Alleged Stalker Unconvincingly Denies Depiction in Frightening Series | Baby Reindeer Case Analysis 

With a Chuckee doll in one hand and a knife in the other ;)

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@@Ann-sj4pt YESSSSS!!!! Kathy Bates aka Annie Wilkes VIBES😨😨😨😨😨😨

He then asked her “ Do u condemn Hamas!”😅

Must be some coping mechanism

Because negative emotions like self doubt, guilt, shame etc. aren't intrinsically all bad. They are a necessary part of being a healthy, good person.

Exactly. It helps you to better yourself.

I think because the more you know, the more you realise you don't know, so you're less confident in your beliefs and ideas because you know nothing is 100% certain and everything is so complex

Ah! The eternal question!

Both their performances were utterly superb. I watched the entire series again almost as soon as I finished it.

She’s amazing and gorgeous. I hope she gets even more success!

Me too. Martha was pathos/rage/vulnerability/grandiosity while Fiona lacked the vulnerability and pathos elements.

Totally. She comes across as a very bitter and a liar. Proof is there.

@@jillruben8924Did you know that Richard gave interviews before Baby Reindeer was released and stated that, the part about Martha/Fiona going to prison was fictional. It’s unfortunate that Netflix stated it was a true story and didn’t say, ‘based on’ a true story. Because now, Fiona has a right to sue. No one has found the evidence that she went to prison because it doesn’t exist. I can see Fiona becoming very rich from damages.

I hope she does, I think the guy is bluffing on the drama and just slandered her in short form streaming series form ​@@dreamcatcher3861

@@dreamcatcher3861 people seem really hung up on the "Netflix says it's a true story" part. But Netflix also labels it as a "black comedy drama-thriller" and not a "documentary". Furthermore, while the main character is based on Gadd himself, he uses a fictional name for the character. I think that they would have grounds to argue that people should be able to reasonably deduce from context that the story is not fully a true story and has been dramatized. What Gadd would likely end up having to prove was true was that Harvey had sent an obscene amount of emails and voicemails or otherwise stalked and harassed him. If he can prove that, I don't see it going very well for her.

There was a baby reindeer not on Netflix before this, it was some type of play or something first I think? She’s seeen that but claims to not have seen the current one

@@trussell7488 right! The fact she says to be considering it and hasn’t even watched it

@@trussell7488 yet knows so much about it

I don't believe for one minute she hasn't seen it and that doesn't even tally up to me. So you're going to sue someone for a programme you haven't watched and people have just told you about? That's BS.

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I don’t think many people are that sympathetic to her…just look at these comments and the ones on the video.

If she was pretty and with a hot body I'd bet people would be way more sympathetic towards her

Females wouldn't encourage the stalking the way the Donny character did. I know my "spidy sense" would be activated immediately.

Most people don't seem to be sympathetic towards her. She was getting unaliving threats, that doesn't sound sympathetic.

For sure. There's research on this bias favoring women in the justice system. I'd say the perception is justifiable in part, though. Men are on average physically stronger than women, so a male stalker of a female victim intuitively presents more of a physical danger than a female stalker of a male victim. However, this is talking about averages. And still, the psychological effects of stalking are grave, no matter the sexes of the people involved.

I agree. But apparently the rapist is a sort of well-known person.

Hardly be a rape case when u keep going back for more

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I think he was the real villain of the story.

A combination of that guy's power and what you said​@@user-ig6xi8tv6k

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She strikes me as the covert narcissist type

Or they’re just a humor-centric person. She’s a delusional narcissist yes, but not all people that joke a lot are narcissists

That's what my abusive ex used to say ,I was just playing or it was a joke .

My ex. as well. I feel like I have a Degree in Narcissistiism that I didn't ask for.

I think you’re absolutely right

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True but he seemed to feel sorry for her at first but yeah she helped him feel better about himself

You'd feel a lot less sad if one of these stalkers came after you.

i wonder which of the four women commenting here are so lonely they are ready to be stalked! seemingly they are talking about their own experience.

Absolutely! I was blown away by Jessica dubbing’s performance

No kidding.

Richard Gadd chose the actress apparently.

emmy oscar everything lol

Evidently the guy who plays Donny is the real life man, Richard? Very interesting and unusual.

