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Hello, I was wondering if you can upload which character has dialogue during the SB Final Battle against Thales, Rhea or both? Just curious to know there!
Wish we got that for Azure Moon in Three Houses. Though it is implied that Dimitri hunts down Those who Slither in the Dark, alongside his queen Archbishop Byleth in his epilogue.
alright i didnt finish azure gleam because this game is boring, what the hell happened to edelgard? did she get memory wiped or something? lobotomized??
We can see the effect that not having white clouds has had on the lords. Claude doesn’t have as much faith in people opening their hearts to one another as evident by abandoning Randolph as well as elevating himself to king. He doesn’t trust anyone like he does byleth in verdant wind. Dimitri never broke as much as he did at the end of white clouds but that meant he never healed to the extent in azure moon. He simply walked away from edelgard instead of reaching for her hand. Edelgard doesn’t open up like she does in white clouds and doesn’t have byleth walking by her she only has those following her, even shez didn’t feel like she was on as equal footing with Edelgard as byleth in crimson flower Then we can just forget silver snow
I definitely agree. The lack of Byleth & White Clouds gives the lords an interesting what if scenario, but not necessarily one for the better. Sure, they *suffer* more in OG 3H, *especially* Dimitri, but i feel like they were needed for the characters to fully grow into better people, at least in my opinion
@@BardockSkywalkerI see azure gleam as a clear upgrade for Dimitri. He got his revenge, he didn't lose an eye, he actually learned the truth. I fail to see how he's in worse state than by the end of Azure Moon, he never completely got rid of his bloodlust there, either. In both cases, he became the just ruler of Faerghus, just not as broken in AG.
@@ologracz1110 Yeah, but he also lacks the emotional maturity he got in AM, which is what made his choice to try & help Edelgard all the more heartbreaking. When AG Dimitri was given the same chance, he look at Edelgard as an enemy, but then she calls him Dee & stops... But he doesn't go help her, he just turns back & leaves Also, the whole point of revenge plots is to have the character realize that revenge isn't something that would actually be good for them, which is what AM did. He let the hate go & managed to move on, AG Dimitri didn't
@@BardockSkywalker I'd argue that extending his hand to a war criminal, just because she used to be his friend shows foolishness more than maturity, but the symbolism favours your approach. Still, him just leaving Edelgard in AG is more of a problem with that ending at large, it's barely an ending, the game just randomly stops. Also, AG Dimitri didn't need to let go of his hatred, because he didn't have any to begin with - he never went of the grid like in AM. Unless we count hatred for those responsible for the tragedy, which is a righteous hate. Revenge is not fundamentally wrong.
Azure Gleam’s final cutscene hit me hard in the feels the first time I watched it. Seeing Edelgard look around confused and calling Dimitri “Dee” was heartbreaking to me. I wished we got some closure as to what happened with her at least. Also in the same cutscene, I found it funny when Claude gives Reha this disgusted look briefly when it is only the two of them on screen but then he slips on his “smile that doesn’t reach his eyes” when Dedue and Felix stepped up lol.
Claude giving that disgusted look is in line with his view towards the Church. He wants to demolish them but he is also aware that now is not the time yet.
I just believe Dimitri would keep Edelgard under his protection. She's his stepsister and the last remaining member of his family, i believe. Plus, upon likely learning about her having two crest and it causing her lifespan to be reduced significantly, he would understand why Edelgard wanted to achieve her dream as quick as possible. As for Edelgard, she have no choice in the matter. She failed to achieve her dream, she lost. Still, since Dimitri, on a personal level, agree with her ultimate goal, he'd probably try to realize her dream himself after she passes away. I wouldn't be surprised if Dimitri ended up marrying Edelgard. Yeah, i know, those 2 are step-siblings, but royalty doesn't care about family ties.
@@Saicofake He'd probably never get another opportunity in his life. He failed to realize his dream, but unlike Edelgard, he get to keep his title and lands.
The ending for scarlet blaze without Byleth is hilariously bad. "We'll make this the best Foldan ever!!" Ending monologue "war rages on with no end in sight"
glad claude is actually a character in this game and affects the other paths that ARENT golden deer instead of being this yellow guy who owns a fourth of fodlan
@@imtired927 As someone who did play verdant wind, op isn't wrong. In any route that isn't his own, how does Claude affect anything at all in 3 houses?
Dude your comment applies to literally every character from the OG, the OG did largely terrible to all three, though I agree it did a massive disservice to Khalid compared to Warriors.
These endings have convinced me that this game is 1000% percent getting DLC. Watch it include a few extra chapters for each route and it’ll let you play a few more characters that are relegated to NPCS like Manuela, Hanneman and Alois
Yeah I agree, both Edelgard and Claude's routes stopped before the war even end and on bad notes. Only Dimitri's route has a somewhat happy ending with almost everyone alive. Plus Shez's adopted mother origins or reasons are not really revealed. Unless it's a similar situation as Robin and his/her mother refusing to becomes a vessel of a evil god
I feel that Scarlet Blaze(Byleth Recruited) and Azure Gleam have the better endings because it deals with the biggest threat of Fodlan, those who slither in the dark, instead of killing each other.
It’s pretty clear there’s gonna be dlc building on the endings of each route, and the reason it hasn’t been announced yet is because they’re struggling to figure out how on Earth they can make a remix of God Shattering Star that’s better than the original
I wish this game had better endings, i just wish this was 3 houses but with Claude's participation on the other routes, Byleth talking more and Shez in the game
Unless Byleth is recruited or not, all endings remain unsatisfactory for me. So Three Houses remains my favorite and Three Hopes is just a passing experience.
@@hyperstargaming6150 nah most people feel that way and even the writers too as they intentionally wrote the story in a way that it didn’t overshadow Three Houses
@@hyperstargaming6150 Yes, it is my own problem, but not everyone is supposed to share the same opinion with me. I was a little disappointed with Three Hopes, and by little I mean the role of Byleth and Rhea in the game.
