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All Greek Star Wars shuttles are stupid. (They're called Abecederian? Really?) 

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And, yes, all these shuttles are stupid. Deal with it.

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@leeprice2849
@leeprice2849 2 года назад
Think of them as 1950's American car fins. Pointless but stylish 😎
@helloeverybodization
@helloeverybodization 2 года назад
Very Tarkin Doctrine.
@ElectricS01
@ElectricS01 2 года назад
Most of the wings are sensor arrays
@michaelpettersson4919
@michaelpettersson4919 2 года назад
@@ElectricS01 They can see our huge sensor arrays now!
@MrAranton
@MrAranton 2 года назад
I've seen car fins that seemed pointy enough to pierce leather...
@nyssawoods3604
@nyssawoods3604 3 года назад
"Hey, it looks cool!" seems to be the entirety of the Imperial engineering and procurement guidelines.
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 3 года назад
I was going to say that the Skipray Blastboat isn't too bad, but it predates the Empire. Same for the ironically-named Dreadnaught-class heavy cruiser. Hm. The Eye of Palpatine wasn't a horrible idea?
@nyssawoods3604
@nyssawoods3604 3 года назад
@@SacredCowShipyards True, but did it have safety rails?
@marcbrehaut9510
@marcbrehaut9510 2 года назад
Is it worth pointing out that Star Wars isn’t…real? I mean, I love it too; yet the point of the folding wings is to bring drama to what would otherwise be boring visual scenes. It animates the vehicles. Why does a small craft like the TIE have huge radiators in comparison to it’s size? Simples, the fuselage bubble would otherwise be lost in space (not yet owned by mouse corp). Stop inventing lore, sit back and enjoy the ride. Made more enjoyable because we’ve deployed the wings and you can now see out the windows.
@Reyn_Roadstorm
@Reyn_Roadstorm 2 года назад
@@marcbrehaut9510 The panels on the sides of TIE Fighters aren't radiators, they're solar panel arrays. Yep, believe it or not, the Empire was a proponent of green energy. Or red... or blue... or whatever color the nearest star happened to be.
@carebloodlaevathein6732
@carebloodlaevathein6732 2 года назад
@@Reyn_Roadstorm And yet they utilized widespread use of nuclear power in their fleet. Both conventional nuclear reactors and 'star wars space magic' nuclear reactors. And if I recall correctly, they even had some form of fossil fuel power plants and some vehicles with some kind of combustion engines but don't quote me on this.
@eljcd
@eljcd 2 года назад
"How the sensors in Star Wars work?" Well, there you have why the ships have so many windows...
@Fotoschiki
@Fotoschiki 2 года назад
Windows are structural weaknesses, Geth do not use them.
@e-jlehti1489
@e-jlehti1489 2 года назад
They even say in one of the movies, "pick up your visual scanning" - so yep.
@arch8angel
@arch8angel 2 года назад
they are clear pastisteel, so they are as hard as the rest of the plating
@npswm1314
@npswm1314 2 года назад
There is an in universe reason from some old source books (That people think is fanon for some reason.) stating that due to the incredible amounts of ECM and ECCM most ships have to be in visual range to fight. No one side can get a leg up on either ECM or ECCM enough to break this stalemate. This is also the reasoning for the extensive use of Starfighter combat. Star Wars sensors are actually pretty fucking incredible by our standards but they are almost unusable in combat. This combined with the inherent fear of centralized, automated defensive systems that seems to be rather commonplace is the reason why ships fight at visual range (And have gunners...)
@CepheusTalks
@CepheusTalks 2 года назад
@@arch8angel no they aren't, Grievous cracked those windows pretty easily during the Revenge of the Sith movie
@tucmakukla
@tucmakukla 2 года назад
It's the same as with the lack of railing. The galaxy is huge, with a lot of people and presumably lot of unemployment. Any lethal accident due to crash landing with wings extended brings indirect benefits - need to procure another shuttle, giving work - but also direct ones (need to hire and train new crew and whatever passengers they had).
@FourOf92000
@FourOf92000 2 года назад
that's... not how economics works but whatever (otherwise the US would just call up Japan and redo the Pacific naval campaigns with robots, and sending billions of dollars and/or trillions of yen to the bottom of the ocean every year would be justifiable as "jobs creation")
@ladywaffle2210
@ladywaffle2210 2 года назад
@@FourOf92000 Think about it this way: You know, inevitably, one destroyer is going to blow up. Don't know when or how, can't stop it from blowing up or save anyone on board. May as well take the free jobs involved. But yes, you are correct.
@torg2126
@torg2126 Год назад
@@FourOf92000 that's a large plot point in Ghost in the Shell and Appleseed. They call it Sustainable Warfare
@ThomasFishwick
@ThomasFishwick 2 года назад
Lore wise they have recognised the massive flaws with those giant wings. They are supposed to be heat sinks. Yes, believe it or not those massive wings are actually supposed to defuse the heat created by the ship. This is why fighters like the X-wings need s-foils. They don’t stabilise the flight, but the reactor. When running at full power they need to bleed off the heat somewhere… it just happens to be on giant targets! Design wise I LOVE the Star Wars shuttle designs, they are just so incredibly stupid you have to like them.
@OllamhDrab
@OllamhDrab 2 года назад
Well, accordingly, the ridiculously big wings with heat sinks could be *intended* to draw most incoming fire to less-essential systems ...and serve to dissipate heat from incoming energy weapons when they do get hit. Yaknow, stretching it a bit, but if you had a whole formation of those among other craft, suddenly they're kind of screening *each other* from a lot of angles.
@drake000666
@drake000666 2 года назад
That makes no sense when their are other ships that are equal or smaller in size that do not have them in the same universe :) the real reason they have them is they make for a more cool look for kids and makes kids want them as toys :)
@timberwolf0122
@timberwolf0122 2 года назад
So How do Awings radiate black body radiation? I like the wings, practical? No but sexy
@OllamhDrab
@OllamhDrab 2 года назад
@@timberwolf0122 Well, they do seem to have different kinds of engines etc in Star Wars. There's other ways to shed heat than to radiate it, though, various propellants/expendable coolants, for instance could carry away a lot of waste heat.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 2 года назад
Yep, they really are just radiators. Space stations around our planet have extended radiator panels to regulate heat. They look like different solar panels.
@kenju2268
@kenju2268 2 года назад
The large number of forward facing laser cannons on the Lambda is in part due to it being used to deploy Stormtroopers in hot zones, which it is able to do thanks to being equipped with deflector shields more that powerful enough to stop any small arms weaponry. They come in, lay down suppressing fire, deploy their troop compliment, then take off.
