I’m not a fan of all this interior high gloss black in cars it’s so easy to get scratched even rubbing fingers across it can scratch it, well done both on the review as always 👍🏻
Data & facts: Porsche Panamera Lager air intakes Matrix LED, optional HD Matrix (Standard for Turbo) Length SWB 5,05 m 199“ LWB 5,20 m 205“ 19-21“ wheels Adaptive air suspension standard optional Porsche Active Ride with hydraulic system (8.000 Euro extra), only possible with PHEV optional rear-axle steering 12,6“ instruments 12,3“ infotainment optional passenger screen animal free interior with Race-Tex steering wheel and Pepita seats possible Trunk 495 l or 17,4 cf PHEV 430 l Turbo Hybrid 420 l Panamera (4) 2,9 l V6 BiTurbo 350 hp 5,1 s RWD 4,8 s AWD 4 E-Hybrid 2,9 l V6 470 hp 4,1 s 4S E-Hybrid 2,9 l V6 544 hp 3,7 s GTS 4,0 l V8 500 hp 3,8 s Turbo E-Hybrid 4,0 l V8 680 hp 3,2 s Turbo S E-Hybrid 4,0 l V8 782 hp 2,9 s battery 22 kWh net, 11 kW AC (2 h 40 min), better recuperation Prices entry around 100.000 Euro / dollars With extensive spec: 180.000 (test vehicle in Provence color) Possible: 250.000 Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
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Your reviews were noticeably scarce during Euro 24 (especially German playing matches) but after this wonderful review you are forgiven and I won't be calling my lawyers in the morning.
Nice. Leah is lovely. With her lavender, another flower for her 🥀 Would be nice to see your review on base Macan electric announced a couple of days ago. When are you getting your hands on that?
There a lot to like about PHEV, I think. The downside is that you still need a plug, and more often, than with a BEV, if you want to get as much all-electric driving as possible around the city of B roads.
Awesome review as always, really great point made about fabric seats, the fact that probably no one else in this price range offers this option with this level of comfort along with heating+cooling(even for rear seats) so thanks a lot for pointing that out, this alone makes me put this car at the top of my wishlist. Cheers Thomas!
Very professional presentation, thank you. Nice to see Leah too. My current car is a BMW 8 series V8 grand coupe. I did test drive the Panamera and yes, it’s high quality but more expensive unless you spend £,0000’s more. Best regards
I now wish that I had gone ahead and ordered an ST when I got an allocation in 2022. The only reason I didn't was that the power/memory steering wheel column had become unavailable. I instead bought a Cayenne just to get the power steering wheel column but the Panamera would have been much more enjoyable to drive and much easier to enter for my short wife. I doubt that I would buy a non-ST Panamera due to the high lift-over into the cargo area and I vastly preferred the look of the ST.
Front end on that Panamera looks good. The hybrid option is awesome and should sell well. Love the layout of instrumentation and screens that fit the contour of the dash. I love how Porsche is keeping the cockpit of these cars personal and bustling with flavor. Too many manufacturers have produced minimalistic interiors where everything is done through a touch screen and thus creates an impersonal connection to the driver. Driving a vehicle and trying to touch the touch screen while in motion is difficult and dangerous. I’m sure those manufacturers did not have people driving and touching the touch screen during the research, otherwise they would have realized that this is a bad idea to implement everything through a touchscreen. Porsche has done a nice job of blending basic functionality with latest tech.
Great review Thomas & Lea. Thanks so much & love your style & presentation. This model is wonderful as you would expect - a little concerned about care on the central console. - think they need to dull it down a bit - maybe leather. Great colour - I think I prefer darker - just a personal choice. Bless & look forward to the next one. Badger U.K.
Just for fun I built a Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid for a grand total of $286,565. Has almost every option you could think of, $58,070 in options. That's just crazy!
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I have to disagree with you about the fluidity of Chinese tech companies OS. Huawei's Harmony OS, Xiaomi's Hyper OS or Honor's magic ui are both very smooth to use. You must be living under a rock to say stuff like that, we are not in the 90's anymore @@n1ngnuo
The previous Panamera looked better and more elegant. The oversized headlights in particular. I know they say it's an all new model but it seems like a face lift that cut the previous model harmony.
I also purely despise the silly gear lever position. It's dumb. Keep you silly EV antics to your EVs. Mercedes for example didn't just randomly move their start button to the centre console because they do that on their EVs. I don't even understand the logic behind moving it there. It's stupid. In avoiding to go the Mercedes gear stalk route out of pettiness, they're only now 2nd to the Cybertruck position wise. Appalling.
The plastic switches? Plastic switches are fine at this price now? Any decent car with a 2 step window switch sounds just like that....th does that have to do with "Porsche quality" ?? You can tell it's also pretty thin as well, cuz the thicc and thinner switches have unique sounds to them. Ridiculous glazing.
@@Nickbaldeagle02 I get that - but if I'm paying around $110,000 for the standard Panamera, it's not asking too much for the baseline interior to feel a little more expensive.