@@wajdmaa1196 nothing wrong with your opinion, I just said that your opinion is a you problem. Just like my opinion is a mr problem (although I hold no problems). I think they did Byleth and Rhea perfect. Rhea did not need much time in this game, as it wasn’t centered around her role in Fodlan’s bloody and falsified history. It circled more around the history and true nature of the Agarthans. Meanwhile, Byleth and Shez make sense regardless of your choices. Throughout the story, Shez wants revenge immediately after Byleth annihilates Berling’s Mercenaries. But as he grows into his new role thanks to his house leader, and he grows closer to his friends, while still holding the mercenary creed, he and Arval slightly feud each other about whether or not Byleth needs to be killed or not. You can disobey Arval and recruit Byleth, or you can fight Byleth (the why is up to interpretation, whether it’s to hold off for your allies or to follow Arval’s orders is totally up to you). Recruit, and Byleth makes a valuable ally. Defeat, and you can see what the immediate emotional desire for revenge can do to someone who has too much power, and has an opportunity WAY too soon. Byleth gave in to Sothis WAY too soon, and it gets Byleth killed. Byleth is a mercenary, they don’t need a major role in the story, because mercenaries work by coin, not conviction. They will fight for whomever, against whomever, anytime as long as their fee is satisfied. That’s my LONG ass argument for why Three Hopes did their story as it should have been, with minimal development of those two characters. We are allowed to disagree, I’m just dropping my argument so you understand you my viewpoint and that I’m not just picking a fight.
@@hyperstargaming6150 Exactly, this is why different thinking is wanted in a situation like this. They did the writing just right, and whether this game is better or worse than Three Houses narrative wise is up to the people. Personally, I feel as though it is better for the fact that with each respective paths, Edelgard takes out two birds with one stone without having to rely on TWSITD, Dimitri gets his vengeance on TWSITD while bringing about peace with the church, and let's face it Claude is the smallest of the house so teaming up with the Empire is the best bet for him because in the end he just wants change for the better and can see the cracks in the church's history and wants all sides to just work together to be a land of freedom. That and Claude didn't get the full time of Garrec Mach so he still has this thing of throwing away pawns just for the sake of protecting his territory. To call the story bad is a disservice to Hope's, more like a better what if story than Age of Calamity (mind you I love the crud out of that game). So yeah, this game can stand side to side with Three Houses because it's not a golden route, it's you trying to protect your new friends and allies while trying to find your purpose in Fodlan.
@@JessePrower See, but that's what Claude's there for. He made his intention to depose the church clear to dimitri, making the possibility of having a peaceful deconstruction of the church's power (or at least one where all-out war between kingdom and alliance doesn't break out) all the more likely. It's different than when the empire declared war, because Dimitri all but had to defend the church there for everything they did for the kingdom. But even though he still has reasons to defend the church, not only have all debts to the church been repaid, but he now owes a similar debt to the alliance, not to mention generally liking Claude. Whether the Kingdom would fight to keep the church in power or not, the church still suffered a huge blow from the war, which means that through peace or war, Claude has the clearest road possible to get their heels off of fodlan's back.
@@JessePrower Dude you're acting like Rhea was some literal dictator . The worse thing she does is have people who actively try to harm her and the church executed, which, yeah, IS kind of extreme. But she only does that so that another bloody war won't break out, and it DID work for hundreds of years. Between killing a few dozen every now and then or letting most of the continent kill itself off, she made the choice that saved more lives. And she doesn't seem to mind other people having different beliefs, so long as they don't try to kill the peace or her for it.
@@teamtrpt8216 She literally rewrote history and helped created a society where humanity was bound to the aristocracy which is entirely based on Crests. Reha/Serios kept humanity in the dark for her own revenge. Everyone who suffered and died due to this system, that blood stains Reha's hands. So no, fuck Reha.
@@teamtrpt8216 Having an immortal mother-obsessed dragon lady dictating the future of a continent is not good for anyone. Hell, any one person dictating the fate of an entire continent is bad. The "peace" Rhea created serves her. Rhea is a murderer, she created the noble system, emphasized the importance of crests, holds back any societal or technological advancements that don't benefit her goals, and actively tries to keep Fodlan isolated from the rest of the world. She grooms people to serve her above all other things, just look at Catherine and Cyril! She is the most evil person in the narrative outside of TTSitD, her actions resulted in more death than the entire rest of the cast, and for what reason? So she could bring her mother back? You can critisize Edelgard methods, and Claude's in Hopes, but at least their reasons were giid, to get rid of a mad dictator who had created a system that had ruined lives for god knows how long. And she would never had allowed either of them to make their changes peacefully, she has murdered and suppressed all others who have attempted to do the same. They have the right of it. Better to disrupt a shoddy peace built on blood and death than allow it to stand eternal.
When I got the ending for Scarlet Blaze w/Byleth, I felt that I wasted 70+ hours and effort for nothing. Never went back since the ending left a bad taste in my mouth.
@@greendemon905 The ending didn't feel like an ending at all. It felt incomplete. And the epilogue felt cheap with just Jeralt telling us what happened afterward. Yeah, we "defeated" Rhea and Thales, but what about the rest of the Church of Seiros and the rest of TWSITD? At the end, we learned nothing more than what we've already learned from Three Houses. I was hoping Three Hopes would delved into more about TWSITD and settle that plot since they're relevant to Edelgard, but they barely showed up in the story. The devs barely expand on things and only leave more questions. I know I sound ungrateful, but as a fan who loves Three Houses so dearly, I can't turn a blind eye on the cons.
@@knucklejoe26 I heard people speculating that online. But after beating just one route, I feel empty so I don't care anymore. If there are DLC, I'll probably just watch the content on RU-vid.
