Before you can make a true honest comment on this engine and Truck You (REALLY) need to go Test drive one first,,, I've Owned one now for 6 weeks I Traded a 2015 EcoDiesel in on it a 2020 Silverado 2.7 Turbo, and before that I was a Cummins diesel man for over 25 years, And so far its my most favorite truck I've ever had its like driving a diesel that runs on regular gas, Plus got A Life Time Power-train Warranty. I have always been so called old school but I think I'm on board with this new Technology. With that being said this is a great truck for what its designed for NOT FOR TOWING LOADS OVER 7,000 Lbs I don't Tow much over that anymore so it works great for me, Thanks for reading....
sirgrundel I would for sure walk before I would drive a Ford Ranger , but all jokes aside my truck drives and runs like a diesel and a heck of a lot better than the Ecodiesel I traded in after the emissions recall fix it just had no power and all I tow now is a 3800 lb boat hauling loads isn’t a problem at all, my true review after 5 1/2 months and almost 10k miles my truck runs and drives great for everything. Thanks for your response. P.S. also I can drive around in town normally and get 28-29 mpg and still have all the power when I want it, and when you get into the Turbo a lot I still get 17-18 mph, thanks again.
Any vehicle can feel impressive when you take it on a 30 minute test drive. As far as long term durability and reliability a test drive doesn’t prove anything. Theres more plastic and electro-gadgets on this complex little engine than GM knew what to do with, and I bet there’s going to be a lot of owners trading it in for a V8 cause they wish they had more truck, especially after the first maintenance bill.
Chris Douglas I’ve put 12K on mine so far using for work and play and it has preformed better than all the other Diesels I have had also The truck came with a Lifetime warranty and only draw back to that I have to have it inspected at that dealer once a year so I am planning on driving it until the wheels fall off or what ever falls off first, Thanks for reply
I’ve had mine for a year and a half, around 30,000 miles and I have nothing but good things to say. Relatively quiet engine but it still feels powerful (and I have a crew cab). The turbo actually sounds pretty good, I find myself flooring it in tunnels and underpasses just to hear it.
@@MCHIBullDog Gotcha. Now thats its broke in, im tempted to drive it a bit harder, I just worry about wear, and how these engines will hold up. The 8 speed automatic is garbage and it runs hot would be my only complaint. You had anything major happen yet?
I own a 1500 dbl cab Silverado 2022 with this engine. So far I love it. The torque feels so satisfying. I sell chevys and trust it whole heartedly. Even my guys in service have admitted that these new 4 bangers never have issues so far. We are 3 years in now. They pull just as much as the other 1/2 tons and have more torque. You guys really need to drive one before shitting on it. If you’re buying a new truck I would choose this or the 3.0 inline 6 duramax. Our GM Trainer said that these two new engines are unbreakable even after the extensive torture tests. And who are we kidding? Most of us truck guys don’t make it 4-6 years without upgrading anyway. Cheers!
I keep hearing this guy mention durability, yet I see a ton of plastic fittings on the cooling system with the bypass to help the engine warm up quickly. That is what is going to strand you on the side of the road. Not to mention it’s buried in the back under the intake, going to be a pain to fix all those cracked/leaking fittings when you can’t even get to them.
Of course you are guessing at that but sometimes high tech is surprising. In the early 70s some thought computer systems on cars would you you always broken down.
I've driven suburbans and Yukon's all my life with 350s and 5.3 l V 8s. I've run them for 10 years or more and driven them between 350000 to half a million kilometers, and they were still going strong. When I see reports that come out that show this motor can do that, I'll be a believer.
I have a 2021 and it’s the best performing pick up truck I have ever owned. I’ve been driving Silverado’s for 10 years and Ford before that. I’m definitely a believer. It will defy what you think a four-cylinder can do. Your buddies will think it’s a diesel if they don’t know any better. It’s great, also the turbo sound is excellent
Mine has been reliable. About 6,000 miles. It's quick. Pulls a large covered motorcycle trailer without even noticing. I'm on a 3 year 45k lease and don't plan on buying. My 08 Avalanche with 5.3 (AFM disabled) is at 235k. Love the Avalanche. Literally leased the 2.7 Custom for weekends and not fighting with the wife to take "her Avalanche " hunting in the fall. So far I'm impressed.
