I'll offer you a tip since I've been playing craps for 26 years (I'm 51). Use different colored dice and set the dice (left / right) the same color. This allows you to actually see what's happening to each of the dice as you practice your settings and your throws. (eg set a red on the left and a blue on the right). Now you can see when you throw what happened to the red (left) and the blue (right). This helps you determine axis and rotations. You should also monitor your dice throwing with video so you can examine your throw thoroughly. I find sometimes it's better to find a throwing motion that is not only comfortable, but not tiring. There's nothing worse than if you get into a long throwing session and you suddenly tire and you don't throw properly. Last, your feet are the most important piece. I plant one foot and never move that foot my entire throwing session. Moving your feet around, regardless of your throwing motion, will offset what you do in that throwing motion. If you are left handed lock your left foot in place. If you are right handed, lock your right foot in place. The weight should occur on the foot that is locked. Also, if you want to practice a good throw and you are practicing arm swing or hand swing, one of the things I learned over time is to use a wrist strap. Tighten the wrist strap considerably and it will lock your wrist in place. Now you only have to concentrate on method of throwing motion. Once you have that throwing motion down, take off the strap and your wrist muscle memory takes place. Here's my throwing motion (and again, my motion may not work for you but you can practice the philosophy when you create your own natural throwing motion). 1) I'm right handed so I lock my right foot in place. That foot never moves. Weight is placed on that foot during the throw. 2) I rub my fingers on my pants leg, not the table until I feel the heat. As I set the dice, my fingers cool but remain dry. 3) I set the dice to match what scenarios I've practiced and am going after. Regardless, I'm looking for dice consistency with numbers. 4) I manually lock my wrist in place. 5) I manually lock my elbow in place. 6) When I throw the dice, my arm swings like a pendulum, locked at the elbow and the wrist and it is similar in movement to a golfer's putt. Last, and most importantly, you can have off nights where your mechanics just aren't right or you aren't focused. On those nights, leave, practice at home and return the next day instead. Also, you should practice just before you go to the casino to ensure you are in the right mindset. Take care and love the hat, shirts and logo!!
Thank you for taking the time to share all of this information. I have used different colored dice to do what you said but after thousands of throws I have trained my eye to see which dice is what so I don’t do it no more. I agree that your stance is also important and I don’t move from my stance as much as possible. If you’d like to order some apparel for yourself you can check out my online store at www.HCSstore.com
Indeed. Thanks J Dezenzio. Your passion & intricate analysis is spot on. I too have been at it 20 years @ age 58, playing craps across the country & lived LV & Reno 8 of those years. Aside from dice "control" maintaining the mental edge & staying disciplined is key to positive outcome
Don’t know where you been playin the dice at but I been playin since the 80s and I have yet to see a craps table that uses two different colored dice at the same time…
Been soaking up craps content like crazy since I wanted to learn before I went to a casino for the first time. This is one of the best videos I have watched out of hundreds on RU-vid. Thank you very much, will be checking out your other content!
Love your lessons. Followed the 4 4 dice set this past week in Vegas. Threw a 18 in Ellis Island, a 19 in Harrah, and a whopping 24 rolls at Circus Circus (electronic hybrid table). It might of been longer at Circus Circus, but the pit boss stopped my roll for 5 minutes (technical difficulties), and so they said. I 7 out right after. Happy New Year to you and your team. May 2023 bring you happiness and prosperity Thank you
I'm not a believer in influencing or control but I appreciate your passion for it...I enjoy your game n strategy vids....I am glad u say to kno your set to minimize time, It kills me when people just fondle the dice and take forever!! Good stuff....
Excellent class, I was having some trouble with the right die floating above the left. The correction I found that fixed it was to set the middle fingers first then bring on the ring finger. That was major, keeping the dice spinning together . Wow HCS is by far the best advisory channel I've seen. The advice on bouncy tables, I was just out in Vegas and encountered that. Like you said I had to move my impact zone back until they stayed in. I literally bounced the dice off the table 3 times which is really annoying. I dont have a real table at home yet so that advice saved my sessions. I'm using plywood under the felt so it's a harder surface and their isnt as much bounce as Vegas! As always HCS top notch in my book, I'll be buying some Merch soon, thank you!
