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Chevy's Newest Truck Engine Is Hiding These SECRET Features: Here Are the Details! 

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( www.alltfl.com/) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! In this deep dive, Andre covers the details of the 2.7-liter turbocharged engine powering the 2023 Chevrolet Colorado. Here's what you need to know!
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@ScotDouglas
@ScotDouglas Год назад
Hell yeah! It's Kevin! I've known / worked with Kevin for years on this engine and he is the main driving force to make this one of the best engines out there. He pushes for perfection like nobody I know, is a complete motorhead and available 24/7 for the development teams to contact if needed.
@joseeduardo4327
@joseeduardo4327 Год назад
I have a question for him. What’s his cell Ph number
@AK-IT
@AK-IT Год назад
Big fan of this engine. Happy to know its got passion behind it.
@ianamay
@ianamay Год назад
Hey! I know this guy!
@ScotDouglas
@ScotDouglas Год назад
@@ianamay Hey I know you too!
@AK-IT
@AK-IT Год назад
@@highball7347 Agreed. Direct Injection brings concerns for longevity, 60K-100K miles Im thinking of. Toyota has Direct & Port injection preventing carbon buildup on valves and efficiency. I believe port injection is used on low RPM/low load, and direct injection on high RPM/high load.
@jeffthebean1
@jeffthebean1 Год назад
I may dog Chevy for their interiors in the past, but having the lead, or one of the lead, engineering folks do these kinds of deep dive conversations without any sales style mumbo jumbo. Like, this is really solid stuff and I really would like to see more manufacturers just let the engineering folks talk their heads off like this.
@illinoistiger8694
@illinoistiger8694 Год назад
They knew the journalists and noted their Ike test specifically. The Chevy engineers are clearly watching. Good for them!
@jamesm568
@jamesm568 Год назад
Damn door panel still got that Fisher-Price look though.
@TJY2K
@TJY2K Год назад
@@jamesm568 fisher-price 😂😂😂
@BC08
@BC08 Год назад
The 2.7 turbo 4 engine is junk
@jeffthebean1
@jeffthebean1 Год назад
@@BC08 that’s just like, your opinion man.
@Sidepea
@Sidepea Год назад
The engineers enthusiasm made me watch a 20 minute video of a 4 cylinder engine.
@MrS22222
@MrS22222 Год назад
It's a pretty badass 4 cylinder tbh
@bobwilson758
@bobwilson758 3 месяца назад
Right ! I agree sir --
@brandonkelly4556
@brandonkelly4556 Год назад
Shot out to GM for letting him represent the presentation to TFL this man knows his stuff. I hate when someone doesn’t know the product and they just say whatever.
@cgatito3528
@cgatito3528 Год назад
That would be the marketing people in my experience. You have to talk to the engineers to bypass all the sales BS and get the straight dope.
@fscottgray9784
@fscottgray9784 Год назад
I now have 2 of these 2.7 HO engines in GMC sierra 1/2 ton pickups. Very pleased with how they are performing. These make so much torque down low that they do not have to spin as fast as most 4 cylinder motors. Even at 80 mph they turn under 2000 rpm.
@deadlyblade3k
@deadlyblade3k Год назад
rpm at 80 has nothing to do with engine... its all transmission and gear ratio in the diff.
@donleamon8653
@donleamon8653 Год назад
@@deadlyblade3k- takes torque to run 80 under 2k in a full size truck through the air. That was the OP whole point. Old NA 4 bangers lacked it, hence why you had to rev and depend more on hp. But you stick with your gearbox point dude.
@BabyGators
@BabyGators Год назад
@@deadlyblade3k engine power does play into it if it doesn’t have the power and torque to keep revs low while pushing through the wind at 80 mph
@officialyasir
@officialyasir Год назад
Have they been reliable? Any issues?
@fscottgray9784
@fscottgray9784 Год назад
@@deadlyblade3k Agreed but most small engines turn at a higher rpm to develop the torque and HPO needed.
@northerntoyota7584
@northerntoyota7584 Год назад
Really nice to see an engineer that is passionate about their work. This engine should be very fast in the mid size market
@TFLnow
@TFLnow Год назад
We cannot wait to test it more.
@warpedphreak
@warpedphreak Год назад
1) clearly said "asst engineer" which is a nice way of say "honorary title for video and pr" 2) he spouted talking points fed - he literally studied and learned talking points - clear to anyone in corp world
@reginaldbowls7180
@reginaldbowls7180 Год назад
I just hope it comes in a manual.
@donalddicorcia2433
@donalddicorcia2433 Год назад
He clearly said he was an engineer who is the assistant director of the engine project, not an assistant engineer.
@williamabaker12
@williamabaker12 Год назад
​@@warpedphreak 😂😂 Talk about someone looking for something to be negative about! 🤡🤡
@ScottTooley
@ScottTooley Год назад
I was happy to see that so much thought was put into heating up the cab! That's important, not solely for confront, but safety has well. The faster the cab warms up, the quicker the windows clear.
@WesLovelace
@WesLovelace Год назад
I took a chance on the 2020 engine after seeing Kevin explain the engine components and the partial comparison with a diesel engine.....All the negativity surrounding this new engine was in my estimation completely unfounded and Kevin has been the chief spokesman for almost 4 years now......Allowing the engineer/architect to explain how and why makes a huge difference and after 2+ years my LT Silverado has been a real pleasure to drive from the top down.....Well done!!😎
@BVN-TEXAS
@BVN-TEXAS Месяц назад
When you have 200,000 miles and still the same experience I’ll consider one. I just can’t get behind an engine with that much load and an aluminum block.