@jonumine6250
@jonumine6250 2 года назад
That would be great if the cannons weren't fixed front. The Lambda would require to either point the whole ship downward to lay suppressive fire, or make a dropoff, but cannot do both *efficiently at the same time. (The clone gunship does have articulated weapons, maybe a lot of them)
@Thekilleroftanks
@Thekilleroftanks 2 года назад
@@jonumine6250actually am pretty sure the lambda guns are in pintle mounts within the nose. it has very small vision of fire but it can move. but the clone gunship was even more problematic. both being rushed into service so its problems wasnt ironed out. and the fact it was used in a role it shouldnt have been. also the clone gunship had to many guns to be useful, 4 ball mounts, a chin mounted gun and a rearward mounted turret. yet the thing was made from paper and died the second it seen any sort of combat.
@adamofblastworks1517
@adamofblastworks1517 2 года назад
@@Thekilleroftanks the chin guns were also balls, and they also had 2 missile launchers on the top.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
@@Thekilleroftanks They don't need physical pintle balls like the Republic Gunship, they can use the magnetic field to gimbal aim the shots. That said the Sentinel ALSO had smaller guns with true turrets for laying fire when its own eight full size guns couldn't aim that far to the side or would be too destructive.
@RoamingAdhocrat
@RoamingAdhocrat 10 месяцев назад
episode 2 of Ahsoka and we finally see this done!
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 2 года назад
X-Wing is actually the lesser offender with the whole "guns at the far end of the wing" thing, the B-Wing had it literally at the OTHER END OF THE CRAFT! AND on the wing tips. Just because.
@Thekilleroftanks
@Thekilleroftanks 2 года назад
thats because the b-wing was a anti capital weapon ship. aka a ship design to destroy destroyers and cruisers with a powerful beam weapon. but then the rebel army. being cashed strapped as it was. didnt invest in a small number of well trained units design to destroy critical ships instead it used a stupidly expensive airframe. stripped the insanely useful guns and slapped more xwing guns to the old mounts.
2 года назад
@@Thekilleroftanks That is correct. Also wircraft with wingtip guns do have so called convergence: the guns are tilted to converge in a specific point. (Real life example: Supermarine Spitfire)
@Thekilleroftanks
@Thekilleroftanks 2 года назад
@ ya but outboard guns died off within a few years of being used. Mainly because they're bad 90% of the time
2 года назад
@@Thekilleroftanks Do you mean in real life?
@Thekilleroftanks
@Thekilleroftanks 2 года назад
@ yes i mean our world. during ww2 the idea of outboard guns became an idea some nations went with. mostly britian and france. mainly because they thought (because cannons in wings wasnt a thing yet) a shit load of light machine guns would be enough to knock out any plane in seconds, as such they needed to move them as far out as possible to both put as many guns into the wings (thanks to britian and the US badly developed airplane engine spects they didnt have many inline engines that could also mount nose mgs) and as much ammo you could get. the same thing happened with some gen 3 fighter jets but for a different reason. they used up all the space within the airframe for fuel and engines and the main weapon most people was expecting to use was missiles. so any gun was secondary so if you had the space shove it anywhere, thats where you get those planes with guns within the wing roots or farther out. the downside is that they had a sweet spot where all the rounds would meet, closer to the plane the bullets would be far apart, farther away the bullets would cross the center line and start rapidly part from one another, meaning unless you line up planes within that zone. all your bullets would miss. hence why outside of ww2 their only other use was on planes where gun usage was more if an idea and less of a reality. as for modern jets like gen 4 and gen 5 (just so you know gen 5 fighters are mostly stealth aircraft like the f22 and f35 and gen 4s are f15s, f16s etc) dont even use outboard guns, they have guns fairly close to the center of the aircraft but even then dont have the same design flaw as outboard guns, as in having very little flexibility, because you only need to aim for one gun, so having it somewhat far away from the center of the aircraft is pointless because you only need to worry about one path. as for starwars its worse. because they have missiles that are insanely good. case in point, the tri-fighter. thing had both tracking missiles and normal laser weapons, thing dominated anywhere it went. even during the empire days jamming wasnt actually that effective. because remember jamming works on both sides. also if jamming would negate tracked missiles it would also hamper normal tracking meaning any space battle between fleets would be meaningless because no one could target one another besides doing it the old fashion way. with maps and hoping to god they just move infront of the travel path for your guns. and i didnt say they werent used, i said they were flawed and used once and shoved in the bin of stupid ideals people had during the 1930s. hell britian stopped the practice with outboard weapons, for the most part.
@jhdix6731
@jhdix6731 2 года назад
I guess for executive shuttles for high level execs the RCS is not really an issue. Known High value assets should have a lot of outside protections, so they shouldn't really get into danger (and probably have enough spies on their tail that they couldn't really hide anyways.) The 747and 757s used by the Presidential Airlift Group aren't really stealthy either.
@andrewbutton2039
@andrewbutton2039 2 года назад
I would guess that the Lambda shuttle is a space Bentley equivalent, its a fancy ass ship designed to look cool.
@EpicSOB_
@EpicSOB_ 2 года назад
My head cannon justification from the far away guns that don't move is the "magnetic field plasma gimbal" based on an observed effect in the many games. The idea is that thare is a MFG capable of altering the trajectory of the outgoing plasma bolt (because they use ionized gas, not lasers) along a trajectory supplied by the targeting computer either built into the gun or centrally depending on the situation.
@johnroscoe2406
@johnroscoe2406 2 года назад
YOU HAVE A HEAD CANNON?! DUDE ARE YOU A ROBOT THAT'S SO COOL
@samuelansin8307
@samuelansin8307 2 года назад
In most games I have seen the xwings lasers, and they are lasers cause only blasters and lightsabers are plasma in SW, just travel in a straight line and don't converge so you just have to hope the target is big enough for the spaced out cannons.
@adamofblastworks1517
@adamofblastworks1517 2 года назад
Weren't the X-wings' S-foils supposed to make it so that it would be harder to evade the shots? After all, it only takes a single shot to destroy many of that ship's intended targets (probably vulture droids). You don't need hyper accurate shots in order to land multiple hits when you just need to hit it once.
@samuelansin8307
@samuelansin8307 2 года назад
@@adamofblastworks1517 as far as I am aware the S foils purpose is to vent heat cause having 4 laser cannons and a shield generator on such a small ship caused heat build up that without them would cook the pilot.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
I'm pretty sure that's actual official canon, not headcanon. There's SO many off-axis shots by TIEs especially, and just ships in general in the films. And it's as you said an outright mechanic in the games, especially the newest EA Battlefronts and Squadrons.
@dianabarnett6886
@dianabarnett6886 2 года назад
The only reason I can think of for the giant folding wing shuttle design is: "It looks cool." It's the Empire flexing on folks.
@witherwolf3316
@witherwolf3316 2 года назад
Ships in Star Wars don't even need wings to fly in atmosphere because of hand-waving in the form of repulsorlifts. Which are apparently made using black holes. Always black holes. They don't need wings. They may as well just be the tiny little Dorito cockpit and a small passenger bay with engines at the back. Guarantee you the Emperor will never be late to his spa treatment in that thing.
