All "Custom" Controller Companies Suck 

Crazy how the intro you completely slammmmm everyone that your sponsored with lol 😂 love your content you’ve got no filter and your word tracks are hilarious

Custom controllers are so fcking expensive that i also would be extremely pissed if my controller had issues.

I know that was a joke captain, but if you ever toy with the idea of creating your own controller company, I want to throw my hat in for becoming an employee. And it looks like the hex phantom kickstarter did so well that it's going to have he modules with a calibration tool. Just wanted to inform the community.

Vader 4 Pro dropped. Can't wait for the review.

I get why people would be upset shelling out that much money for a controller for it to be not so good, but definitely barking up the wrong tree going to you VS the actual controller company

Dude I just got to know your content due to researching controllers. You're golden - keep it up

Review VADER 4 PRO & BEITONG ZEUS 2 ELITE WIRELESS CONTROLLER pleeasseee..

I have an Xbox Elite Series 2, Scuff Instinct (Xbox Series X), Dualsense Edge, and a PS5 AIM controller with the works (paddles, digital click for all available options, Hall effect joysticks, hair triggers, got the MWIII plates) - I like all of them but none of them are my favorite in every category. Honestly, the Dualsense Edge is the closest if only it had longer battery life. I mean seriously I can’t use it for 2 hours sometimes without worrying about it going dead. My biggest pet peeve with the Xbox elite is I don’t like the clicking in on the sticks (R3 and L3) as it seems like it has almost a ghost press before the actual press. It’s not exclusive to my current one either I have had many (5+). I like the AIM a lot, but I am not a huge fan of the back paddles and the overall heft of the controller. Not the weight, but the girth of it. I wish it was slimmer like the Edge. The AIM PS5 also has the stick-click thing I mentioned on the elite, although to a lesser extent. There is also rattling inside the controller when it’s lightly shaken around, which I have to imagine is due to the way the chassis is designed to accommodate the back paddles and whatever mod board they are using. As far as the Scuff Instinct, it’s the least offensive but also nothing special. I like the trigger stops but I don’t like the thumb stick tension, feels too loose imo. Also has great back paddles. I hope this is regarded as a constructive criticism instead of a blatant complaint. Thanks for the great videos my man I love your content!

6:31 is an amazing point, and it's why I love your channel. If I trusted social media, i would never buy anything beyond a regular controller. I've gotten some great controllers that online hate would have scared me away from, and had no issues at all after seeing an unbiased review from you!

Most of the complaints come from repair time and cost. If you can't afford repairs, don't buy. I've learned that if I really like a controller and can't be without it if it breaks down, buy a second to rotate. It's unfortunate but it is what it is.

lol this why I follow you because u give us the real feelings 😂😂

I received my aim controller today and just like you had said the start and select buttons are like flush with the shell other then that everything seems top notch!

“Fck HYPR and the horse they rode on” @11:10 that was too funny brother 🤣🤣🤣. And yes there are some scummy gaming customers out there - y’know the ones with no social skills living in the basement with their strike packs,Zim and cronos cheating in BR’s and DDOSSING servers 😵‍💫💩💩

I appreciate your time and effort bringing these type of vids to the community! Keep up the great work!!!

Glad you made a video on this subject, not many RU-vidrs have recently (that i know about), there's so many controller manufacturers now it's hard to keep track, luckily for us we have you to let us know what's worth buying or not, keep up the good work ✌️

Heya mate, I'm really struggling to settle on a controller...the pricing is too high not to be thoroug. I see too many negatives or they dont/can't do what I'm after, or just don't even reply at all.... PS5 I'm actually beginning to lean towards the DSE now... any advice?

What are the best Hall effect controllers

Love the straight up honesty dude, great video!

Bro im want to buy a pro controller but not sure if go for aim controller or a scuff pro reflex, for ps5 , are there any different in the reflex pro mouse click or the aim ,ajustable mode to mouse click, apart tgat one is static i mena in response. Hope you can help me there.

Yo that 3 years thing with the elite series 2 is really cool actually

I have bought 3 cinch controllers haven’t had any issues with them. Besides them not feeling premium they do perform as advertised.

Saved me from looking at custom controllers in this case as I'm looking for a replacement for my steam controller. Until the alpakka has wireless I'm not sure what to get aside from dualsense edge, xbox s with bigwon adapter or apex 4 that is really good on gyro.

Nice video. Have no issues with my Scuf Envision Pro, but I do hope to see newer 1st party pro controllers. A Dualsense Edge 2 with 4 back buttons would be perfect.