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube Год назад
Durability test is one thing but engineers need to run stupidity testing. Going over on oil changes, running it dead cold in -40c weather, wrong oil weights. That's your 99% customer
@wilmarbarrick3194
@wilmarbarrick3194 Год назад
Amen
@andrewsbbq
@andrewsbbq Год назад
Really they cant account for that and is why engine lawsuits get thrown out. There are so many variables that they can't, and shouldn't, need to account for. That's why they have manuals, oil change intervals, oil life monitors, and specified fluids. They aren't responsible if someone pours honey in the engine. It's why GM spends boat loads on having its own 'Dexos' oil specification that oil manufacturers need to meet, and continue to update it.
@TheFlooringInspector82
@TheFlooringInspector82 Год назад
I hear what you're saying, but take this however you want. I own a fleet of silverados with the 2.7. Six of them are 2019 models with well over 100K miles. I like to think that we maintain them fairly well but I can promise that we do not get every oil change done on time and the people I have driving them I already know are not the easiest on the equipment. We have had zero break downs on any of the 2.7 trucks in 4 years aside from one truck that lost the rear end at around 45,000 miles.
@jimm2442
@jimm2442 Год назад
I completely agree, real world test is before releasing it for us to test so that GM, Ford, Etc.can learn at our expense.
@andrewsbbq
@andrewsbbq Год назад
@@jimm2442 they do real world test though lol. They (GM, Ford, BMW, etc) take these trucks all over the globe testing them in extreme conditions. Lol your absence of knowledge doesn't make something true.
@zmotorpro
@zmotorpro Год назад
Thanks Andre for showing us the tear down & cutaway of this engine. It would be good to know exactly what Kevin says is the life of this turbo engine in miles. Also taking into consideration that complete engine cooldown with the engine off is different than running continuously with varied RPM.
@ManuelRodriguez001
@ManuelRodriguez001 Год назад
I bought a Silverado 2.7t HO last year and I couldn’t be happier :) the engine has been great in all conditions. I guess if we’re being picky I think the custom should have radio control buttons in the steering wheel 😂😂😂
@PS-zw4yc
@PS-zw4yc Год назад
How’s the mileage
@tcmits3699
@tcmits3699 Год назад
What's mpg?
@erichoff7511
@erichoff7511 Год назад
Definitely the way to go with “all access” filming. TFL is in the right direction when it comes to complete consumer/interest subscriber investigation with content like this. Andre is perfect.
@terminallygray
@terminallygray 11 месяцев назад
I respectfully DISAGREE.
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 Год назад
I hope they did a better job with the timing chain on this engine than they did with the 3.6 . The engineer describing it as a bicycle chain does not fill me with confidence
@craigquann
@craigquann Год назад
The problem with the chains in the 3.6 isn't the chains themselves. It's the bullshit long oil change intervals. It leaves too much dirt in the oil for too long. It gets between the links of the chain and chews the shit out of them. Want to trade on every 5 years or lease, save money on oil and do what's "recommended" want it to last, change it earlier and often. Oil is still cheaper than an engine
@johnseavey6622
@johnseavey6622 Год назад
I thought it looked quite light duty from my vantage point
@kingdommusic5456
@kingdommusic5456 Год назад
looks nice and sparkly but parts are manufactured thin cheap metal , timing chain looks like a cheap motor cycle chain , timing chain to last any length of lifespan of comparable v8 would be suspect, they want you in the service department for parts $$$ ~ all planned .
@kingdommusic5456
@kingdommusic5456 Год назад
exactly and less metal to take any wear level
@nickking1510
@nickking1510 Год назад
The 2006 cts 2.8 same but smaller than 3.6 chains only last with 5000 km oil changes .My Ford 3.5 eco f150 must have used same engineers or class mates lolol
@MrMountainHawk
@MrMountainHawk Год назад
More of these technical videos please!!!
@brad_neal
@brad_neal 9 месяцев назад
Great video!!! I just purchase the new Canyon Denali, and this video was super informative. I was apprehensive about moving from my previous 5.7 Hemi over to a 4-cylinder, but after driving it for a couple of months and seeing this, I'm feeling much more confident. This ain't your grandpa's 4-banger. Thanks for doing this!
@JoePasqualini
@JoePasqualini Год назад
Wow! I love Kevin's passion for this engine!
@TFLnow
@TFLnow Год назад
It's contagious.
@Bymb2020
@Bymb2020 Год назад
Just left a Chevy dealer in sd and they about 15 of these motors on the ground doing warranty work sounds like a great motor.
@hochhaul
@hochhaul Месяц назад
That's crazy, I just left a Ford dealer in IL and they had 30 F-150's with the 2.7 waiting for a new short blocks because of dropped valves or rubber oil pump belt failures. Great motor.
@semurray1921
@semurray1921 Год назад
I just picked up the GMC Pro with this engine. I was really surprised at how well the engine handles a full size truck. Great video! keep up the great work TFL
@andrewb325
@andrewb325 Год назад
Really great video. I learned so much about this engine. Amazing that a tiny powerplant like this can push a full size truck with authority. Pretty cool seeing the break down.
@TwoHawksHunting
@TwoHawksHunting Год назад
I like the fact that Chevrolet is conducting endurance testing on this engine. All of these parts have to be made well to ensure the durability of this 4 cylinder powerhouse.