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 2 года назад
There's an argument - not a very significant one, granted - that wings serve as a possible backup system and at least take the load off the repulsorlifts a little. But, yeah, it's all aesthetic silliness.
@Wolfsbane1100
@Wolfsbane1100 2 года назад
@@SacredCowShipyards If the lore is respected, then the designs make sense. If you willingly ignore or wave away the lore, then the design is bad.
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 2 года назад
Yeah. No. Massively no. On both counts.
@tcav3556
@tcav3556 2 года назад
From what i understand. Those wings are after also deflector shield mountings. So maybe these big winged ships have really powerful shields for ships their size?Also the empire loves using the doctrine where every thing has to be scary and aggressive or imposing. which these shuttles with the large gun embankments do. To its detriment. Much like most of the things they build for the empire.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
It's not just having tons of the generators/projectors there. I remember reading somewhere that the specific geometry mattered. Exactly WHY it mattered of course they aren't going to say, it just happens to be optimal.
@Wolfsbane1100
@Wolfsbane1100 2 года назад
Yes, the wings have massive shield arrays, because they are by and large for valuable imperial assets - these things are so safe that the *Emperor of the Galaxy* flies in them. On more than one occasion! And the reason that they have large gun embankments is because there's no hyperspace-capable support craft for the shuttles, so they *have* to be able to defend themselves from Rebel or Pirate attacks.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
@@Wolfsbane1100 I think his big issue is that they're forward facing. And the Empire does have SOME jump capable escorts Palps himself gets the Royal Guard Interceptors, others could have Defenders or Avengers, the step below that would need Skiprays or Gunboats.
@3dartstudio007
@3dartstudio007 2 года назад
Imperial shuttles: "Yay, look! We have HUGE wings so we can travel in space or land on planets!" Millennium Falcon: "Wings?"
@MoDlegion
@MoDlegion 2 года назад
Aren't the shield emitters in the tips of the wings? Then again if you didn't have the wings you wouldn't need to protect them with special shields either.
@ItsJustVirgil
@ItsJustVirgil 2 года назад
Yes, the shields are in the wings. They fold open to increase the shield radius. I don't know why they want the shield radius increased, but that's what they did.
@hamsterhotep
@hamsterhotep 2 года назад
@@ItsJustVirgil Now, if the shields over the 'wing' sections were used to provide control surfaces while in atmosphere, by ajusting their density/shape to control airflow and generate lift, that would be awesome...
@ItsJustVirgil
@ItsJustVirgil 2 года назад
@@hamsterhotep I’d believe it
@347Jimmy
@347Jimmy 2 года назад
Seems silly to go out of their way to produce a bigger "bubble" shield when even fighters can produce one that sits perfectly around the hull (Naboo N1's, for example) Bleed through, perhaps?
@IRMentat
@IRMentat 2 года назад
@@hamsterhotep also massively inefficient, it would be like pushing 3 kites into the wind to help the controlled fall of a flying brick with rockets attached to it.
@Taneth
@Taneth 2 года назад
I think the original Darth Vader shuttle was just for show. How do you make a peacock limousine that also looks utilitarian and bland? You make it unfold into something big when it's in flight. Sure it could be shot down way easier than any fighter with the massive silhouette and static guns, but it's also generally only used when there's a command ship or other escort following it. But the fact that they kept up that style as if it had some practical purpose for other vehicles, that's just poor design.
@techstepman
@techstepman 2 года назад
in space you detect things with heat sensors...thats how we map stuff today and thats the most reliable method to detect anything in space. EM radiation or radar is gonna be difficult in space which is already flooded with all kind of EM radiation. space is cold so a ship will most definately be warmer than the vacuum background. So shape does not matter. Hiding your heat is very important....i always assumed that different wing configurations had something to do with heat management .....for example, when the x-wing prepares to attack the s-foils open up.... i assumed that a radiator was in the inside now becoming exposed to better disippate the heat from all the active combat systems and defences. You must also remember that everything in star wars is designed to be a cool toy. Also star wars is all about space magic so..maybe these shuttles are meant to be shield tanks , instead of using speed or agility or hull or shape to survive, maybe they just have strong shields? Wings in star wars also seem to have anti-grav generators...repulsors...stabilizers or whatever they call them in star wars.
@e-jlehti1489
@e-jlehti1489 2 года назад
This makes a lot of sense. I wonder if the huge wings were actually a huge cooling systems that lead the excess heat away from the core of the ships and in that way could even lessen their heat signature and detectability. I'll go with this theory the fan boy I am.
@npswm1314
@npswm1314 2 года назад
Thats pretty much exactly the in-universe reasoning. Spot on.
@dominiklehn2866
@dominiklehn2866 2 года назад
At least one of the graphics he showed even showed the wings absolutely LOADED with deflector shield emitters
@npswm1314
@npswm1314 2 года назад
@@dominiklehn2866 The ISC series of books is known to be kinda ludicrous with details.
@Drowsyspace128
@Drowsyspace128 2 года назад
I believe the shield thing is the actual explanation, the delta shuttle has its shield emitters on the wings and when its flying it lowers the wings so that theres an overlap of shields over the bottom of the craft Heres a video that excellently describes how it works ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JPuOLgznZ74.html
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 2 года назад
I think there is a variant of the Shuttle that has a docking connector in place of the rear canon - which I can never really tell is a great idea or not - as you loose the rear protection, but you gain the ability to connect to smaller ships (such as if searching them or transferring personnel) but they are right between the exhausts (seems kinda dangerous). But without that - the only way the ship can interact with another ship is evacuating the lower deck of air and exiting in a space suit. or landing in a large ships docking bay - or possibly some sort of pustule dock on the exterior that closes over a ship and pumps air in to allow people to exit. As for the wings... yeah it's the rule of cool for sure - though I guess they may be radiators of a kind too. But they make the Klingon Bird of Prey seem almost sensible by comparison - and those things are really cool and really silly at the same time too. There is a few other kinds of Stat Wars shuttle of generally similar shape unique to videogames or comic too - not sure if any of those count as being "sensible" though.
@iansneddon2956
@iansneddon2956 2 года назад
A docking connector makes sense if you don't get rid of the useless wings. "We've arrived and will land in the docking bay except our folded wings stick up too far for us to fit...."
@nsadrone1448
@nsadrone1448 2 года назад
Dosent the imperial shuttle have a docking connecter underneath it
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 2 года назад
@@nsadrone1448 I don't know I've never tipped one upside down in an attempt to sex it.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
Pretty sure there is a hatch on the bottom of Lambdas similar to the ones on the sides and tops of the Falcon. Also remember you can spacewalk in Star Wars with just a breath mask IF your ship's particle shields can contain an atmosphere bridge. It's what Han and Leia did in the belly of the Space Worm, and actually one of the first Star Wars Marvel comics after A New Hope had an arc that ended with Han and a Pirate making an exchange in space protected only by breathmasks and the shields of their ships.