I’ve had my scuf for almost 2 years now and with basically daily usage it’s still holding strong, I’m pretty impressed it’s the longest lasting pro controller I’ve had

Bwahahahahaha I love the intro Kev 😂

I think if Sony is able to update their Pro controller with their USB "Playstation link" dongle, and give pc players wireless pro gaming with very very low latency, that would make it stand supreme above all the other controllers. Or roll out a new version that can be comptatible. But still... it needs to happen.

How do you think of NagaShock controllers?

To be fair they all charge way to much for something you can easily do yourself with a little time investment. Plus you gain the knowledge of how to fix issues yourself. For anyone wondering most custom controller companies use eXtremerate parts, and all those parts are readily available. Ive built many fully custom controllers for 1/3 to 1/4 the price

I have a Scuff for Series X and an AIM for PS5. Between both I personally like my AIM controller better. But that's just my opinion. Everyone's experience can be different for sure, so I just normally say get what you have had the best luck with. I have more controllers than the average person should too.

Directionional down button is malfunctioning a little bit

Big mahalos Kevin! Always know I'm gonna get great reviews and hilarity from the Controller Capt'n. Keep it up brahdda!

So for long term is it better to buy a dual sense,Aim, or scuf, custom controller in august of 2024

can you recommend a controller for pc? i'm currently using a dualsense but i wanna buy a controller with paddles for shooters.

Thank you for your service!

Hey Kevin, question for you - do you happen to have recommendations for the best adapter to use to connect an Xbox controller and a PS5 controller wirelessly to a Windows PC? I'm essentially looking for the best adapter for both types of controllers that allows me to wirelessly use them on a Windows PC with the least amount of delay/lag.

Prior to winning the AIM Controller here (i was closest in guessing how much the Alienware PC you bought / never received after crazy delays and was refunded), I wasn’t really a custom controller customer. I want to say it’s been roughly 2 years though and unfortunately, I’ve given up using it as my experience with AIM has been unpleasant and I just don’t have the patience to deal with their ridiculous turn around times and the same repeated issues. I won’t use this forum to state that AIM controllers are shit as a whole - I’m not gonna over generalize like that, but I can emphatically state that mine is. First issues started within 3 months of having it - first, the thumb grips completely fell apart - almost like they were dry rotted. Second, trying to run (L3) when playing was malfunctioning and then while the mouse click ADS was nice; the stick drift was so horrendous, it was impossible to use. I got a dud I thought - I’ll contact AIM, tell them I won it on your channel and issue solved right? Eh - not so much. I contacted AIM, provided my case ID and explained the issues. Controller was still under warranty, yet in their response; they requested I make a video and send it to them so that they could see what I was talking about - evidently, stick drift and L3 issues were completely foreign to them. In any case; I fired up OBS, recoded a video and sent it. They actually had to approve my issues being legit and told me to send it in for repair which I did immediately. I didn’t get the controller back for basically 2-3 months and while it worked perfectly, it went right back to having the same issues within 6 months and it’s not like I’m a hard core gamer: I play fucking H1Z1 and occasionally would play COD on the weekends so there’s no wear and tear issue. It’s been sitting in its case for the better part of a year though so. Granted I didn’t pay a penny for it; I’m not nearly as pissed as I’d be if I had; it really sucks that the quality of mine was shit because I really did enjoy using it when it did work. Love your channel, love the content and from one veteran to another, thank you for service ❤

Super good video! Comprehensive, calm, rational, but also reasonable!

I haven't had any experience with a custom pro controller yet, and I rely very much on your opinion of custom controllers and how they perform. Seeing this actually makes me think that companies that make controllers should prioritize product QC and their customers. Thank you for this information Controller Cap'n.

I’m actually getting into controller modding as a hobby so I’m curious about hat you ideally want in a custom controller?

I'm currently working on modifying a standard series X control with parts from extreme rate. Not gonna be going into the custom control business 😂😂 can be tedious work haha.

