All Unusual NG+ Universes. Starfield 

That’s the point. Theres more than just one universe. Theres more than just one “MAIN STORY”. If you missed that, then you missed the point lol

its a great concept, its just sloppy how they executed it. it becomes tedious doing the same thing again and again hoping you'll run into moments like these and the creativity behind them is wasted when it couldve made the core game better overall. @@YouCareMoreThanMe

@@YouCareMoreThanMeit’s literally the same thing repeating itself with a different intro and slightly different dialogue here and there and you actually fell for it

Vasco stays behind because there always has to be someone at the lodge, and since Noel and Vlad are dead (the two who normally keep things running), it falls to him as the last member of Constellation other than the player. So he can't travel with the player, and could only leave if the player were the one staying behind; in both cases, he can't follow the player any more. I am not sure how you took it as a way of him saying he was staying behind for his own mental health.

@@masondeross he doesn't state himself why he has to stay, its left to interpretation. maybe he's *just* a machine driven by protocol, but given that he recognizes, speaks for and can guess what his dead companions would say and feel and he can understand something as complex as alternate universes himself, assuming that he isnt sentient enough to decide he just needs a break after all his friends have died is imprudent.

See that makes a hell of a lot more sense then NG+ alternate start mods are some of the most popular. I don't know anyone who asked for an endless grind that resets everything. I want to change up my build and playstyle not keep playing the same character with the occasional joke.

Yup, I had small thought like this when videos of NG+ started coming up. Like make 10 well crafted linear tales that converges with you meeting various selves or reality. Heck, replaying the game means you're replaying each variation of the story they had. But your take is simply brilliant. Let the game start every player randomly in one of the 10 different tale, and shuffle the NG+ order differently so that everyone gets a different journey. Imagine the impact it would have had on the games industry.

Had this exact thought last week. So much potential with the multiverse aspect considering how different starts, combinations and NG+'s can be added with updates/cheap DLC's.

It was lazy writing through and through they want us all doing NG+ for only a change in the welcome at the lodge and no differences in the missions with freestar and United colonies is a huge let down

I’m sure we’ll get a mod for that next year

“You didn’t like that”

@@1happboylmaooooo

Trust no one not even yourself

@@Rex-qf7en rip and tear until it’s done

can you romance yourself?

Your the version with a terrible sense of humor

which one?

@@ains2904 You're necroing a 5 month old thread. I don't remember or care very much anymore.

​@@DaveC2729 uhhh.... having a bad day, there, bud? just don't respond, you weirdo. "necroing a thread" lmao Some people are online too much. Go touch some grass.

@@DaveC2729Womp Womp

My favorite Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy quote

I just gave you like (42). Now you know.😂

I love that that's actually answered in the later books

Anyone ever play Starship Titanic? PC game by Douglas Adams, point and click adventure/puzzle mystery kind of like Myst.

That should be the DLC universe is getting worse and worse progressively till things are nightmarish as hell and the only way to stop it is to just not go

I got that message after the first jump tbh, no point repeating things over and over out of boredom til the end of time Actually, do starborn stop aging?

@@Allabignothingwhat

@@ingamingpc1634 the DLC is called "Shattered Space" for a reason.

I was hoping the player would choose to dialogue about wiggling her leaves just so I can see if they had anything else attached to it, but probably not. Bethesda isn't that deep.

or just have you at least chat with the plants a bit longer to really seal in the "going nutty" joke

Have they really just been this lazy?

@@Gerlaffybecause they didn’t make an extra 2 minute scenario to fit a very specific few that care for something so minuscule? The joke was fine don’t need to drag it out to be funny

Because they didn't do anything to make universes ACTUALLY different. Could have been a cool procedurtal feature to make this game great but... No. @@Pugerino

“I would not look him directly in the eye.”

I WORK ALONE

It was probably a variant of him who killed all the members of Constellation at 12:39

Ship attacks you. You board it. Sarah kills everyone. Sarah blames you for their murder. We know. We. Know.

I get the feeling that most of the dialog for Starfield was written by a narcissist. They probably were also behind creating the Universe where all members were them. They probably spend more time romancing themselves instead of doing missions.