@COChevyTrainMan1990
@COChevyTrainMan1990 Год назад
First time I’ve experienced this engine was in a 2020 Chevrolet Silverado LT as a rental. I didn’t expect the turbo engine until after my first drive and was just astounded. So much off the line speed and pep. Great job GENERAL MOTORS and great video Andre and TFL crew. Can’t wait for the testing videos in Colorado.
@guardrail2897
@guardrail2897 Год назад
Not good towing though. The engine struggles towing 5,000lbs
@Drew-C-
@Drew-C- Год назад
@@guardrail2897 Huh? Which engine are you using? the L3b high output? Because there are a TON of videos on youtube of this engine effortlessly towing over 9000lbs up hill from a stop, etc.
@guardrail2897
@guardrail2897 Год назад
@@Drew-C- He has the high output 4 cyl. He said it has over 300hp and 400tq. I don't know the code number of the engine though.
@Drew-C-
@Drew-C- Год назад
@@guardrail2897 That sounds like the same engine, but i cant imagine it struggling. Maybe he need to press the pedal harder because ive heard 0 complaints about towing from this engine.
@guardrail2897
@guardrail2897 Год назад
@@Drew-C- Hes 60 so maybe he's afraid to push the pedal too hard. Lol
@gtileo
@gtileo Год назад
i would have really like to have seen what the intake valves looked like before the heads were cleaned for display. carbon is an issue with DI and would have been nice to see how much built up on their testing, if any did with the engine constantly being at high heat
@levicharles996
@levicharles996 Год назад
Probably very minimal since the engine was run at a very high load continuously
@gtileo
@gtileo Год назад
@@levicharles996 I would think so, but the piston crowns had a bunch of build up on them so it makes me wonder, not bad but there still was a bit
@BC08
@BC08 Год назад
This doesn’t have split port/direct injection? If not there WILL be intake valve deposits.
@jeffthebean1
@jeffthebean1 Год назад
@@BC08 induction service takes care of that. Every dealership carries some kinda induction service kit, usually BG.
@Christdeliverme
@Christdeliverme Год назад
@@jeffthebean1 lol, nah
@mrjack8849
@mrjack8849 Год назад
Nice video! Really appreciate the technical looks of the trucks beyond just the surface gimmicky stuff like fog lights, tow hooks, wheels, etc...
@Suction_
@Suction_ Год назад
friend who works at a chevy dealer said this is the most reliable of the choices for the silverado, next to the diesel.
@BroItsTJ
@BroItsTJ Год назад
I’m very excited about this new truck and engine configuration. I can’t wait to see real world gas mileage in the Colorado!!
@raymondclaghorn781
@raymondclaghorn781 Год назад
From the initial reviews I've seen the new Colorado has worse real world fuel economy than the previous generation and even than the current Silverado with this engine. They added so much weight to the truck that even with the turbo 4 the fuel economy looks not to be so great.
@bryanroof4031
@bryanroof4031 4 месяца назад
2023 Colorado……23-25 mpg general driving……..best was 31…..great motor, like driving a diesel
@ronstanleyhunt1135
@ronstanleyhunt1135 Год назад
ABSOLUTLY A GREAT VIDEO.! I AM AMAZED AT THE INGENUITY THAT WENT INTO THIS DESIGN ENGINE ....BEING AN ENGINE BUILDER ,,,,I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT... !!!
@stephenrussell9518
@stephenrussell9518 Год назад
Nice to see this seeing as I have the HO 2.7 for about 8 months now. I am very satisfied with my truck and its performance and I’ve also got a heavy foot 🛻💨. Glad to see it should last .
@johncarr123
@johncarr123 9 месяцев назад
Have this engine in my 2021 1500. We pulled a 6700 lbs RV for 2000 miles up mountains and it performed like a V8. Tons of torque at low RPM
@Ghidorah00
@Ghidorah00 Год назад
I own the Gen 1 in a 2019 GMC. 60k miles. It’s an unbelievable powertrain. Thank you GM. So far so good!
@mclroy
@mclroy Год назад
Awesome video Andre. The guy explain very well. It is really interesting to see the technology in real. And what a torture test they did on that engine.
@caseyhall9896
@caseyhall9896 Год назад
awesome video. so far, I have been pleasantly surprised by my 2.7 turbo in my 22 silverado
@billsmotrilla6215
@billsmotrilla6215 Год назад
I love it when you do videos into this level of depth on new powerplants. Nice work!
@DH-mf2lv
@DH-mf2lv Год назад
Will be interesting to see how many miles that engine will last. Only time will tell. Thanks for sharing.
@davidmcduffie1398
@davidmcduffie1398 Год назад
Having rebuilt and built performance street and also built drag race engines ( haven't kept count but could guess about 85 to 90 of them ) in my life. I was surprised to see only two bolts instead of four per main bearing jounal cap, especially in an engine for a pickup truck which are used for towing and hauling heavy loads. That was the only thing that I saw that I had a concern about.
@mikespringer9343
@mikespringer9343 Год назад
The multiple piece cams look like they would be weak?
@gregm3381
@gregm3381 Год назад
The mickey mouse timing chain didn't bother you.
@life_of_riley88
@life_of_riley88 Год назад
@@gregm3381 It bothered me! There's a reason real industrial engines use cross bolted mains, and twin gear reversed pattern, gear driven cams. This type of cheesy chain stuff is typical of the big 3 "bean counter" type engineering. Tear down a Detroit, Cummins, International, or even a Mercedes industrial engine, and you'll see many different design philosophies for these components.