I have a controller from several of those companies and dont understand the scuf hate I always end up back using the scuf havent had any issues with them

I got a scuf reflex pro and I really liked it, I tried my very best to not get stick drift followed many guides but alas after 13 months (a month after the 1 year warranty) I got unfixable stick drift that ruined the controller for me that is why I will now only buy controllers with hall effects as I'm tired of this crap so hopefully they can last longer then 2 years or something

Ive got a controller obsession but have avoided the 3rd party modded ones. Ive come really close a bunch of times and seeing this video makes me glad I didnt buy one. Ive found myself enjoying the simplisitic original design more lately. Im finding I dont need extra buttons as much as I just want to be able to get a good grip. I bounce between the Scuf Envision and the Dual Sense Edge but the Envision isnt all that comfortable to me and the Dual Sense Edge battery is a cruel joke. Ive been using a stock Xbox controller on my laptop and except for those ABXY buttons I really like it. I saw that Fallout themed Xbox controller in the video and I ordered it with some nice rubber grips. How about some more videos about current ways to mod controllers ourselves? Ive got an iFix It Kit and Ive done repairs before. I would love to put my own clicky buttons in some stock controllers myself.

I stopped using scuf for several years ago but hearing you say that their qc has gotten better i wouldn't mind trying them out again!

Really wish they would step up their QC game.

Completely agree. We are not perfect or immune to problems. Things can go wrong but if or when they do, we are here to help. We take immediate action and do not take months to reply

LOL that intro just flamed half of all gamerZ

What about the new hex gaming controller you just reviewed

i’ve heard many stories of aim controllers breaking and being terrible after such little use. but i’ve also heard a lot of good comments too. do you think it’s worth the risk or should i stick to the edge with only 2 paddles.

Bro The intro omg 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I have ps4 battle beaver custom total cost 348.49 dollars

The fact of the matter the so called " shit Chinese companies " there 50 -100 dollar rollers and i feel 99% are 75 and under. These rollers are significantly better then these custom companies i.e game sir...big big won...vadar to name a few

I've had 3 elite 2 controllers with stick drift. does anyone know a good controller that wont stick drift after 6 months? I play on pc

I had it for one year now

Don't drop the duel sense edge broke both sticks from about shin height drop and they became floppy couldn't replace the sticks and had to buy a new one wasn't happy

got a brand new custom dual sense edge coming your way for review in the next month!!!!! some fresh sticks for you

You're a good man Charlie Brown. Stay after it.

I feel like stick drift is more of a problem with over aggressive users that try to get m&k type movements on a controller that average users

