4:00. The short answer is. That is the exact frequency a 144 Hz Panel actually runs that. Just like a 60 frame panel will actually have a 59.49 optimal frequency range. It's kind of like g-sync. It's lining the frames up with the display frequency. Which makes it look smoother because you're getting more information per second. And it prevents frame tearing. By which some part of the frame is different from the rest of the display panel. Causing the picture to look split. Which vsync also gets rid of. But increases latency. So if you have the option to run at that slightly lower frequency. You should usually take it. For better fidelity with no latency penalty.
I'm pretty sure it all goes back to color vs black and white analog TV transmission. Black and white TV was 30 fps, but black and white sets couldn't pick up 30 fps color. They could however pick up 29.97 fps color signals and everything since then has been a byproduct of that.
@@florianmetzler5573 I think it'd be too short by itself even for a tech quickie, they could put it together with other marketing standards not being 100% correct though
Monitors go to 143.856 because it's evenly divisible by the standard 23.976 framerate that has been used in movies forever. This means you don't have to use any pulldown which can create artifacts or frame drops although it would be really difficult to notice a duplicated or dropped frame at such a refresh rate.
Also not just that: 1080p 144hz was about the maximum pixel clock/bandwidth that DVI cables could handle. And yes then they called the 144 because of the factor 24.
@@MrFruitPrimate Not quite. US TV was 60hz (30hz interlaced) when it was black and white, but they had to change the refresh rate to fit color in. Stand-Up Maths has a great primer on it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3GJUM6pCpew.html
4:30 - Having a tiny bezel allows for manufacturing tolerances. Getting those tolerances closer and closer to zero starts getting exponentially more expensive. The other option would be to bury the tolerances in screen resolution where you'd get 1430p to 1440p monitors with no interior bottom bezel. Personally, though, I prefer more pixels. I also prefer interior bezels under glass to exterior bezels on top of the glass. They're more seamless and attractive to my eye. Besides, you'd have to get rid of both types to make an edge to edge display.
Good way would be to glue the screen nearest to the edge you can and have support behind it . Or entirely see through on little sticks basically and the main hardware is in a chrome cast sized container somewhere fairly close on the desk . I guess that's not very robust, the 2nd idea.
@@jamescassar5348 yeah it's intolerable if you're looking it up close (like that phone) but for monitors + farther away; meh. Also I'm not into stacking up/putting together multiple displays exactly edge to edge + the AR + VR displays are all coming to stay so at this point I don't really care. My laptop has a really good (but 1080p, but it's enough as 1 screen to me) so the next extra displays I'll be paying for will be AR glasses that work with Linux, Windows and Android (+ iOS etc those niches too if they so wish to lol).
This. It's either a thick exterior bezel to cover up the interior bezel, or keep it the way it is. Many people hate the lip of the monitor. Not to mention, it's 30 lbs. I ordered it anyway because the specs for a non-curved monitor is rare and becoming obsolete due to the popularity of curved ultrawide monitors. Hopefully non-curved ultrawides never go away because I get nauseated from the curved view. I may need to purchase an LG non-curved monitor as a backup and stash it away.
1:25 - wait a second... *pause the video* "Zoom!" "Enhance!" *switches to 1440p fullscreen* That power cable is using AS/NZS 3112 "Type I" (I-for-Indigo) as the mains-end plug! That means that particular unit LMG got was shipped to them from a storage unit intended for Oceania (Aus/NZ/Pacific Islands) sales!
I bought 2 of the FI27 monitors from them and they came with like 4 different power cords for other countries. I think they are all shipped with all of them lol
From an Australian and New Zealand electrician definitely not bias it is the best power connected in the world not as silly big as the UK plug but still as safe
Also to add to this with the OSD software “OSD_sidekick” you can program a keyboard shortcut for the KVM function instead of having to reach around and physically and press the button, just install it on both with the same shortcut programmed. I have this monitor, I hate cable cluter and most cheap kvm’s just do peripheral switching while you’ll still need to change the display source on the monitor. You can spend a LOT of money on one that does both display and peripheral but you never know what that’ll do to your display signal. Best monitor purchase I have ever made!
