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Timestamps: 3:48 - Calories are the best deadlift accessory 5:48 - 7:25 Divebomb Pulls don't always work 7:25 - 8:08 - Vertical Shins is a good cue for lifters with long torsos, short arms 8:08 - 10:34 Short Torso, long legs = more leg drive 10:34 - 13:25 long torso, short arms = good squat, tougher deadlifts 13:25 - 15:12 Leverages are RULES, not Death Sentences 15:12 - 16:56 Example 1 Extra Long Arms, longer torso Deadlift 16:56 Long Arms, Forward knees, short Torso deadlift 17:36 Short Dude with long arms, and a short torso 17:36 -23:23 Less Obviously Advantaged Deadlifters 23:23 - Long Arms, Short Legs = Squatty Deadlift 25:55 - Long Torso, Short Legs = You need to develop upper back and midsection (abs, low back) and legs 28:20 - Short Arms, Long Torso, Short Legs
That is the best breakdown on deadlifting among differently-structured athletes I've seen yet. As a human spider, I find the "build your upper back" advice very helpful. In hindsight, the stronger I make that, the easier my deadlifts get.
Ed Coan is an extreme outlier. He is somehow built for all 3 lifts. Of course, his deadlifts and squats are unreal, but his bench is underrated. He was so thick and had those freaky leverages.
Isn’t the average person pretty well proportioned for all three lifts? Just being average is best. Coan is more built for deadlifting but as you say compensated in the bench by being so barrel chested
1 million subs: makes a short about how to deadlift for beginners 50k subs: makes 30 minute long video about all the things you need to now for deadlift
Well why would those millions of beginners watch this video? If anything you should feel special because the fact that you’re here means that you’re far from a beginner.
Yeah, that's a LOT of hip flexion to get to the bar. Can't squat into it too much because the shins will push the bar forward, so you have to accept your pull will essentially be a deficit stiff-leg. All is not lost, you just have to commit to getting the world's strongest hammies lol
@@AlexanderBromley You look like you are in that case, when I look at your deadlift at 30:21 your torso seems pretty short compared to your legs, but your arms look very short too. You can compare with Klokov for example, is torso is almost as long as his entire leg
@@AlexanderBromley Would you rather have a better starting position and have the bar further away from you or would you rather have the bar closer to you and a worse starting position ? In this case
@@ZenithAngel With the bar further away you are in a big disadvantage , so your torso has to be more horizontal or just switch to sumo like me best decision i've made about training , no more back pain and instantly stronger deadlift .
liked and subscribed for consistently being clear and informative. Another thing i greatly appreciate from this channel is the lack of antics. I'm not a child and i don't need jokes interspersed throughout an informative video to keep me interested. I appreciate that you are just giving the info and not wasting time with gimmicks, costumes, intros and things. That is truly rare. It's not dull or boring it's just a straight shot for what I came to see.
Really good video thank you so much! I think a lot of people would find value in another video breaking down what training plan suits each limb length/leverage.
Hello sir it's been long time , since you last uploaded a video. I genuinely love the knowledge you pass through your channel . Want to know more about the sport from you so please keep uploading.
Glad to see the gods among men are also struggling to some extent w progress, I hope to be as strong as you one day man thanks for all the content you should make a program I know it would blow up fast as shit bro
this is so interesting! i noticed i have short(er) arms and torso in comparison to my legs, so i found a wide stand way more comfortable otherwise i was nearly squatting to reach the bar :) this small change made my deadlift days so much more efficient
Great video! I am in the long torso camp (5' 7" and need extra tall shirts to tuck them and with 27" inseam). My best deadlift was with a very erect snatch grip set up. Thanks for the extensive info!
I always gain more insight into the biomechanics and techniques of lifting from watching your videos, I would love to see a similar video about the leverages for squats! You fuckin rule dude!
This was a really enjoyable watch. I am always in that camp where I desperately want to enjoy deadlifts but literally never do because I come away beat up with my knees and back killing and making me glad I don't have to deadlift again for a week. I am so close to a 600lbs pull but even then for my size that would be very average weight wise. The main point I'm going to take from this is to focus again on that vertical shin and getting more weight behind the bar (I have a lot of shoulder over the bar).
Your timing could not have been better! I've been struggling with deadlifts lately. Can't do them without pain. Just watched a few of your other breathing and bracing and deadlift videos an hour ago. Looking forward to this one!!
Phenomenal video. I am long torso and relatively good squatter and I don't think anyone out there has covered strategies for lifters like me anywhere near this well.
Oh my god, I've never understood why my conventional deadlift was so taxing before, but even with a rounded upper back the bar is almost in my hip! I used to deadlift once a week had to take the next 2 days off to recover and still felt worn out the third day. When I used to powerlift I switched to sumo (vertical body position saved my low back) and could pull twice a week without issue. I've never known why before!!
Thank you so much for this content. I am all disadvantaged with shorter limbs longer torso. I do the same, do squat with half of the deadlift movement with hips all the way down.
I'm 36 and pulling has been a lifelong problem for me. I always did divebomb style because I felt like I couldn't get into position and "stay there" thanks to a very long torso and long femurs (so basically just short shins), AND short arms. This is a godsend.
I have done sumo deadlifts for 1.5 years now, got to a 495 sumo pull. Your video helped me realize that I am not built for sumos at all, but I realized through comparison, that I am very similar in conventional starting position to Cailer Woolam. OMW to 545 pull now.
