As someone who owns the prodigy st (v1) I can understand why they separated the battery cover from the battery. Currently when I take my battery inside to charge, the bottom half of my down tube is exposed to the elements. Although it is a bit less convenient, putting that cover back on after taking out the battery seems like a good thing.
Ride1up is killing it. I have a Revv1 and love it, although it does need a bunch of upgrades IMO to be perfect. This seems perfect for a more traditional bike. Great review!
⚡🤙🏼 *Almost zero maintainance* you say 👀⚡ That front suspension, belt drive, internal gear and matt black finish 🤩 Cleeean 🤙🏼 Nice frame design, an almost step-through. The only thing I don't like is the fenders.
You guys were gushing in the beginning and I started wondering how much they were handing out to RU-vidrs hahaha. Glad you reeled it back in and gave the other half of the story. BTW, I grew up in America and left decades ago. This video is a good example of how the rest of the world is doing things as usual but that are surprising to Americans. That is a very European kind of ebike. You see them everywhere here, especially with the Enviolo IGH. It's just a different vibe here with comfort and low key practicality usually prevailing over sportiness or sheer performance. That's a primary mode of transport for many Europeans so the compromises in design are different than they are for products designed for the US market. Stay real with your reviews guys. I rely on you for a lot of my 'first looks' at different PEV's to decide if I want to dig deeper.
@@richfromtang yeah, we are just trying to sell scooters. That's why I said in this video, I wouldn't recommend this to anyone. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8XCdsR5tVsw.htmlsi=VDaOvRXyJDOWX4dD
@@richfromtang Just out of curiosity, why are you watching their videos and hanging out in the comments? Given your views I can't figure your motivation. Anyway, I'm aware of how these things work and the need of creators to be generous enough in their reviews to keep the units coming to review but honest enough to keep viewers. It's a tough balance. But my motivation for watching their videos and participating in comments is because the value I said they provide in giving a first look at things so I know if I want to take a deeper look at a particular brand, style, or technology. I'll keep watching their videos as long as they still provide that or until I see they are outright misleading people. Possibly overhyping something doesn't count as that for me and is fair play as far as I'm concerned.
Wow, I am starting to really like this bike... I like the large chainring and small back cog.... Should be able te keep up with the 'motor assistance'...
Nice set up but not enough battery capacity. Also, flat black paint is good for off-road, but after you have been hit once riding on road, you want to be seen with bright colors.
I went with the regular chain version v2, as i dont mind shifting and maintenance, i need more gear range for the trail hills and if i want to change gear ratios i can swap the cassette or chain ring, currently going to 41t cassette for more hill climbing abilities, 600 miles so far. I use top gear so much im wearing the cassettes smaller gears, and on large jumps/bumps the motor cuts out thinking im shifting i guess- may need a clutched derailleur. I ride about 10-15% light trails. The fenders and kickstand do make noise off road but to be expected. I added shorter stem with wider bars, office chair dropper post, skinner seat. For half the $ of a turbo vado im happy
I like the battery cover, if a person likes to ride gravel trails. Though the bike has fenders, the cover will protect the battery from getting dinged from gravel and rocks. Also, people who will use this more for trails or light cross country will likely remove or change out the style of fenders, so the cover will be even more important.
Appreciate your review. I'm on the fence between a v1 and v2. Chain vs CVT.. I am buying this as a primarily trail bike - Florida riding - not jumping - but some single track trails and bumps. I purposely have singled these bikes out because they are lighter and mid-drive. I don't like cadence sensors - and want a torque sensor for my off-road adventures - I want to be nimble and in more control. My other bike is a 750w hub step thru - it's setup as an urban warrior - but it's a mess on trails. So this next bike will be my 2nd. Just curious if you think I'm better of going v1 with the chain/traditional components, or if I would really benefit from the v2 improvements and changes which to me seem more like they are commuter geared - I honestly don't even want a rack or fenders - more stuff to break or rattle or fall off. And the 120mm fork on the v1 means more off-road comfort... But I would be lying if I didn't say the newer styling, and the CVT option doesn't peak my interest - for a little more money - it definitely is more bike. Just not something I have done before. I'm an old school roadie turned MTB'er that got old and wants to keep peddling and exploring with the help of the motor! :-)
I think Ride1up makes really good ebikes, esp. for the money; however, it you're 6' and taller and want to ride it like a bike (ergonomically speaking), you'll find them to be too small. The top tubes are too short for tall riders.
You guys are too picky. LOL, just kidding. You guys do a great job. The rear red light not being tied to the brakes is one of the big pet peeves of mine too. It's one of the factors that play into whether I get that particular ebike or not.
The value for money prospect her seems amazing, but like you said, fit and finish leaves a bit to be desired. Personally I've also learned the hard way that if the retailer doesn't have a physical shop where you can get the bike serviced then you're gonna have a bad time if you need electrical service.
I think that I’m going to have to get one of these because it basically has all the features that I like. I’m glad that it has no throttle. Does anyone know if they will have a Black Friday sale or some other upcoming sale this year?