Alot of these custom controllers use original parts, I believe. So I wouldnt expect any better reliability than what you get with a first party controller. I would say just be realistic and expect them to break when your regular controllers would. I know they should be more durable for the price, but its unlikely. I dont even expect to use the factory warranty or anything like that. When these controller break I will sell them as broken on ebay most likely, get some money back from that and put it towards a replacement. When I played one console primarily (ps4,xbox 360,etc) I noticed that a first party controller lasted me about 1 year before it started drifting and I would replace it. Currently Ive purchased 2 Scuff controllers (PS5,Series X) and a Flydigi 4,2 King Kong Pros (2 and 3 MAX), Elite Version 2, and Razer Wolerine V2 Pro for PS5 and all of them have held up. The problem is that I now cycle through many of these controllers for different types of games. Theres little quirks and differences I like for certain types of games. I use adapters to use them on PC and other consoles as well. Basically its like rotating tires on a car to wear things out more evenly. I dont have one controller that Ive put a shitload of time in, so durability is still in question. I just assumed most of these controllers are no more durable than first party. The Flydigi and Razer use thier own parts I believe. The only thing that breaks for me on modern controllers is the sticks. I get stick drift after so much use. Usually several hundred hours (maybe 500 hours but its been a while since I thought about it). With the Elite version 1 several things would break. The Elite 2 seems more durable but Im sure the sticks would drift just the same. Im pretty sure I went through more than one Elite 2. I just dont use Elite 2 much anymore because these other custom controllers got so much better in every aspect. Even the cheaper King Kong Pro 2 and King Kong 3 MAX (or whatever the fuck theyre called) are way better than the Elite controllers with the features, and comfort with the KK2. KK3 went for a sandpaper plastic type of grip, thats my only real gripe with that version, but it blows the Elites away in just about every other aspect. My current favorite controller for modern games is that Flydigi Apex 4 controller. Incredible controller. It has just about every feature of every pro controller, in one, which is what I was looking for. You can even map keyboard functions onto any button. I like mapping save and load states on the back paddles so I can practice older games more efficiently on emulation. The dpad is clicky and very low resistance micro switch based. Only issue I have with it is the edges are a little sharp and Id like the dpad to be a little smaller (not as wide). Its almost perfect. The microswitch buttons are also the lowest tension Ive seen and feel so good during gameplay. You can map functions like turbo to any button on the controller using an APP on your PC. It would be better if it was like the King Kong Pro controllers and you could map everything on the fly, on the controller itself. Still you can set up multiple controller profiles which you can switch to on the fly using the screen on the controller. The trigger locks are not really too good. You can set a mechanical resistance to the triggers but it doesnt have that abrupt trigger stop that I like. I tend to power through the mechanical resistance like its not even there, so I just dont use that feature. The sensitivity is high so the triggers fire right away anyway, at the slightest squeeze. The hall effect sticks are super fuckin smooth, similiar to the King Kong controllers, but its awesome to get that in a fully featured pro controller. The back paddles are very similiar to the Scuff Instinct, which are the best back paddles I used. Super easy to hit since you rest your fingers on them and can rotate the finger slightly to hit either back paddle. Scuff instinct has only a slight edge since the back paddles are a little wider. You have to move the finger every so slightly with the Flydigi to hit them, but its very similiar style to the Instinct's paddles otherwise. It also has all the features of the King Kong pro controllers, such as programmable macros. With these you can program difficult special moves to the macro button that you set, or set it to do menial grinding tasks while you leave it running and do something else. The rubber grip is almost as good as the Scuff controllers, but nothing has beat that sticky rubber feel for me yet. However it feels quite a bit more sticky then the elite grips which feel kind of rough. It even has adjustable stick tension using an included tool that sits in the controller. Completely unrelated but fuck it, felt like talking about this controller. Works with all the various adapters I tried too. Works on PC natively, Switch natively (I believe) and Xbox. You can probably use it with PS4 games on the PS5 too, but havent tried that yet. Lately I find myself using this controller for EVERYTHING. I play everything from very old to modern games and Im usually using this shit for it all. Its like the ultimate universal controller minus the few little tweaks I mentioned. Cant get it to show up on Retroarch emulator for whatever reason but maybe I need to update those. Works awesome on MAME, Switch emulation and most everything else. Long battery life, low input lag wirelessly, no disconnects as far as I can remember, with any console or PC. Battery indicator and profile switching are the main things I use the screen on the controller for. Finding a universal controller like this was a big deal for me because Pro controllers were often missing features that other pro controllers had (micro switch buttons, rubber grips, etc), so having a pro controller that has everything from all the other pro controllers and is awesome as a retro controller for old games is one of the things Ive been trying to find for years now. Its just more covenient to use ONE controller for a huge variety of games, old and new. Not getting it to work on Retroarch was my biggest issue. That could be fixed with an update to Retroarch or maybe I didnt give it enough attempts (retroarch is super finnickly with any controller, especially if you have more than one controller plugged into a USB hub, causes tons of conflicts). This controller gets all the small details right, for the most part. Things such as being able to map not only keyboard keys, but multiple keyboard keys pressed together onto a single button and having that turbo and macro functionality, stick tension adjustability, micro switch buttons and pad, etc. It feels like they really took the best of whats available and improved on it. The dpad is much better than the razer wolverine v2 since it requires the slightest touch to activate, where as the razer takes a little force. It feels like alot of planning went into it.

I had never had a custom controller! I've spent last 7/8 months going through alot of the top pads. Yes some have some nice features. Are any of them worth what they cost, absolutely not. I ended up on dualsense edge and I'm stopping there. Still have an Aim but not using it, going to sell it. Only keeping Edge as like it's pairing and usability with station! And still want something with two back buttons. Brain can't cope with four! Keep up the work!

"You're going out of business" 💀

I would recommend against the 3 year warranty from microsoft personally. Based on my experience with it of course. I had sent them an Elite series 2 that started to not register inputs on the 'A' face button. When I purchased the Microsoft warranty it explicitly stated that a brand new replacement would be sent as long as it's within the 3 year warranty(this is no longer stated in the warranties). They sent me back a used controller with boogies on it lol. I was like wtf is this? Contacted their support with screenshots of the warranty I had purchased and they said they changed the policy without notice and will no longer be honoring the one I had paid for because in the terms of the warranty it stated they reserved the right to change the terms without notice. Of course like any normal person I didn't read through that( my bad). Anywho I got shafted by this experience, tossed the ol boogie controller (it showed up with worse problems than the one I sent in btw, stick drift sticky buttons, left bumper issues and boogers on it). I said screw it and built my own. Only downside is the extra buttons don't work as extra inputs. The moment I can find a board to make a kit with steam input support for extra buttons I'll be scooping that son of a biscuit up quicker than a fried egg on saturday morning.