Seriously..I’ve been a student since last February. I’ve learned more from your videos than anyone’s and there are a lot of great videos out there..thank you So much! I’ll practice with better discipline now.
Watched other dice videos yours are the best by far. Played the qtr lb w/ easy and have been playing for free for three straight days. No money lost of my bank roll. Keep up the great work
Thank you for watching. The Quarter Pounder with EZ is a great strategy glad to hear that it is working well for you. Love the feedback on my strategies. May the dice be nice.
Great advice because i hit the all tall and the all small together with putting the dealers up 2 weeks in a row i put 5 5 5 for me and 1 1 1 for the dealers and won 2 weeks straight and going back the 3rd week
I would love to see a long term multi roll study on whether dice settings really make a difference. It seems to me that it makes you feel like you are influencing the outcome but once they bounce off the wall, it becomes totally random. 😖🎲🎲😖
It help 100% it’s not about not hitting the seven cause we know it’s going to hit but it’s about avoiding the seven for as long as you can while betting smart
Yes that information would be interesting to read. But like with golf. Pitching baseball, or any sport the more you practice and can consistently perform the same actions over again. You can avoid the water Hazzard’s more Or get in the strike zone with prediction. I’ve got a little Over 10,000 practice rolls recorded When I get 100,000 I might be able actually say something with some backbone.
@@DiosPresley split it into two games and shoot for 7s on the come out. Then, you can see how the dice are flying…until a point is established. I’ve shot (and won) off 7s on the come out 6 times in a row. I’ve seen a few rare rollers with 10+ 7s on the come out. Truly amazing sight to behold.
Sucks me and my dad ran into these guys and I got them a good roll. 21. My dad is a way better dice setter then me but kept getting double pitch on the hard way set. Next day he got a 34 then a 40 at the freemont has the hat to prove it. My dad knew them. They were super cool guys in real life as well. Love the content.
Really really appreciate the tips on moving between the sets quickly. I practice speed setting all the time and that's a great nugget.. Now, have to give you some grief about trying to hurt the "don't betters" ... It's kinda BS to try and cost a fellow player money. And most of us don't betters aren't purely rooting against you. Most of play in a way that we make BANK while you're hitting numbers but are protected from the eventual 7. I love a 30 roll as much as anyone, and have a little bit of a safety net. We're all in it together. Some of us just do different math and work out betting strategies to protect our bankroll. It's especially important for those of us (like myself) that are still working on dialing in our dice setting. Hedging allows for live practice. Show the love ... Mahalo!
I agree with both of you .I play the DP more often these days. And when I am the shooter I will line up the back wall inside with say $66 across or maybe just the 5,6 + 8 place bets off. This way I'm showing that I'm in it for the Long Haul with everyone else on the table. More camaraderie the better positive aura. Good luck John and Brian. Kindest regards Dan🎲🎲👍
I've been playing for over 40 years and it never ceases to amaze me when shooters have a 'system' in setting up the die before they throw. It's basically like a baseball hitter and their superstitions. My philosophy is grab 'em & toss 'em! 7 is always the odds on favorite for coming up no matter how you do it, that's just the math probabilities at work!
@@futures.scalper.808 Are you seriously trying to compare throwing a fucking knife to tossing some dice?! Really? Do you know NOTHING about math and probabilities?!! AT ALL?! A fucking year old can be just as hot a 'shooter' as anyone 'setting the dice'. FACT! Each number on each die has a 1 in 6 chance of coming up, no matter HOW you throw it so it bounces off the back wall. When you put two dice in play, you have a 2.7% chance of the die coming up how you "set them". Two Point Seven Percent. FFS.
