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All About frame JIG's and why your Restoration Project needs one!!! 

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On this video I go over different versions of frame JIG's in the shop and why we use them. I also show how you can build a frame JIG for your project that will keep your car from having major issues down the road.
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@67Swepty
@67Swepty Год назад
Really want to do my own metal restoration after watching your videos. Love how you thoroughly explain the process with reasoning behind it. You really do make it look simple. Keep up the content!
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
Thank you!. I think if you are comfortable at welding and have patience it is possible to be able to build your own. Good luck with your project and Ill keep trying to put some more videos I feel may be useful out in the future.
@petar443
@petar443 10 дней назад
Hello colleague. Your attention to detail is enormous. You seem to be very precise in your work. I ask for suggestion after first time seeing the screwjacks that level your frame JIGs. And i got an idea how to improve my homemade frame streightning table. I do mostly simple hammer and dolly and a bondo jobs but sometimes i use my homemade frame straightner to pull LIGHT frame damage if present. Currently my homemade frame streightning table sits on four dense wood blocks and i use large number of different thickness shims between the blocks of wood and the table itself to level it front to front and side to side for datum. As you can imagine with this setup this takes quite a time. Im looking forward to modify the table by adding this type of screwjacks. But i think i need heavy duty ones since the table itself is 2000lbs. And some unibodycars i work on add 3900-4000 lbs to this weight for a total of 6000lbs. Do you know of screwjacks that could safely support such weight. 🙏😊
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars 9 дней назад
Thank you very much. So I do not know of any screw jacks off the top of my head that are larger, however my JIG tables here weigh around 1000 lbs so I am not far off from you. These screw jacks are designed to hold the front end of dirt track race cars that weight in around 3500 lbs. Most of the weight are on the front ends of them so honestly they might work for your application. Maybe on your table instead of 4 use 8 of them since the cars you work on weight a bit more then what I have here with the engines and everything.
@johnkonter7696
@johnkonter7696 Год назад
Great explanation on how to build a frame jig I built my with square tubing like the photos you showed, restoring 70 Chevelle I wish you were building a Chevelle
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
Honestly I am hopeful to build a Chevelle down the road. I know a guy looking for the right car to possibly have me restore once he finds it so you never know. Thanks for the comment and I like the square tubing JIGs for sure. For the weight of them then can be a better option.
@222TOYNOT
@222TOYNOT 8 месяцев назад
You may just have a very early production 74 that used the 73 specs. You make some of the best videos due to the detail and explaining things in a good natured way.
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars 8 месяцев назад
Thank you, after talking to a bunch of people I think that diagram might just be off, but who knows maybe someone out there with a 74 that matches might chime in.
@clintevans6643
@clintevans6643 11 месяцев назад
Hi Rick. I have a 1971 Cuda that i want to have a complete restoration done on. How do i get in contact with you?
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars 11 месяцев назад
Send me an email to carthageclassiccars@gmail.com and tell me a little about it and I will get back with you, thanks
@formdog9861
@formdog9861 8 месяцев назад
don't know what to add to every thing that has been said i enjoy all your videos and learn a lot from them but more more more videos lol thank you
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars 8 месяцев назад
Haha thank you very much I really do appreciate it! I am working on the next video now, but trying to do quality over quantity and filler videos so thats the reaon why I don't put them out weekly.
@billdursa4976
@billdursa4976 Год назад
Recently discovered your videos. You are excellent at explaining what you are doing and why.
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
Thanks much appreciated!
@MichaelEsty-qi7si
@MichaelEsty-qi7si 26 дней назад
How do you find factory measurements for a 67 Chevy nova? I want to build a jig like you did
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars 25 дней назад
I would search on forums and the Internet that usually where I get them from and then compare them to what you car is at before you cut it apart.
@jamiemineer4879
@jamiemineer4879 Год назад
This is better than a classroom setting no nonsense and to the point
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
Thanks that's the goal not and try to waste peoples valuable time that could be working on their cars ;)!
@bryanclayton7008
@bryanclayton7008 2 месяца назад
@@carthageclassiccars very nice! Can't stand all the blah blah when I choose a learning video. Just the facts and the important stuff. Thanks for the "get to the point" teaching! Big cudos!!
@nickrodriguez7293
@nickrodriguez7293 3 месяца назад
Thank you for your video. I'm about to start a project on a 72 Nova. I am doing frame rail replacement, floor replacement, trunk floor pan etc... I will be making my own jig and your video is very inspiring thank you for that.