Thankfully you can hire some folks in the Viewport bar in New Atlantis and skip all that. Still kind of a shame that Andreja went all stupid for House Va'Ruun in some of the universes.

or the one who killed all of them

don't tell me bethesda has half-assed something in this game

its a loop

It's not half assed, BGS literally needs to measure the fun of having a totally wacky new universe (that most people won't ever see) against fucking over people who just want to play through the game again. They changed constellation so that your main story beats are different, but left everything else alone so you can still play the game more-or-less normally. Not to mention Bethesda might have released Starfield after the Microsoft acquisition, but they were making the game long before the acquisition, so Starfield can hardly be considered a AAA game. Obviously it's not indie, but it's in the middle of indie-to-AAA. Youre just an easily manipulated, terminally online tool repeating angry comments because it makes you feel smart to tear down the game.

​​​​@@ssgoko88 Bethesda fanboys go to any lengths. Have you tried playing any other games? And lmfao Starfield is still a triple A game that should be held to the same standards. Bethesda has been a Triple A game studio for DECADES, it's one of staples.

@@harmlesshawk1794love how someone makes a legitimate argument and your first thought is “ew. Fanboy”

There is a version of the Cora NG+ that if you don't let Sam die in any playthrough you get another dialogue option where she's like "I got the wrong you? Dammit, here just take the artifacts and go"

Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.

Yeah that one upset me too :(

Eh, I assume the DLC will expand upon this idea

I mean isn't it up to the player to choose whether to join the ratrace or not lol

@@NightDany16 technically yeah, you can just chose not to ever finish the main quest, but in that case you just get greeted by...nothing

Jesus fuck why doesn't anyone seem to get the damn point of the story? Its a build up to a choice. More power and loose all you have, or gain nothing and loose nothing. It is a gamble. It is a dilemma. There is no right answer because it hinges entirely on *your* self. How do you feel. Literally every character we see leading up to the choice is a possibility, of what you become. Callous? Settle down? Choose not to go? Its all right there laying out for you. Yet somehow everyone seems completely incapable of making basic connections, would you like a fucking arrow pointing at the point? Im so tired of the endless drabble "there's no point to ng+" "you loose everything in ng+" Yea that's the damn point.

Sadly no. Only the main constellation companions have quest specific remarks.

He does have dialog, if you ask him questions, he will ask you questions as well. But its pretty limited. There is no relationship or quest though. I def wanted to marry myself. There is a lot of dialogue quips while combat and getting each other though that make it a lot of fun, when transferring gear, to yourself. Its the only alt universe that has an effect outside the lodge. I do wish they would have added some reactions in the other quests to your twin.

​@@DuxGaltthat would take narcissism to a new level. Marrying yourself, if they included it.

If you have the perk that gives you parents they treat you like their child and ignore the other you entirely even when he is in the room. It's shortsighted in my opinion.

@@KiloGames I agree. Some of the dialog actually referes to how close you are with your parents and it would be interesting have seen that interaction. Even if small. However the game does have like 130k dialog clips so maybe asking for a dozen more is too much. Honestly I think with a concept like this infinite universe thing, The game felt small and limited.

I think they should have made all the quests line mutually exclusive with an opposing one, such as UC or FC, Crimson or SEC, an a different, opposing arch for Ryujin. Then within these alternate universes mix certain quest conditions based on being different characters. Such as a version of ryujin where Imod was the spy. Or a version of FC where guy is innocent. It would give you more reason to enter another universe. At least to play each faction, and then even playing the same faction might get you a different flavor of the same overall quest.

Unfortunately, this is typical of recent Bethsoft games. Set up a good premise and fumble it. Look at Skyrim. It was supposed to be the end of the world; Alduin did not seem remotely that powerful or frightening. The weather didn't worsen over time, no cities were really destroyed by the dragons (what were they doing, playing spades? Getting pedicures?). Nothing -changed-, no matter where you were in the storyline. They applied that formula to Starfield, only their 'First New IP In Decades'(tm) didn't have any of the background that TES did to cover over and diffuse the oops.

That would mean bethesda would make a good game with deep gameplay, but they can't commit to anything.

​@@wesleybeaverRecent? My guy. This is the first one they've made since fallout 4 everything else has been other studios they publish.

I think dlc should focus on the multiverse stuff and changing the world outside of constellation with each universe.

I even felt quite empty after I entered the first unity and loaded up my old save game after 1hour ng+

@@spitymaeh same here

@@spitymaehThe emptiness I felt seeing my 1.5mill creds, outposts and crap ton of resources disappear far outweighed the excitement I felt when I got the starborn ship and armour.