& the actress who portrayed her.... & Piers Morgan. Uh oh, he gave her a glass of water! Any doubts I had about her character before, after that interview, phew... no doubt now.

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1st thing I said when I watched the interview. She knows way too much about a person she barely knew.

My mother is a Martha and she is deadly. She makes people feel sorry for her and then when they say no she becomes abusive to the point where she will attack and seek out in vengeance to destroy a person's life. She finds it enjoyable. You can't feel sorry for people like my mother because she will destroy your life. She would be nice and sweet to new people and try to emasculate my dad and I. He dies mysteriously. She wishes me and my sister harm. There is no stopping her. My father suddenly had his face smashed. She said he keeps falling. Then I found out he was deceased and I wasn't notified. She had my groomer there at his funeral but not her children and grandchildren. They are still useful to her. She talks about betrayal but is best friends with a child groomer and his mother. It's been 2 years and she won't place a grave marker for her husband. She knows exactly what she is doing and she still hasn't forgiven children from when she was in elementary school. My dad wanted to be with her. So that was his choice. She thought I was dead for 10 years and never checked it out to see if it was true. She is a pathological lier and has antisocial personality disorder. Oh she has people do her stalking for her. This means she knows exactly what she is doing. I left and got married at age 21. She hates me for starting a family and buying a house. She has to be in control and when I left she couldn't have that control. I left everything behind. I just wanted out. I live far away and since then I've been very happy. I tried to reconnect with her and she was even more destructive. She can't forgive. She was never a mother. She had me so she could get attention and make friends. I was nothing more than a prop. She told me she had me so I would take care of her and she is controlling. I didn't invite my family to my wedding because they would have destroyed it. My in-laws are pleasant. I got to actually enjoy the holidays. She would always destroy a family event or the holidays. When I was a teen I would come home to baseball bats in the wall, blood, broken furniture and food stuck to the walls. She sits at home and is on the computer stalking people or drives onto private property and damages it. She has never matured. I used to feel sorry for her and gave her chances to change and she is vicious because she like it. It brings her much pleasure.

5/14/24 I’m sure she now knows just as much about Piers (watch out)!

Classic narc behaviour. They throw out these “I’ll wow them” facts about how unique they are and how you should be mesmerised by their genius. If she really wanted to impress she could have used the update medical term ‘eidetic memory’ 😂😂😂 they all think they’re Sheldon like geniuses, this is known as the Dunning-kreugar effect’… not sure of the spelling there but it’s an absolute mind feck to research!

I loved that part! She really doesn't get how she shot her own story down at that point. To be honest, she should never have gone on TV because she has made it all the more believable that Richard Gadd would have found her believable at first, because that's how she came across initially, then the crack very slowly revealed themselves the more she spoke

what gave it away for me was when she slips ad hominem to Richard as she narrates what happens LMAO

Yes unlogical

Ahhhhh good catch!

I mean Darien didn't leave evidence of his crimes in public spaces........

True, it seems like he was even worse.

@@onebourbononescotchhe was worse. He is a rapist

that the way with the rich and powerful,its look quite likely to be a very well know person, Who we dont know and any proof could be Doctored

@@joygallavan6790 There have been false allegations made towards someone in the UK, and it has caused quite a stir. A well known TV presenter/author says that people in the industry know who the real Darrien is.

Don't wait for him to diagnose anyone in the video though because he won't be doing that 🌝

I felt that this was a fairly weak analysis of the case. He spent the majority of the video recapping the story and only at the 12 and a half minute mark posed a question of some psychological depth asking "Why was she being deceptive?" He then gave some vague answer of how we feel pity for her and ended it with some hackey line about being "wild like reindeer but helpless like a baby", oh boy. There are so many more interesting psychological avenues to discuss here, this one could have used a few rewrites. Dr. Grande's videos are usually above average in quality and depth but this analysis was disappointing.

@@nloc1929 Couldn't agree more! There was so much more to discuss. Disappointing indeed.

He probably doesn’t want to be sued by Martha.

Maybe a more in depth analysis will come after the whole real life drama has played out and there are more facts. All folk can really do is speculate right now.

She's chronic and there's nothing anyone can do to stop her.

@@KimberlyLetsGo agree, I worked as an RN for 40 years in mental health. Personality disordered people like Fiona are impossible to cure unless they gain some insight and ask for help. They are rarely hospitalized unless they are a danger to themselves or others.