@MoraFermi
@MoraFermi 2 года назад
Way back when Xwing vs Tie Fighter was the best space sim, I *loved* seeing these guys. They were always high value targets and they always sitting ducks.
@evensgrey
@evensgrey 2 года назад
Well, compared to fighters they were sitting ducks since they couldn't maneuver well and were big enough to be an easy target. (TIE fighters, of my GOD are they hard to hit. The AI pilots really CAN'T hit them when they fly in a straight line in the second game. This is fortunate, as that's how they fly when the controls are damaged. You can usually just fly straight until the controls get repaired and not have to really worry about getting hit.
@Kiwimaster76404
@Kiwimaster76404 2 года назад
The only one where I think the folding wings could make sense is the Sentinel class, but only if the wings were reshaped and repositioned and stayed folded during flight. Their purpose could be once the shuttle lands they fold down to provide a zone of cover for offloading troopers or gear or vehicles. The lambda I believe was meant to drop troops in hot zones and immediately fly off, the Sentinel if it was altered like I said I could see being useful to stay there whenever offloading would take a little while, so troopers aren't having to unload gear and supplies under fire.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
1:19 The Sentinel also has two very VERY different appearances. The one from the ANH Special Edition and Rebels where it's a Lambda with a belly but not much wider. And the EXTRA WIDE full platoon and support transport from older EU stuff, mainly videogames and a couple comics that you show a diagram of at the end. (Ironically in a scene where a cyborg in Rebels is projecting various imperial blueprints, one of those blueprints is the diagram for the extra-wide Sentinel that was otherwise completely ignored by the show which just used potbelly Lambdas.)
@DanielRMueller
@DanielRMueller 2 года назад
Ah, I remember the old TIE Fighter game fondly. The game had the Lambda Shuttles, which had only front armnament in the game. But also the Escort Shuttle. Which had a rear-facing turbolaser turret. A complete nightmare to fight as TIE FIghter pilot. A single hit could blow you up, and if not, you might suffer serious enough damage for some systems to break (like steering or thrusters leaving yo basically helpless against further shots until the system was repaired. Plus it might break some of your cockpit instruments, and they don't repair, so you might have to fight without the radar screen for the rest of the battle ). In one of the early missions, on a hard difficulty it replaced some Lambda Shuttles with those Escort Shuttles. So many mission restarts. But hey, I was a kid, I had the time. Couldn't do it today.
@hokutoulrik7345
@hokutoulrik7345 2 года назад
On Vader's shuttle having fixed guns, Vader once flew his TIE fighter from the outside, while using the Force to control it AND to make his cape flap while in a vacuum. Vader is just extra as hell.
@VGLounge
@VGLounge 2 года назад
I've heard but can't confirm that the wings act as cooling for higher powered shields and weapons, they supposedly can take a hit significantly better than an LAAT, but we never see them getting shot externally in the can movies. The Lambda is also supposedly built for hot landings, using those 8 guns for CAS to clear a landing zone that it's tougher shields should hold while a strike team deploys. It really would benefit from having turrets over fixed guns though, and more stern facing firepower
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
In the second book of the New Jedi order a usually pacifist Camaasi in a borrowed Lambda shuttle destroys swathes of Yuuzhan Vong Chazrach slave infantry and a good few vong too. They're TERRIFYING ground support.
@Adventure_Ops
@Adventure_Ops 2 года назад
The catch all explanation for all the large wings in Star Wars always seems to be heat dissipation 🤷🏻‍♂️
@evensgrey
@evensgrey 2 года назад
Which makes no sense. If they were radiators, they should be BLACK. They also don't need to be a meter or so thick, and they CERTAINLY don't need to be designed to have to be folded up to land.
@bast4rdlyreaper
@bast4rdlyreaper 2 года назад
I feel as though the reason that the wings fold in Star Wars is in the original release of Star Wars, George Lucas want his physical models to look more realistic, thus not just static models, and added the moving parts.
@mr.dakkadakka2845
@mr.dakkadakka2845 2 года назад
The folding wings were probably meant as a homage to ww2 carrier aircraft that could fold their wings for more efficient stowage. Of course these things don't really get much smaller vertically but then again it's not like the people making star wars starships are military aviation engineers.
@rallyfeind
@rallyfeind 2 года назад
All the names are jokes when they get a chance. There are races that are named Klaatu and Niktoo (day the earth stood still) There are so many more of the "dad joke" names or nodding jokes.
@autofox1744
@autofox1744 8 месяцев назад
The naming convention made a lot more sense in Legends. In that setting, there was actually a language called Tionese, which used a version of ancient Greek as their spoken language and writing system. They actually had a lot of cultural similarities to archaic Greece as well, including an Alexander the Great figure called Xim the Despot, who ruled a sizeable region of space in the pre-Republic era and is considered one of the setting's first true interstellar conquerors. His empire actually had some very interesting ship designs, which might be good review fodder!
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
The Kappa class is actually quite different from the others since it doesn't really move the wings all that much. Just has the same shape cockpit. And despite the name it's more a predecessor of the Sentinel Lander than the Lambda.
@boobah5643
@boobah5643 2 года назад
For bonus points? Sienar (or somebody) has apparently been making these things for thousands of years, because both the Galactic Republic and Sith Empire in _Star Wars: The Old Republic_ field combat shuttles that feature wings that fold down to interfere with landing.
@1KosovoJeSrbija1
@1KosovoJeSrbija1 2 года назад
8:55 imagine if a strong gust of wind came along and the thing flipped XD
@geoffo7920
@geoffo7920 2 года назад
Let's not forget that, for at least the Lamda class, the cockpit is also an escape pod. Stupid design because if you get hit while carrying a bunch of VIPs, the cockpit only fits a small number of people. Vs the larger number still stuck in the body.
@irritablerodent
@irritablerodent 2 года назад
If I was going to *try* to justify those wing things in-universe, I would need to explain why the obvious downsides of such a design are outweighed by the advantages. In other words the wings would have to be a necessary compromise to achieve some design goal. I suppose I would gesture vaughly towards the idea that the wings are part of some engine design, a necessary componenent of a type of propulsion device that provides some exceptionally desirable characteristics; maybe endurance, thrust to weight ratio, speed, etc., above and beyond what can be achieved with less exotic designs. Something like the V22 or X-35, a design with many flaws and problems that the designers hoped would be outweighed by its big gimmick. EDIT: Or the warp nacelles in star trek. Having your faster than light engines stuck out on the ends of vulnerable pylons seems like a bad idea, yet (almost) every ship is designed that way, so it must be a unavoidable compromise.
@vespervespertilianus8868
@vespervespertilianus8868 2 года назад
In Star Trek the justification for the pylons or frankly any ship that has the nacelles significantly outboard of the main hull is primarily to produce a more efficient warp field and also to reduce the effect of radiation generated by the engines on the crew. In the case of a ship like the Defiant, where the nacelles are tucked a lot closer to the main hull, it’s a trade-off in order to protect the engines since the ship is primarily a warship.
