@@shyshka_ Wait, I thought there was some substance in the video that Hoyo released as Harbingers were revealed. Arlechinno first made her appearance in that video, and she looks exactly like that. Any reason to assume Columbina wouldn't?
We don't even know if the Celestial gods resemble aliens. I think it's more likely they're transcendent humans and or like the descenders, Phanes and or their shades, like the sustainer. Columbina is a complete unknown but I think it's not unlikely Arlecchino might give us our 1st real look into just who and or what she might be.
It's a valid way of looking at it, since every nation has distinct features. Mondstandt is distinctly European, Liyue and Inazuma are east Asian, Sumeru is north African/Eurasian, and Fontaine is again European.
Actually its confirmed that he's from liyue in the pale flame artifact set which mentions the lore of the harbingers. Pantalone used to be destitute and didn't receive any favour from anyone nor from the gods in the land of commerce. Pierro found him and suggested that he joins the fatui. Since then, pantalone swore to make the biggest economy and replace the very thing that pumps money into the world as his retribution.
@@mihacimpric745 and Snezhnaya is also European (cuz it looks more like the European part of Russia rather than the Asian part, apart from the terrain that's more like Siberia)
1. The order of the voicelines of Tartaglia and the Wanderer corresponds to the ranking perfectly, it doesn't make sense for everyone to observe the ranks except for the Capitano. 2. Tartaglia says that he is ranked too low for Capitano and he doesn't even notice him, he also notes that Capitano is too strong in battle and Tartaglia wants recognition from him, he admires him the most and he respects strongest individuals, what makes sense for Capitano and his possibly title of "strongest individual in teyvat " 3.There are many leaks about the ranks, the strength of the Capitano and the concept art in which they stand in the order of ranks. 4. He asks Dottore about the gnosis situation as a superior. 5. There is a lot of praise and mentions of his absurd,incredibe power.Even Scaramouche, who tends to belittle everyone and does not praise anyone, nevertheless, even he gives the highest rating to Capitano, he say that Capitano possesses the apex of strength in cn, and at the same time he says how weak and more lower-ranked all the harbingers under him are, Varka says that Capitano is basically gods challenger, hard as iron and capable of destroying ruin guards with klee crayon, John Wick of teyvat.Jean says that Varka did not give such a description to anyone despite his character, and we should be careful if we meet him and not underestimate him.Varka's expedition and Mika were stunned and scared by the overpowerwd Capitano's presence aloe. Other fatui constantly praise him according to the Wanderer, in cn he also says that Capitano has countless military achievements and he is extremely dangerous. 6. It makes sense why he was sent to the warlike Natlan in the lands of the god of war, Pyro Archon, being the strongest harbinger, pinnacle of main antagonists now.We most likely see Capitano vs Pyro Archon for the last gnosis. 7. Pierro was never named as the first rank, but only as the "original harbinger" in Chinese, in the teaser, unlike the other harbingers, he is signed as "director fatui" he not ranked.
It makes perfect sense for capitano to be that strong considering his homeland is literally the nation of war. But i feel like because of that reason they won’t give him a fight, he will probably negotiate because in any way if they made a fight sequence with him(where traveler intervenes as usual) it would ruin his lore and the game.
Every Single harbinger is not human all are inhumans and there age is 100 plus and because they are inhumans there body is strong , durable and can hold delusion for long period of time , Childe is just human who will grow old and die.
@@abhaythakur133 not true at all. This info was never confirmed. Plus, dottore is still a human who just find a way to clone himself, capitano is announced as the strongest mortal, pantalone is a mortal who is obsessed with changing the balance between gods and humans, pierro is a cursed human and we know nothing about the others.
I want to see pyro archon vs capitano but they always do stupid situations to not to have gnosis battle. Nahida is weak, venti is weak, zhongli is retired, Raiden is robot, Furina is not archon also weak. I just hope there is one archon who rules her nation when we enter the damn region. And actually thinks about gnosis and celestia properly and giving info instead of okay take gnosis situation. Some say archon is dead and revive in the archon quest. Some say she has form of phoenix. I hope this theories all wrong.
@@nnthe.3154 natlan is gonna be a new location. Pyro main character. Pyro Archon. And natlan is the nation of Pyro I assume. So I would love to confront The captain there during the natlan Archon quests. Currently finishing up Fontaine Archon quests and Natlan is rumored and speculated to be in the upcoming update in August
@@cheeseoh Don't need to see his face. If he remains some faceless badass for the rest of the game (sans some late event costume which gives him a scarred, grizzled veteran face) I'd be perfectly fine with it. We already have enough pretty boys as is and Mihoyo's adding more.
What if Columbina was someone who was loyal to the primordial one and joined the fatui to destroy celestia as they were the one who killed the primordial one
@@cabemanis142Those assumptions were heavily prompted to be false though, with the heavy depiction of the shades, the nails still being present, the "heavenly principles" being mentioned, and apep even mentioning them. The second who came was assumed defeated even in the "before sun and moon". Matter infact, we have evidence to believe that The Second Who Came might be somewhere in the Abyss currently, as their abilities were toxic to the Heavenly principles similarly to how the abyssal powers are. Another reason the Second who came didn't win the fight is because they had heavy ties to the Seelies, but the Seelies are still scattered and forgotten.