@toddgittins5692
@toddgittins5692 Год назад
Electronics will put in the scrap yard 1st, anyhow. It's a GM.
@lb9gta307
@lb9gta307 Год назад
They're really 3 bolt mains. That large aluminum part they never spoke about bolts to the mains and the block.
@calebniederhofer6529
@calebniederhofer6529 3 месяца назад
I am a Ford EB guy, but I might try the Trailboss custom with the 2.7L. I really like this Engineer though. He explains stuff very well.
@derekenz4185
@derekenz4185 Год назад
Nice informative video. I can see why the engine was made more durable considering the turbo AND cylinder deactivation. Hope it lasts long term. Would like to see a similar video regarding the 8 speed transmission.
@jefftrimm7806
@jefftrimm7806 Год назад
Tip of the hat to GM on what looks to be a well engineered strong truck engine, especially for a mid-sized truck. Glad to see our engineers strut their stuff right here in the US of A. Fantastic presentation that’s made me a believer. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@old-corvair-guy
@old-corvair-guy Год назад
Will this be a head gasket eater like the q-4 years back? I remember same test given back then. Will it drop valve seats like the 140( another high heat engine)?
@robbrewsbeer
@robbrewsbeer Год назад
This was a great breakdown and overview of this engine. Now I’m more stoked to receive my Canyon AT4X and the adventures I’ll have in her, and will be nice to get back to pickups I love.
@emilramirez7543
@emilramirez7543 Год назад
Great video watching the 2.7L detailed video. Definitely an engineer with the Seiko SKX.
@jeremylaws7010
@jeremylaws7010 Год назад
I’m excited about the new Colorado, I’ve saved up almost $100,000, hoping that will give me a very high mileage used 2 Wheel Drive work truck model🤞🤞
@brians.1357
@brians.1357 Год назад
$100k should buy the truck and replacement motors as needed 😂.
@Tallnerdyguy
@Tallnerdyguy Год назад
100k for a 2wd work truck? You buying 3?
@jeremylaws7010
@jeremylaws7010 Год назад
@@Tallnerdyguy it was meant to be hyperbole,…… but not by much
@percivalgooglyeyes6178
@percivalgooglyeyes6178 Год назад
I can't wait until you do an Ike Gauntlet with this engine. Make sure you do it at the maximum!
@robertmart7123
@robertmart7123 8 месяцев назад
Very impressive explanation of the workings of this engine by a great engineering genius... Thanks, Kevin
@jmpersic
@jmpersic Год назад
Love this video, love the teardown and the total geekout with the lead engineer. He's great.
@msclecarcrzy
@msclecarcrzy Год назад
Very impressed with this engine! I wasn't too sure about it in the beginning but it has proved itself. There only 1 thing I don't like and that is it has cylinder deactivation. Do away with that and it would be great. No need to shut off cylinders when you only have 4.
@johnclark6751
@johnclark6751 Год назад
I've got 81k miles on my 21 Silverado with the non HO 2.7 I've enjoyed it the 22 months I've owned it. Zero problems so far.
@thomasmcghee2468
@thomasmcghee2468 Год назад
All the naysayers and haters will conveniently skip over or not acknowledge your post
@GRAFHC
@GRAFHC Месяц назад
Excellent video... you can tell he knows his stuff and is very proud of his work. Who knows what these engines will be doing in 10 years, or if they're all timebombs, but it's obvious for a contemporary 4 cylinder this is about as advanced and power as you can get.
@whiskyobsessed953
@whiskyobsessed953 Год назад
Great video and would love to see a similar deep dive video of the 3.0 Duramax!
@danthompson1467
@danthompson1467 Год назад
It’s about time ! I hope and pray they got it right this is needed badly . The first thing that comes to my mind is the day view of the Vega motor anyone else remember them looks kinda like it lol. Man I rebuilt a lot of them . But I’m willing to give this a try . Great video guys 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
@nickking1510
@nickking1510 Год назад
Yes I worked for small town gm dealership for 10 years during that period . Silicone baked into the Vega block bores worked great . We had the defective ones stacked up like cord wood for warranty return
@damiangutierrez9103
@damiangutierrez9103 Год назад
This man is very passionate on showing his work.
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 Год назад
He is the main designer or the lead. He probably a big reason for its success.
@wesco123
@wesco123 Год назад
Fantastic design engineering. Nice work engineers. Helps to break my conventional thinking of naturally wanting to scoff at four bangers. Trick piece right there 👍🏁
@martinpierce501
@martinpierce501 6 месяцев назад
Just purchased a 2023 Colorado ZR2. Watching this video makes me feel warm and fuzzy good inside. And yes, the truck will lay a patch on asphalt from a stop light!
@donaldpetersondc6186
@donaldpetersondc6186 Год назад
That was an amazing interview. I have a new appreciation for these engineers.
@Searching4Reason
@Searching4Reason Год назад
Great video. Not very often you get to see the engine break-down like this.
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 Год назад
I think because it appears to be a very well thought design. This engineer has allot vested in this motor. He is pretty proud of it. GM probably wants to reduce fears of "turbos blowing up". And the negative perceptions that people have about them. That's why he stressed all the engineering make it reliable. Like keeping the coolant running through turbo at idle etc..
@shawnsimmons8268
@shawnsimmons8268 Год назад
Spoke to my dealer today about ordering a 2023 Trailboss. They are expecting their allocations, and ordering to open up in the next week, and I'm first on the list. Cant wait!