Agree, she shouldn't have been allowed to expose herself like that. 😏

Not everything can be "helped". You have to have some self awareness for that.

Yep she does

On the contrary; I believe it is well-documented that many people identified her before because of her X posts and other social media posts were quoted verbatim in Baby Reindeer. One journalist said it took all of 10 seconds to find her on social media. I don't believe she was left with much choice but to come forward as hr identity had become common knowledge and was, in turn, attracting threats.

I thought it was an exvellent scene because he finally understands how Martha felt that day. When you are down, kindness from a total stranger is profound

In dramatic terms, it was a device called “closing the circle”.

she was never sentenced to prison or charged with anything tho in real life

She never went to prison, just another reason why people should take this drama with a pinch of salt. All Gadd needed was a little bit of truth to expand on to write a story to sell to Netflix. People are buying this story hook, line and sinker. All it takes is the tiniest bit of truth and people will believe it's all true. It isn't

If this lady is to be believed she has no criminal record & this part of the story was all script license. Like most TV is was BASED on a true story not a sworn in accurate depiction of events.

@@oliverxhmll And you know that how, because she said so?

@@rosierose5996 There is a difference here, this series a true story, in difference to BASED on a true story which gives you more artistic freedom.

Watch Deception Detective

@@crizzy8373 or The Behavior Panel

EXACTLY. Richard took me on a journey through my own traumas and how confusing it all can be. Indeed, nothing is quite black and white, and nothing exists in a vacuum. I can still feel my tears building up when I think about it.

I was horrified and couldn't turn it off, I agree he is a good story teller.

I has a stalker years ago and even though it was triggering at times, the story was so layered and mesmerising I couldn’t stop watching 😅

I can totally relate to your comment.

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Wow so right . Even when we (you \me) meet someone for the first time we don’t show them the FULL real us , if that makes sense.

I wish I had found this wisdom 25 years ago. I would at least have practice with gray rocking by now.

@@BobbiGail I too wish I had learned this 25 years ago (literally in 1999.)

Sounds like you got lucky 😢 i would have assumed that wouldn't work.

@@helenhellsbells3170 It was a very delicate maneuvering, but completely effective. It took patience. Both kindness and anger drew her in like a magnet, only total indifferent polite neutrality allowed the stalking energy to dissolve

Yes! Completely vacant expression.

Right? I noticed that right away.

she said she didnt watch it but she might've read about the episodes

How do you know for sure which Facebook is hers with all the copycats and trolls out there?

@@TalkingToTheBirds If the account was made before April 2024, chances are it's fake. If the only posts and photos from that profile are from April 2024 and onwards, it's probably fake. There are a few profiles she has made that have posts from 2014 - 2016 which are obviously real. It's not that difficult to discern between a fake and a real profile

In sorry but is the contention that she sexually assaulted and stalked him or that she watched the show?

She is a pathological lier.. she needs help not to be crucified...

BiG GirrlllL doesn't like the way that she's depicted YET she's never seen the series...🤔

Exactly! She’s already gotten into trouble for stalking and harassing a London Politician, and a few Attorneys and their families prior to ever meeting Gadd!

@@christinebuckingham8369 😳 How does she ever find the time to eat while stalking NoNsToP? She ain't missing meals. 😳🤭

You are absolutely correct.

I just think that Richard Gadd seems a bit narcissistic. Yeah 'Martha' is a psychotic stalker.

The stalker outed herself whereas the rapist didn't. The rapist character MIGHT have been entirely made up - the trans character and many other elements of the show were completely fictional.

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I agree! Sorry you had to go through that. I went through a similar situation myself. They turn the victim into the perpetrator.

@cyndeewenzel6439 thanks yes ,I don't trust easily now.....I take my time getting to know People,I'm a magnet for these types unfortunately

Also Gadd has learned that the best way to protect himself and the public is to de-escalate interaction with her. Although making the Netflix show is a huge provocation to Martha , Gadd knows that she thrives on this type of conflict and perception management

While I agree with your statements, I thought to myself while watching the show that I wish he would have had another actor portray his role. I understand the purpose for him to be in it as it's his story and he's an actor however, I felt, as a viewer, he was too close to making it exploitive. Yet, that probably was exactly the 'feels' that he wanted to produce.