I use old kvm that have VGA. For video i have PC on DisplayPort and a laptop on HDMI. With auto source it works pefect, if i need both PC and laptop i press win+p on later until it goes to single screen mode, then display automatically switch to PC.
@@yeepmeeep1735 I have a nvidia rtx 2080 super and it works just fine with freesync on this monitor. So no issues there, unless you need the gsync stamp. You'll be hard to find a monitor with KVM built-in and an IPS panel, closet monitor I found was around the £1000 mark. You can find alternatives with a VA panel. But if you're looking for the KVM function then there's some amount of productivity required and VA sucks for staring at text for hours. VA are good for just gaming, great contrast. IPS in my opinion isn't as good for gaming but good enough but great for productivity. Hope that helps
Quick note - if you set your laptop to "Do nothing" when the lid is closed and you have a monitor connected, the resolution and main screen will divert to the main display. This would mean ultrawide display plus I think it's pretty neat :)
Better yet, set "close my lid" to "does nothing" in power settings and... Close the lid. Amazed this isn't common knowledge at LTT, I configure all devices at work with that by group policy.
There's used 27-inch 4K 120hz monitors thar regularly pop up for $300 or less, but an ultrawide with this amount of adjustability is definitely worth it.
2 years living the KVM life and I love it. My work laptop has a thunderbolt but the 400usd thinkpad docking station sometimes just doesn't see peripherals 🤣 so I just use it for display port and KVM switch to switch between PC and laptop :) and it's really solid
@@Jeremy-pf3bb noo in mine it's a simple USB to USB 3.0 connection. The "thinkpad thunderbolt workstation dock gen2" has usbc, hdmi and display port (which I have to use for 144hz screen) but it doesn't support kvm and my PC doesn't have a thunderbolt card...but anyways the dock is buggy and 50% of the times it doesn't recognize my peripherals and I have to jump through 3 thunderbolt ports on the laptop 🤔 so the simple kvm with separate usb3.0 cable is a fair deal to me for 30usd
@@doniscoming but then doesn’t that make the thinkpad docking station useless? Or do you still use it for the dp? I have the same docking station for my laptop so trying to figure out a new setup. Currently I have to have two sets of keyboards/mice for easy input switch
I mean yes , I just press input button on my tv for another input. Same effect if the peripherals don't work through the monitor to the other device anyway. If thunderbolt can be cheaply or freely licensed so everyone can benefit from usb-c's capabilities, we'd all be better off . We can do a 4x pcie gen 3.0 connection over usb-c 3.2 gen 2 and lots of power. no reason to lock it down. Hdmi is just as stupid when open source display port can achieve better or similar results and can be interoperable .
I'm using a software KVM called Barrier. I have 2 screens and I hook up my work laptop to my main window, then use software to move control to my laptop (PC = server, laptop = client). This way I can use my quality mic/headset for voice calls etc, while still retaining full control over my work laptop and no need to plug around stuff or deal with a physical KVM. Added bonus: you can game and work at the same time.
That's neat, definitely going to check it out. But I think you're missing the point here, you have two screens. I get the purpose of the KVM to share mouse and keyboard, but it's not necessary for you to be able to work and game at the same time since you already have two monitors, unlike the example they demonstrated. Also, hardware USB KVM is $20
I've got two of the 27" version of this monitor and I love it. Switching between my work laptop, Gaming PC, and Raspberry Pi is super easy. Don't even need to use the KVM button as, when it is sleeping, it automatically switches to the correct input once that specific device wakes up.
Before you buy this... Keep in mind that Gigabyte is notoriously bad at warranty stuff. I have their previous ultrawide and it blew a capacitor because of a power surge (fine). But gigabyte needed me to pay shipping to them in california ($50 for a box + $200 for shipping). Final cost to repair was half the price of the monitor, and it took almost 5 MONTHS to get back to me. Also pretty sure they just sent me someone elses used monitor. I had a noctua badge sticker on the stand that was missing when I got it back.