Nope won’t be touching NG until specific DLC gives better reason to. Poorly thought out story with the main story and borestellation it’s like they’ve encouraged the game to be used by streamers and those with no attention span to rush to NG+ for no reason having to restart outposts and gaining money again is a grind if you skip the fetch quests in NG+ the only advantage is your piloting skill level once you’ve remade enough money you can rebuild your custom ship. The “reward” for NG is a slap in the face too the starborn ship isn’t that great even fully upgraded at NG+6 and the starborn armor maxes out at NG+10 and is worst than a standard 3 set legendary armors with helmet,pack and armor lol not worth the effort to do it to have dragon shouts in space. I just restart with a new build like we all did with Skyrim. Shattered Space DLC better have a damn better storyline to it than the failure that was constellations otherwise can safely call it the flop of the year even with the sales at early access. The warning signs were sadly there with it being exclusively available in gamepass at launch lol

@@ZSA929 NG+10 makes more sense now

same here, I just ng'd or unity'd or whatever last night, had no idea any of these could happen. is the first one always the one where you walk in and everyone says you disappeared until now?

@@11er33.you can get any of these but they’re jokes. You can’t open the inventory apart from a few of these and you’re intended to just die and revert to your last auto save before the Unity.

@@tecnoguy1136 bruh the inventory thing is a bug. It isn't supposed to happen.

@@tecnoguy1136 me when i spread misinformation on the internet:

I would.guess after the meeting the rest of the boring running around for artifacts is the same. I think just a video is good enough for me

It's pretty much just the lodge and companion choices. Everything unrelated to Constellation stays the exact same. So, most of these actually have LESS content then the base game, because you lose companion quests and the like.

​​@@TheZombieMackso you telling me The game tried to pull a no mans sky galaxy reset, and *also managed to fuckup by not reseting but 2 things*?

@@molassesman4066 Exactly. It's No Man's Sky at Home (and released 7 years LATER than No Man's Sky, too)

@@higueraft571 NMS, the game that took 5 YEARS to improve a complete FLOP into something slightly less disappointing. Very fitting comparison. Well done.

@@Kris.G HAVE you actually played it? >into something slightly less disappointing. So what *exactly* sold you on it to begin with in 2016, that you were disappointed by the lack of, which is apparently still lacking today? Do you even LIKE games like NMS to begin with? Or is this like me reviewing LoL, Dota, TF2, or Slay the Spire or such? (games i dont like and have 0 interest in as far as gameplay goes)

I met the version of you where you had 500+ hours in game. You were kind of sickly but seemed happy.

The canon version of Cora in my head is that she only appears to starborns who let Sam die in their original universe, and she IS the same cora that doesnt want to talk with us anymore. She got older, found the unity too and has been jumping universes until she finds the specific same one from her universe.

Cora's dad is dead. The others are versions of him but not him. It's not her universe. I'm guessing we start over Vectera because that's where the story originally began. And most times everyone is at the lodge because we always crash a big meeting they were having about obtaining the artifacts.

i think it is... all a simulation.

@@sjmuhammad19I've been to 6+ universes, and sam died in none of them. In the multiverse, there is both an unlimited amount where he lives, and an unlimited amount where he dies. It makes zero sense to get infinite revenge just because you are unlucky in your universe. Just find a universe where Sam lives, but you died.

The jumps are guided by Unity, you start in Vect because that is where your story started and Unity knows that's where you need to be. The same is true of Walter, Cora, and the other Yous. They end up in the time and place Unity needs then to be ... probably because "You You" are actually special as the Hunter thinks you are since you entering Unity is causing ripples throughout the Multiverse. Because something to consider is that there is an infinity between 2 and 3 but you'll never find a 4, at least until you first entered Unity.

who knows you better than yourself?

Good thing Bethesda is unable to write compelling characters and stories that will stay with you in the first place. Now they've written themselves in a corner.

in these special universes, Bethesda didn't want players to stick around so they disabled saving. If you're on PC, use console command "setinchargen 0 0 0" to re-enable saving, then you can stay there.

If only it impacted anything besides the first entrence to the lodge :(

@@therealjamal5798 wish it did. Like you would have to track down and find the pieces themselves. Have to rebuild Constellation, or find another group to help you out.

@@cyberpawzbut they would need to put effort in for that

The interesting part about being a cultist is you’re not actually a cultist. You follow the religion but you weren’t born of House Va’ruun and are therefore not of the people and not protected by the Great Serpent. Made me really wonder what the point of being a follower of the religion was. They’d probably still try to kill you after an extra dialogue step where you try to argue that you’re a follower of their religion. I haven’t done that NG+ but when you romance Andreja with the Va’ruun trait she still has all of the same dialogue about how when the Great Serpent comes you will die and how that’s hard for her to reconcile, even after she knows you have that trait. The main benefit of the trait is a few times during the main story and the extra benefits from grav jumping.