Im glad to hear another person besides myself carries dices in the car. LOL! Like a pitcher on the mound throwing baseball at a specific target within the strike zone and having different combos to do it, a dice controller needs to do the same. Table position (LS1,LS2,RS1,RS2),dice grip,release and pitch, (LZ)landing zone, speed, and dice setting combos will definitely set you apart from the rest of the shooters. Mahalos for sharing and dig da killa shirt!!! Aloha
Right on Roughtrim. Thanks for liking my video. You are right, you need to be good at all those that you mentioned to be "an all star" dice controller. It takes time and doesn't come overnight.
Up front, I'm new to the game, but I'm astounded that an experienced player cares if people are betting with or against him. Great content don't get me wrong!
Mr. money shot. It was a pleasure meeting you in Vegas at dice con . Would love to roll with you and your crew one of these days, if that is possible . Thank you from George “ Roadhouse” Rojas
Fantastic information. Simply fantastic. Your information/ instructions are some of the most informative I've seen. Interestingly, your video and the suggestions given by Dezenzio makes it 5 stars. Thanks to you both.
Aloha, great video, Seing your SETS, well I'm not a PRO in CRAPS, but I was using (only until today) this dice set it was this front face 4:2, next 2:6 next 3:5 and 5:1 I always bet 6 & 8, but with your advisor and set I can see the light, just kidding, I will use it, HARD WAYS SET I thing it's he best set you can use, Mahalo Brian!
Great video Bryan . Enjoy all your videos very much, and I'm gonna follow you guys to see how it all adds up. Long time craps player, I'm 66 and been to Vegas many times. Also Atlantic City, Australia, Europe , and numerous cruise ships. I can't claim to be a lucky shooter, although I did have a 65 min roll at the old Vegas Club back in the day. Also was at the first one hour roll ever at the Main Street station when a elder Japanese man from Hawaii rolled for an hour and twenty. We can all claim our share of winning and losing trips. Win or lose , no one has more fun than me, but I have to admit to losing more than winning over the years. I have my doubts as to whether we can affect the outcome by setting the dice. Still, if I see you guys at the casino, I hope I can join in with your shoot. The odds at the craps table can be the best bet in the casino and if we can at least nudge them a bit in our favor that might give us a fighting chance in the long run. Good luck.
The most important tip you gave in this video is "Keep it simple stupid" (KISS)......I de-complicate all motions and elements of my throw. Every unnecessary motion adds a variable.......Variables are your enemy.
Still trying to perfect my technique, after a few years I have a nice set up at home to practice with and use casino grade dice, when experimenting with different sets there is certainly a pattern to how the dice behave with each set, that being said i recently tracked and recorded 700 rolls using the same set and it yields 5,6,8,9 being the most frequent numbers and of course the 7 leads the group every time with the 6 and 8 close behind, it is truly amazing.........
Mr. Money Shot, this seems like a major farse. best way to prove, is you have you and your crew on one table, the same number of random friends on another table, do a couple rounds, and see what the out-come of dice thrown was. if you can prove dice setting work in this way, you would be a MASTER! Mr. Master Money Shot, that is!
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters I was watching your video this morning my wife is getting ready for school heard your roosters on the video she said what in the world is that I told her it was your roosters she loved it God bless …. My cat liked it also … Great video brother thank you !!!!!!
I like the bit about feting the dark side players. It annoys me for people to presume on a persons first roll at the table. I’ll wait and see how a player tosses, before I bet. I don’t automatically play the dont. Keep up the good work
Been experimenting with good results 4,6 2v(upside down) facing you .. learned it from Wylfrid Sy’s Feng Shui guide to craps.. I’m thinking about switching to that set permanent because I almost always 7 out on 1,6. With the before mentioned set there is no possible 7 combination showing 1.6 is replaced by 4,6 In general this is a heavy 4,10 set. Love the vid keep it up!