@adamofblastworks1517
@adamofblastworks1517 2 года назад
Didn't they put the shield emitters at the tips of the wings?
@pianotm
@pianotm 2 года назад
@@vespervespertilianus8868 Yeah, and in Star Trek, they actually put real thought into the design back in the 60s. It wasn't something they worked backwards from. Before the Enterprise was even put into concept art, it was clear that the nacelles had to be kept away from the ship to keep radiation away from the crew. The nacelles had to have line of sight to each other and there had to be an even number. There's anecdote, I forget who said it (it had to be a producer or a writer or something; I'd remember if it was one of the actors that said it), that talks about how Gene Roddenberry and Carl Sagan were having a conversation at a dinner they were attending about whether or not photon torpedoes could be fired at warp speed. In a lot of ways, the science of Star Trek was really overthought.
@Oddball_E8
@Oddball_E8 2 года назад
Why folding wings? Easy... Lucas loved old WWII planes and based pretty much every single ship idea he had on WWII planes. And some Naval planes had folding wings, for simple storage purposes. That's the only reason why he included a ship with folding wings. Because he'd seen a Wildcat in a picture or something, and thought it looked cool.
@FirstDagger
@FirstDagger 2 года назад
All Grumman aircraft fold backwards (i.e. Wildcat, Hellcat, Avenger). He modeled this most likely on the Vought Corsair's folding wings, which looks exactly like that ship.
@musewolfman
@musewolfman 2 года назад
You are 100% correct and I hate it. One point you didn't hit on about these ships (which I mostly think are dumb and also the Lambda) is the rotational inertia that wings (er, "wings") this large would have. This much weight would make them so hard to roll, even in zero-atmosphere. And once the roll was initiated, you'd have to fight just as hard to stabilize them again.
@TradewindSwayedPalms
@TradewindSwayedPalms 8 месяцев назад
Hi all. The idea of the wings being jammed in the down position is an interesting one. I will say that you might be able to argue that imperial engineers mounted the wings with pyrotechnic fasteners similar to how real world rockets separate sections. The bolts explode when a current is passed through them. Which would allow for at least a crash landing into a barrier net. The wings folding up is keeping with carrier based craft reducing space in a hanger, although unlike real carriers that doesn't seem to be an issue in the imperial navy. The lack of control surfaces is a more serious oversight. Thank you Sacred Cow Shipyards for the insightful video
@radioflyer68911
@radioflyer68911 2 года назад
It's for looks, not actual flight. Clearly they're not really wigs the way we think of wings. They have to be serving some other purpose. Obviously these ships use anti gravity when landing on a planet or in a ship's hanger. If they were depending on getting some kind of lift from them they'd be in trouble. The Star Wars design aesthetic resembles more the conventional war machines than the highly advanced technology of Star Trek. Star Wars engines look like they would be more at home on the back of a Saturn V rocket than on the other end of a warp core. A spacecraft can be any shape you want, round square or triangle. It's when it has to land on a planet it should take on conventional aircraft shape, unless lift really isn't an issue for it. The Falcon is a brick. Obviously it's using something else. Suspension of disbelief power.
@brentc2411
@brentc2411 2 года назад
The Sentinel class doesn't follow the naming convention because the only shuttle that existed when it was made up was the original Lambda class. The rest came quite a bit after. Also, "wings" in star wars aren't for maneuvering, they're for heat dispersion.
@skyeplus
@skyeplus 2 года назад
A lot of Star Wars tech doesn't make sense. It's just Lucas has adapted WWII aesthetics for his movies, otherwise there would be at least a lot more automation employed in target tracking and piloting.
@bobsterclause342
@bobsterclause342 2 года назад
The imperial landing craft, used to be called the imperial landing craft, or shuttle. The reason it's the sentinal craft is probably that it was named before the other ships were invented and a greek naming convention was made.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
Heat Sinking and the handwave of "Shields work better this way" Of course they'll never explain *WHY* shields would work better that way, it's just handwavium science.
@stolasamon-seere5319
@stolasamon-seere5319 2 года назад
Are those guns gimballed, or is the sight aligned for where the projectile/energy weapon will hit? I agree, though. Star Wars doesn't give a flying f. about physics.
@ryzekiv7147
@ryzekiv7147 2 года назад
I would argue that the folding wings are the starship Equivalent of a military/government officers cape/accoutrements. Literally just designed as a status symbol. Purely aesthetic.
@aetherial87
@aetherial87 2 года назад
Imperial Pilots: Sure, we probably will die, but we'll die in style.
@mikesmith2905
@mikesmith2905 2 года назад
Folding wings have one great advantage - I make toy sets to give away to kids and for a sci-fi set a shuttle is handy - Having wings that fold up allows me to incorporate landing legs as extensions of the folding wings such that the landing legs fold up into recesses when the wings fold down. My wings are a lot smaller. This has proved handy as the relatively cheap Airfix 2001 1:72nd scale shuttle is not currently in production (and that needed landing gear adding anyway).
@cameronfarrell9076
@cameronfarrell9076 2 года назад
"hey, it looks cool" is good enough for me
@user-uv4xm1lw9c
@user-uv4xm1lw9c Год назад
My head cannon for this ships is that they were built for "show of force" or "force projection" kind of thing
@j.michaelpriester8973
@j.michaelpriester8973 Год назад
In addition to not providing any maneuvering assistance, none of the wings would provide any appreciable aerodynamic lift. A) they are the wrong shape (though thats less of an issue than most people think: see toy balsa gliders). B) most of the wings are not at an appropriate angle to give much of a vertical lift component. And C) most of the wings would have a center of pressure so cattywampus to the center of gravity that they woukd send the vehicle a'tumblin'!
@seanhert9560
@seanhert9560 3 года назад
You should see someone about that cough. Probably some who wears a TiE.
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 2 года назад
The executive class variant of the Eta could land with its wings deployed because of the shortened lower wings.
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 2 года назад
Well, executives are special and all that.
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 2 года назад
@@SacredCowShipyards I would prefer the Mandalorian shuttle as at least its wings are more purpose built.
@pwnmeisterage
@pwnmeisterage 2 года назад
So the F-35 Lightning only has a radar cross-section of about 0.005m? It basically looks like a bird. A small bird. Flying at Mach 1.6 and 50,000 feet.
@marrqi7wini54
@marrqi7wini54 2 года назад
Which is faster than every single starfighter in star wars. In atmosphere.
@CrystallineFoxCF
@CrystallineFoxCF 2 года назад
Welcome to the empire, where stuff had to look cool and be easy to make, as that was the entire point of everything, strike fear into the enemy, and quantity over quality
@Attaxalotl
@Attaxalotl Год назад
I wouldn't put dogfighting in a shuttle and somehow winning past Vader, but the Emperor is never shown flying anything himself and he uses the same type of shuttle.