I got back to this video and saw the 4.1 cutscene. Arlecchino is indeed confirmed to be Number 4 Harbinger. That leads it to this ranking: Pierro - Director #1 - Capitano #2 - Dottore #3 - Columbina #4 - Arlecchino #5 - Pulcinella #6 - Scaramouche (is now vacant) #7 - Sandrone #8 - La Signora (she's dead) #9 - Pantalone #10 - (a mystery/vacant) #11 - Childe
@@PeruvianPotatoYes, Crepus(Diluc's dad) is dead but there's a theory stating that Crepus might be the unknown 10th harbinger that Dottore eliminated, possibilities is that Crepus betrayed the fatui. If it's not Crepus, it might be another unknown character, a character that was erased by Irminsul, or the rank is simply empty. Edit: And also, Signora is dead after the events in Inazuma yet they haven't replaced her with anyone. As for Scaramouche after the events in Inazuma, he cut of contact with the fatui making the fatui believe that Scara has betrayed them. The harbingers held a meeting yet they haven't decided to replace both of them with anyone. Currently, I'm not sure what will happen at the sixth rank after the events in Sumeru knowing that "Scaramouche" was erased by Irminsul so the others probably are wondering why the sixth is still empty after hundreds of years. Knowing all this, it seems like they don't really plan on replacing the deceased and retired ones which could be the case in the tenth rank. In case the rank is simply empty, it's possible that there are certain requirements to become a harbinger or they are waiting for a "worthy" one.
Either way the ranking works though...based on how far we are in the storyline i think its likely we'll have to deal with 2 of the harbingers at least in Fontaine. The question becomes how many of them will be more reasonable (Childe) or can be changed (Scaramouche)....and how many might die (Harbinger death count: 1)
Alerchino will be playable so she will not die, i think the most likely Fatui Harbingers that r gonna die r Pantelone and Sandrone, idk im just guessing
@@zerogear6049 i guess she can 99%, if y see the cutscene signora get ventis gnosis, she already can freeze him without hydro Is almost impossible that the cryo arcon with her + all other gnosis cant do it
@andrysonss9493 I was talking about when she becomes playable 😅 she also can't use the other 6 Gnosis herself🥲 Nahida had the electro Gnosis but couldn't use it, and the Doctor said this too. The Tsaritsa is probably collecting the Gnosis to revive Nebelung
@@zerogear6049 about playable i dont think so bc of the game mecanics sadly, nahida cant use but she was jailed in akademya and she is a kid arcon, maybe with some tecnology like the one used in scara Tsaritsa could use another gnosis too
I like the theories that Arlecchino has the curse of the hilichurls, Columbina is a seelie and Pulcinella is a goblin that apparently is fucking ripped according to that frame
I'm still not sure whether Pierro is 0 or 1. However, having him as 0 makes way for Capitano to be #1 which then his tone towards Dottore on Winter Night Lazzo makes sense since he has higher rank.
@@akiramalfoy7440 Actually yeah you're right my bad. Although I definitely don't think it's Crepus. If you ask me, I think the 10th seat will be used for someone later on that probably betrays the traveler
Maybe it isn't vacant and an unknown member has the seat. Or maybe since Shneznia is the last country, you become the tenth harbinger and lead an army against the abyss.
Ok uhm for those who are saying that pierro is number 1 please go at the oficial harbringer trailer in the description you will see the name and Title of the harbringer and you can see it say Pierro DIRECTOR of the fatui he is not a harbringer he is above them
The ranking is wrong, Pierro is the leader of the harbingers AND the first one. Dottore is the second - Sumeru Columbina is third Capitano is fourth - probably Mondstadt (Bloodstained Knight lore) Pulcinella is fifth - Snezhnaya Scaramouche is sixth - Inazuma Sandrone is seventh - Fontaine Signora is eighth Mondstadt Pantalone is ninth Arlecchino is tenth - Fontaine and Childe is the eleventh harbinger - Snezhnaya edit: everyone chill eight months passed and I'm tired of getting notifications from this comment
these ranking are from new leaks... They said The Captain is no.1... also, we don't know yet the original ranking but according to scara/wanderer voicelines about the other Harbingers, you can see how Hoyoverse arrange their voicelines using their ranking... which is start with Pierro, The Captain, Dottore, Columbina, Knave, Pulcinella...and finish with Childe.