@byronorellana6886
@byronorellana6886 Год назад
GM, please add a robust hybridized version of this engine. I think it would be a great option for us who are not ready to go EV yet. Oh, and make it crate engine available. So many possibilities...
@Camelphat21
@Camelphat21 Год назад
Good thing they added cylinder deactivation, now its definitely reliable!
@daveh2612
@daveh2612 Год назад
That’s the key right there
@drnick40
@drnick40 Год назад
Awesome video Andrei! I always wanted to know more about this engine. Apparently it is a really good one. Thank you!
@seasterl
@seasterl 8 месяцев назад
Two questions: Is the same transmission used for each motor package, or does the high-output version use a beefed-up transmission? Secondly, does it tend to overheat when towing in hot weather like in FL?
@kristopherlauro4327
@kristopherlauro4327 Год назад
On a side note, I remember about 10 years ago when Ford introduced a boosted V6 engine into their truck known as the EcoBoost. They got a lot of hate for it. A decade later, I see GM and Chrysler..or Fiat...or Daimler..or cerebras... Or stelantis - whoever they are doing the same thing now.
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 Год назад
I also remember the first Eco's has problems as well. There was a reason for the hate. But they did improve on the design.
@nickking1510
@nickking1510 Год назад
I have a 3.5 eco boost 2011 f150 . Has 380000km on the engine purchased it from a guy who bought it new and changed oil and filter every 5000 km . The 3.5 has never been opened and spray the intake with combustion chamber cleaned couple times per year and clean the throttle body . The F150 runs sound like new with continued 5000-5500 km synthetic oil changes and premium oil filters
@vettle1
@vettle1 Год назад
​@@nickking1510 I'm at 150K miles on my 2012 3.5 eco.... Still going strong also.
@steveam29
@steveam29 Год назад
Love the enthusiasm and knowledge this gentleman has for his craft. True passion.
@terminallygray
@terminallygray 11 месяцев назад
Most of the marketing reps are good at being shills. It's their job. If they couldn't put up a good show, they'd be fired the next day they showed up for work.
@waynewallace2061
@waynewallace2061 Год назад
Are these internals the same throughout the trim lineup? Same for the lower horsepower versions?
@russelldegroff9491
@russelldegroff9491 Год назад
Really cool! That cat really knows his stuff.
@CarsMadeSimple
@CarsMadeSimple Год назад
This was amazing content! Now I know better why the cab and engine heat so quickly from my experience with the 2023 Silverado 2.7. It really does seem like a very durable engine! Great job!
@mattm340
@mattm340 Год назад
I've got an old GMC Yukon with the 5.7L Vortec, it's got 180,000 miles and I love it so much. I'm looking for my next vehicle, and am highly considering the Chevy Colorado ZR2 (maybe Bison). Thank you TFL for your coverage on Chevy and specifically the ZR2. I offroad and I want a truck that's capable from the factory, without paying the premium of a Jeep Gladiator Rubicon.
@markc1263
@markc1263 Год назад
I am looking forward to seeing one of these with 180k on it....if it's still running.
@MrS22222
@MrS22222 Год назад
The ZR2s are really cool, you won't be disappointed. The multimatic spool valve shocks are no joke!
@professor_farnsworth
@professor_farnsworth 6 месяцев назад
I have this engine in the HO configuration on my 23 Colorado. I've only got 3200 miles on it but I'm very happy with the engine thus far.
@garett2892
@garett2892 5 месяцев назад
Me too man it’s a beast.
@user-xo7re6nn5v
@user-xo7re6nn5v 5 месяцев назад
Been a GM V8 guy forever. New 307 in '85, (39 years later, still have it), new 305 in '96, new 5.3 in '01 '06 & '16. Just bought a new '23 w/ the 2.7. Compared to the 5.3, similar payload, towing, a couple mpg better, w/ 12% more torque (383 to 430). Clincher was $6k less. No brainer. Not to mention, no longer have concern of afm / dfm lifter failure.
@hmdwn
@hmdwn 4 месяца назад
GM's afm / dfm lifter failure is a deal breaker for me and even with a Class Action Law Suit against them GM continues to use that bullshit. And by this video they're even using it on a FOUR CYLINDER!😖👎 I considered GM 2.7 until a friend got one... seriously plagued with electrical issues that would put it into a limp type mode and on an interstate. The dealer had it more than he had it. Dealer finally bought it back and he purchased a 2023 Ram PU with the Hemi. I'm now considering Ford F150 and their latest gen 2.7 as it seems to have very good owner reviews.
@ews360
@ews360 2 месяца назад
@@hmdwn 2.7 gm turbomax cylinder deactivation is achieved via camshaft sliding, not via lifters. Ram w/ hemi is underpowered, obsolete, discontinued. Replaced w/ greater horse & torque turbo 3.0 liter straight 6. See the trend here? Humorous to hear the cylinder count debate. 2.7 ford V6 better (w/ 400 ft lbs torque) than 2.7 GM I4 (w/ 430 ft lbs torque). So, then a 5.3 liter engine as a V12 would be superior to a 5.3 V8? Gotta stay consistent.
@stevenhugley4025
@stevenhugley4025 Год назад
Great video TFL! This answered so many questions I’ve had about engineering in general. Also, I’ve always wondered why their 2.7 displacement was 4 cylinders and Ford was 6, and he alluded to it here. Keep up the good work.
@stevefaiello3321
@stevefaiello3321 Год назад
Ford uses twin turbos - one for each bank of cylinders - so they probably get the same impulse on the turbo that this Chevy does with one turbo and 4 larger cylinders.