You mean i CANNOT BRING crew you to meet the constellation yous Suddenly im glad this game runs like shit

"Outside of a few items you supposedly get when you do NG+ are there any other things that change like higher leveled planets or stronger gear?" The named weapons levelscale when crossing, and I think you get different versions of the starborn suit, that's pretty much it I think

Game is still mid though. It has some cool side quests that makes you question why the hell they could not go that hard on the rest of the game and it is so severely bogged down by the miserable amount of loading screens that makes me want to avoid going to space. You know... In a space game. Space exploration in No Man's Sky is more enjoyable because you can fly between planets and jumping between solar systems do not feel like loading screens despite the fact they actually are. I think the pacing of the game would be a lot better if the scope was limited to a lot fewer solar systems or heck, maybe a single solar system. Flesh out the important planets more and not have everything spread out so thin. I didn't expect Skyrim. I just wanted to see Bethesda improving from Fallout 4, and they have not. I got zero hope for the next Fallout and Elder Scrolls.

Well, nobody found this on account of the fact you have to go through the game 33 TIMES.

Just bad luck. I've got the evil Andreja one twice in a row.

It has a 15% chance for 1 of the 10 alternate universes to appear for you I got lucky and got the grown-up Cora universe and the universe with 2 versions of me within 10 Unities

I'm on NG+7, and every universe is the same, but I'm okay with that because this looks stupid af. Just getting myself to +10 then I'm going to do all the side missions and actually play the damn game...

@@WIZSEGAMING 15% chance for any alternate at all (after which it randomly picks from the 10). But that only starts after the 2nd, so you only have 3-7 as potential alternates. So just over 1 in 7 chance, and you've only had 5 rolls of that die. They really should guarantee the 3rd one is an alternate before making it random chance, just so you can see the exist, and then have the future odds increase every time you get the vanilla universe in a row. I would just make it additive, so by the 6th vanilla in a row you have 90% chance and then the 7th is guaranteed since it would be 105%. Otherwise you are going to have many people who get 20-30 or more without ever seeing one, just because streaks are not uncommon in small sets.

@masondeross I'm good, the alternate realities seems stupid af. Just let me get to 10 and then I can actually play the whole game.

Well, you can just marry other universe Sarah 😂 In my first universe, I married Sarah, but she died…then I “married” Andreja to cope. Definite downgrade, so I bounced to 10 universes later and am jaded af like the Hunter

I married Sarah 4 times. Already in different universes

The problem with that is it’s crap design and writing even Sarah if you romance her admits she eventually will go through the unity for she feels the curiousity towards it eventually will get the better of her and the MC. I think honestly the whole NG+ and multiverse wasn’t needed it’s Skyrim dragon shouts in space with no real reward outside of random chance for the alternate intros at the lodge. I’m close to finishing the main story but honestly seeing the fact multiple people have tortured themselves with even bothering to try Ng+ I feel the game would’ve been better without the whole constellation faction and multiverse rubbish thrown in to try to keep players in game till elder scrolls 6 but if this the new quality of writing it’s a warning sign of what is going to be bad with Elder scrolls next instalment. I can’t be the only one who felt the vanguard questline felt more like the main story, constellations felt like just one big massive side quest.

@@radag45tall the side quests felt like they could’ve been expanded on and made into their own game but ironically the main story was the most lacking by far. Literally just run to a planet, collect a rock, fight a super powered being or two, then dip. My favorite is when you get to a temple that’s supposed to be all mystical and no one’s ever heard of it yet you see civilian space craft landing 500 meters away or a building in clear eyeshot 😂

She died in my first universe and I'm struggling to love her again in the 2nd universe.

you can fix it with a console command SetInChargen 0 0 0

15 times? Jesus, get a life, like seriously

Happened to me too! I couldn't save or access inventory or anything. Horrible bug, happened to me a bunch

A bit late but if that's happening to you, you can try to tab out of the game, that will usually open the menu where you can save and load old saves. Worked for me..

I don't play Starfield anymore, but this Bug is fixed.

I will just keep my "real save" on retainer and pretend any NG+ I encounter never actually happened. I want bethesda to release an update to add more closure to a Only OG universe option. Or at least a way to return to your original universe.

Should only be allowed for female on female actions

@@Cam-im8io? Bro what

@@Cam-im8io I’m good I only want sex with men

​@@Cam-im8io Average reader of harem manga be like

i too second this; it would be a possibility in some universe

What!?