That cast iron ban feature of the piston has been out now for close to 30 years . Mahle, the one company that makes pistons machines the ring grove in a keystone method so as to prevent ring breakage. The presenter never mentioned anything about the electric water pump…a nice feature
I Love my 2.7 I have a 2 ton trailer that I pull you can't even tell you're pulling it fully loaded. WOW Thanks Chevy Love the Gas mileage can't wait to see what you do with it next
So many positive comments, lol Try: Straight six with single turbo, direct injection with port injection added after 4k RPM. Double over head cam. Skip all that active cylinder management stuff. Skip the variable cam. Oh and bring back the six speed standard!
I have a 2022, 4x4 and I do love it. I keep trying to find youtube videos pointing to potential issues but nothing scary so far. I did pull a travel trailer and I didn't even know I was pulling it so it has plenty of power, at all times. Pulled a travel trailer with a 2010 Silverado 5.3 and I could tell I had something behind me!
Just got a 22' 2.7 crew cab and it's a really powerful motor. Gas turbo engines are the future. Lots of low end grunt with great fuel economy. got 27mpg driving around the lake. But average on all miles is 21.8 and i like to get on it out of corner. its impressive
Instead of wasting boost from the turbo waste gate, store it in a chamber and reuse it at throttle increases when the turbo would normally lag due to spoolup. The larger the chamber the better. Computer operated discharge of the boost would need to be actuated via the ecm. Put some of this tech on the 5.3. 5.3 turbo, ewp, boost recycling to eliminate turbo lag, dual lobe electronically actuated camshaft dohc. And whatever else you used to make a 2.7 liter pump out 310 hp with all of that awesome torque. Very well done.
Such a great engine, give a 10 year , 100 k power train warranty , with no fine print. All components including electrical and computer controls. Etc....
10 year 100 k warranty is shit…..nothing breaks on a truck in 100 k…after 100k then you can sweat it….cost to repair looking at all the plastic and hoses and turbos and no space. ,my guess it’s going to be a nightmare ,and it’s going to be expensive…60 grand for a truck and they guarantee 100 k. Please I’ll keep my old 350 ,
@@chrsshears4528 well sad thing is it like 36k warrenty. I have a 2005 GMC Serra. Trucks are a rip off today. Dont car companies realize its a work truck and the guy isn't pulling in over 100k per year. . I personally think car companies are on the way out.
My 2018 5.3l has 61000 miles, change oil every 3500 miles, and quite a few hrs for the miles...3350 eng hours and works 100%. No leaks and doesn’t burn oil at all. If this 2.7l reliable like that I would definitely try one.
Wait until the lifter sticks on 5.3. Waiting 3 months now on a Jasper rebuild. Looks like 5-6 months. Can’t see a 4 cylinder holding up so Toyota next time I didn’t leave Chevy they left me.
Check it out, yes I work at a dealership, when I got in the business (30 years ago) these were the power specs. 4.3 V6=160 HP. 305 8=175 HP, 350 V8=200 HP.
The engine reminds me of old aircraft radial engines we were trained on in A&E school back in the 1970's. Back then our teachers were WW ll air corps guys and they liked training us on their old stuff.
My number one question about this engine is how it's going to last when it's under boost for minutes at a time when pulling up a grade. Engines are generally designed and tested for being under boost for less than 30 seconds at a time. I guess time will tell.
Most engines like these are tested for hundreds of continuous hours at full throttle, varying between full HP and full torque all while shocking the engine with different coolant temperatures.
Reliability first......after a 100k miles then we can start to say there’s durability. After another 100k miles then you can do a little bragging at the tavern.
I like how people crap on this little engine and complain about " why not just get 5.3 V8. For all the dim people out there..... It's the base engine now. It's not meant to compete with higher cost engines. You can get these trucks pretty cheap.