I had a similar experience with my M27Q. They wouldn't give me a shipping label to RMA mine and it would've been $100 to ship it out to California so instead I just suffer with my stuck and dead pixels and make sure to remind people online that they are a scummy company.
I'm still using a 10 year old H-IPS 1080p monitor that maxes out to 60 Hz. I can't really find any faults in this monitor like he can. Anything IPS 2K and faster than 60 Hz is going to be a massive upgrade for me.
Yeah, it’s fantastic. I got this one on a whim during the NewEgg Black Friday sale. Insanely good value. I popped a wall mount on it and I couldn’t be happier.
@@ngkindig yeah, same experience. My last monitor was the Dell gaming monitor with G-sync and I noticed no real difference. I’m very happy with the experience.
For ultrawide monitor viewing optimization, buy a flushed monitor mount and you can have it as little as 2 inches from the wall. For me, this helps with the distance. If you are using a monitor stand, or desk mount stand, you could reduce the distance by 4-8 inches. It makes a huge difference so you don't have to sit all the way back in your chair.
so about that weird slight under/overshoot on refresh rates: the processor in the monitor isn't clocked at an even division of 120/144/240 or whatever you set. when the processor goes to make a subclock for the display's refresh rate, it gets as close as it can, but sometimes it doesn't get exact. some manufacturers probably do some firmware tricks to get the refresh rate displayed as a whole number, while others might just have the processor designed to clock at harmonics of the desired refresh rate. tl;dr: the clock of the monitor's processor isn't evenly divisible by your refresh rate, so you get decimals.
In the 2018 earthquake here in Alaska, a TON of the new Dell thin bezel monitors were destroyed. But all the old ones with fatty plastic bezels were fine. Edge case I know, but there’s always a trade off
This monitor is indeed great but I'll note that ideally you want a TB3/TB4 cable to get the KVM properly working. My laptop can also handle the ultrawide but you have to make sure that Windows is extending the deskop and not duplicating it.
I got M32Q(400e), mouse keyboard connected to my display. Whenever i bring my work laptop to home, i can just plug in my laptop and thats it. I dont switch between work and personal use tough as i need to work :D I did not know i needed this, when i bought this monitor, but super useful. Also, my work laptop is 1080p and m32q is 1440p, IT DOES SUPPORT EXTEND THIS DISPLAY and no problem with me, main monitor is 1440p and laptop is 1080p, my first usb-c cable did not work, but i bought a better (USB-C 3.2 Gen 2×2) and voila. calendar on laptop and workstuff on main. Occasionally display setting on laptop goes "show only on this device, and kvm does not register, but switching to extend on laptop fixes this, this is only an issue if you connect the laptop to monitor when monitor is on i guess
I've had this monitor for 6 months now. Bought it as a temporary waiting for the Alienware oled but honestly, it's a good monitor and I need the KVM so I'm keeping it. Plus the software to control it rather than using the osd is handy
@@superkoopatrooper4879 In a normal monitor with a HUB, the USB devices plugged are connected to a single computer. So while you can have multiple video inputs, only one has access to the hub. The KVM allows you to switch the video signal AND share the devices between two (in the case of this monitor) computers.
@@Hito_kun On your normal hub monitor, you need to pull the chunky usb and reconnect it your the second PC. This swaps it over internally and passes it over to the USB-C connection, while not having to disconnect the first PC. AFAIK
I agree with the inner bezels, but I have come to accept that most manufacturers just won't make it truly bezel-less. LG monitors are like this as well. Unless you are using a white background most of the time, then it doesn't bother me much. I have acclimated to its shortcomings. Lol. I ordered the Gigabyte M34WQ 34" Ultrawide Monitor a week ago and it will be arriving today. I purchased it for the specs such as 1440p, 144Hz, 1-2ms response time, and it has more than what I need such as KVM switch.
One thing I’m curious about is backlight quality. I have a different gigabyte display (one of those 1440p 165Hz 27” for ~300 ones you mentioned), and the backlight bleed is…not good, even after a return and replace.