@andrewrasmussen True, I can't deny the possibility that Gadd made the show knowing it would out Martha completely. I also have a fourth theory which could be both Netflix and Richard Gadd didn't realise how massive the show would become. I know Netflix is a HUGE platform but nobody knows how well a new show might do until it actually airs. I think the only people who possibly knew about 'Baby Reindeer' and Gadd's story prior to the show were avid UK comedy fans (and possibly Fiona). It's possible Netflix took on the venture because they felt Gadd's story needed to be told as truthfully as possible (even if it ran the risk of Fiona emerging). So many shows on Netflix have become "surprise hits".

@KimberlyLetsGo It's definitely a grey area which is probably why it's sparking so much debate. As exploitative as it could seem (for both those involved and the viewers) I do commend Gadd for re-living the events because he is the true victim and his level of self-awareness shows he knew it was exploitative on some level. Regardless, it is by far the most accurate portrayal of trauma I've ever seen televised.

Richard Gadd keeps telling, practically begging, people to stop! And they will not. The more things change, the more they stay the same, it seems.

I don't buy that explanation- in this case, at least. All of Donny's odd, exploitative and pathological behaviour is explained away as "trauma related". He did this or that...because trauma...he fetishized and used her...because trauma. He's just a smol bean with zero agency, ect, etc.🙄 He's an adult with agency who made bad choices, as did his stalker. We like a clear villain and victim in every story because it's simpler. But that's not what went on with those two. It was definitely a dance...by two very messed up adults. If I engaged with my stalker and had "relations" with him, that would be my choice. And one you can't just explain away with "but trauma" like I'm ten years old. It's very different from people who lay down clear boundaries, behave honourably, and still pay with their lives. Imo, The Infantilizing of Richard and the demonizing of Martha is mostly driven by disgust over her appearance. I don't think we're more sympathetic towards women-- rather, we're more sympathetic and willing to explain away the bad behaviour of attractive people.

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I have to wonder if that was not the ultimate plan by the author...

Correct, but the error might be in labeling the drama a "true story" rather than "based on a true story". It might cost Netflix.

@@donbrown1284 But, who watches a movie, and even if it says it's a true story, believes that poetic license has not been used? I wouldn't watch such a show and think that it is 100% totally accurate.

​@@donbrown1284I've been wondering why they wouldn't have said "based on true events" instead of "this is a true story"

@@KimberlyLetsGo Legally, it makes a difference how it's labeled.

@@donbrown1284 Can you share what that difference within the legalities?

Really? I’ve only watched four episodes so far. Ep 4 was really bizarre. Are you saying it gets worst?

The whole series made me uncomfortable but I won't spoil anything ​@grumpyoldlady_rants

@@grumpyoldlady_rants hell no episode four was the worst by far. It’s an easier watch from the stuff with Darien.

@@grumpyoldlady_rants It gets worse.

You havent seen very many things then. Watch the documentary Lover, Stalker, Killer. Makes this story look like barbie

The guy played himself and made a bag out of it. Come on. The woman is unstable but he was enjoying it and turned the event into making himself a celebrity. He's so traumatized he used his acting background to play himself

I think RG and Fiona are both unhinged liars to be honest. I think RG is ALOT more clever than Fiona and ALOT more manipulative. I don’t believe either of them I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Did you watch the show? He is very critical of himself & even comes off unsympathetic in many of his actions which lead to leading Martha on & also not telling the police the truth. We felt sorry for him but also angry at him as viewers. Plus it started as a one man show & Netflix picked it up. They probably wanted him to play the main role. And it made the s3xual assault scene more real & brutal & show us that s3xual assault of men are trivialize. There was no way the viewer could trivialize it seeing him reliving that. I do believe that most ppl who want fame are probably higher on the narc scale than the the average person.

​@@welsh.truth.dragon3914 100% agree!....Like Gadd didn't KNOW that this WOULD inflate things....pair of sickos!...They should marry and have lots of little stalkers!🇦🇺😂

​@@catherinepositano8544 yeah that's really funny

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Yes a thoughtfully fair comment 🎉

She changed her name slightly-as it was double barrelled at one point-she said in the interview. Also in the U.K. it’s going around that she does have a stalking charge from 25 yrs ago. For stalking an MP . I’m not sure how to verify this. Also if she has changed her name-what the protections are around that and her legal records?