@Diveyl
@Diveyl 2 года назад
Actually the history of those are over 3000 years, reaching to the times of the "Old" Republic and war with The Sith Empire, were craft with those type of wings have served as shuttles.
@isaacstandley730
@isaacstandley730 2 года назад
8 forward firing guns? Sounds more like an attack craft than a shuttle. Maybe Lord Vader wanted a ship that could destroy a tank column on the way in.
@joshuamueller3206
@joshuamueller3206 2 года назад
Just wait until the Bad Batch where you have one of these shuttles trying to shoot another down. You just laugh, because all you see in your head is a C-47 Skytrain and C-46 Commando in a dogfight.
@SephirothEGS
@SephirothEGS 2 года назад
So the aerodynamics of these Shuttles makes sense if you consider that the wings feature repulsor generators (the same in-universe devices that allow a land speeder or starship to hover above the surface of a planet) at their tips and leading/trailing edges. They don't need to move to control the craft, they simply are turned on or off in specific sequence and arrangement and that pushes the wings in a specific direction. The wings need to be long and wide as seen in the films to pack in more repulsors in the right places to provide adequate leverage to grant the correct amount of pitch, roll, and yaw authority. These suttles could indeed be quite nimble if you compare them to the X-wing, which also features similarly proportioned wings and is quite maneuverable. The point of all this is that Star Wars is a space opera/western, not science fiction. The how and why of things is of microscopic importance in relation to the who, what, where, and when.
@stephenbond1990
@stephenbond1990 11 месяцев назад
Okay, I just got round to watching this and I just got to the rant on the weapons placement. I can't remember the exact source but I recall reading somewhere that Rebel pilots considered getting shot down by a Lambda shuttle the most humiliating way to die to the fact that you'd have to fly in front of it and let it get a bearing on you with how ungainly it was and the sheer firepower the shuttle pilot had at his fingertips meant anyone getting in his crosshairs was basically fucked. Oddly enough, overshooting a target due to being so much faster than said target was actually a very common issue in WWII (which is where Lucas took the inspiration for SW fighter combat from) which led to air forces first increasing the number of guns on their fighters (which is why the RAF went from 2 vickers machine guns on their fighters, to four in the early 1930s, then to 8 browning machine guns in the mid 1930s) and/or upgrading to automatic cannons (France, Germany, USSR, etc) and I can think of several aircraft in that era where overshooting one would end very, very badly for the interceptor.
@goofball3056
@goofball3056 2 года назад
6:40 or you're Darth Vader, and you're confident in your ability to outmaneuver an A-wing in a Star Destroyer, and have the skills (and force powers) to pull it off.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
6:34 That's the Delta Escort Shuttle from the X-Wing and TIE Fighter games. Three forward guns (Wingtip) and a massive fuckoff dual turbolaser on the ass. (That dies half a second later than the ship itself and can still kill you in that time)
@Webic33
@Webic33 2 года назад
In the original X-Wing PC games you could toggle laser convergence on/off to enable/disable that servo effect. If you didn't have something targeted, you'd fire unconverged despite the setting. At least the video game designers took it into account.
@evensgrey
@evensgrey 2 года назад
I don't recall any such control. Where was it?
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
11:28 The cargo bay on that particular version of the Sentinel at the end there is MASSIVE. 45 people 6 speeder bikes, 10 big repeating blasters and room to spare.
@LeonidSaykin
@LeonidSaykin 2 года назад
the designers of those things really liked flying animals
@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK
@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK 2 года назад
Forward guns for the more 'elite' shuttles could be a mix of intimidation and for shooting small low threat ground targets, like executing surrendering foes
@Beanballer
@Beanballer 10 дней назад
I had a theory that the wings spreading out made it look bigger and scarier on a scanner when you can't physically see it. either that or it made the shield farther away from the middle, so it'd be harder to hit the important bits or passengers
@bartlester1667
@bartlester1667 2 года назад
There's also a variant of the lambda which is a pure assault it has absolutely nothing to do with dropping troops off or has a drop pod or anything like that it is nothing more than a an attack shuttle with lots of missiles lots of proton torpedoes and lots of blasters on it and it has like a crew of three or four that control the the pilot a commander co-pilot and a weapons officer and a radar operator or some stuff like that but the rest of it is nothing more than ammo
@steelgreyed
@steelgreyed 2 года назад
In defense of Kylo's personal Yacht, that front gun which I think was a Heavy Laser Cannon, had an insane rate of fire, and most of the Star Wars Tech Canon and Legends has explicitly hammered time and again the "wings" on many combat ships are to dissipate the heat coming off the main guns, disavowing any kind of "solar power" quite the opposite. The larger your heat coil, the faster you can fire, and it effectively was a fully automatic grenade launcher with near infinite ammo, perfect for a Sith Lord who really didn't like what ever was in that general direction. Further this is exactly why the Lambda "shuttle" had an assault variant. If you were "directly" in front of one of these things, their alpha strike capacity rivals and can destroy Frigates.... Can it maneuver? Not really but destroying anything in front of it? The Emperor would expect nothing less. More on the flaws you "should" be pointing at. Nothing says hit me here with a lazer here, quite like something designed to radiate heat "away" from your ship, the LAST thing you will be worried about is if they FUSE a joint on your giant powder keg of unlandability...
@Rohan2300
@Rohan2300 2 года назад
My impression of star wars is that a lot of the technology is actually free to be whatever size and shape they need. So some designer said "lets make a ship with big folding wings because it looks cool" and they went with it because the Lambda shuttle is basically a peacock's tail that flies. Its whole thing is to be inconvenient. The ship needs a gigantic hangar bay, and barely avoids scraping the ceiling in hangars that aren't designed for launching tie-fighters.. The entrance ramp literally gets in the way of exiting the vehicle from the cockpit. I'm not aware of any concessions for the pilots getting out. This is a ship for expressing the power of its owner by force of inconvenience on everyone involved. Of course it has enormous wings that make no sense. Stuff like fitting radiators and shield-emitters and such into the sails is basically just taking advantage of the real-estate provided rather than being the purpose of the design. They obviously can fit this sort of thing into a smaller form-factor if they want to because they do it on every other ship in the galaxy. That explains the personal-shuttle stuff. The early shuttles we see in the clone-wars are fairly obviously designed to resemble the Laat/i gunships used by the clone-troopers. The chunky design, the shared angle of the wings, it's pretty clear design-lineage to me. Essentially the shuttles are intended to remind an audience that the owner of that ship has the authority of a gigantic army of clone soldiers and their war-machinery backing up their diplomatic words. Presumably the same reason the Lambda is liveried in stormtrooper white... The Sentinel is a weird one. The wings and sails are obviously dumb there. I'm of the opinion that the Sentinel is a spin-off design, using most of the same production-lines (how many lambda shuttles does the empire need? I bet they need more landing craft..) and retaining the wings, cockpit and sail is just a cost-saving measure. It also makes the sentinel clearly imperial, because nobody else is running lambda shuttles and the sentinel is obviously a lambda derivative. After the initial pattern was set, most of the other shuttles are basically a Branding thing from Sienar Fleet Systems. They don't make sense, they're more of a maker's mark. SFS shuttles have big ungainly wings and everyone knows it, which is how you know you're looking at an expensive imperial shuttle being used by a VIP and that you should pay attention. The empire is all about making sure people know who they are and what they're about. All this stuff about radar-cross-section is irrelevant. The empire doesn't care who sees them coming. Their whole doctrine is about overwhelming force and power-projection. They want you to see them coming and know you can do nothing about it (why else would they use 50m walking machines rather than blitz in via wheeled Juggernauts at hoth?) Armament-wise? The Lambda isn't a dropship. It's heavily armed and shielded enough to make anyone capable of boarding and capturing its passengers worried. Fighters are not the lambda's primary threat-vector. They aren't concerned about people killing their VIPs, they're concerned about people kidnapping their VIPS. Which takes a boarding craft of similar or larger size than the shuttle itself. Hence: The hefty firepower that isn't designed for deterring pursuit. The lambda's response when met with an attacker like that is to turn around and cripple the boarding-craft before fleeing as quickly as possible. The reality is that most of the time people -do- want to kill the VIPs though, which is a failure in the planning for the ship. Much like the Death Star and Star Destroyers, there is a real institutional oversight about combatting fighters in the Empire...