Monitors have weird refresh rates because they are most likely subdividing directly off of the clock frequency and not using the chip for that. A component-grade quartz oscillator vibrates at 32,768hz near-exactly. As the keen-eyed observer will notice, that number is NOT divisible by 144hz. So, you EITHER get 144.35hz refresh, OR you get 143.72hz, depending on how many ticks the monitor waits before the next frame (227 ticks per tock or 228 ticks per tock, respectively). I imagine a cost-cutting feature of many monitors is to just use a hard-coded table of ticks/tock directly coupled to the oscillator to determine refresh rate instead of having a chip provide a variable clock frequency with more accurate sub-divisions. EDIT: Side-note - This is why the NTSC refresh rate for televisions in North America is 29.97hz (1093 ticks per tock) and not exactly 30hz like the digital 1080p30 standard (1092 ticks per tock) and why you'll often see your monitor set to 59.95hz (29.97 x2) in Windows and not the full 60hz, as well.
I still run samsung syncmaster, 1680x1050x60hz on my 1070, connected through digital to analog reduction, because i think it looks better than digital, dont know why.. bought it for 20 dollars and for the price its great..
Not everyone agrees with you, so luckily they make flat and curved ones. I have this monitor and not being curved is one of the reasons I bought this over others.
@@rossharper1983 Sure, and I wouldn't assume that was everyone's choice. It is just what I think/my opinion, to clarify. But yeah, the more choice, the better for everyone.
Personally I prefer curved if it's extremely wide, like 32:9 aspect ratio for the G9. Something that's 21:9 I don't think it completely necessary, all up to preference of what you want
I have a variant of this display. No Linux drivers for the Kvm though the physical button still works it does tend to get confused from time to time. Bottom line is I love this line of displays from Gigabyte
I've had this monitor for months. It is absolutely amazing in all aspects except one. It's not curved. At this size, being curved REALLY does matter for maintaining color consistency at the edges of the monitor, and for reducing glare.
3440x1440 is entirely worth the drop in performance over the standard 2560x1440. With technologies like DLSS, the future is only looking better and better for ultrawide resolutions.
Just be aware that Gigabyte's RMA process is absolute garbage and the warranty is short. If you have issues with the monitor, prepare to ship it back on your own dime (expect it to cost $40-50), wait while they decide to fix it rather than replace it, and you will be out a monitor the entire time. If it's fine the entire time, you're good. But, you will hate life if it breaks.
You can also use Remote Desktop, so your work PC becomes basically a window in your home PC. Works just fine with wired LAN for email, MS Office, simulations, or basically anything that doesn't require color accuracy. Also deals pretty well with a multi-monitor setup, which is hard to live without once you get used to. KVMs get expensive when you need multiple DP 1.4 and may not play nice with gaming mice/keyboard. If you use a single monitor setup, though, this screen fits like a glove.
I love these (I have the 27 inch). The only caveat with the KVM is that the secondary device has to be connected via type-c, so just get a good cable depending what you're gonna plug it into. I can forgive the lack of power delivery because if I want to game with my laptop, I'm gonna be plugged into the wall nevertheless.
With the M32U you can connect the 2nd PC via regular USB. That's how i have it setup, and with an additional Display Port cable. This way it also works in extended mode, not jus duplicate, as shown in the video
If anyone has issue with text being blurry for windows 10 doesn’t correctly determine native resolution. Try to change the frequency higher. I was about to return it and that fixed the problem for me.
I have this monitor and it's mostly great... BUT about a month in I had a line of pixels fail and now Gigabyte wants me to pay out-of-pocket to ship it to California to have it repaired. Ridiculous. QA on monitors these days is absolute trash
I bought my current monitor, an Iiamya 34" Ultrawide with Fast-IPS, 144Hz Freesync at 3440x1440 in November 2020. I paid about the same [a little over £360, which is about USD$475 today]. It is an absolute beast and I'd absolutely recommend it for anyone looking for a similar option. While I know it at least wasn't available in the US back then [not sure now], it's still available in Europe for about the same price. It doesn't have a KVM, but I wasn't looking for one, and the only thing it was lacking [which is the same for this] was a curve, but it was _by far_ the cheapest 1440 ultrawide available to me [every other option was starting at like €800, but they were curved and everything else was similar or better].