@@Ayahime0 I'd say that's true of all routes. They just kind of stop after one major threat is out of the way. What happens to amnesiac Edelgard after Azure Gleam? What happens to anyone after Golden Wildfire? All of these endings feel rushed an unearned to me.
What happened was Dimitri was going to press her, however after seeing her just revert back to the girl he spent time with when they were young…all he could do was walk away.
@@bingomiingo8428 I like to think it’s more that she regressed back to the innocent girl she was before she got the Lysithea treatment, and that she was no longer a threat
@@shayminister4922 she "regressed" but she can back to The normal Edelgard, we can see that happening in "in to The chasm" You only need to speak with her about The Past, her memory wans't erased.
I'm a Dimitri fan, and by all accounts Edelgard got at least the most consistently good route here. Dimitri was solid in Part 1, but his route was braindead in Part 2. Edelgard didn't have the same progression in Part 1, but she didn't snowball downward in Part 2 either. Claude is a slope downward in both parts though. I do think Dimitris route in 3 Houses is the best, character development wise though.
If I had to rank all the routes from both games from favourite to least favourite... 1. Azure Moon 2. Azure Gleam 3. Silver Snow 4. Verdant Wind 5. Scarlet Blaze 6. Crimson Flower 7. Golden Wildfire
Natürlich gefallen Dimitri fans grottige stories mit Unsinn wie Gehirnwäsche. Die Writer wussten Dimitri kann nicht mit Edelgard auf Ideologischer Basis mithalten also musste man sie so ruinieren.
@@Ninjaananas I am an Edelgard fan. But I still liked AM. But your standards must be a joke if you like AG's writing. And usually I don't care what people like but that some people unironically like this baffles me
@@yunuss58 I am also an Edelgard fan who liked AM. AM was good. AG was an abomination. It is nothing against Dimitri because I like him as well. It is purely against that inexcusable story writing. I don't mind people favoring Golden Wildfire, AM, Verdant Wind or even Silver Snow. But favoring AG is, as you said, baffling.
@@Ninjaananas CF still exists. That route is hilariously bad. No amount of "wah 5headelgard got her headwashed" changes the fact this route was great.
@@justinianthe1st790 CF is literally the best route, but cope harder. AG is objectively terribly writing. They ditch a fantastic antagonist for two mustache twirling villains and destroy any nuance the game had. It is almost like AG treats the player like a baby that has to have everything black and white. And once again, the Blue Lions route lacks resolution of important story elements. We still don't know about Anselma or what pricely happened in the Tragedy of Duscur.
@@Ninjaananas "wah wah wah I didnt get my AM rehash wah wah" Cope lol "we dont know what happened regarding the tragedy" "What happened to Anselma" So you didn't play AG? Got it. You don't even know why you hate it! No I'm not gonna help you figure out what happened, either. Play the game because it explains these things lol Literally everyone got resolution after they defeated Thales, even Rhea! She got to do something!They say this verbatim in the final battle. You didnt pay attention. Good vs evil stories arent inherently bad either. I guess The Dark Knight is a bad movie because Joker is objectively evil. DBZ is a bad anime because it's pretty straightforward lol I guess you must hate most FE stories than too, right?. Since plenty of them are straightforward. Awakening, Fates, SS, FE 1, 2, 3, and so on. What matters are the characters and they all were incredibly well written from beginning to end. Oh and no way is the CF fan complaining about lack of resolution lol CF is incoherent nonsense that most fans (even 5headelgard fans) agree is an objectively bad route, with a hilariously bad ending that presents more questions than answers. Ontop of said thematic ending being hamfisted with zero closure. Why does Byleth lose godhood after Rhea perishes but that isnt the case in VW or SS? Because who cares about internal consistency? Why is the Crest Stone in Byleths heart "decoration" (despite literally vanishing) but Sothis is still alive in their paired ending? Which would further solidify that their god powers shouldnt just vanish too because she is STILL apart of Byleth? Because who cares about internal consistency? Why did TWSITD get defeated despite how two routes show Rhea was necessary to defeat them? Because who cares about internal consistency? Why can Byleth and Jeritza solo TWSITD in their paired ending, despite how defeating TWSITD is always a team effort? Because who cares about internal consistency? Then theres the lack of consequences or any meaningful character conflict or hilariously goofy moments. What exactly happened at the end of Part 1 when Rhea very clearly blasted Byleth? How did he end up missing when all we saw was Rhea charging an attack and Byleth just standing there taking it like a fool? Because CF was a rushed mess and isnt allowed to make sense. Why does the whole supervillain thing 5headelgard was doing NEVER get addressed by the cast in the TS? Because who cares about resolutions and character motivations making sense or potential conflict? Why does Edelgard have a bizarre pity part monologue after Randolph (the nothing character) perishes along with Ladislavia (off screen) who isn't developed either? Because CF isnt allowed to have meaningful character deaths and is a joke. Why does 5headelgards lies in Part 2 never come up in any narrative capacity as potential conflict? Because then CF would have an actual engaging conflict. Why does Byleth NEVER confront 5headelgard over her knowing an Agarthan was at the academy who killed Jeralt? Because CF isnt allowed to have engaging conflicts. Which like it or not, this means she was aware of a life threatening danger and said nothing. Why does 5headelgard unironically victim blame Dimitri in their final battle (no the JPN script is just as hilariously bad) and thus makes their dialogue look like nothing more than the equivalent of "no u"? Because the route is poorly written. I can go on and on, but to argue CF is anything more than a rushed joke is beyond parody. Almost everything in AG makes perfect sense and even 5headelgards brainwashing can be easily explained if you paid attention to it. Blue Lion fans stay winning as usual because our route bothers to make sense. Cry about it lmao Tldr 5headelgard isnt necessary for a compelling story and her route in 3H makes no sense and you should make your own opinion by playing AG because you dont know why you hate it.
