If the engine goes under warranty couldn't I simply remove the air intake and then take it to Subaru? If I don't tune it how can they ever know there was the intake mod
@worldofnateg
@worldofnateg 22 дня назад
@@jdyeetyaww The Perrin intake piping is the same diameter as OEM so you're safe without a tune. They even back it up on their website. Would you see over 300hp to the wheels with a Perrin intake and tune? Absolutely. But for those like me that don't want to put their factory/extended warranty at risk by tuning their VB, the Perrin intake is the perfect application.
@jonnyftw1441
@jonnyftw1441 Год назад
I’ve had my mishimoto intake sitting in my closet for months until just recently 😁 told myself i wouldnt install it until I was ready to tune it and i’m now tuned for it by drunkmann tuning and i love it!
@AutoEnthusiast
@AutoEnthusiast Год назад
Nice! What numbers are you running?
@jonnyftw1441
@jonnyftw1441 Год назад
@@AutoEnthusiast it’s just an ots tune with proper maf scaling for the intake. Im pushing 18.5 lbs of boost!!
@valmemo1
@valmemo1 9 месяцев назад
So I want to go with the mishimoto intake as well, would I be ok with a cobb tune?
@jonnyftw1441
@jonnyftw1441 9 месяцев назад
@@valmemo1 I personally wouldn’t run the cobb tune with any aftermarket intake because the cobb stage 1 tune is designed to run on a completely stock car. Drunkmann Tuning makes a good on the shelf tune for the mishimoto intake. Ran it for a while no issues but i am now custom tuned.
@valmemo1
@valmemo1 9 месяцев назад
@jonnyftw1441 nice, appreciate the advice. New to this so trying to learn as I go 👍🏽
@ulyssesphani4770
@ulyssesphani4770 28 дней назад
Great content. You cleared up my confusion on the choices on intakes. I’m now proceeding with an intake and Cobb tune .
@AutoEnthusiast
@AutoEnthusiast 26 дней назад
Nice! What year are you driving?
@JordieG8
@JordieG8 9 месяцев назад
Ohhh boy. The FA’s have full time closed loop fuel control, I don’t know what Subispeed is talking about.. They will adjust fuel delivery based on the output from the oxygen sensor compared to the target lambda value (that means AFR). There are limits to the amount of correction that can be applied however, they’re pretty large. Replacing the factory intake with an aftermarket intake will affect the accuracy of the MAF unless the manufacturer has specifically designed their intake to closely match the factory intake’s airflow over the MAF, which I’m guessing a lot of them have. This isn’t an EJ which uses open loop at high load/rom and had no ability to correct a lean or rich condition. People reporting “knock “ with certain intakes is purely confirmation bias, the FA’s have an extremely active knock control system with many variables. That being said, should you have the MAF table calibrated for an aftermarket intake? OF COURSE! You want to rely on the accuracy of the calibration and not the ability to correct. I’m not getting after you because your message is wrong it’s just inaccurate as fuck. Subispeed said several contradictory things in that video.
@SpecOpsDad
@SpecOpsDad Месяц назад
Im confused so manufactures make these products for example perrin with their air intake that says its "designed to run like the stock air intake" no tune needed and no risk of damage to engine. If this isnt true wouldnt perrin and/or other companies who make producs like that run the major risk of lawsuits because their products would be the direct cause of a engine failur?
@donnygomez4547
@donnygomez4547 7 месяцев назад
i just pit intake to get the flutter i dont really care about power as of now😂
@CAZALOBO
@CAZALOBO 7 месяцев назад
An intake will void my warranty so I just have an AEM drop in. I did notice a little more performance and intake sound.I'm assuming my car won't be running lean at higher rpms with just a drop in.
@SubieLifeG13
@SubieLifeG13 7 дней назад
Good info✊🏿
@Ninja__247
@Ninja__247 9 месяцев назад
Great video, Love it. From Plymouth, Mass, 22' WRX Orange.
@AutoEnthusiast
@AutoEnthusiast 9 месяцев назад
Love the local subie!
@Sope-gj2ki
@Sope-gj2ki 7 месяцев назад
It’s confusing because some say there Perrin intake is not running lean after 6000 miles and then others say to tune it
@imoffendedthatyouareoffended
@imoffendedthatyouareoffended 7 месяцев назад
Those saying it’s not running lean have 0 idea, they aren’t actually monitoring anything. Chances are they don’t even have an accessory to monitor anything including the access port. Just because it’s not throwing a code doesn’t mean the cars running optimally. It tries to change the parameters to be more acceptable but it’s still running wrong.