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars 3 месяца назад
You are welcome good luck on your build!
@MidnightOilsRestoration
@MidnightOilsRestoration 6 месяцев назад
Excellent video, thank you for sharing this…I am needing to build the exact same thing for my 71’ challenger! Mine was drag raced very heavily many years ago which twisted the body where now it needs to be remedied. Keep up the great work saving these cars brother! I do know that in 1973-74’ cars went to iso suspension which might have changed a couple of things but it may just be a different measurement due to different component mount points…I’m not sure about that but if I find anything I will let you know.
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars 6 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot and yes keep me posted!
@bevmoore3316
@bevmoore3316 8 месяцев назад
Did you ever come up with a reason on the dimension change at the 73-74 break? The 74 Challenger also same just wondering if the front rails used until then were B body, then final year of production had their own? Nice work, by the way.
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching and for reminding me. 70-74 Challenger had no frame differences and the 70-74 Cuda frame measurements were exactly the same everywhere i measured. I put a 70 on this JIG after this car was done and it fit perfect. Don't quote me to be 100% accurate on saying I believe the 71-74 b body should have the same front rails and everything forward of the firewall I believe.
@DoubleRRestorations
@DoubleRRestorations 10 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for this video. I'm getting back on my 72 Camaro restoration and will need a frame jig. Actually I've been putting it off just because I'm needing to figure out what I need. This really takes alot of guess work out of it. I cant tell you how much time I have looking for something that will level a jig. Now I just need to figure out the length of my jig, find some I beams and get some .035 wire. Thanks again, Russ
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars 10 месяцев назад
Your are welcome Russ, good luck on your 72 build.
@vincentmadera8159
@vincentmadera8159 4 месяца назад
Nicks garage could tell you. Love your work. Wish you lived in Az lol
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars 4 месяца назад
Thanks a lot. Looking back now the answer is the frame chart was a misprint as I still to this day see no differences and they all have shared Jigs
@bjsteg79
@bjsteg79 Месяц назад
Awesome video, man! Going to use it when we decide it's time for a total restoration on our 67 mustang
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Месяц назад
Thanks a lot, good luck on your restoration.
@mikecondoluci53
@mikecondoluci53 Год назад
im rebuilding a 68 firebird , this video really was helpful, great explanation, thank you for your time, just subscribed
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
Awesome I appreciate the subscription!
@maverick9769
@maverick9769 Год назад
hey could you tell where I could get frame measurement charts?, thank you.
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
They come from all over depending on what car I am working on at the time. There might be some assumption here thinking you are looking for a ford maverick? I did a quick search and some guy is selling them for $10 on ebay for the maverick platform, might reach out to him and see if they will help you out. Honestly the popular cars, first gen F-body, mopar b-body, e-body, the mustang platforms are relatively easy to some by since so many are doing restorations on them.
@maverick9769
@maverick9769 Год назад
@@carthageclassiccars Oh ok, thanks a lot for the reply. Thought there was a central place you were getting them from. I am actually working on Mercedes, thats why I was asking. Once again Thank you.
@skipsims2384
@skipsims2384 Год назад
Your attention to precision detail is second to none Rick, perfection! Can hardly wait to get my car to you lol! Great work buddy 👍🏼
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
Thanks Skip
@jss6060
@jss6060 Год назад
Love the Channel. I’ve been building cars for myself for about 20 years now. I’m always ready to learn and your videos are very informative
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
I am glad you are getting stuff out of them thanks for watching!
@garylietz6305
@garylietz6305 Год назад
Good information.........thanks.
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
you're welcome!
@bevmoore3316
@bevmoore3316 8 месяцев назад
I have measured the B bodies & believe they are identical, inner fenders and filler B body specific
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars 8 месяцев назад
Awesome thanks for the info
@bevmoore3316
@bevmoore3316 8 месяцев назад
I lied Rick, this guy went a step further. Rust Bucket Restos, 1971 Cuda front clip episode#2 You Tube@@carthageclassiccars
@GoGoGarage
@GoGoGarage Год назад
That's a seriously heavy duty jig. Thanks for sharing
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
You're welcome and Yes it might be a little excessive, but now I am able to jump around, pry, pull on the car and it might as well be ties to the floor as its not going to move. Thanks for watching!
