Alone on the Cancer Boat: A Vlogbrothers Reunion 

Great socks and coffee from great people 😍

Where is your 30’ mic? Did you forget the bit?

You both are handling this great ❤

The audio is great!! No problem,,,Ive recently just "Got Off that Boat"!! Myself, Chemo sucks A$$, True!! Im Sooooooooo Happy that Im not needing anymore,,,for now!! Micro-Morts, Lmao!! Staying positive isnt easy, but definately helps!!

the audio is fine. I hear you both laugh and that makes my day.

great idea in my opinion

the problem with suggesting things online that are really good is often people won't use it because legally you could say it was your idea and sue them later

@@kevinchristopher1443a real shame😩

That might be the only thing that gets my feet into motion doing all the chores I’ve been putting off lol

Genius

That makes sense. Also, that may be true of many things ...

It's very easy to hurt you badly by falling less than 2 meters.

Great point. Also a good metaphor for other things. ALSO thank you so much for organizing Hank's beautiful card. It means so much to him. -John

@@vlogbrothers I'm so glad Hank loves the card. ❤️

@@vlogbrothers HANK FACE = AD SPACE

Ayy I listened to this episode recently too and have been thinking about it.

Not like he's there for that tree though.

My Dad has cancer and will be dead within a few days. He had all the treatments, and was neglected by the health system. He had 20kg of fluid in his leg, and couldn’t walk. He has tumours everywhere, oral thrush, swollen tonsils and more. He can’t even breath. You are a disgrace, your videos are offensive. You are the least alone person going through this, and you’re going through basically nothing so far. 1 video, I didn’t agree with, but I respected. Now I’ve lost all respect for you. You are a disgrace. At the very least, stop profiteering and remove your ads.

Taking care of stuff Hank shouldn’t have to worry about right now. A good papi.

Agree💯

Agree❤

Same! Hospice nurse here. A positive disposition makes everything better! (However I’m not a positive person-I’m working on it. I was raised in a religion where God was punative and that’s hard to shake).

RIGHT?! He's like "I don't want to be in this job, but my little brother needs me to take this job and I am HERE FOR IT"

I feel like this whole affair has brought out some big brother stuff within me. -John

it's great to see, keep it up you're doing a great job!

Ikr

Putting the Awesome sock info over Hank's image also just peak big brother trolling. I burst out laughing when i saw that

Same spare tire

It's why everyone on TikTok thinks they're the same person.😆 Of course, that's not a new phenomenon. I had a chemistry student years ago who called Hank "Fake John Green" after watching a Crash Course vid. Well, she did recognize they were different people who were just eerily similar I guess.

Their body composition is soooo similar 😂

Same posture, legs crossed… we love you guys!

The same pose with legs crossed and hands actively gesticulating...

Yes. It is this account which has many channels like crashcourse, scishow, etc. But they use this channel for personal use.

It is kind of incredibly adorable that they watch RU-vid from this account instead of having personal Gmail lol. I've never loved anyone enough to want them to be able to see my RU-vid history but Hank and John have been doing it for ten years!

​@@laurenredding1419I think they've talked about how it is a nice restraint because they don't want the other one seeing something stupid that they watched on impulse & messing up their algorithm. Which is so cute

​@@laurenredding1419since 2007!

My Dad has cancer and will be dead within a few days. He had all the treatments, and was neglected by the health system. He had 20kg of fluid in his leg, and couldn’t walk. He has tumours everywhere, oral thrush, swollen tonsils and more. He can’t even breath. You are a disgrace, your videos are offensive. You are the least alone person going through this, and you’re going through basically nothing so far. 1 video, I didn’t agree with, but I respected. Now I’ve lost all respect for you. You are a disgrace. At the very least, stop profiteering and remove your ads.

😂😂😂 what a retort.

@@rawdaaljawhary4174 100% should be doing stand-up as a side gig. Absolutely criminal that he doesn't

Thanks for the chuckle, hope you’re alright these days.

@@hopewilliard6781 I've got some stuff that is sticking around. Rheumatoid arthritis and Sjorgen's Syndrome mostly. Plus the sun is my mortal enemy now. But still kicking and making it everybody's problem lol

YUP

papa green 💚

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He has Green fingers.

Yeah I would be the same way. I can’t solve cancer but this damn trees fate is in my hands.

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Mission Accomplished in a Nonideal Way. -John

What’s the opposite of “task failed successfully”?

@@whitneywujkoayala8613 perhaps "task erroneously succeeded"

@@alalessia Alternatively, "pyrrhic victory" after the general Pyrrhus of Epirus, who won a battle against Romans (fairly impressive in its own right) only after such losses it wasn't a whole lot better than if they'd actually lost. Mission accomplished, a bunch of stuff still very much sucks though.