Gaming aside, I do this at home now. One of the HDMI inputs on my main display goes to an HDMI switch with my consoles on it. Granted, I don't have a big fancy PC, I'm not at 120/144 Hz. But, work computer, home computer, and my consoles are all on display with the same headphones (Astro A40's, usb goes to a switcher to between the two PC's with a cable I can swap out for the PS4 when needed). MIght not be showy or super polished, but it is 100% functional from the same chair. You can even turn up the volume on my audio interface to get audio from the consoles split out from the HDMI switch to some JBL speakers. Works for me :)
Instead of getting an expensive KVM or a monitor with a built in KVM, I use a docking station for my laptop, with the Video outputs connected to my monitors. Have a USB Switch that has all my peripherals including mic and webcam connected to both my main computer and work computer. So when I have to switch between the two I just have to hit the change source button on my monitors and hit the usb switch. Works flawlessly, USB switch introduces any lag in mice or keyboard inputs so I can still game on my main rig with everything still connected to the usb switch. All those components together are cheaper than a lot of KVM switches out there that tend to have limited resolution outputs and usb inputs.
Literally just picked up the M27Q 2 weeks ago. Fantastic value, and works perfect for switching between my work laptop and my personal machine. Only gripe is no PD over the USBC
It's possible to make it PD if you really need it. You can use one of those cheap phone/laptop usb-c adapters which have usb-a, usb-c charging and hdmi ports. Adapter can be hidden under table when using usb-c extension cord
@@fjk9807 Not exatcly to the monitor. By using "samsung dex adapter" I connect monitor to adapter hdmi port and convert monitor usb-c to usb-a of the adapter. Lastly I connect laptop charger to adapter usb-c charging port. This combines monitor hdmi, usb devices and external power supply into one usb-c cable, it's a messy workaround but it works. Sadly you lose ability ot have 170hz refresh rate of usb-c as using hdmi reduces it to 144hz
@@mrrobot6152 didn't know the KVM would work from USB c to USB a in the adapter to USB c in the laptop, so your basically using 2 USB a for kb mouse on the monitor USB b to USB a on desktop. Power adapter to monitor. HDMI monitor to desktop. Monitor USB c to USB a dex adapter, HDMI monitor to HDMI dex adapter, power adapter to USB c dex adapter and then USB c dex adapter to USB c laptop. Lotte cables but it works, I'm sticking to bluetooth kb mouse that switch through 2 or 3 PCs with 1 click of a button, then changing the input is a second button but it's more clean then all those cables
I kind of smirked at the bezels comments because I'm using the Gigabyte Aorus AD27QD (a monitor they released early 2019) which has the exact same bezels (but the part which says gigabyte is thinner on the new one). That's just Gigabytes thing apparently.
8:13 - There is. The Acer Predator X21. This monitor seems like an OEM with different brands slapped on it, as Svive has one that's almost identical, except is has QDot, 65W PD over Type-C but no KVM.
"you can't set laptop resolution to ultrawide" that's because you're duplicating the display if you set the laptop to extend or display only on display 2 you can modify and change the resolution on each monitor. i thought this was pretty common knowledge
The LG 34GP83A-B 34 Inch 21: 9 UltraGear Curved QHD is the best ultrawide, curved monitor you can get before the Samsung G9. I bought and returned 6 monitors before getting mine. Best monitor I've ever had. I've been using an Asus VG248QE until this one.
1500r curved is beautiful at 34 inches. Flat is a little too wide. My AOC CU34G2X has very similar specs but a VA panel, grabbed it for $370 on black Friday and I'm in love. No dead pixels, 144hs freesync 1ms 21:9 Not sure why this monitor is never mentioned, great performance and again, the curved is perfect.
*"Let's see if we can extend these displays, oh no it won't"* My guy, you didn't even look. "Multiple monitors" was _right there_ if you just scrolled down.