@justinianthe1st790 I did not want a AM 2.0. I just expected an at least decent story, but what we got in part two of AG was so bad that even many Blue Lions fans hate it. The only thing they say about the Tragedy of Duscur and Anselma is that somehow the people of Duscur got dragged into it, that some nobles were somehow involved, that Thales and Cornelia planned it and that Anselma just vanished. That is far from enough. We literally do not even know for sure whether Anselma is still alife. The game just tells you that she disapeared to somewhere. Neither AG nor AM explained it further. Dimitri did not even knew who Thales was at the end. From his POV, Thales was just some random mage that disguised as Arundel and killed his family. He does not know his motives, where he came from, what he is, who he is, what the Agarthans are, how he orchestrated any of the things he did and what happened to Edelgard. Joker is an intresting villain. Duke Aegir was not even near as fleshed out in AG as he was in SB. Thales literally popped out of the ground into the story and was not properly build up before. The Fodlan games are all about grey morality and AG disrespects this massively by taking away the most complex antagonist and replacing her with someone who imidiatelly runs the whole empire to ruins so hard that not even Count Bergliez believes that it could be helped. And Duke Aegir was also not build up. He also just got dropped into the story out of nowhere. AG has extremly lazy writing. That is the biggest cop out they could have done. And they showed Hegemon Edelgard just to never have her appear again. Why did not Thales use that for his final fight? I don't care about DBZ. I don't hate straightforward stories. I hate stories that ruin the whole laid out premise and that are super lazily written. And most FE have underwhelming stories. Three Houses actually brings are great story to the table but AG just discards this and goes for someone way worse. It is not about any ideals, grey morality or finding out someone secret of the story. It is just a cliche and shoehorned "evil empire" story with an empire that is actually very nuanced. What use are well written characters if they are not used properly? Edelgard got shafted and Rhea is irrelevant. Thales is left completly unexplained and Claude barely does anything noteworthy. If you want great characters, the other routes have them in spades without dropping the ball on the plot. Crimson Flower is literally the most popular route in the game. This was the result of a poll. Actually talk to Edelgard fans instead of living in your own bubble. The majority of them love Crimson Flower. You can go the Edelgard subreddit to find many Edelgard fans. Crimson Flower has a lot of resolution for what it set up. Fight Rhea and changinf society were the key elements of CF and those got all their resolution. The Agarthans were secondary. This is room for theorizing. Many believe that Sothis did this intentionally to give Byleth back their humanity. Byleth's heart beats on its own now and his no longer bound to the Nabateans. It has symbolic meaning. And Byleth does not destroy Rhea's heart in the other routes. Sothis calls it decoration to show that serves no longer any practical function regarding Sothis' existance. This is true for all routes. This also implies that Sothis' existance is no longer tied to the crest stone. It is not specified which powers Byleth loses at the end of CF so we cannot discuss the implications of that. Byleth has many powers related to Sothis, after all. If we go by the hair, it would imply that they merely lost the powers gained after being in Zaharas. Because it is quite evident that Edelgard fights TWSITD differently than you do in other routes. Rhea was only needed because Thales decided to blow the whole place up, which he did precisely because he wanted to destroy the present Nabateans. Edelgard had no Nabateans with her and from Byleth's looks, Thales very likely assumed Sothis to have vanished. He had no reason to blow the place up. Furthermore, Edelgard does not just raid Shambala. She wages a war in the shadows all over Fodlan to purge them for good. Her forces are not concentrated at Shambala so blowing it up would not even stop her. The Byleth-Jeritza ending does not even imply that they solo TWSITD. There are multiple character endings that show that others are also fighting them. We don't even know whether they have been alone at Shambala. What consequence is lacking? Or what meaningful character conflict? CF is not about babysitting Dimitri. VW does not have this either. The ending of part one implies that Rhea wreaked the whole place. A soldier said that the castle was crumbling. Byleth likely evaded the attack but got cought up in the destruction and fell down the pit. The whole game is rushed but CF at least still resolves key plot points of part one while also having meaningful character interaction and actively fighting for your houseleaders' goals. The other routes do not have this. CF makes perfectly sense and you failed so far to point out anything that does not make sense. Compare this to AM which completly drops the plot set up by part one, VW which is a copy of SS, and SS which lacks a proper lord and feels very underbaked despite being the first route made. But the route that makes the least sense is AM, though it is still a good story, unlike AG whichs part two was the worst out of the two games which is super sad because it had a fantastic part one. What supervillain thing was the Flame Emperor even doing? Byleth saw her doing only two things: Condemning Solon's actions and calling the Death Knight off to let them secure the girls. Then there was the raid but everyone understood afterwards that Edelgard prepared a war against the church. And Byleth was gone for five years. It would make no sense for any character conflict to come up about the Flame Emperor after that five years. It has all been resolved while Byleth was gone. Because it shows that Edelgard cares for other people and that she laments the causalities. Are you American? I have observed that poor reading comprehension is common in Americans and you seem to suffer from the same. You need to learn subtext, since your schools don't teach that to you but we can see the ramifications of that right here. Yoi fail to see the obvious. Randolph's and Ladislava's deaths were quite meaningful. So was Dimitri's death. Dude, you simply have not played CF. Because Edelgard always had to keep secrets and that scene merely served to make you understand her position. How she has to lie to keep her whole thing running. They purpose of the scene is not to generate conflict but to see yourself in her position. Because Byleth is smarter than you. People who actually pay attention to the dialogue realize that Edelgard did not know about Kronya's plan, that Edelgard even helps Byleth with their revenge and that Edelgard is very evidently angry at Kronya. It is clear to Byleth that Edelgard did not approve of anything Kronya did and Byleth knows that the Agarthans act on their own. And Byleth knows that Edelgard cannot just reveal Agarthans. But you don't know for some reason, despite it being very obvious if you just paid attention. The conflict withe Rhea, Thales and Edelgard's emotional conflicts are