@wantapgt
@wantapgt Год назад
@@stevefaiello3321 yeah exactly Ford used two smaller turbos that don’t need as much to get them turning so they don’t need as large of exhaust pulses
@jrwstl02
@jrwstl02 Год назад
@@wantapgt Agreed. I would only add that at 2.7 displacement, I’d choose the single turbo design simply because its less complex than twin turbos.
@stevefaiello3321
@stevefaiello3321 Год назад
@@jrwstl02 I agree, but Ford probably looked at their 2.7 V6 as an extension of the larger Ecoboost V6 line. It was probably worth the extra cost and complexity per unit when they could reuse components and engineering time from the other engines in the family. Chevy's next most powerful motors are still V8s, so going for a from-the-ground-up optimized inline 4 made more sense.
@alexs3187
@alexs3187 Год назад
@@jrwstl02 a single bank of cylinders and head is inherently simpler also.
@anit15012
@anit15012 Год назад
still would like to see a heavier chain on Chevy engines. "Looks like a bicycle chain" reminds me of all the timing jobs I've done on Cavaliers, Cobalts, Equinoxes, Veranos, and Acadias for stretched chains and weak tensioners. Then the ruined heads from the ones that snapped.
@chrishensley6745
@chrishensley6745 Год назад
Yep!
@cgatito3528
@cgatito3528 Год назад
I bet he wishes he could take back the bicycle chain statement. lol. He should have said motorcycle chain. That would've been much better.
@petergripping1440
@petergripping1440 Год назад
It's at least a triple maybe quad chain. I have seem much smaller
@NutellaBC
@NutellaBC Год назад
Fantastic video. wish you'd asked about the lack of port fuel injection as Toyota and Ford have learned to combine both DI and port fuel to avoid deposits
@NickGiordano-zu4em
@NickGiordano-zu4em 9 месяцев назад
there is a followup video about that and yes there is a blowy catch system 2 stage and the catch runs back to the case , I thought I would need a catch can but kevin says no its designed to not need it
@jeremyrichey4243
@jeremyrichey4243 Год назад
Great interview! That said I do want to see a updated review on the 2nd gen 2.7L Turbo HO in a Silverado or Sierra. I know they changed it substantially since 2019 where most the old reviews are. I ordered a Silverado 2.7L 4x4 WT recently, but had to go off old reviews of the 1st gen which has a lot lower Torque but better MPG ratings. Very excited about my truck, but it would have been nice to have updated information on the 2022+ updates.
@johnwhitneykokalis9990
@johnwhitneykokalis9990 Год назад
This engine will be perfect in the new GMC Canyon that i just ordered yesterday.
@smolbloccboy3939
@smolbloccboy3939 10 месяцев назад
It’s especially important to stick to the oil change intervals on these things, they eat oil. Only reason I’ve seen these is low oil pressure due to skipped intervals. Other than that 2 rocker issues where it loses a needle bearing and it misfires. That’s 2 out if hundreds or even thousands that get sold at my location.
@Arkeo36
@Arkeo36 Год назад
Every new piece of information I see about this truck makes me want to write it off or write a check. It's a hugely polarizing vehicle to me just in terms of my opinion of it in a way I haven't experienced since I first got into cars years ago. I really can't wait to find out about the real world fuel efficiency and performance. Nissan could get my money tomorrow if they'd drop the 5.6 in the Frontier, but until then I have to go through this anguish with the Colorado haha
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 Год назад
IMO, Nissan should have also used a 4 banger with induction. They will never drop the 5.6 into it. And the only way your going to get decent low end torque and still have decent MPG's is with induction. Or a combination of that and hybrid which is what the next tacoma will be. Nissan will likely rot with their aged design for another decade. GM has been fine turning this 2.7 for over 4 years. I think its a little out of place in the silverado but its likely a perfect match with the Colorado which is over 500 lbs lighter. People average about 20 mpg's with the full size. If your heavy on the petal turbos will suck it up. They are all like that. But I can see this getting 25 mpg's or better on the interstate. Some claim this already on the full size.
@Murman1973..
@Murman1973.. 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video. Have to test drive one of these engines
@bobwilson758
@bobwilson758 3 месяца назад
Very well done video ! Thanks to our engineers and technicians ! Good watch , I learned---
@lewiswatchorn7239
@lewiswatchorn7239 Год назад
I’m a bit disappointed they didn’t add secondary port injection to help with the carbon deposits on the intake valves, especially considering how much they were focused on the three step cams, which only actuate the valves. A catch can is a must add, first thing. Other than that, I haven’t read anything bad about this engine since it came out and it seems even better suited to the Colorados and Canyons. DFM/AFM on their V8s seem to always have lifter failure issues and an oil consumption problem and I haven’t seen or heard of that issue on this engine-perhaps the overhead cams and omission of the lifters is required to get DFM/AFM to work correctly and maybe that’s what GM is working on with their new V8s?? They already have the basis for it in their C8 Z06 Corvette engine.
@ScotDouglas
@ScotDouglas Год назад
There's an oil separator in the back of the head, no need for a catch can. As far as the AFM - this engine uses mechanical actuators mounted on the cam cover to actually slide the sleeved lobe pack to a different lift profile.
@lewiswatchorn7239
@lewiswatchorn7239 Год назад
@@ScotDouglas I was aware of the mechanical cam actuators, which is why I mentioned using DOHC in the V8s as a way to get away from the problems of the lifters. I did not know about the air/oil separator. Has it always been there or did they add that when they did the mods that boosted the power? Does it send the oil back to the oil pan?