@evensgrey
@evensgrey 2 года назад
The thing that's really weird about the Tarkin Doctrine is...the Empire is simply NOT set up to USE it. The Imperial Fleet takes the appearance and manner of a military force, but it really isn't. They're really a jumped-up police force. They're BAD at fleet operations. In Empire, they try a fairly simple three-ship pincer and almost collide with each other! And these aren't just three random ships, these are ships in Vader's personal fleet, the Emperor's go-to guy for getting shit done. These SHOULD be the finest, most effective ships in the fleet, and they're a bunch of clowns.
@Rohan2300
@Rohan2300 2 года назад
@@evensgrey I'm of the opinion that much like in real life, the empire is tooled up with tactics and hardware to fight the previous war and ill equipped for the guerilla warfare of the rebel alliance. They are fundamentally equipped to face the CIS. With massive ground-wars and massive stand-up fights against other capital ships with swarms of disposable fighters.. Keep in mind that a lot of imperial captains, admirals and instructors fought in the clone wars and are drawing on that experience too. The one thing they're least equipped for is a high speed pursuit to capture a small light freighter. Especially as a group, and even more so with the spectre of Darth Vader gripping their throats..
@evensgrey
@evensgrey 2 года назад
@@Rohan2300 Oh, but they ARE EXTREMELY well equipped for pursuit and capture of a ship like the Falcon. They were just being idiots and not USING the correct equipment, which is their fighters. They still would have lost the Falcon quite quickly had she not been having hyperdrive problems that prevented her from jumping to light speed, but they didn't have problems with their fighters almost colliding because they've never practiced that kind of maneuver. Yes, the have lots of officers with experience from the Clone Wars, but the Star Destroyers used in that war are very, very different than the ones used in the original trilogy. Prequel trilogy Star Destroyers are carriers with guns for supporting fire. The ones of the original trilogy are gunnery platforms with some supporting fighters. The demonstrated problem is even what should be the most competent fleet in the entire galaxy can't conduct any sort of interesting close maneuvering without risking hitting each other. The can operate as a long-range bombardment fleet, or individual heavy ships, but they SUCK at any kind of real fleet battle. That's what makes them a jumped-up police force, rather than a real navy. The Empire wasn't supposed to NEED a real navy, and to be honest, the Rebels couldn't be countered by one anyway. For a navy to stop another navy, there needs to be a proper opposing navy, which the Rebels really don't have, and it has to be willing to have a proper fleet battle, which the Rebels won't because it would hand the Empire the advantage. The Rebels have smart commanders who understand the first law of all combat: Make the enemy fight YOUR way, don't let him make you fight HIS way. (The fundamental principle of all tactics, which is what you use in a battle, is thus: Apply your strengths to your enemies weaknesses while simultaneously preventing the enemy from applying his strengths to your weaknesses. If you succeed in conducting this tactical principle, you have made the enemy fight your way and not fought his way.) In a massed fleet with simple maneuvers, the Empire can always get more ships with more firepower than the Rebels, so it would be stupid of them to ever allow a massed fleet battle...except when the Emperor himself was on the battlefield, potentially vulnerable. The Emperor's death was the REAL objective of the Battle of Endor, although the Rebels only learned he was there later. Without him, the Empire crumbled, because there was nobody left who could hold it together. (Anyone able to hold the Empire together would have been a threat to the Emperor, and so would never have been tolerated by him.)
@safirahmed
@safirahmed Год назад
It's a conspiracy theory but some have said that Jar Jar Binks is a Sith Lord and if so could explain anomalies in the Star Trek/Star Wars universe under JJ Abrams as no one has ever seen them both in the same place at the same time.
@cracno1125
@cracno1125 2 года назад
Finally, someone fucking said something about guns on the tips of wings. I keep having people tell me bullshit like "The Xwing has computers that aims those guns!".
@joaomonteiro5538
@joaomonteiro5538 2 года назад
How about the resistance shuttles from The Force Awakens, the ones the flew sideways? Fun times...
@Wearyman
@Wearyman 2 года назад
I am a massive Star Wars (Not DisneyWars. Actual Star Wars) fan. But I 100% agree with you. Even as a 9 year old child watching this on Betamax tape while laying on the floor watching and eating popcorn I thought to myself: "That shuttle looks kinda dumb. Why are the wings so BIG?" It's always been a bugaboo with Star Wars fans. So, OF COURSE, Disneywars doubled down on it by making the wings EVEN BIGGER! #facepalm
@sergeantsharkseant
@sergeantsharkseant 2 года назад
The seperatist shuttle is actually pretty nice it has a somewhat small fin and while completely unarmed so is the Air Force one
@sixhundredandfive7123
@sixhundredandfive7123 2 года назад
I like to think of the Empire kinda like Soviet Russia; oh look, last week you managed top cereal manufacturing factory? Now you're our shuttle designer.
@usagifang
@usagifang 2 года назад
The empire never cared of wether it's practical or not as long as it makes a statement. Look at the rediculus AT-AT.
@ditmarvanbelle1061
@ditmarvanbelle1061 2 года назад
I thought it was meant to make the ride more luxurious, and perhaps for collecting solar power (like TIE fighters) improving its autonomy. Not sure if these things can enter hyperspace but if so, the added stability might increase the distance one can jump accurately -- I'm sure if you keep spitballing ideas you can come up with some reason the thing works the way it does ;-)
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 2 года назад
The solar panel concept on the tie fighter is the dumbest thing ever.