already meaningful enough. CF has planty of engaging conflict but you are just being whiny. You,with your horrible understanding of subtext, want to analyse such lines? Edelgard does not victim blame Dimitri. She points out his hypocrisy. He keeps fighting for selfish vindication but accuses Edelgard of killing pointlessly. Go on then. So far, you only showed yourself to be a joke. I can trounce all your bad arguments. Do you want me to get started on the other routes? You can also have a story of Dimitri doing nothing but paperwork for five hours. Such a story would make sense but it would still suck and it would be terrible writing. This holds true of AG. Even if it makes sense, it is a terrible story. Though not everything does make sense there. Why make Aegir rule the empire when is is clearly terrible at it? Why don't use Hegemon Edelgard? Why does Dimitri not realize something is off with Edelgard since the fight with Thales? Blue Lions fans stay being the most toxic part of the community and keep coping over their terrible Hopes route. There are decent BL fans but you pull them all into the mud with your toxicity. You are the perfect example of typical toxic Edelgard-hater who cannot help but being insufferable while also having zero understanding of the game. And as always, the Edelgard fan understands best. And AM makes no sense. Why does Dimitri blame Edelgard when the Flame Emperor clearly condemned the Tragedy of Duscur? Why does Dimitri not ask Edelgard anything about Anselma or the Tragedy of Duscur? Why does Byleth not rewind to help Rodrigue? Why does no one confront Dimitri or Byleth over the treatment of Randolph? Why are they even putting up with a lunatic like Dimitri? And what are you even fighting for in AM? Just for Dimitri's vindication? The war is nearing its end to Edelgard's victory, who would then have purged the Agarthans and reformed society. But the player reignites the whole war, causes much more causalities only to not have Edelgard's reforms and to have the Agarthans surviving. Why does not AM explain the Agarthans? Why does AM not properly resolves the Tragedy of Duscur? Why are the Knights of Seiros wasting all their time searching for Rhea and letting Edelgard conquer the continent? Why is Ashe not questioning the church? Why does Felix keep putting up with everything despite hating chivalry and Dimitri getting his father killed just like Glenn? And as always, Black Eagles have the morally best route.
Lol, that sounds like cope. Nearly every game with a war at least shows it ending, I don’t remember a war ending with narration saying “war might end maybe who knows.” At least games show the end of a war, no matter how messy or brutal. This is just nothing.
There is absolutely no reason this should end this abruptly. Pretty much every other FE game ties up the strings at some point. This game doesn't. It just leaves all the broken pieces to be picked up by its players. That's terrible game design.
@ResurgentRaven Honestly I think this game wasn't made for story, I think it was made for fan service and gameplay. If you want a good story and tied up endings, play 3 houses
This! Truly a bad decision to deny the church/Nabateans to have a pov in the story, especially when SB/GW accuse her of many contradicting things that the game fails to assert.
I feel like with the exception of Azure Gleam, these routes could have been wrapped up fine with just one extra chapter For Golden Wildfire it could be a battle against Dimitri or something For Azure Gleam idk, I like this ending, if we had to give it an extra chapter, maybe Hegemon Edelgard or something For Crimson Blaze I feel it could have been the “final battle against the kingdom” the ending talks about
What's intresting is a non cutscene version of the New Hegemon Edelgard was found in the files of three hopes. So maybe at one point it would have been the case
I really felt bad for the Church and Kingdom in this game, especially in GW and SB. Byleth and Jeralt (and even Alois) constantly avoiding Rhea when they could've solved everything if they just sat down and talked. Sylvain, Gustave, Baron Dominic, Matthias, Ingrid, Rodrigue (and potentially even Ashe, Annette and Mercedes) as well as hundreds of innocent people all being murdered for just defending their home and independence. Rhea being murdered by Claude in Golden Wildfire (with the remains of a member of her race, no less), and probably dying in Scarlet Blaze, all whilst heroically fighting Thales (she might be dead in SB, she might not be. Who knows?), after losing Catherine and Cyril (as well as Shamir either dying or betraying her). Seteth and Flayn being driven into exile, having lost their home. Honestly, the Church and Kingdom just couldn't catch a break in this game. That's why I always choose the Azure Gleam route, whilst recruiting Byleth and Jeralt, of course (even though they still keep avoiding Rhea, which is annoying). Sorry for the tangent. I know it's just a game, and everyone is entitled to think what they want about it, but I just had to express my feelings on the matter.
Rhea was the problem with Fodlan and all three lords realized it. Dimitri was unfortunately shackled by his duties as King, otherwise he would've told her to take a hike when they requested asylum. She's literally an immortal who rules over all three nations through a church she established in her own name. She betrayed the Empire when Loog (supported by the Agarthans) rebelled against the Empire, forcing the Empire to cede vast swaths of land, all while establishing herself as the religious (and therefore de facto) leader of the new nation, doing the same with the Alliance, purging any members of the clergy who didn't support her with impunity (anyone who supported other Church factions would also get purged through her authority as Archbishop). She established the toxic Crest-focused society, giving the nobility free reign to trample over anyone who opposed them while also encouraging an extremely toxic environment for the nobility as well by lying about the history of Fodlan. She forbids outside relations, as other nations do not worship the religion she established, resulting in the tensions with Dagda, Almyrra and Sreng. And she refuses to surrender power or cede any of it, under the complete delusion that humans aren't fit to rule, despite the fact that Wilhelm and his followers sided with her willingly during the war against Nemesis. During the war against the Empire, she has no qualms in several routes about throwing her allies to the wolves in order to get what she wants. Shamir even states in 3 Hopes that the Knights of Seiros would sacrifice their allies and citizens for the sake of victory while the Empire and Federation halt their advance on Faerghus during the attacks on Ordelia and Hrym territory. By the end of Golden Wildfire, even Marianne, who is a staunch believer in Sothis, finds what Rhea is doing to be completely abhorrent. Rhea does this on multiple occasions, setting fire to a town full of innocents (in 3 Houses) or the town surrounding the monastery (3 Hopes). She also abandons the Kingdom in both games when the fight turns against her, leaving them to die while she retreats/advances on her objective. Aside from the Agarthans, Rhea was the worst thing that could've happened to Fodlan.
