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All the things we don't like about our boat, which create more refit work :-( 

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After our recent video of all the things that make our Rival 38 great for a refit it is time for the flip side. What don't we like? What is creating more work because we don't like the way it is?
Fortunately, we only find one thing that we hate (after all why would you buy and refit a boat with things you hate).
What we do notice is how many of the things that we don't like we have already changed, but there is one large one that we have not touched yet.
Two and a half years ago, when we bought Vida, she was in a very tired and damp condition with all original equipment and fittings (much of it not working). We have removed all the gas, diesel, and paraffin equipment as well as all the plumbing and electrics. We have composting toilets, are installing an electric motor and all electric cooking. We are fitting a huge solar array and probably a wind generator. We have replaced all the windows, removed all the headlining and more. We are replacing all the standing rigging with Dyneema synthetic rigging.
This is the biggest sustainability project of our lives as we prepare for a retirement when we want to cruise the world using zero fossil fuels on a very low budget.
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@loubob21
@loubob21 2 года назад
Sail Life calls his wheelhouse windscreen an X-wing fighter design and he loves it
@SustainableSailing
@SustainableSailing 2 года назад
It is unique 😊 Ours does provide superb protection
@Robinlarsson83
@Robinlarsson83 2 года назад
Good job fixing the things that you didn't like :) Regarding the windows in the wheelhouse, glass most certainly can be curved, it just has to be done when it's tempered, or before it's laminated if it's a non-tempered laminated glass. The reason most older (and many newer ones) boats have segmented windscreens is the good old one, cost :) It's significantly cheaper to make a windscreen with flat tempered glass rather than curved, primarily due to the glass panels being many times more expensive, and the frame gets a bit more expensive as well, just harder to build. Even more so back in the 70-80s without CNC pipebenders and such. I do find it odd that the pillar profiles of the windscreen doesn't connect at all directly to the lower and upper profiles. In my 15 years of working with yacht windows (mainly on the Design and CAD/CAM side), I've honestly never seen that before and I've seen and designed a fairly large number of windscreens in my day :) Should you end up needing new tempered glasses made, and can't get hold of them for a good price in the UK, let me know and I might he able to help you out. I still have a few contacts in the custom glass fabrication world. I'm located in Sweden, but sent a set of insulated tempered glasses for a pilothouse yacht in the UK about a year ago for example :) should be even easier now that Brexit has been cleared up.
@SustainableSailing
@SustainableSailing 2 года назад
Wow. Awesome to get feedback from someone who really knows what they are talking about on wheelhouse windows. I agree that the original cost would have been the decider. Especially as they only made about 6 of these, and I think it was their only model with a fixed screen. For us cost is going to be a big issue too. I assume a subsidiary issue is that a flat rectangular window can be easily replaced anywhere but a curved one can't?
@Robinlarsson83
@Robinlarsson83 2 года назад
@@SustainableSailing you're welcome :) Yeah, for boats that are made in low numbers it even more common to go with flat glass, usually curved glass can only be made in quantities, not necessarily very big quantities but usually more than just a few at least. The company I used to work for (it went under about 1,5 years ago), used to build windshields and other windows for yards like Najad, Malö and many other of the classic Swedish sailboat yards. Najad used to go for windscreen with all flat glass up until the latest generation of boats like the current N395, N440, N505 and the slightly earlier N570. Not sure if they even build any other boats than the N395 these days though :( So, flat segmented windscreens has been used even on fairly high end yachts, and can look pretty nice to, depending on the shape :) Of course, it's always going to be much easier to get hold of a spare glass if it is flat, and can be easier to do the actual swap. Tempered curved glass has only gotten harder to get hold of the last decade or so, unless one can order 100+ glasses or so. Cylindrically curved tempered can be had from 1 piece and up, but hard to find and pretty expensive :/. Yeah, we always had the pillars locked into upper and lower frames in one way or another. Sure, the glass itself is in many ways the main structure of a windscreen, at least if they are fully glued. But it is good to have the metal connection to take most loads, and use the glass mostly for stiffening it up. But, as you say, the whole hardtop has lasted ~50 years on your boat, so can't be completely wrong :) I can't say that I remember hearing about any windscreens we made that actually got broken by waves, and while we did the pillars differently, the frame system looks fairly similar. Even in windscreens where the glass panes are only mounted in rubber profiles, they are still very sturdy. All the broken ones I've seen have been things like dropped booms or other heavy stuff, driving tre boat into a low bridge or key (motorboats that is) or just recently I had I client that got his front glass (curved tempered glass of course) get shattered by a stone when he drove the RIB home on a trailer after having just bought it :) Luckily I had the drawings back from 2013 when we built those windows and could source and mount the new glass :) For most hardtops we've built, we usually built a selfsupported aluminum structure from CNC cut plates, and just mounted custom fitted cabinwindows. Turned out very good, made a few for refits on Hallberg Rassy 42s and similar.
@russgaulke1364
@russgaulke1364 2 года назад
Recently discovered your channel and have been binge watching your previous videos. In an earlier video you said you wanted to have your anchor chain make a turn. I would suggest you do some sort of mockup and test it to see if it works. Chain can be very uncooperative.
@SustainableSailing
@SustainableSailing 2 года назад
Agree. We have decided to put in a straight chute initially as we are not going to build the bunk in the forecabin this year. Then we can see if we need a curve for bed clearance and test it all.
@guy.h
@guy.h 2 года назад
Nicholson 38 has centre cockpit(much deeper than the Rival), offset wheel and curved triplex windscreen (with a wiper). On the Nic38 the frames are more substantial and through bolted The camopy roof is removeable (fits to teh cabin roof for storage) and has a full enclosure The Nic38 is much smaller than the Rival though especially because of the deep cockpit - it's essentially in 2 halves as the aft cabin is access via the cockpit and either side are 2 huge lockers
@SustainableSailing
@SustainableSailing 2 года назад
We have seen a few on RU-vid. Nice boats. Although we do like having the walk through to the aft cabin. I sailed on a Nicholson 26 quite a bit as a teenager with my Aunt and Uncle.
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