@jchoneandonly
@jchoneandonly 2 года назад
1, they might be able to radiate heat usually. 2, I suppose that's an idea
@Wortheins
@Wortheins 2 года назад
The tie fighters panels are to radiate heat away from the engine according to lore... well that was the retcon anyway, someone pointed out that it was idiotic as wings, so they said solar panels and then someone said they are stupid as solar panels... so they said "they radiate heat from the engine" and everyone shut up lol
@swan3swan
@swan3swan 2 года назад
@@nunya3163 They're obviously shields that can absorb incoming laser fire (and I'm not joking--check the OT, you never see a TIE blown up from the side, and it seems like something the model designers would have thought up as they made them). Obviously they can't take repeated hits, but common blasterfire and anything less than heavy artillery can probably get absorbed by those. No, it's not in any sourcebook, but if you just think of it as an on-screen thing, the TIE Fighter becomes much more deadly and menacing. TLDR: Solar panels absorb light and radiation, laser blasts are light and radiation (yes, kinetic energy...), two and two makes a safe ship.
@michaelpettersson4919
@michaelpettersson4919 2 года назад
They could make thease shuttles and the tie fighters make sort of sense if this isn't really wings but panels needed for some kind of propultion system. If that is true and Sienar Fleet Systems are producing thease shuttles it would make sense since they also produce the tie fighters.
@Round_Slinger
@Round_Slinger 2 года назад
Whenever someone mentions star wars shuttles, the first one that comes to mind is the Lambda.
@Stormeris
@Stormeris 2 года назад
I hope he never does the Vulture droids, because i love those guys
@matthiuskoenig3378
@matthiuskoenig3378 2 года назад
I quite like the separatist shuttles in star wars, the dorsal fin is stylish armour for long distance commincation equipment, otherwise its and rounded (aerodynamic) brick.
@maybeharold
@maybeharold 2 года назад
Although the Delta class was a literal defensive beast. Krennic had an amazing hyperdrive combined with multiple redundant shield deflectors Highly doubt the delta is taking damage to its wing mechanism unless it tried fighting a capital ship, which cowardly krennic would never do.
@the23rdradiotower41
@the23rdradiotower41 2 года назад
Apparently on the upsilon (idk about the other shuttles) the wings carried some scanners and more importantly the shield generators and they had to be far out so it would cover the whole craft I think.
@mogreen19
@mogreen19 2 года назад
I would see the Tydirium shuttle just like a white stretch limo: it is oversized to be flashy and impress. Or like sailing yachts that have more sails just to show off. Also Tie Fighter/Bombers and Star Destroyers are all made in Grey, only the Emperor and Vader fly in a white shuttle which stand out pretty bright with the dark backdrop of space. It is simply made to stand out.
@elimgarak1617
@elimgarak1617 2 года назад
So you are saying that the giant wings are equivalent spinning rims and flashing neon lights on pimped out cars?
@mogreen19
@mogreen19 2 года назад
@@elimgarak1617 No, they are like an extended stretch limo that was never designer to be that long nor is there any need in the first place.
@elimgarak1617
@elimgarak1617 2 года назад
@@mogreen19 Like a regular stretch limo or the extra-extra-long stretch limo? Because the first one has a purpose while the second one does not and is pretty silly.
@mogreen19
@mogreen19 2 года назад
@@elimgarak1617 I would say flashy and silly. Built to impress/intimidate.
@thomasjenkins5727
@thomasjenkins5727 2 года назад
You're not wrong... but I'd like to point something out about the poorly named shuttles. They look VERY cool. Some of the best looking vessels in Star Wars.
@nickthompson9697
@nickthompson9697 2 года назад
Finally, someone willing to talk sense at my inner child.
@ladywaffle2210
@ladywaffle2210 2 года назад
One minor comment about shuttles taking damage to the mechanism that lifts and lowers wings: If they take damage to that part, there's about a 90% chance that the shuttle is going down anyways. It's a bit like shearing off the wing of a fighter jet.
@someidiotwithnoname
@someidiotwithnoname 2 года назад
Well not only that but actually landing in a hot zone is a risk by it self. The time it take to decelerate to land and acceleration needed to take off again significantly heightens the time table the shuttle can get shot at (if we are talking about area with no cover). Also all of this shuttles have one ramp. Defenders just need to get a heavy machine gun in place and smile at their kill count. And those shuttles make big targets. I bet they explode really well.
@bob_._.
@bob_._. 2 года назад
Dude, you just don't understand how stuff worked in other galaxies back in the day.
@casbot71
@casbot71 2 года назад
Sorry we can't fly into the atmosphere of that planet - _there's a strong crossbreaze._ Any turbulence at all is going to throw one of those around without some sort of *superscience stabiliser* … looking at you Tie Fighters.
@davidwooden3878
@davidwooden3878 11 месяцев назад
The Enpire really invests in the aesthetic
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 11 месяцев назад
I guess if you're going to do it...
@DaedalEVE
@DaedalEVE 2 года назад
Rule of Cool. It’s like that because it looks good.
@culturalliberator9425
@culturalliberator9425 2 года назад
Guys, you don't need wings in space.
@daskraut
@daskraut 2 года назад
excerpt from wikipedia: "Abcde (pronounced /ˈæbsədiː/) is a feminine given name in the United States. As many as 373 children, all girls, were named Abcde in the United States between 1990 and 2014.[1] As of 2017, 373 females were named Abcde.[2]" that's what this reminds me of.
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 2 года назад
Well that's... unfortunate.
@Peorhum
@Peorhum 2 года назад
I think the idea is the guns are synchronized, as guns were on gunned fighters on earth. The shuttle were armed more for self defense and attacking ships and ground targets at times, not fighting fighters.
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 2 года назад
If they were really for self-defense, they'd be turret-mounted, not axially.
@Norbert_Sattler
@Norbert_Sattler 2 года назад
I think the best "shuttle" is probably the ATR introduced in the first X-Wing. ^^ Oh how many times I died to crashing into their wrecks after shooting them down.
@johnroscoe2406
@johnroscoe2406 2 года назад
YES! That is SO TRUE lol and it was just too damn easy! Especially when the game would inexplicably cause their wreck, that was heading away from you when you killed it, somehow do a 180 and come right at you upon destruction lol! I hated that! And oddly that's part of the charm. I miss those days.
@Bored_Kaga
@Bored_Kaga 2 года назад
Lambda class: Strike fighters in disguise
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 2 года назад
Looks at Lambda... Looks at Klingon BOP... INFORM LORD VADER WE HAVE INTERGALACTIC COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.
@mandomerlie1997
@mandomerlie1997 2 года назад
On that sentinel class cross section it says there are manuvering jets on the wings.
@ambassadorofreee3859
@ambassadorofreee3859 2 года назад
Yes the "wings" are stupid but they kinda have critical stuff in them for those things to fly. Which on further examination makes then even more stupid than what you initially thought them to be :'D
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