Omg, I wish I’d thought of that when I was pregnant. Even if I never actually said it to anyone, just imagining the person’s face when I looked them in the eye and said, “I’m on a boat; I don’t feel well,” would have absolutely made my day. 😂

That's a great idea, I might steal that one when I am conversationally unavailable!

​@@Pajali😊

I really love that analogy. My boat at the moment is my new ADHD diagnosis alongside my pre-existing autism one. I need to learn to be able to say "I can't talk, I'm on this boat".

​@@TJtheBeeanother AuDHD here, yeah sometimes you need to get out of that supermarket quickly because the boat started rocking quite heavily from all that noise.

Yes! What a sweet comment.

I love this perspective

Both legs crossed 😂

💜💜💜💜💜 yes

I've been on a different boat and the thing is when you're on the boat you don't want anyone else to have to be there, even as a swap, even your worst enemy... You just want there to be no more boats. I'm not even a nice person usually I'm very surly but I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

Probably every boat is different. People have been tweeting him boat schematics and nautical maps but his mileage may vary. :(

I couldn’t have said it better myself. ❤️

@@therabbithatExactly.

This. Absofreakinglutely posigoddamtively THIS, in all respects! ❤❤

Classic big brother mode. Always looking for any opportunity to show dominance or humiliate the younger. Speaking as the youngest of four. 😊

Hank also wants you to subscribe and he has graciously given over ad space ON HIS FACE. -John

@@AndreaCrisp Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I came to say. It was absolute perfection and, as the younger sibling, I can only imagine John pursing his lips, shaking his head, taking a breath, and then just accepting the ribbing.

@@vlogbrothers People usually lend their face to a brand by becoming brand ambassadors or endorsing the brand using the words coming out of their face, but Hank really commits to the bit

its giving Mike Wazowski

It's absolutely remarkable.

I had to back up the video because I thought I misheard it. This is amazing news!

my head goes to both ART and “we don’t eat hands Carl!” Big mood.

EXACTLY

I think it was JP II who said that there’s no such thing as coincidences.

My Dad has cancer and will be dead within a few days. He had all the treatments, and was neglected by the health system. He had 20kg of fluid in his leg, and couldn’t walk. He has tumours everywhere, oral thrush, swollen tonsils and more. He can’t even breath. You are a disgrace, your videos are offensive. You are the least alone person going through this, and you’re going through basically nothing so far. 1 video, I didn’t agree with, but I respected. Now I’ve lost all respect for you. You are a disgrace. At the very least, stop profiteering and remove your ads.

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"The time will pass anyways" has been my mantra ❤ good luck, captain! I hope your recovery is swift

I’m sorry you’re going through this. I’m sending huge amounts of good thoughts, well-wishes, positive vibes and prayers your way.

Hugs for you ❤ That majorly sucks ❤❤❤ not gonna give a but, just internet hugs ❤❤❤

I think I can speak for most if not all of us that we wish there was something we could do for you.

Surgery *and* PMS?! You are amazing to make it through that. Keep it up.

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I didn't even think about that. You're right

I was wondering if anyone else remembered that, because I was so amazed John was able to jump into a pit 15' below him!

@@alleycaaat and he found it... quite thrilling actually!

My Dad has cancer and will be dead within a few days. He had all the treatments, and was neglected by the health system. He had 20kg of fluid in his leg, and couldn’t walk. He has tumours everywhere, oral thrush, swollen tonsils and more. He can’t even breath. You are a disgrace, your videos are offensive. You are the least alone person going through this, and you’re going through basically nothing so far. 1 video, I didn’t agree with, but I respected. Now I’ve lost all respect for you. You are a disgrace. At the very least, stop profiteering and remove your ads.

How are there not any comments on this yet? Pure gold.

@@ChristinaMorassi There's nothing to add. Comment is perfect

You are a PhD student. When you are talking about cancer, it is most likely one very specific type of cancer.

Why are you telling them what they're studying? Quit mansplaining my guy.

@@Imm0rtalcookie I'm sorry. That was not my intention. I can clearly see now that I failed miserably to communicate my point. Let me try again. My point is when a PhD student is presenting in a seminar, I expect that the audience is also biologists. This audience knows about cancers and does not use an umbrella term. To this audience, @Caro9515 need not start the talk from what cancers are and then narrow down to the topic of research.

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@@sexyscientisteven if that is true their statement about so many types of diseases still rings true just to express the complexity of developing treatment.

It's my trademark. -John

It's definitely older sibling energy. As a fellow older sibling I wholeheartedly approve.