Yea call us when you've had to defend yourself so we can lock you up for murder. This place is so backwards.

Yes I agree. Off topic but I have to say something....Your lil' dog in your pic is adorable BTW :)

@@Vrin137 thank you! She is a clear red miniature pincher.

​@@WhatsthedealsquirterHe rejected her. That should have been enough. I had a stalker for years. Rejecting them, repeatedly, doesn't work. Nor does completely ignoring them or change email address and phone number when they live in the same area. Even now, I don't know how I'd deal with a new stalker. They are all different, except for the obsessive stalker trait that makes it impossible to get through to them - sometimes even for licenced psychotherapists. I learned that when I had to seek help myself, to learn how to sleep again after the trauma...

Did you watch the series? The guy liked it and is deranged as I don’t believe anything he says especially when he says this is a true storey and depicts her going to jail when she got no time.koz hes as off in la la land as she is.he probably made this to get her attention as he contany stated he misses her and here she is so.

The negative comments are people that watched and understood what they saw,instead of jumping on the sexist train.

I don’t. He claimed she had been sent to prison twice but she has no criminal record.

@@nathanielgreer2764 ok Fiona looks like you've discovered spell check lol

@@mamabeartrue420 the only verifiable fact available so far is that she has no criminal record. Netflix said for a 100% fact that she did but she does not. They haven’t produced the email, voicemails or texts to refute her claims but at this point they could. She has a dead bang lawsuit and I am guessing right now someone in Netflix’s legal department is getting fired.

There is only one verifiable fact in this whole debacle and that is Fiona never went to prison. Gadd and Netflix claim she has been to prison for stalking two times but can’t provide any evidence and neither can anyone else.

@@nathanielgreer2764That has not been proven yet. Just because she says she doesn’t have a criminal record, doesn’t mean she doesn’t have one.

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Equally nuts!

Is this comment for comedic effect? I don't get it otherwise, it seems redundant.

The Letter could have been just 1 paragraph too.

@@redleeks6253 lol a paragraph that went on for 106 pages 🤣

I haven’t watched it and I know about. Trailers, RU-vid reviews, people messaging her, memes, friends and family who have watched it telling her. Not saying she didn’t watch it but it’s easy to get information without watching it, especially when it’s so big and controversial

@@brumtownmiller6130 That's very true! However, if she's going to sue a major company you would think she'd have watched the series and not relied on outside sources for her information.

@@EricaH329 she can get her lawyers to do that. Aslong as she knows the show has said Atleast 1 lie about her, she can sue and get her lawyer to deal with any other allegations against her. Personally I would watch it if it was me

@@brumtownmiller6130 That may be true, but without watching the series herself how can she make the claims that it's false? Even to go as far as saying she's going to sue? Does she just assume they're false? Is she relying on what others are saying? It seems silly to me to jump to assumptions when she could simply watch the series and find out for herself.

​@@EricaH329 she might intend on using Prince Harry's method in Court... she'll say "I don't know how I was represented in the show, but I FEEL that I've been misrepresented."

Good observation

I love Nate's channel. He cover's some interesting cases

@@Reading_the_comments me too!

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I don't believe in all this soulmate stuff however, if it's true, BOTH people must feel they are each other's soulmate. LOL

Im sorry to hear that man. Gadd was brave for sharing his story. Women typically get away with this abuse more than men do.

He was real honest about his part, though. I don't think most people are capable of the sort of self criticism and insight he showed. Whether his motivation was an artist's curiosity about human nature and experience, passivity, codependency, masochism, guilt, need for admiration, or whatever, he owned his faults and learned from it, creating a very watchable series.

@@evelynwaugh4053 Well said. There were times I couldn't believe he went back to his r*pist and stalker, but also appreciated how honest he was about his behaviors. It was just so intriguing that I could not sleep until I watched it til the end.

@@anonymouse6703 Thanks. I was also riveted. It was pretty insightful about unhealthy relationships and how people can essentially volunteer for abuse when in vulnerable states. I was relieved he seemed to move on from that pattern.

No, she denied the Netflix version of the conviction and prison sentence. Journalists can usually find this information and yet no-one has. I think that she's taking this forward as a defamation claim against Netflix, and if she is correct about it, Netflix will face a massive damages action. I suspect, if Netflix failed to properly research the facts, there will be a very, very large out of court settlement.