I am an old school v8 kind of guy. I have also dabbled in hi-po 4 and 6 cylinder stuff. I feel better about the 4 cylinder on a truck after watching this, but I am still hesitant getting one in a truck that will tow a car and trailer. No heavy towing...is a more realistic possibility. If your oiling system and valve train are not 100% DEAD NUTS NO COMPROMISE NO EXCUSES RELIABLE, IT'S A FAIL. Those are two features which gave the GEN 1 SBC a huge advantage over other brands for decades. The DOD LS GEN4 v8's have a huge valve train reliability problem, I have a 2015 5.3 Silverado, and I disabled the v4 to v8 mode so it will live. I can't buy a Chevy Truck, and hope the internals are reliable, so for now give me the v8. Now that engine in a rear wheel drive car, or better yet a crate version I can swap into my 75 or 79 Chevy Monza....NOW WE ARE COOKING WITH GAS!!!!
Two points. One is your frames. Wax on wax off. The other is that an overworked 4 banger will eventually spin its bearings and have an affinity for gas. A lot of gas. You'd be better off putting the I 6 250 or 292 from the 60's. Great mileage, smooth as silk and will last forever.
Good day Robert Slegers. I think it depends how you drive them. I am 70 & I,m not in a big hurry to get to the next intercession. I do back road driving. Yes 4-3 was a very good engine.Up here in Ontario a litre is $1.34/litre X 4.54=6.08 per gallon. Thanks
I'm an automotive machinist. Very concerned about casting dynamics, quality of the aluminum, and size of cooling/ oil galleries. What about head gasket? O rings? No mention. This is a brand new design. Buyer beware, YOU are testing this unit in real world.
This looks like a very cool motor, I'd love to have this in a small truck-based SUV, like the forever-rumored "wrangler killer" they're "working on". If it were real and had this engine, that would be pretty cool.
Check back with me when port injection is added. For those who take short hops with this engine, expect carbon build up on intake valves in a very short period of time.
I want this for my old project car. 1989 Chrysler Conquest TSi with SHP package. 2.6L SOHC. Swapped out TBi to MPi. 320HP, 420TQ, but all custom parts, hard to find. Perfect match. Close to original but modern reliability.
Most of the components are made in China. GM loves to source all of their components in China and ship the junk to the USA to assemble it. Most of the genuine GM VVT components that I’ve replaced on GM engines have China printed on them. GM does this far more than Ford.
I don't think I want a vehicle with an engine where mass was removed in every area possible, which often means plastics. Saving weight from the heads of bolts? A few years down the road, after a few thousand start-stop cycles, these lightened / plastic parts could prove troublesome.
From the company that also brought you.. The Vega aluminum engine, the Olds "diesel" the Caddy 4-6-8, the Northstar, the HT4100, Crossfire injection. The 4.3 V8, the new 5.3 that eats cams and lifters. Did I forget any other mechanical marvels from GM?
It's got potential but time will tell. Engines & Transmissions have been making huge strides lately. If only they could get the EPA off our necks they could really make these things efficient and perform well.
I just bought a 2020 with one of these in it. The thing shits and gets for such a little engine. Almost wish though it wasn't so torquey cause it doesn't do well in the rain.
I understand what you're saying but you bought a truck and a Truck should have bottom and torque please don't complain to the car companies and then have them make some more soccer mom trucks
All I wanna know is how big of a turbo can I stick in there, seems beefy enough to accept a bigger turbo. Would like to see the skirting holding down the crank on a vid.
@@mikeriv60 no sir 2wd. At 70 mph and mixed with city drivying avg 22 mpg. Driving 70 mph with cruise control on 25 mpg. My truck monitors mpg every 50 miles driven. Best 50 miles avg so far is 31.8 mpg. The 2.7 4cyl is rated at 23 mpg on the new vehicle window sticker btw. My commute to work is mostly back roads at about 60 mph with a few stop signs and several stoplights. I now have 9,300 mi
@@davidryder5082 Ahh gotcha. Damn good mpg in my opinion How do you like engine ? Any problems. ? Watching videos of it's design..seems pretty robust. Thanks
@@mikeriv60 the milage is incredible. The motor has plenty of power for my needs. Idk about how long term durability will be but hope it will be good. I like my elevation and no problems so far. If you are considering purchasing a 2.7 turbo perhaps contact enterprise rentals about availability for a few days rental. Good luck
When Mercedes owned Chrysler Corp.,they built the 5.7 ltr Hemi N/A with cylinder deactivation and it worked brilliantly, had a 300E AWD with all the options and it would run on 4 cylinders until 109 kph 68 mph and give me almost 200 km 120 miles to a tank of fuel with 4 people in cruise control running the factory 17" wheels. To this day i have seen no other fuel management system more reliable or less complex. i never had a warranty claim or component failure in the whole time i owned it. There maybe better systems out there or more efficient and i will say not the reliability as this one. Built and engineered by Mercedes = reliability. Ford/ Gm still aren't there yet, all too complicated.