In all my years, Ive only witnessed 1 dice setter that truly seemed to control the results (even then it wasnt a home run). Lots have tried- myself included, but I am finding huge variables in the tables themselves. While I had some luck at the Cromwell getting the dice to die quickly and not bounce too hard..the table at Gold Coast was like a trampoline. Any skill i had was completely negated by the lively table. You also have different size tables, and now even non-felt surfaces....i wont give up...but its a near impossible task.
Haha. Chris. I’ve learned since that video that the Dont players are not there to take your money but are also playing against the house. Everyone has there own strategy. But now if he stacks his chips with a tower to make it hard for me then it’s game on. Lol
Just want to let you know man thank you for putting yourself out there so we can learn how to shoot has took me a long ways up and downs but most up they have been working for I would love to spend time with you guys when you guys come to Kansas City or when there's a big tournament or when you guys near here let me know I want to share with you guys thank you so much man
Wed Dec 28 the orleans arena I was just there at the table with you asian guy rolled for about 45 minutes made us rich and left. Came home and found this video by random crazy
Remember the best you can get with dice setting ( Yes the best) is 3 ways for the 6 &8 and two ways for the seven, ( 3/2) and two ways for the 4,5,9,&10 and two ways for the seven. It is a 50/50 bet a coin flip. The Best odds ( yes the best odds) is when you set the dice from the Don't side. Now the odds are 4/1 and 4/0 in YOUR favor. Less than 2% of dice setters know or use these sets. We love ( yes love) throwing on the Don't side when the table is cold or choppy. Good Luck at the tables!!
Just went on a 30 roll gem night but I couldn't hit the 12 to hit the jackpot , had all numbers cleared with 15 rolls left then hit chips to land on a 5-3. I think the most important thing is clean finger tips, don't slip which makes a chip drag.
I don't know why people get all bent out of shape if someone is setting dice and it takes them 2 seconds, 5 seconds or 10 seconds to set and throw! I've seen random rollers that are superstitious that do things like rub the table three times in a circle with a dice, then tap them four times on the table, then look down the table with a blank stare for about 3 to 5 seconds as they breathe in deep and exhale long, and after all that they close their hand and shake the dice for another 5 seconds and chuck them down the table! So to those who think a dice controller slows the game down, it leads me to ask a few questions: 1) What makes the game slow? Is it the guy who is trying to control the dice and takes maybe eight seconds to set them and throw, or is it a full table with with about 8 to 20 players (precovid) waiting to get paid after each roll? Do you think paying the table gets done in 8 seconds? 2) Whether you believe in dice control or not, why do people only get upset about a guy spending a few seconds setting dice, but not the guy who has the superstitious routine that takes just as long, if not longer? 3) Again, whether or not you think a person is able to control dice or not, why would somebody become upset or disparage a person who might be a hot shooter and is making the table money after setting dice for a few seconds, but is actually not taking as long as the dealers who are taking a few minutes when they pay the whole table? The point is that bboth the shooter and dealers are doing their thing to pay you, which is a good thing people! Are some people's dislike of the "dice controller" concept one that takes precedent over making money at a table? I mean, seriously, get over it! It's just seconds. If you don't have a few seconds each roll, then maybe you shouldn't have gone to the casino that day if you didn't have the time!
ok best grip to use avoid double pitch is fingers on out side squeeze dice togther n throw to hi felt bounce into wall ben at this since 1976 n dont pass is the way to go just bet dp lay odds and baby when table is cold they stay cold only thing is if any plyer hit you natural NO BETS until dice pass had bad run lately lost $460 which is like nothing to me maybe 3 days work doordash but my casino lately i found out they do not like my style of play like don't pass lay odds place point for enough to win each way ...problem will be solved contcing mangent plus alredy got one guy plays at pittsbugh sent my info in SO my suggestion if you bet wrong use all set 5-2 -43 around 6-1 facing 6-1 outside 98% 7 out rare i make point most shooter get results in 5 throws after point established take a count evry player just watching tables no matter what min is 10 15 25 50
Hey, this is Sal and Stephanie from the table you played tonight. Please let us know if you guys hit the tables tomorrow night? Lol even if it’s at a different casino, we will follow you guys. :)
Good Info..! Didn't Know You Could Set The Dice.. To Bad You Couldn't Dice Setting On The Bubble Craps..Lol! I Guess You Only Can Memorize How The Dice Is Set After It Bounces..Lol!