Thomas your disappointment the panamera acceleration didn’t make Leah squeal like the new 911 did was hilarious. New acceleration benchmark is required regarding this!
Yes I agree the piano kind for the lower part does provide more pain than pleasure. Plus you need to clean it regularly. Wonder why not having it as the canopy or the seat material which would maintain some continuity in the inside design. Aside this basic comment, what a car. Thank you again for your video.
I like seeing the night view of the cockpit (8:50); please show this on all car reviews! Regarding the passenger screen, I wish they'd let the driver see the passenger screen; it's rather absurd that they think the driver is fine looking at the center infotainment screen but not at the passenger screen. The driver, after all, looks frequently at his/her right-side exterior mirror, sometimes for several seconds if there's something that needs attention on the car's rear side.
Can you share your thoughts on the topic of ride comfort provided by the Active Ride option? My understanding is that it should handle bumps/broken tarmac very well (the wheels would follow the bump/hole, while the cabin stays flat - they call it sky hook). Also the system should reduce head-toss significantly. So maybe this option would be good for our not so perfect riads (as they are in Germany)?
7:15 so in this car your leg stiff just after about an hour drive like in the mercedes? or how far down can you put the front if the seat? will it be parallel to the floor?
Front looks really good. Is this sport design package? Great front lights. However it’s way way too expensive. For 911 it’s acceptable but not panamera. Especially the options. ACC costs like 100% more compared to Mercedes AMG GT 4door. Please show us next time how the assistance systems works in newer Porsches
Curious about ride quality on an uneven surfaces, like within the city. Does it feel superbly comfortable or only slightly better than a car without that system?
Thomas what is your opinion about lack of automatic driving features in Panamera? BMW 5 and Mercedes E ( maybe this is not a direct competition) does have something like automatic line change and furthermore - BMW is testing fully auto driving features in Germany. Does the Porshe looses the competition with other brands or they just want to stick with driver's oriented car ?
Good review, thanks. But what is going on with these crazy prices… it wasn’t that long ago things were a bit more sensible.. I wish car companies wouldn’t just take their customers for granted… I’ll wait until it drops by 50% in a year… :)
Cheers! Ya indeed it is weird, to me it seems that in Northern America, the Macan is always with animal skin, in Germany and UK for example you can get leatherette seats as base and then have to opt for Racetex steering wheel. Why do they make it that complicated and not even an offer for NA market... Panamera even offers next to the shown fabric seats to go base leatherette seats and get the Racetex steering wheel as single option. Then the leatherette seats on the Panamera are not available in UK and Germany - great logic =)
Thomas you have driven the base RWD, the 4, the e-4, and the e-4S. Is the feel of the base just fine or if personally affordable is it worth the extra cost to consider a lease or purchase of the e-hybrid 6 cylinder models? The 8 cylinder models are too expensive. What is your recommendation of the best and wisest of the V6 models?
I thought we were going to get a Leah presenting special edittion at the start Is it cheaper for car companies to offer standard leather interiors. The Pepita interior option is £1242!!!
Fake electic shifting is dumb. But companies are doing whatever they can just to make the convertion from combustion to elelctric/hybrid more appealing to the masses. But it doesn't really make sense. Beautiful car, though. I love the Panamera. I have an A7, which is a direct competitor (a bit cheaoer for sure), so I like bigger sporty luxury cars.
As I explained, it is no fake electric shifting here. The electric motor is behind the gearbox, so the vehicle has to shift in no matter mode it is in.
I saw it yesterday..i didnt like it at all..i didnt see any difference from previous generation..its small..overpriced..i prefer mercedes amg gt 4 door..it looks more aggressive and great car..but this porsche...its like from 2018..by the way great video❤
buy 1 pay 3 . Why doesn't the engine lift up when you open the hood for that price? Then at least some music plays when you lock the car or something so important for driving characteristics
one of my favourite porshe from ever since but with there was a grandturismo update of it as well. Anyone who knows why Porshe cancelled updating the Porshe Grand Turismo?
Hello Thomas, I've always followed your reviews, but I would like to ask when the new BMW M440 (now without the i?) grand coupé, the one to 2025. Thank you.
thanks! The updates are there, yes. I ll try to get them at some point, 4 Series Coupe facelift here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J-fv-bjCqNc.html
I remember how I used to say the Panamera was ugly all those years ago when the 1st generation launched. I wonder if those that thought it was good looking back then have changed their minds as I have.
Like the non-oversized wheel diameter here. Missing the analog rev pin/counter. No need for those screens (in any car), passenger side is a gimmick for 2 minutes... What is up with the all the high gloss piano black panels? Also that one-piece "molded" plastic "touch" panel on center dash is just cheap. Again, not Porsche specific, in all cars. I find it disgusting personally. Loved the review though :)
so base 911 Carrera starting price is higher than base Panamera, and base Panamera is higher than base Cayenne. It gets less expensive as the car gets bigger and vice versa.