While it is true that you can't really trust leaks fully (since leaks are leaks even though they end up being true often) there is another thing: I heard that Pierro was never called the First Fatui Harbinger in the CN. Rather he was only referred to as the first ever Fatui member and Director of the Fatui. I think that's how it is
i think pantalone is from liyue, it is said in npc dialogue he has a grudge against morax and owns northland bank, and also shares design similarity with baizhu
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This is not correct my friend Pierro is rank 0. The world quest already hints at that. Salsa says she is the founder, therefore she should be rank 0. That means one Harbringer is missing. Remember Hoyo never shows you something that is meaningless
I think Arlecchino is actually from Khanrei'ah, technically? I'm not sure if she actually existed there before it fell, but she's a part of the Crimson Moon Dynasty :)
If Capitano is really the number 1 I will be happy, lol. Sorry but I can't just see a guy named literally ''Captain'' that is the only one to talk to Dottore like someone higher in the rank to be only 4th.
Yeah Capitano only works in First place now because ain't no way he's tenth with the attitude and authority he shows in the teaser, along with the reputation he has as the strongest human
But who is a new Harbinger? When Scaramouche was replaced to never have existed. So, there is an empty seat. Or maybe an all new character we haven’t met yet.
Theory that puchinnela will blackmail Tartaglia (stated in wanderer voice line) (puchinella is taking care of childe’s family) forcing him to kidnap the traveler into the fatui harbinger base
Pantalone is from liyue cause childe say as long he keeps our mora reserves up he also mentioned people say the northland bank true currencies are blood and tears
There is missing one.. The number 10th Fatui Pierro as a director 1.Capitano 2.Dottore 3.Columbina 4.Arlecchino 5.The rooster 6.Scaramouche (ex) 7.Marionette 8.La Signora (death) 9.Pantalone 10. ??? 11.Childe
Arlecchino is confirmed to be the 4th. And based on Childe's Voicelines, it matches the current ranking of the Harbingers. So put them in order and there you have it. There's one vacant seat in the Harbingers. Childe's voicelines is as follows About... Pierro/Jester Il Capitano/The Captain Il Dottore/The Doctor Columbina/Damselette Arlecchino/The Knave Pulcinella/The Rooster Scaramouche/The Baladeer Sandrone/Marionette Rosalyne/La Signora Pantalone/Regrator The 10th seat is vacant or unknown as Childe is the 11th So from the assumption that Columbina and Dottore and 3rd and 2nd respectively due to voicelines and the cutscene, and Arlecchino confirms they are ranked properly being the 5th the voiceline mentioned and ranked 4th in the cutscene, we can assume that Pierro is rankless and Capitano is rank 1 which means rank 10 is vacant.
@@whatdatechnodogedoin ahh make senses because the Scara voice line about them are also in the same order. Still, Idk why most people get it wrong and thought she was low in rank even tho her influence to the fatui alone would make her one of the top 5
Their names are in Italian but the only one I'm willing to genuinely wager is actually Italian is Arlecchino as everyone else is from a variety of nationalities
We have absolutely no clue where Sandy came from, it's just that because Mary-Ann (and every single Fontainian child ever, for that matter) has a vaguely similar hairstyle. I personally think that, if she is from Fontaine, she's likely just some rando who was inspired by Alain, either that or she's Lyris.
Well even though she died, the rankings haven't changed. The two mondstat fatui said something about her position remaining in place despite her death. Either it's a tribute to her contributions and accomplishments by pierro or there's something more to it. But I'll bet on the former.
Where do we hear that Sandrone is from Fontaine ? And if so, will she be involved in the upcoming abyss quest in 4.6 ? That would be nice to learn more about that Guard of hers
Pantalone and Dottore would be playable if what I think is right. All the playable Harbingers are ok the right side of Signora's coffin. First Tartaglia, next Arlecchino. Then goes Pantalone and finally Dottore. But also there are leaks who say Columbina would be playable, but she's on the right side... And I'm pretty sure Pierro won't be playable, he has like a big body not found on any other playable characters. Same as the one with the robot (Clara and Svarog, jk). And well, Signora. I knew she wouldn't be playable all from the beginning, because her model is far to BIG (I'm talking about models, not other things). Besides she's dead EDIT: Lord Farquaad won't be playable, that's for sure, unless he gets a better body or something like that by the hand of Dottore
He went to liyue on a mission to retrieve the gnosis. He is from snezhnaya. Just like signora being all over teyvat but she is originally from mondstat even though she no longer associates herself with venti or mondstat. Pantalone is originally from liyue as per his backstory from the pale flame set. Scaramouche's character arc is over. Everyone knows his backstory.
@@abhitejkumar6687 Don't mess with leaker like me even before release i knew Arrlechino was 4th rank 2 years ago , then even before release i knew Previous Knave was harbinger. Let me tell you something more now Capatino is half human half dragon he is hybrid , we will meet Capatino and old Harbinger in Natlan not Columbina. Follow the sequence Liyue - Childe new harbinger , Signora old harbinger we met before. Inazuma- Scaramouche new harbinger , Signora old harbinger we met before. Sumeru - Dottore new harbinger Scaramouche old harbinger we met before Fontaine - Arrlechino new harbinger and Childe we met before Natlan - Capatino new harbinger and one harbinger who we met before more chances are Dottore.