@chaosbringer7296
@chaosbringer7296 Год назад
These Videos are Gold!!!!!! Thank you!!!
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
Thank you very much!
@twmotox
@twmotox Год назад
How would you support it if you were replacing a dynacorn trunk assembly
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
With the Cuda in this video I am installing a full trunk, tail panel, trunk gutters, wheel houses and literally the entire back section of the car minus the frame rails. So this is exactly how I would support the frame rails and build off them.
@twmotox
@twmotox Год назад
@carthageclassiccars that's my problem. I know once I take the back section off I wint have the rails. I'm not sure how to support the car while I change it. I did build some temporary frame rails out of box steell and I may use those to support it
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
@@twmotox gotcha you got the one piece dynacorn setup with the rails, I am tracking now. Look at my video 2 cutting out the rust on a f-body car. I remove the rails in that one and show how I try and build the rear rail JIGs. In a little bit I will go ahead and install them. Also on the e body cars use the shackle mounts and pin holes as mounting points.
@tonywaters3520
@tonywaters3520 Год назад
@@carthageclassiccars Perfect. Thanks again
@stacyshelton541
@stacyshelton541 Год назад
😎Love the class room, appreciate the advice and the step by step method and explanations ✌🏻✌🏻
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
You are welcome thanks for watching!
@wanderingkurt
@wanderingkurt Год назад
As always, very informative. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
You are welcome!
@mightymikethebear
@mightymikethebear Год назад
This video may motivate others to make their own jig to get a project started. I found the video educational because jigs are not just for restoring cars.
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
I hope it does motivate some
@rh752
@rh752 Год назад
As always, absolutely great content. Straight to the point with valuable insights! I know how frustrating losing video footage can be so really appreciate the time you have taken to do this
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
Thank you, I am going to try and format the SD card in the future between videos instead of just deleting the videos I am hoping that's what part of the problem was.
@mrpurcountry
@mrpurcountry Год назад
That is a super nice frame jig, I'm sure it will make putting the car back together much easier and faster great video this week keep them coming.
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
Thank you for the continued support and yes I agree with you. When they are supported and nothing moves makes it easier in the long run.
@chrislangdell117
@chrislangdell117 8 месяцев назад
I know this is an old video but maybe a short video on how to read a frame measurement chart. And where each measurement point is on a car and even the names of the different locations on the car would be really helpful. I have a line on a great 70 GTX going to need a ton of metal work and frame rails. Want to make sure they are 100% right. Don't know many people around here that would take on a repair like this and finding a pro shop to do it would be cost prohibitive. If I build a frame Jig and can figure out the measurements I'm sure I can handle it with alot of patience and measuring 30 times each. 😂
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars 8 месяцев назад
We will see what the future holds on something like that and will take it into consideration. Its hard to be very specific as most of these cars are completely different. I do a lot of specific stuff with measurements on E bodies, but that wouldn't help you.
@ty3095
@ty3095 Год назад
Thanks for another great video. I will be incorporating a K frame and pin locations from a car that has not been wrecked. So I can slide it under an identical car that has been wrecked. I hope it works out that the pin locations are accurate car to car off of the assembly line. If not, I'm thinking Adjust Or replace Parts so the car to fit the jig ??
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
Yes that is for the most part what I do with my JIG I have for the e -bod cars. I think you are on the right track and when I put front frame rails in cars that need them it has worked out well.
@Chevy-ud1ec
@Chevy-ud1ec Год назад
that's awesome thanks for the info.
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
You're welcome!
@slimpal1414
@slimpal1414 11 месяцев назад
How much were you tweaking these metric chassis for dirt racing
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars 11 месяцев назад
Its trial and error more going off bar angle in the back lower LR bar. Basically there was no magic inches on the chassis all 4 corners are on the jig with suspension in place and start with angle finders and moving certain points where you would get the certain measurements that has worked for my driving style. There would have to be a whole long drawn out video series on just that to actually explain my theories, most that come from lots of failures.
@slimpal1414
@slimpal1414 11 месяцев назад
I would like to pick your brain on this one day
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars 11 месяцев назад
@@slimpal1414 sounds good
@ThunderAppeal
@ThunderAppeal Год назад
Yeah, but how accurate are the repro sheetmetal like Dynacore, etc?
@carthageclassiccars
@carthageclassiccars Год назад
If you check out some of my full builds I think for the most part they are accurate. I have to pull and pry sometimes be creative but its a lot easier on a JIG to get them working well.
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