@griemakr
@griemakr Год назад
@@lewiswatchorn7239 Yes, oil back to the pan. The 2.7 has had it since the beginning in 2019/18 (Did Cadillac get this engine first?)
@dutch4117
@dutch4117 Год назад
@@griemakr I know they patented it in 2016, not sure which engines got it first.
@NickGiordano-zu4em
@NickGiordano-zu4em 9 месяцев назад
there is a catch 2 stage system in place , follow up video explains it
@heathwirt8919
@heathwirt8919 Год назад
Very impressive design and materials used in this modern turbocharged engine, a no compromise design.
@jeremsgarage
@jeremsgarage Год назад
Great video! thank you! I tow heavy with my 2.7l and was excited to see this video.
@calebniederhofer6529
@calebniederhofer6529 3 месяца назад
Why in the would would you buy a 2.7L if you are going to tow heavy ? It is a great motor, but you should have got Fords 3.5 or a 6.2L or a 3/4 ton really.
@craigquann
@craigquann Год назад
I'm impressed with how much went into this engine.
@jw8578
@jw8578 Год назад
For how many hours is the torture test run? Would be nice for Andre to ask if the test simulates 100k, 200k, etc miles. Oil pump chain driven nice to see. Not the belt drive on the 3.0. Cylinder deactivation on 4 banger. Why?
@Icutmetal
@Icutmetal Год назад
You didn’t watch the video?
@user-xv5bb3vg3z
@user-xv5bb3vg3z 10 месяцев назад
I got almost 25 mpg on a 480 mile trip at 70 ,75 mph. Didn’t feel it running on 2 but it had to for a 5100 truck to get that kind on mileage. The reality is it has to get good gas mileage
@anthonyzhang4918
@anthonyzhang4918 Год назад
Very cool engine design! I'd love a video like this breaking down the 2.3 ecoboost
@chasl3645
@chasl3645 Год назад
Ecoboost, be great to see what we got for our $6,000,000,000...
@vettle1
@vettle1 Год назад
​@@chasl3645 you're confusing Ford for Government Motors...
@chasl3645
@chasl3645 Год назад
@@vettle1 Oh, that's right. Ford borrowed (It wasn't a bailout) almost Six billion dollars. You think they paid it back yet? Always found it interesting how Ford bought up the wrecking yards throughout the country prior to Cash for clunkers. Also interesting how they started shutting down dealers. Prior to the auto crisis. So was it just good luck. Wise business decisions. Or a heads up on the market.
@petemcfeet28
@petemcfeet28 Год назад
Thanks for taking the time for a very thorough look, at least by RU-vid standards, into this new engine. I'm currently running the V6 in my '21 Colorado so I have lots of time yet before deciding to keep my ears open about the longevity of these engines and any common problems they may develop and fixes GM may apply should they arise. I'm very interested in having more power and more efficiency, but I also believe that everything comes at a cost. And I think that may be either dependability/repairs or longevity. I'd be thrilled if this design could prove me wrong. If I'm right, then I'll just drive the wheels off of what I already have. Cheers!
@steveknight9254
@steveknight9254 Год назад
The big thing I’m concerned about is not this engine, I has proven itself as the base engine on the Silverado since 2019. The big issue for me is that 8L90 auto trans in the Canyon/Colorado. GM says the new Colorado/Canyon will get a “greatly improved” Trans for 2023, Time Will tell, I do not have a lot of confidence in GM’s ability to build a reliable trans, This is why their HD trucks have the Allison trans and the new 10 speed was a joint venture with Ford who knows how to build reliable transmissions. Fingers crossed, Time will tell.
@petemcfeet28
@petemcfeet28 Год назад
@@steveknight9254 a lot more torque in these new Colorados from what I understand. Because they were proven reliable @348 lbft, they upping the torque well into the 400's. I'll give it a year or two to sort out any issues. Mine has a lot of mileage left as I'm only putting on about 7000 miles per year. I've barely broken it in.
@juanfo7307
@juanfo7307 Год назад
Awesome video very interesting deep dive into technical details.
@paulbrinker482
@paulbrinker482 Год назад
Andre, did you ask how many miles their test is simulating? He said lifetime but never a mileage estimate…. Also love that because of the dual overhead cam the camshaft can be used for cylinder deactivation vs the lifter design in the v8’s! Hopefully the new v8 uses a 4 cam setup…
@DillonPrecisionFan
@DillonPrecisionFan Год назад
Fantastic video, excellent information! Just imagine if they did all of this with an inline 6 cylinder (around 4.1 liters, to keep the same liters/cylinder ratio)...smooth, no balance shafts and tons of torque!!!!!
@thomasmcghee2468
@thomasmcghee2468 Год назад
My 2.7 is dead smooth at idle
@DillonPrecisionFan
@DillonPrecisionFan Год назад
@@thomasmcghee2468 it does have balance shafts for a reason. Inline 6 cylinders have perfect primary and secondary balance. Don't get me wrong, this GM 2.7 is impressive with torque.
@thomasmcghee2468
@thomasmcghee2468 Год назад
@@DillonPrecisionFan oh trust me I’d opt for the inline six if it were available!
@JohnDoeSmith08
@JohnDoeSmith08 Год назад
Maybe a straight 6 will be there big engine option in a few years.