I have the G34WQC monitor. It looks like this is a bit of an upgrade from that. The built-in stand on this looks way better than the one that came with the G34WQC, which is pretty bad. The USB-C and KVM is a nice improvement as well. My G34WQC power supply makes a bit of a whining noise, and the built-in DAC sounds really bad through its built in headphone jack. Other than that it's a solid monitor from my experience. Power delivery over USB-C would have been nice though for a one-cable setup.
You guys are really missing the headline with the built-in KVm. Yes you can find a cheap KBM for as little as $20 on each DMI, but in order to handle high resolution high refresh rate gaming, you’re looking at 150 or more dollars in order to get a KVM that actually works
I got the m27q from Gigabyte the first one with the built in KVM and it comes in handy with my audio interface switching between my MacBook for music and pc for gaming
***I AM DOING THIS IN CAPITALS SO PEOPLE DEFINATELY SEE THIS*** If you have an Nvidia gpu and want a variable refresh rate monitor make sure the screen you buy is AT LEAST g-sync com-patible.. as in it says it in the spec sheet, if it is not there you are likely to run into an isse where your monitor will flicker at certain frame rates. Being freesync DOES NOT automatically mean it is g-sync compatible it only means you can turn the feature on.
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If you set the laptop to be a second screen to your monitor, you should be able to get the full resolution from your ultrawide. Or just disable the laptop screen.
By the way, just a thought here... instead of complaining about extra real estate on your screen, when the Field of View is configurable in most games, how about setting your primary view toward center, and using that side area you complained so much about for your peripheral vision aka seeing things out of the corner of your eye. It actually can help since fast motion is what that part of your vision is best at catching. Just a thought.
Current owner of the G34WQC which is basically like a step down from this, and have been using this monitor for about 6 months and I love it, it is a VA panel but still kicks ass in games and I love the content consumption on it! This will definitely be an upgrade path if I decide I want an IPS display.
4:00 I'm pretty sure it all goes back to color vs black and white analog TV transmission. Black and white TV was 30 fps, but black and white sets couldn't pick up 30 fps color. They could however pick up 29.97 fps color signals and everything since then has been a byproduct of that.
Just ordered gigabytes last gen 1440p 144hz 34in curved ultrawide (GIGABYTE G34WQC A 34"). Cost me 299. There are some crazy deals out there if you look.
I have my two laptops (work, personal) connected to a Dell ultra-wide with a KVM, and then all my peripherals plugged into the monitor. With just a click on the monitor I can switch between my laptops and continue using my keyboard, mouse and headphones. It's amazing!
My viotek gn34c (34" curved monitor) has 100hz freesync, a surprisingly nice samsung VA panel and was $350 shipped off of amazon. I absolutely love it and could never go back! It's actually perfect for work since I can pin 4 separate windows to each corner while I do inventory management, purchase orders, emails, video meetings, etc. Plus, gaming immersion is NUTS.
Bought it after hearing the praise from hardware unboxed and this channel, but had 2 dead pixels after one month of normal usage (2-4 hours of light gaming and media consumption daily), RMA policy needs a minimum of 5 dead pixels, serious QC issues.
I've got the 27" version, which I absolutely adore. Work/ study stuff on my Macbook, GAMING on my Windows desktop, works great! One note, mine does do power delivery over USB-C, but not enough for my Macbook pro, which I still have to connect to wallpower separately.
It's INSANE THAT THIS SCREEN IS ONLY £300 NOW!! Holy ships. It's not the only one either. "X=" are selling one, which also has speakers and RGB built in.
I got a similar 3440x1440p 144hz 34” AOC monitor three years ago for $500. I’m surprised that this is now here as a great value for the same specs with the a built in KVM
Been WFH since 2yrs ago, got myself an Xiaomi 34 curved ultrawide (actually I think similar spec as M34WQ) for ~$350. my work life changed, much easier to do spreadsheet!
8:25 that looked like 'duplicating' the displays rather than 'extending' it.. which explains the external display mirroring the laptop's lower resolution
I bought the M32Q 1440p 170hz monitor for $500 3 months ago and its amazing! Better part is somehow, when I hook my PS4 Pro to it, the 1440p monitor outputs at 2160p through HDMI... I don't get it, but I love it!