Mercedes had literally nothing to do with Chrysler's active cylinder deactivation (MDS). In fact, they didn't have anything to do with the Hemi. They did provide the 5 speed transmission placed behind the engine for many years. They also worked with Chryslers on V6 engines, although Chrysler led that project too.
Very interesting, from this side of the world in 95% of cases the vehicles are powered by a 4-cylinder engine and with less than 2 liters of capacity and 2.7 liters is considered to be a larger engine !! Trucks are all diesels with 4 cylinder and with 2 or 2.2 liter engine capacity, V8 monsters we only see in movies or once a decade on the road !! Welcome to the world of small engines, probably Uncle Sam is preparing much higher taxes for V8 engines with a lot of ccm while they started producing smaller engines but with such a low gas prizes that you have in US I would still want a big ass engine no matter how many cylinders it has.
Exactly. We will be beaten with the tax/subsidy hammer until we buy something we normally would not. When an idea is truly better, you don't need to force people to adopt it.
I hope not. I dont understand why they didnt just use a 4.2 i6 nd adda turbo to it. It wouldve saved money nd it wouldve been great. But instead they paid these dumb ass engineers to redesign junk nd spend extra time testing nd research when the 4.2 had already been through all the research
Sorry but the MPG is not what they say. 14.9 in town; and that keeping your foot out of it and hypermiling. The performance is surprisingly good though. I just sucks to get lied to over and over by Chevy.
So, 5 yrs later this 2.7 twin volute I-4 now referred to as turbomax & producing 430 ft-lb torque (compared to 383 ft-lb torque of 5.3 V-8) has proved so successful, that it is the sole engine in Colorado, & Canyon. Also, a very similar 2.5 liter version has been developed for Traverse, Enclave, & Acadia. Ford has been producing 2.7 ecoboost V-6 twin turbo for nearly 10 yrs. Ram retired their 5.7 V-8 in half ton trucks, replaced by 3.0 I-6 twin turbo hurricane. Seems as though this is the design of the future. 2024 Silverado & Sierra w/ turbomax get a 5 yr/100,000 mile drivetrain warranty compared to 60,000 mile for 5.3 V-8. The engineering of a turbomax (like a duramax diesel) is how small displacement w/ turbo outguns V8. Forged bottom end, spincast nodular iron cylinders, pistons w/ iron carrier cast into them that carry the piston rings, it's a diesel w/ spark plugs that runs on 87 octane - 25% less expensive fuel & no def.
The way you test an engine for real life is forget a few oil changes, put the wrong oil weight in a few times, put some low quality fuel in for 50,000 miles, and never change the coolant.
I just bought a 2021 3 weeks ago already getting serviced and dealer said they don’t know what it is they calling a Chevy engineer to figure it out shit engine breaking down at 750 miles
Using mid grade fuel. With a balance of city and highway driving I average 22mpg. I’m pretty easy on the throttle and breaking so your results may vary.
@Hard working Trucks You Guys need to wait a couple of years before you do all this Bragging ! I forecast this Engine will dissapear in the engine lineup in a couple of years !
You have to be careful not to floor it on a corner. I was turning and tried to beat the yellow signal light. i gave it gas and the truck went sideways a little while doing a little burnout. Scared me.
In my opinion Instead of getting new engine build you should work on a 5.3 L to be more reliable ignition coils should be going out at 30 to 60 thousand miles in my opinion you should go to Japan pick up some skills
I loved my Ford 3.5 eco boost till one of the turbos blew got 21 miles to the gallon bought a 5.3 v8 chevy and now I can see the gas gage move ah I would complain if I was hung with a new rope 😂🤪
Well, they did have the old Vortec 4200, an inline-6 with very similar bore and stroke (93 mm x 102 mm, compared to the 92.25 mm x 102 mm for this engine). I doubt they're gonna reintroduce a family like the Atlas engines with all this fancy tech.