@mikescaffo4850
@mikescaffo4850 Год назад
Glad to see a video with a person that knows what he's talking about and explain everything like in this video well done
@brucethecurmudgeon8538
@brucethecurmudgeon8538 Год назад
Sounds good, I will wait until the fleet shows thousands of trucks past 300,000 miles with good maintenance.
@smittysmitty481
@smittysmitty481 Год назад
Really cool video! That tiny engine is making a whole lot of power!
@youngblood23rb
@youngblood23rb Год назад
A 2.7L is a large 4 banger decades ago Honda 2.2L's made 220-240hp N/A, curious how much boost this 2.7 is running
@gabevillarreal96
@gabevillarreal96 Год назад
That generally means shorter engine life and higher percentage of catastrophic failures. Especially when engineered and manufactured by an American company.
@smittysmitty481
@smittysmitty481 Год назад
We’ll see I guess….
@gabevillarreal96
@gabevillarreal96 Год назад
@@smittysmitty481 I like to see from afar! Not on my pocketbook but someone else who had the unfortunate thought process that it was a good idea to put a small motor even though it's big for a 4 cylinder it's still a small motor in a huge vehicle! Interested to see. But like I said, I WILL NOT be the guinea pig!
@Icutmetal
@Icutmetal Год назад
@@youngblood23rb Duty cycle, man- apples to oranges.
@jasoncrymes9608
@jasoncrymes9608 Год назад
This engine has really surprised me. When they first came out with it I thought it would be a disaster in terms of reliability but it looks like they over built the $%^* out of it lol. I just wish Andre had asked him where the Transmission engineer was...*crickets* lol. This coming from an customer living through 6L80 hell 😆
@jayjacaty3009
@jayjacaty3009 Год назад
A lot of 6L80 hell can be alleviated by a good tune. The torque converter clutch is deliberately set to slip often, and a lot. They do this to quell the vibration caused from cylinder deactivation. If you tune out AFM and the TCC slip, the 6L80 holds up fairly well.
@Bediasman
@Bediasman Месяц назад
Just picked up my 2024 Silverado 1500 Custom with the 4 Cylinder TurboMax and they now come with the • 5 YEAR / 100,000 MILE* POWERTRAIN LIMITED WARRANTY, ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE & COURTESY TRANSPORTATION. Nice suprise, was not expecting this.
@bradcomis1066
@bradcomis1066 Год назад
This was great! Love this kind of content!
@tanner_ij
@tanner_ij Год назад
Awesome video, great when the engineers can share the thought process that went into the development cycle like this
@TFLnow
@TFLnow Год назад
thank you for watching
@LifeBeginsOnTheWater
@LifeBeginsOnTheWater Год назад
Great content & information. The motor looks & sounds like it’s pretty amazing for it’s size. Thanks for sharing! Billy D
@ppvfd121
@ppvfd121 10 месяцев назад
A very well thought out design. Time will tell how long it will live, but I think it’s safe to say this one is gonna be around for a while.
@timothywillis8883
@timothywillis8883 4 месяца назад
Fantastic video! Thanks! Gonna buy a Colorado this summer!
@NOFBDYBS
@NOFBDYBS Год назад
Tell us abt the Achilles heel, where GM made the oil pump drive, or something in the timing assy that has a service life of 48,000, and requires the cab removed, and the engine torn down to the short block. Every time a MFG introduces a new engine, they reference the "EXTENSIVE REAL WORLD TESTING" prior to distribution, and every time a major flaw is found,,, at the customer's expense.
@johnnightingale2276
@johnnightingale2276 Год назад
The man never said, how many miles a motor has on it
@christianb9565
@christianb9565 10 месяцев назад
I seriously hope GM comes out with an inline 6 version of this engine
@michaelnerychel6727
@michaelnerychel6727 Год назад
My Dad has the original version in his 21 Sierra and loves it. Can't wait to try the updated versions.
@rik999
@rik999 Год назад
Great video. How many hours were on that "worn" engine? Parts looked good, but they can look good even on 200K engines that had regular maintenance. Did they make changes in the PCV system to keep the intake valves from coking up on an engine with GDI? What about fuel efficiency compared with a emissions controlled diesel engine?
@gavindrewry8652
@gavindrewry8652 Год назад
I can tell you I’ve disassembled mine twice, once at 25k and once at 55k and even at 25k mine looked significantly worse than that. But to be fair, I would definitely put myself in the 99 percentile, as I take my truck to the drag strip every week and drive it like I’m on a track the rest of the week.
@nickking1510
@nickking1510 Год назад
I drilled 1/8 hole ahead of throttle body on my gm 2.8 2006 cts and my 2011 F150 3.5 eco boost so I can spray combustion chamber cleaned in to the intake and valves every 3rd oil change followed by some throttle body cleaner . Both run great at 220000 km and 380000km for the f150 . After the quick clean install a screw in the drilled 1/8 hole
@rik999
@rik999 Год назад
@@nickking1510 What brand cleaner do you use?
@nickking1510
@nickking1510 Год назад
@@rik999 Tumbler combustion chamber cleaner ( contains olic acid ammonia and hydrocarbons) . Gm made similar product under the Kleenes name but not sure it’s still available but I read the can ingredients and the Tumbler brand is very close even smells the same . This stuff is great for rebuilding carbs and other metal items before rebuilding
@nickking1510
@nickking1510 Год назад
One word of caution don’t drive hard after doing the chemical clean especially on turbo cars or truck until a few easy runs on highway as you don’t want chunks of carbon colliding with turbos at hi speed
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