We can't deny it plays a part. Female stalkers aren't taken as seriously or as dangerous. And that's already an issue with stalkers in general.

i mean the show is very popular

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What msm??

@@monzersaidMain stream media

Why would you want the MSM to explain it all when watching it would be the best explanation?

I had a stalker, a man, but less dangerous. went on one super casual date. We didn't work and I said I'm down to be friends. Well, he followed me across state lines (I didn't post anything about the trip) and he spraypainted my name and number all over the city. literally covering the front of a grocery store and the doors. My name is very unique, even in a big city. So. Eventually I went to the police. Two or three times actually. The last time I went was after he literally confessed to it over text. I had proof of the incidents and everything plus his confession and the cops said "well, what do you want us to do about it" it's the same response I got when I tried to file an SA against someone, and when I had to call during a DV crisis. I had to go to the hospital and still, they said no one will believe you anyway. Why? idk. All across the US, cops are like this. Useless. They don't keep us safe, WE keep us safe.

I've been stalked. It's weird to be looking out for a female who just happens to show up everywhere.

It's really sad that the cops don't do a thing until it's too late. Makes me so mad

She is a real person

Piers is a self aware narcissist. He went easy on Fiona and low-key tried to warn her that if the evidence exists (emails/voicemails) she could very well be discredited further by not taking any responsibility for her own part. She chose to double down.

I was wondering if Fiona agreed to this interview because she sees some of her own traits in him 🤔 I read that in 2020, he wrote articles about or spoke of Megan Markle on his tv show 77 times! In any other year, I would think he was a having slow newsworthy year, but 2020?😮 I found it weird that he always said she ghosted him. That's not how I'd expect a married man to refer to an actress he met once.

@@Ms.July29 Piers and Markle are as bad as each other. Actually, scrap that, Piers wins, once again because he's aware of his own behaviour. Markle is somewhere between Fiona and Piers. 😂

@sharfalor4244 I don't think he has that much awareness, but this goes to show that Fiona has more comrades than we realize.

Piers Morgan has interesting guests.... gotta say..

Exactly the same. I spent an hour refreshing my you tube feed before bed.x

It means she isn't the character Martha then, so why is she tweeting and speaking like Martha 😂

@@lisahere859 because they plainly and obviously based the character of Martha on her and then lied. Why is that a hard concept to understand?

She had called him a baby reindeer because of her toy which comforted her in her (probably horrible) childhood.

Exactly what I was thinking! Love BJ!

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Defamation means damaging someone's reputation no matter whether true or not. Truth is a defence though. If you say something true damaging someone's reputation, you are still "defaming" but the other person would not be entitled any compensation.

If she had the kind of history stated in the series, it would be very easy to find. It hasn't been made public because it didn't happen. Hes an actor, drama student, stated in the show he loves drama and chaos according to his friends, and this was a blown up fabricated version of events of interactions with a woman who probably was just experiencing anxious attachment.

@@benlap1977 well theres no doubt her reputation was/is damaged. He presented her as someone that had been arrested for her conduct because it was so serious, we know this is not true. I doubt the rest of the portrayal is either. He states quite clearly towards the end he had transferred his fears stemming from past abuse on to her. I'm sure his perception of her was a crazy stalker, but I think this is a bi product of ptsd and not her actions. I can't see why anyone here should feel comfortable using the term "facts", when we haven't been presented with any.

Same!

It’s because she’s not real. She’s an actress playing along. This is all a psyop to push a show. It’s pretty messed up.

@@cookiepartyyyshoot… I didn’t even think about that possibility. :(

​@@cookiepartyyyAnd where's your evidence of that?

Name change? Expunged?

So true. I’m currently healing from an extremely abusive relationship, and realizing I need to learn more about codependency. Thx for your coverage Dr G ❤

@@stewarln52284 I understand. I highly recommend listening to Dr. Ramani, The Enlightened Target and Dr. Less Carter. Sensitive, kind, caring and helpful people are the preferred Targets of Narscissts. Also on YT is a poor quality but very great info video on Assertiveness Training. It's so painful to go through. I wish you healing.

Exactly, when growing up boundaries didn't exist. I didn't even know what that was until I got away from family.

Blessed be the holy name of Jesus