@LAZERAK47V2 Rhea has many flaws, but I still sympathise with her a lot more than Edelgard for many reasons. That's all I wish to say on the matter. Stay safe, my friend.
I'm just happy that there wasn't a "Golden Route" like many people were claiming that it existed because Zelda got one with Age of Calamity, and for that this game is totally worth it. And in my opinion is even best than Three Houses.
I will admit that I wanted a golden route, but in the end war is never pretty, especially since there are three paths to it. The best thing you can wish for is glory for your side in seeing the end.
@@Rogar555 a golden route doesn’t imply that things are amazing for everyone, just that it’s the best outcome. Many people would have liked that, idk why people frown upon the idea so much.
I mean Dimitris route is pretty much a golden route to those which aren't complete Edelgard simps and do not hate the church but don't want to see Edelgard die either.
@@SaintShiek Yep. AG's ending is something I wish happened in Three Houses. Didn't want Edelgard to die, but didn't hate the church either. BE (both CF and SS) left a very bitter taste in my mouth as I was forced to choose who to kill with no option to keep both Rhea and El alive. They both got their lives fucked up real bad (Rhea's way more than El's, let's be honest here), so just casually killing them felt... wrong. Felt even worse on CF considering how you complete a genocide for the sake of removing crests (doesn't help that other characters in different routes solve that issue with less drastic measures). At least here in AG everyone from the main cast is safe and sound.
Ugh. Having a hard time doing SB, the only reason I play it now is because of ferdi and caspar 😢 and now I’m not a fan of its ending too. Done with Claude and Dimitri’s route, I love the maps more in GW but the ending of AG is the best in my opinion.
I’d assume their ancestor was the creation of epimenides with their goal of carrying on their consciousness. Their encounter with byleth/Sothis at the start seemed to be what awakened the consciousness, Arval
It was explained in the secret chapter that Shez is nothing more than a vessel for Epimenides' consciousness and powers, we learn from support conversations that Shez lived with a supposed step mother in Ordelia territory, which is *suspiciously* close to where Shambhala is. So if you put two and two together, Shez was probably some test tube human creation or a kidnapped baby who was set to be Epimenides vessel, but apparently something went wrong and not only did Epimenides lose his memory, but Shez was taken away from Shambhala, likely by his step mother who was an Agarthan that felt bad about experimenting on a baby. Also, no, Arval and Epimenides aren't two different consciousnesses, they are completely the same being. Him talking to himself in Zaharas was basically the conversation in his own head.
I know everyone saying this and saying that of the endings but let me tell you something that you regret saying bad for my speech: this is a alternate three houses. Because of shez's actions, Byleth cannot be the professor. I like the endings, characters (new ones), everything. I mean, take this for example: whether is good or bad, like or not, that's how it works. We want jeralt to be playable character, now he's a playable character. We seen Monica in three houses now we seen and play as the real Monica in hopes. Rodrigue, playable character. Holst, in person and playable character. And who knows, perhaps DLC and updates will come soon. All of I'm saying is that because Shez was the reason why we are playing in three hopes version and how it's different. Like Claude in three houses he was trying to discover the church's secrets with Byleth and because of that, in five years later, the alliance are helping the church to find Rhea when killing Edelgard, to hope that he find his answers, and he did. But in three hopes, because of shez, the Almyra army was there and yeah everything happens. You have to be reasonable that claude was doing for the sake of fodlan, his people, and Leicester federation. It's not bad or good, it's neutral. I'm gonna speed things up because I'm playing three hopes right now. Dimitri, in three houses, insanity and want to kill edelgard. But change because of Rodrigue's death. Three hopes, less insanity and saving his people, you know the story. Three houses, Edelgard plan fail because of you know, Byleth. But in three hopes, plan worked because of shez and Monica saved and now she wishes to destroy both the central church and those who slither in the dark. You have to respect the game. They tried their best because, You know Ferdinand's voice actor passed away. And you know that this game gives us information of how things different compare to three houses version. Holy crap, that's a long speech, but you get what of I mean. Okay now I can my favorite game.
That is the largest amount of cope I’ve ever seen. Good or bad, that’s how it works? Ok, then expect criticism. That’s the worst excuse I’ve ever heard. In fact, all you are saying is excuses. This story is trash, and has zero grasp on the themes of the main game. “You have to respect the game” lol, just a massive excuses. No they don’t. People can criticize it as much as they want. And you pathetic piece of shit. That’s a human fucking being. Don’t use his death to try and defend your favorite game. Show some fucking respect asshole. The game gives more questions than answers and you know it. It’s boring, it’s lame, it’s a nothing burger of a game, and you know it, you can cope as much as you like, poor sales and viewership show exactly what people thought of this game.
@@sashasantiago5154 I think I might have gotten brain damage from reading your responses. “That is disrespectful to both game and us.” First, the game can be criticized. Sorry you can’t handle that. Game is trash, keep crying. Second, you most certainly do not get to say that. You disrespected someone that passed away. You don’t really deserve respect right now. “What are you talking about?” Umm, it’s all there. Story is bad, gameplay is bad, it’s all in the comment. So that’s really not helpful there. Read the comment again. “Who says about criticize? Nobody.” Look at the comment section of this very video, people ARE CRITICIZING THE ENDINGS RIGHT NOW. So that’s not true. Again, what I said still stands.