How do I like a video twice? I'm relatively new to lifting for strength as my main goal and this was super informative, I always knew I had a longer torso and couldn't pull much more than I was squatting but now I understand a lot better why and how to improve, thanks great content!
This explains somuch for me, my arms are long, but my torso is really long. I'm 37 and DLs have always been a struggle to really drive the legs, and now I feel like I understand why...I've essentially been doing an RDL this whole time by trying to emulate lifters with short torsos....and squatting has always felt a lot easier for me
I've been dealing with painfully slow DL progression for a long time to the point that my squat is actually about 5-10% higher than my DL depending on the day. Lockout for DL is just under my hips, and I have to focus really hard on keeping my entire trunk stable, specifically mid to upper back (belt way up high helps). I never realized I was a long torso/short limb lifter. This makes so much sense.
I absolutely love these breakdowns. I am prepping for my first powerlifting meet and know that I am already a 1000 pound total. After watching these similar videos on Bench and Squat I was immediately able to apply some of these principles. I have a very long torso and short legs so i understand the pain of the wrong pull from the start and the frustration of failing over and over and not knowing why. Only to try Sumo for a few weeks and pull equal to my conventional 1RM?!?!? I now understand why and see I have huge potential. Thanks for the great content!!!!
On Week 3 of Wave 2 of your novice progression from Peak Strength. Not a novice proper but coming back from major injury. Deadlifts were always my worst lift but with this program they're my EASIEST
Pretty awesome. Still not perfectly sure how to setup with my long arms, short legs (but with relatively long femurs) and long torso, but I got a bunch of tools to help me figure it out
I really love the editing for this video, things felt smooth and clear. I can tell you put a bit more effort into that than previously and it’s paid off
Mr. Bromley your content is really amazing and so interesting and captivating,,, I say it (it will sound so strange) as a 34 year old man who has just dead lifted and squatted for 4 reps each in all his life, truly,, I have only trained bodybuilding style mainly in machines and calisthenics. i can't wait to put my life in order and start lifting asap. Most of what I watch in your channel is quite difficult to fully understand, for me now (not surprisingly), but I am grateful I got to know about you from Geoffrey Verity Schofield and I try to get as much as possible
This was helpful information. I am reevaluating my form in general. I've dropped 30+lbs (which I am not planning on gaining back) and my numbers have dropped. Strangely my lift/bodyweight ratio is still about the same. I think looking at optimizing my form for my new body composition is a good idea.
Hey Alex - Great video! What sort of programming would you recommend for an athlete who competes in an another sport who wants to get stronger? For example, I train BJJ 6x per week and compete regularly. Need a routine that's not going to interfere with my recovery too much. What would you recommend?
Another great Video Bromley. I got the base strength. Finishing soon, and gonna grab the peak strength. I improved on my brace, and put on ten pounds. My deadlift went up thirty pounds. I probably could of went up more, but my hamstrings took days to recover. Appreciate the content you been putting out. Really helped with improving my weight training. Reducing fatigue and injury.
Missing the weekly videos, really enjoy your content! What do you think you would do in your next posts? Can you do more program reviews? Would love to hear you review: Dogcrap training, PHAT, PHUL, Ivysaur Intermediate, Jacked n Tan / GZCL and Jon Anderson's Deep water and a bunch more programs! Also what do you think of: -Wolfman's 9 week strict press plan (it's a youtube video) -Mythical strength's book of bad ideas -Some of the Bill Star articles e.g. the quest for a stronger overhead press Also thank you so much. I've learnt a ton from this channel and it's been super entertaining
12:58 So true. My deadlift locks out at the hips, so I consider myself as the right drawing (long torso, shorter limbs). I love squats and hate deadlift.
Thanks man, been struggling with my deadlift recently and this cleared some of my questions/issues up. Is the forum on your website still up or has that been switched over to facebook?
I have short T-Rex arms so the bar is literally at my groin when I finish a Deadlift. When I see other people DL and the bar is way below their groin I can understand why they're pulling so much more than me.
I have long arms which is great, I also have a really long torso, so my ROM is ridiculous and also smashes my nuts on lockout 😂 watch some people deadlift and finish halfway down their quads! Wish mine did 😂
As a relatively short lifter at 5'8, I struggle to choose between sumo and conventional. Sumo feels more explosive at the beginning of the lift but the lock out is a grind. While conventional feels harder to explode at the beginning but so much stronger lockout power.
My deadlift went up really quickly and became more comfortable when I basically turned it into a squat, i.e. starting with my hips really low. I definitely fall into the long leg long torso camp.
I have short torso, long femur and long arms. My set up is like, very horizontal back angle and high hip position at the start. Lookout is at mid thigh. pulling mostly from the back, but erectors are never sore. I can deadlift 105kg for 6 reps at body weight of 58kg. I can also do sets of 4 reps of barbell rows at 75kg using little bit momentum like powerlifters and not strict version.
I'm so glad you talked about the roundness of the upper back. I've disagreed with advice given on this subject since the early nineties. No one, proficient in manual labor as a living etc., lifts with an erect spine, unless it's a quarter squat pattern. No one. We do however brace the shit out of the "core."
32 minutes 39 seconds of greatness,I myself am a messed up gorilla shape 5 10 height short legs long torso but really short arms the bar finishes above my goods a mix of gorilla and T Rex my torso is really bent over I struggle keeping a brace and a flatish back never feel my glutes or hams like u said but lower back and erectors ache for days