@Hendizel
@Hendizel Год назад
What I want to understand is if you add a intake and you get a tune are you then loosing your factory mpg under normal driving? Or are you gaining or staying the same because now you have more air and fuel? Maybe I answered my own question lol
@chrischarles9218
@chrischarles9218 Год назад
Go watch HeavyMetalWRX RU-vid Channel Tuner Talk with Graham from Boosted Performance. He goes into great detail about tunes and gas millage.
@johnmarksonico7606
@johnmarksonico7606 10 месяцев назад
I just had 2023 wrx and im planning to install perrin intake my wrx is stock and been driving this car with care. my max rpm is 3000 to 3500 and crossing aroung 2700 rpm. is it ok to install perrin intake?
@AutoEnthusiast
@AutoEnthusiast 10 месяцев назад
Why not just tune it? (I ask playing devils advocate to asking - why install an intake?)
@d--om489
@d--om489 8 месяцев назад
@@AutoEnthusiastfor warranty reasons obviously
@destructor1794
@destructor1794 4 дня назад
I think it would be fine unless your flooring it all the time
@emmalab02
@emmalab02 Год назад
Will removing the charcoal filter in the OEM air box cause as much leaning out as the two aftermarket air boxes which claim to not need a tune?
@alexstowee22
@alexstowee22 Год назад
A charcoal filter will not change anything, that’s an easy adjustment that the car can make. All it does is lower emissions. It adds a little more gulp noise and that’s it
@maxcusumano5188
@maxcusumano5188 Год назад
I think the only way to improve stock flow safely without a tune is with a drop in filter. I ordered cobbs a couple days ago and should be in soon
@AutoEnthusiast
@AutoEnthusiast Год назад
I mean the big thing here, is you don't want to change the flow, the more it changes, the more it effects the dynamics of the car.
@wazzy336
@wazzy336 11 месяцев назад
i wouldnt even risk it these cars are so sensitive. they are absolutely fantastic if tuned correctly but if they arent it can end up causing some big issues
@SuzukiKid400
@SuzukiKid400 5 месяцев назад
@@AutoEnthusiast”affects the dynamics of the car”? What does that even mean. You mean you will flow more air and run lean? The dynamics being the MAF and ECU programming using that MAF closed loop.
@Mikenourse4
@Mikenourse4 7 месяцев назад
Is the mishimoto intake fine without an intake?
@sushivert
@sushivert 7 месяцев назад
you mean without a tune ?
@Mikenourse4
@Mikenourse4 6 месяцев назад
@@sushivert yea
@sushivert
@sushivert 6 месяцев назад
@@Mikenourse4 No, mishimoto said themselves that they don't recommend using the cold air intake without a tune.
@obamacare7751
@obamacare7751 Год назад
Thoughts on mishimotos no tune intake? 😅
@AutoEnthusiast
@AutoEnthusiast Год назад
Same as the above 3 in reality… is that what you are running?
@obamacare7751
@obamacare7751 Год назад
@@AutoEnthusiast I'm not that brave, im running that 7yr/100,000 mile warranty
@tastyautomotive5619
@tastyautomotive5619 Год назад
I am running the mishimoto intake on a stock tune. Judging by their website showing the AFR’s, it does not go higher than 14/1. Stoich is considered 14.7/1, anything higher than that is considered “lean”. So in my opinion, seeing that it does not actually run lean, but just slightly leaner than the stock intake, it is safe to run on stock tune. I would be worried if i seen that graph move up higher than 15, which it does not. Sh*t on me all you want, but its an opinion of an automotive tech.
@tastyautomotive5619
@tastyautomotive5619 Год назад
@@obamacare7751 s
@SuzukiKid400
@SuzukiKid400 5 месяцев назад
@@tastyautomotive5619good technical opinion! I’m on board with you sir.
@ROBBBIIINNN
@ROBBBIIINNN Год назад
I installed my ETS intake when it first launched and I lost an entire pound of boost,I still havent tuned it til this day but I emailed them about it and nothing was done.Even after I got a Lean Code and went to the dealer for the Diag.
@twkdfz
@twkdfz Год назад
Not tuning it is your issue
@WallsAndFoundations
@WallsAndFoundations Год назад
I got the ETS intake on mine as the biggest pull was me getting whoosh sounds and some louder induction. At launch, ETS stated no tune needed. A year's worth of running it and finally got a CEL for P0068. I never cared if it got me more power or nah but I do wanna be reliable. I'm gonna get ETS's MAF sleeve and if my CEL comes back after installing that, then I'll be going back to stock with a drop-in filter til I get a tune. Kind of a bummer but it is what it is.
@michaelrich7466
@michaelrich7466 4 месяца назад
@@WallsAndFoundationsdid you get the sleeve? If so, did the lean code come back?
@WallsAndFoundations
@WallsAndFoundations 4 месяца назад
​@michaelrich7466 yes sir to the sleeve, no to the code. Car has been running fine and haven't gotten any hiccups since installing and clearing the old code. So far so good!
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