It’s all about avoiding the SEVEN. You have to be awfully good to beat the game when you make high casino advantage bets. So avoid ATS hard ways and horn bets. Just bet Pass Aline and Come with maximum odds.
Many will argue that dice setting has no value. I can understand their hesitation to accept it. My personal opinion, after many hours of practice, if you want to be able to consistently beat the average 5-8 rolls then you have to learn to set dice. This does not mean you will never seven out. But for me, across a hundred rolls, dice setting will beat a pure random rolls nearly every time. Consistently using the same motion and dice set does effect the outcome over time. It has for me anyway.
The casino told me I have to hit the Spikes first and then the dice should hit the table next... Is the casino messing with me? Is that a rule at the casino?
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters I guess they saw me setting the dice 🎲 and kept winning. That's when they said it and after that I started losing. So I left and went home.
Here's what I do I use the hard way and the all 7's and I see how they react to the table...One table back home I use the All 7's because for some reason it rolls anything but 7 lol so for long rolls back home on the casino table near me I use the All 7's but doesn't work that way on all tables .. So just because your not getting the expected out come the set is suppose to make doesn't mean that some good data couldn't be used...If the Harway is avoiding the 7 then go with that one if All 7's are avoiding the 7 then go with that one just remember wherever you gather data from it should be used soeoy for that table .. All tables have a slight different bounce important to see what each table your betting on is doing first before betting lots of money . Truth is most don't know how to properly throw on axis so focus less on getting the perfect throw and more on compiling data for each set to understand for what set works best for what your doing on what table.... All my years shooting I've only found a couple tables that give me enough data with the set I was using in order for me to make a lot of money
Hey Bryan, I really like this video. It's very informative, plus you even brought out something I do when I use the 3V set. I do the same thing--having the V on the bottom, for the same reason. Some people have told me that that the casinos don't mind, but a little preventive medicine to keep the casinos off your back, can go a long way. ☺ Quick question: Do you use a different dice set for different positions at the table? I, myself, use the Hardway dice set for my favorite position, Stick Left 1, but shooting from the end, I use either the 3V set, or what I call the Yo-Yo dice set (6/5-5/6). What is your take on using different dice sets for different position at the table?
waddup HCS love the vids -- what are your thoughts on flying V at the end of the table? I use the flying V, but not sure where on the table is optimal to shoot
just came back from the casino and wanted to implement your information. Today we didn't make money but I now see why I' 7-out in just a few rolls. Damn 6-1 combo keeps killing me. How/Where are the dice supposed to land, if and only when I can stop double pitching? Ideally what's the landing supposed to look like, 3/3 or 4/4 depending on what combo is on top, when it lands on the table? in a perfect world, would you like to see both dice 3/3 or 4/4 up and hitting the table with the opposite numbers? Landing the pairs on the felt all the time? Mahaloz for your time and mana'o
If The Shooter Is Not A Dise Setter & Picks Up The Dice Shake It In His Hands For A Few Seconds Then Toss It, What Should I Put My Bets On? Field Bets, Pass Or Don't Pass Bet Or Number Bets?
I like to roll at around 6 am in the morning because that's usually when the drunkards are gone home and the table is pretty dead. If I cannot get up in time then 10 am is my next time slot. That's when they open a new table and I can easily slide into my spot, stick left. My next time slot would be around 6 pm. Tables are kinda busy but usually everyone is out to dinner. I don't like to shoot after 9 pm because tables get crazy. I like to shoot on the slow days too, Sunday to Thursday.
@@HawaiiCrapsShootersVery detailed answer, thank you for taking the time. I like the very early mornings too but I wasn't sure how the rest of the day went. I’m also not a fan of late evenings, I prefer a less crowded table so that stick right is available.