Great review! I am considering purchasing this bike, and this info is helpful. Curious, how does the gearing range of the Gates drive compare to the regular derailleur option? I like much of the belt drive advantages, but gear range is important to me, as well.
Thanks so much for this Prodigy V2 review. I’m considering buying one. Question: How tall are you guys? You think this is still comfy for an average height dude? 5’11? I read the Step Over runs just a tad bit small.
What?! Who told you guys that you guys were being picky? Are they expecting reviewers to say positive things about them products all the time without pointing out what needs to be improved, what the issues are, and what needs to be fixed?! Come on now.. that's not realistic. If you guys were to say positive things about em all the time and people buys them to find out they found issues here and there, then they'd be mad at you. This is nonsense.
Brose is NOT that quiet when it's under a bit of load like when it climbs. I was very disappointed when I bought a Brose-equipped bike to replace an older, Bosche-equipped bike that seemed noisy when climbing. The Brose is just as noisy, if not more so, as the Bosche, when it's under load.
@@freshlycharged Chain. But the noise isn't the chain - it's the motor. And the bike is 2023. It has lots of power (more than I need), but the noise is disappointing. And it has been looked at by the shop and deemed "NTF".
For the specs it has seems decent priced. U don’t see gates belt drive with mid motor and internal gears. Usually u see chain drive hub motor and regular gears with derailer
Half the price of bikes with similar specs and components (90Nm mid-drive motor, Gates carbon belt drive, Enviolo IGH, 4-piston Tektro hydraulic calipers, 100mm air fork, integrated lights, sturdy aluminum fenders, rear rack) is a good deal, and the Brose motor with its final reduction being belt-driven is much quieter than Bafang or Bosch mid-mounted motors. I wish the rear rack was sturdier (25kg or 55lb capacity seems common for commuter bike racks) and the rear taillight was also a brake light. Any word on UL certification?
I'm very close to buyung this bike. I do share your concern with regard to the rear rack. I need to carry a 36lbs bag of dog food. They said 40lbs limit, but I'd like a little bit more magin.
@@xieulong I wonder if this bike can tow a trailer. Though it adds length, it’s easier hauling a heavy bag of pet food or litter in a trailer than on a rack. Though similar commuter and cruiser e-bikes have similarly limited rack capacity, it’s frustrating when many others start at 50lb capacity. Were I to get this bike, I’d equip it with the front rack so I carry my tool and first aid kits up front so and my locks on the rear.
@@chow-chihuang4903 yeah, my plan is to get panniers for the back and rack for the front. I will also mount a flat board for the back to carry the bag of dog food. Some of their other bikes do have 50lbs rating for tge back, but I want mid motor and belt, so the other bikes are not for me.
Electric Bike Report got 36 miles on Turbo assist on their loop and over 60 miles on Tour. They expect over 90 miles on Eco, as they did on the original version.
If flats are harder to fix, I see internal gearing as a downside in that regard. The biggest benefit of mid-drive was its ability to remove rear wheel easily in case of flats.
@@chow-chihuang4903 I just saw a video on how to remove an IGH wheel and it doesn't seem that bad. I'm not sold on the IGH's as of yet but, I like the tech.
It only takes a few extra minutes to change out the rear tube on a wheel with the Enviolo. I would mark the four belt adjustment bolts so it is easier to get proper tension.
Electric Bike Report got about 36 miles on Turbo and over 60 miles on Tour mode on their test loop and expect over 90 miles on Eco, as they got with the original Prodigy.
If the rear rack could actually support 40lbs, I think I can make this my everything bike. Heck take of the rear rack and fender... this thing looks like a mountain bike haha.
A RU-vidr who normally rides eMTBs took off the fenders and rack and rode it like a hardtail on an MTB trail. He said it did decently well for a bike designed to be a commuter. He made quite a number of jumps with it, not something I’d try.
@@chow-chihuang4903 lol yeah, I probably wouldn't try that either. I'm just looking for a daily driver to replace the car. I dont have kids and don't need to haul much cargo. This bike might do it.
I want to reach 28mph the max, easily. Looks too much work to get to that speed. Super small battery pack. 36v 14ah .(very tiny) I’m torn on the hidden gears . It looks much better, but very expensive to fix,replace. No mention on motor power. Only lists 90nm . That is likely only max seeing how difficult it is to maintain 28mph. Looks to be around 350-500watts. I like the idea of it but to me but a hard pass.
This bike isn't for everyone. If you are looking for the most natural cycling experience, this is a great option. If you are looking for a bike that can reach 28 mph with little effort a torque sensor and hub motor are going to be your better option.
It's probably around 250watt nominal and 750watt peak. In line with the other mid motor in this class, though I think the 90nm may be a bit optimistic.
i refuse too but this when can get a E scoote that has a 23ah battery , dual 800w motors , peak power 2400w , 35mph sll for just 800 pounds , bikes are compete rip off people just need too buy from china
Pathetically weak battery and Ah...should be minimum 52v 18Ah..and not to mention that pathetic 500 watts. ...couldn't accelerate to save your own life w that. The only reason it's putting out 90 NM is the low gearing and I doubt it's even close to 90nm