The best final map is in Scarlet Blaze, Golden wildfire is so si milita but without those who slider in the dark, and Azure gleam lost a lot when there was no hegemon Edelgard, unless you find pleasure in hitting a childish version of Edelgard again and again that I don’t understand how she is even able to fight
I am a huge edelgard fan, and ive always kinda disliked her ending in AM in three houses, mostly cause an act of such desperation is out of character for her (i personally headcanon the theory that she actually did that as an act of self destruction. In SS and VW she knows byleth will kill her and she needs to do nothing, but Dimitri had to be forced, so she killed herself by feigning an attack at the man who had a spear pointed right at her stomach, but thats besides the point) And i hate AG's ending even more, i want some closure on what happened to edelgard! I was expecting her to go back to normal after Thales died, or for her to be killed in battle (or both), but here she is just kind of.. left there, zero closure, honestly i PREFER azure moon's ending for edelgard over azure gleam, cause at least her dying is better closure than what we have here
The way I interpreted her ending in AM was maybe there was meant to be some deeper symbolism. Dimitri told her to use it to cut a path to her future and he'll rise up to meet her there. I think her throwing it back at him is almost to say cut a path to a better future. Which he does. It also could be interpreted as the conclusion to his words regarding the future, here they are, several years later, she cut a path to her future, Dimitri rose up to meet her there and in the end perhaps she saw him as someone who can help make a better tomorrow for fodland in her stead. This is just my interpretation though
Rhea's only the enemy in black eagles aka the red teams route in three houses, and this three hopes is poorly done as a half baked scheme to make more money from that .
First, Crimson Flower route in Three Houses and now, Scarlet Blaze with Byleth recruited route in Three Hopes. I guess both Edelgard and Byleth are really special cases. It’s something that sometimes we can’t understand why. I’m not objecting. I’m actually surprised for the routes that are quite different.
I wouldn't say that only scarlet blaze is affected if you recruit byleth, in AG one of your exclusive playable character rodrige survives this is a significant change too, only golden wildfire stays the same
Nearly 2 years later and i finally played and finished all of this game and yeah definitely better than three houses. Three hopes fixed alot of the problems i had with thr story and lore and hey actually made me like edelgard alot more. Of course the endings saying things arent over (cause like yeah duh) and leaving the future up in the air is a bit disappointing but i think its fine cause i believe these characters will reach the same goal in the end. Of course ppl will have thier opinions but i think putting the three houses bias aside and looking at the bigger picture will to see what i see here. Also shez > byleth 100% better in every way
I imagine she's probably just prioritizing the one she hates more. Yeah Edelgard and Shez have been a pain in her ass, but Thales has been a pain in the ass for like a thousand years.
Good Lord, but these endings are hot garbage. Only the SB good ending is actually even remotely above trash tier. Literally just, "Yeah there's still more fighting to do, but we're not gonna show you just 'cause we're leaving it up to your imagination." I understand doing this with 3 Houses, but this was some lazy arse f***** half-buttcheeked writing.
Blue loin is as closest golden path. Edelgard is alive and free . Got the game thinking one story one path not more heartaches and the endings feel flat.
Seeing the endings... I see once again my favourite route is Black Eagles/Scarlet Blaze one(One with Byleth Recruited to be exact, so that Claude stays a bro) XD Azure Gleam having Edelgard mindraped into being a TWSITD puppet like that is just terrible(Also Rhea is back in power, which is bad too... and Claude is about to backstab Dimitri for letting Rhea have power, so war will rage on for a long while yet.). Yet again making this route bad for everyone who isn't Dimitri himself or Rhea XD Golden Wildfire does well to get rid of Rhea, and ally with Edelgard... but that still leaves TWSITD problem largely unsolved, and they are actually worse than the Rhea problem. I guess we can only hope Edelgard will take care of that problem on her own... Only Scarlet Blaze(With recruited Byleth at least) appears to solve both issue of Rhea and TWSITD, and have end of the war already in sight, possibly even somewhat peacefully considering Dimitri realized Edelgard was his childhood friend in this case. I'm also relieved we spare Seteth and Flayn in this one, since I like them and it would feel terrible to kill any of them because of Rhea being a problem.
"Golden Wildfire does well to get rid of Rhea, and ally with Edelgard... " As if. Dumbass Claude kills the church leader, for no adequately explained reason and for what? Why would Edelgard just suddenly not conquer Leicester? She literally already attacked them and Claudes reaction was "Uh, i'll do everyhing you want now". Stupid route.
@@DarkAdonisVyers I liked SB because she's facing her two biggest enemies in Three Houses with no strings attached for her not so allies. Golden Wildfire might be the worst for some but liked to see Claude's more manipulating side and fighting the church. Azure Gleam is just duh, Dimitri vs Thales and lets trash more on Edelgard getting rid of everything. Even Azure Moon seemed better with Edelgard being the main enemy and "Dimitri hates Edelgard, the story" for me.
I mean, Edelgard is literally a f*** you to Faerghus and the Church of Seiros. Did you really expect a happy ending for her, after what she did to them?
@@DarkAdonisVyers AG has such cowardly writing that they had to replace all intresting antagonists with comically evil villains. It is like the anti-thesis of the game's themes.