@gamerheavenoffical Hello, iam new to your channel and i like your videos, iam new to gaming with a controller and i am really interested in getting a custom one, what would you recommend? Should i go with scuf or aimcontroller? I really want a ps4 ( maybe ps5) controller with back paddles , so what would your recommendation be? Keep up the great work

The only controller I've had stick drift is my Razer Raiju Tournament Edition. I'm very happy with my GameSir G7 SE, wh8ch was about $100 less expensive.

I dont understand how they cant get good analogic sticks when I have bought some 35usd chinese controllers with 0.5% circularity. Also allow more options for d-pad. 8 way, classic cross and ps style should be available to make it truly custom. Btw, Vader 4 review when?

Great vid hope everyone has a great day

you going viral for this lol keep going ! lol

I never had issues with my Elite controller. Maybe im lucky, maybe I just don't throw it into a wall when im upset about a game.

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I don’t know if you get to comments after a bit but hey can you help me I’m thinking about selling this old Xbox controller I found but can’t tell which console it’s from was thinking I could send you a picture.

Samsung is well known to pay people to write negative experience in every sing tech o product thread , forum also yt. Im dragonesdenano in XDA , was doing roms for HTC with my Skydragon team. They cried and posted negative comments about non removable battery and metal phone body etc... Till they copied all from apple and HTC and sell it. So, most are people crying about things they don't own or have. Few are real😂

Bro woke up and chose violence 😂

Scuff def sucks. 6 months in back button quit working.... No warranty coverage.

Then there's Flydigi putting out some real innovation for sub $100.

Yesterday, my second aim controller finally arrived (yeah, I'm a sick bastard). My older controller was built just a few weeks prior to snap panels. And now to compare the newer one, I have to say the quality went down a few notches, the Dpad to be more specific. The digital face buttons aren't what they used to be, because they aren't tightly in place and they have quite a lot of wiggle room or if I turn the controller upside down, they "come out" a bit and if I shake the controller, they rattle. But the dpad is an even worse offender imo. It was supposed to be 4 seperate buttons, but mine aren't seperared and if I press in any direction, the opposite side lifts up. This really bothers me, since I have and older one to compare it to and it's a bit sad to see how the newer one has more features like snap panels and hall effects, but lacks the basic quality the older one has.

there no perfect controller? have hall effect.. mechanical button. trigger stop. display.. rubber grip. Hall trigger. everything goodies. etc.. haha

Hi Gamer heaven. Huuuuuuuuuuge fan. Can I ask a favor can you review the Easy smx mo5 Mobile controller please

Thanks Kevin, I think people would be best to wait at least a few days before ranting to not seem so nuts....

Check out the rocket games controller

Giveaway?

The problem with all these "custom" controllers is that they are just stock controllers with poor polling rate and dont have the hall effect sticks when other brands like game sir do it for a fraction of the price

Ive been saying they suck for years and yet people still fork over their $300 and call it a day and end up with stick drift a month later

My personal custom/premium controller experience has been bad at time great at other times. Disclaimer when these controllers function properly they’re great but when they break or come broken. I replace them with Amazon warranty. I had an elite that came broken out of box, got it replaced LB broke after 6 months and the tension sticks stopped working properly. Then I had 2 scuffs instinct pros the first has a squeaky trigger came like it out of box and it got worse over time. The 2nd I replaced quickly after disliking their back button lay out for an Elite core which I find more comfortable (I use all 4 paddles). This elite core i currently own the right tension stick is stuck and won’t tighten or loosen and my top left paddle won’t actuate properly (i bought an official accessory kit)

#1 Love ur videos.

100% custom controllers suck, it doesn't matter if its a big or small company. I'd rather use a stock duel sense, coming from a guy who's k/d doubles with 4 back paddles. Literally all I want is 1000hz, mouse click low actuation buttons and bumpers, 4+ back button or paddles paired with dope ergonimcs like the envision, elite or duelsense. They're all so close, I feel like I'm watching a race. All those 1000 hz, hall effect thumbstick cheapos get me excited for the future. Pressure is being applied and it's honestly so dope.

You made me buy into that Hex Phantom on kickstarter. That better not be a piece of shit or I'll be leaving a very nasty comment. With many a cussword. Possibly a dislike, not sure yet. By the way, Vader 4 Pro review in the works by any chance?

🙊pro controller suck 😂

Yes. On purpose, so you buy a new controller every 6 months or they made V1, V2, V3 or add useless functions like Whatsapp view on others🤣🤣🤣 Chinese crapz

wishing for the Naga Shock review to still come true 🥹