How I would rank the endings (fair warning, I didn't like them, and I'm gonna be salty over it): *4. Golden Wildfire:* A Terrible ending for a terrible route. We murder Rhea for incredibly stupid reasons, and surprise surprise, nothing gets solved by it. This ending is basically just handing Edelgard Fodlán on a silver platter by accident. Anyone who actually thinks Edelgard will stop her conquest just because the church is gone have not been paying much attention considering she literally invades Leicester unprovoked earlier in the route, which had fuck all to do with Rhea. Claude will even admit as much himself if confronted in an optional dialogue, meaning we just killed thousands of innocent people for no reason besides him being a bloodthirsty piece of shit. And good luck allying yourself with Faerghus now Claude, because they will _hate_ your slimy ass after all you've done to them. So when Edelgard comes for your head you have no one to save you, and no one but yourself to blame. *3.Scarlet Blaze (Byleth recruited):* Yes, I am one of the few people who think the happier ending of SB is worse than the sadder one. For one thing, there is no reason for Claude to be in an alliance with Edelgard in the long run, so him betraying her feels much more clever than him just remaining her lapdog. And even once these assholes have finished their conquest of Faerghus, what then? Does Leicester become part of Adrestia, do they fight to remain independent, or what? There is just so much left up in the air here. Also, while it was cool seeing Rhea fight Thales, the scene right after of Shez and Edelgard sharing a high-five feels really lame for a final scene, it seriously lacked impact. *2. Scarlet Blaze (Byleth not recruited):* A big reason I prefer this ending to the other one is the fact that this one ends with all sides fighting each other, which feels much cooler and fitting than Adrestia and Leicester ganging up on Faerghus. Though I guess since Faerghus is the only nation that is just defending itself from aggressive invaders I just hate seeing them get the short end of the stick, so maybe I'm biased. *1. Azure Gleam:* This was the last ending I got, and also the only ending I even remotely liked, though even then I'd still only say it's okay overall. Still, given how overly negative I've been until now I'll at least try to focus on the positives here. For one, the final scene with Dimitri and Edelgard actually feels meaningful, and seeing Dimitri just taking attacks from Thales without even flinching was cool as hell. I know some people think Dimitri leaving Edelgard was cruel, but I actually think that was him showing mercy by letting her live despite all the shit she's done. Not like she would have done any more for him if the roles were reversed anyway. The ending does end on a bit of a cliffhanger (like they all do) with Claude still wanting Rhea dead, but unlike the others this is the only ending where it feels like things can be solved diplomatically as Claude probably knows he can't achieve his goals through brute force, so this one at least leaves us with some _hope_ (sorry, I had to). It's a shame these routes all end so abruptly because I'd say this game has really good writing when it wants to, but all the endgames feel so rushed and incomplete that it does drag down the overall experience quite a lot.
I read that game devs didn't want the game to think there would be a better ending without Byleth which is why all endings end so abruptly That is the issue the story is held back because the dev trying so hard to make sure that Shez doesn't outshine Byleth The whole Arval/Sothis plot is underdeveloped and Shez feels more like a side character rather than them being a protagonist you take them out of the game and the game plot would be the same
@@MattRogan28 I've heard that too, and it's so stupid if it's true. Like, even if they didn't want a "good" ending that's no excuse for basically just leaving the routes with no proper conclusion. There are plenty of ways to write a bittersweet ending that can still feel narratively satisfying, no matter what their intentions were the final product ends up feeling practically unfinished, and that is just straight up unacceptable.
I for one think Azure Gleam was the WORST Route of the Three, and I was a huge fan of Azure Moon, the Ending in particular being the MOST egregious. Dimitri leaving Edelgard doesn’t make sense, no matter how you slice it, and it’s the VERY fact the Ending is trying to present Azure Gleam as the most positive of the Three that irks me, as it DIRECTLY contradicts the Devs intentions to “Not Undermine Three Houses”.
@@MattRogan28 Ironically, I feel like they still had Shez outshine Byleth anyways, Shez is the reason Kostas dies early, which leads to the Bandits going to the same Fort that Monica is held in, then the plot goes out of control from there without earning it (I hated the Prologue being so incredibly rushed). The Devs knew Shez was pretty OP, so had to come up with a stupid (non)Rivalry with Byleth in order to make Byleth seem unstoppable (despite being fairly easy to Beat for the most part), then took it one step further and pushed a weird Sothis being different from Three Houses plot line which also went nowhere. And because all these Plotlines keep going nowhere, they end up leading to Byleth dying in such an Anti-Climactic way, that it ALMOST surpasses Joel’s incredibly dumb Death in Last of Us 2.
Dimitri walking towards Thales like that & leaving broken Edelgard on the ground was so badass! Best ending in Hopes by far & a good closure to the conflict. GW ending is dark & tbh it felt bad killing Rhea while she appeared as a hero, while Thales is alive & well. Claude in this game is very mixed between well written & a contradicting idiot. SB both endings are a joke, Thales & Rhea never die, both are "missing", even after the church is destroyed Edel continues the war & the bloodshed never ends, not to mention the high five was really cringe ☠
@@deltarunecharacter “Snipin’s a good job mate. It’s challenging work, outdoors…I’ll guarantee you won’t go hungry. Because at the end of the day, long as there 2 people on the planet, someone’s gonna want someone dead.”
Unpopular and hot take but, for a spin off, they sure polished and refined the characters and the plot better than in Three Houses. I still despise the overused lore in Three Houses. Nabateans fighting Agarthan humans because the latter harbored some envy or anger to the former and a whole genicide ensued? Gee where have we heard that before? Ah yeah. The Scouring (Binding Blade and Blazing Sword) A red clothed emperor wanting to shatter the current order and unite the continent under a new banner? Gee where have I heard THAT? Ah right: Hardin (Mystery of The Emblem) Gaiden (Rudolph) Awakening (Walhart) I honestly feel disappointed in the devs. Why couldn't Khalid von Riegan be the actual villain? It would have been epic and awesome that Fodlan had to face Almyran, Dagda, Brigid (Hispanics) and Sreng (Mongolians and Russians) threat, where Khalid was the Emperor of Almyra and crushing every Fodlandese, and Edelgard and Dimitri are actually in good terms but have minor differences in how the approach the invasion, and Rhea is just some forgotten Nabatean from some remote tribe in Zanados. Or Hell, we could have gotten a similar lore to the Tellius Sagas, when was the last time we had a Fire Emblem game that reused that? Exactly? And now some cheap Fire Emblem Heroes knockoff game is released after this. Idk, man. It just feels underwhelming and bleh.