​@@delriogwthat was my sense, older sibling energy. I know I'd do the same.

thanks, I was not really sure what he was doing?

​@alixila I believe the tree is leaning over too far in one direction and in danger of growing poorly or falling over and uprooting itself, so he has used rope and pins to anchor it to the ground in the other direction

​@@alixilaHe was trying to correct the angle of the tree's growth by coaxing it to grow upright with the cord (instead of being inspired by the Leaning Tower of Pisa). The Green brothers were also talking about Papa Green "staking" the tree, which is where you jab a long, wooden stake into the ground (upright) and tie the sapling to the stake with twine/rope all the way up the sapling to encourage upright growth. Hope that helped!

@@caitsayssmilewe dr CX G

That is the sweetest thing. 💞💞💞💞💞

You did great for being there for her. It’s only when we face such situations that we appreciate how precious and fragile normalcy is.

I feel this so hard. After we lost my sister 7 years ago we were of course all grieving, but grieving is exhausting and sometimes I just needed a break. We live in a small enough town that I could hardly leave the house without running into people giving condolences or asking how I was doing. Of course they meant well, but I felt like I was being turned into "the girl who's sister died" instead of "me". Of course I still had to grieve but some of the best healing times I had were with people who could let me have a break from that and just spend some time together doing fun stuff. They treated me normal and I will never forget them for that.

They are so lovably quirky

Thanks! I am trying hard! -John

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i mean i gotta agree here, “he may have cancer, but i’m still the older sibling” 😂

Same.😊

You really could feel that in the last shot

The tree got all the ropes and all the love!

Oh damn well that just made me tear up

@@Molscheira If only trees could receive that much love without people needing to get cancer

@@Ratigan2 That would be the dream!

one of the most interesting things I've read. I'm sorry your mom went through that and hope you're doing better

I completely relate on how our identity changes based on our mental difficulties. I used to be able to do extremely complex tasks, extraordinarily fast with little margin of error, now with MDD and GAD, I'm lucky I could get through this reply.

Same 🙏

One of mine is names, tho that may be a result of the surgery to remove the tumor as well. People I've known for years, all of a sudden the names are just gone. 😮

'Of course, in the end, our identities are never as fragile as we imagine them to be' is such a comforting sentence. Your mom sounds like an amazing woman, I'm sorry she had to go through that

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You are definitely not to blame for your disease. Best to you.

I feel comforted too, but for OCD instead. I’m learning so much about the emotional aspect of having a health problem. And to not blame myself for it. Good luck 👍 ❤

Bless you dear heart! You’re not defective!

It helps them understand what each other is going through. It honestly sounds so nice 👍 I love that for them

I think we might've just ruptured the same lower back disc. :) -John

@@vlogbrothers I sure hope not! Neither of you need any new health issues!

@@vlogbrothersyeah, pretty sure Katherine and the Yeti would exercise their veto powers on that one, no?

As a person with no siblings sibling dynamics FASCINATE me. I just can never understand what it's like to have someone who grew up alongside you and experienced the same things you did and knew you when you were small and when you were less small and remember your whole life. Every time I start thinking about it too hard it makes my head hurt a bit

​@@CircleThinkeras a person with many siblings, no siblings always fascinated me growing up. Your house must have been so quiet! I think as I've gotten older it's been really interesting to learn how similar experiences were experienced and remembered entirely differently from some of my brothers. But people can usually pinpoint my siblings as mine because of our similarities, so that's cool

Vlogdad 😭🙏

Forgot that Lauren can be gender-neutral and was VERY confused for a second. Nephew, niece, nibling, wholesome regardless. :D

@@blaireshoe8738 i misheard it too xD i thought i heard Warren but Hanks' son is named Orin.

I was so ducking impressed watching this, remembering the time John was putting his max mental effort to stand upright on a table ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GWjYcWoaSbI.html

​@@ssdd28561Thank you for the link, that's the cutest video ever! ❤

People genuinely want to help you out on that boat but they literally can't. At times there is an ocean between you and them. Other times the boat comes ashore and they meet you at the doc Been there. Done that. Cancer sucks

I fucking love this channel and its community.

You can expand on that to basically every government run or government managed system. The legal system is also incredibly difficult to navigate. I'm not saying one of worse than the other or the government is inherently bad, just that all these systems come with hurdles. Healthcare sucks, the courts suck, permitting sucks, etc.

@@CRneu Except if you have many if not most cancers, and can't get treatment d/t the failure of the healthcare system, you die. Heathcare, sadly, isn't a government run or managed system here. That's part of the problem. It's the profit part that's the problem. Same with for-profit prisons, incidentally, thought the rest of that system IS government run.

Marineford Admirals

If their Dad was sitting with them in the video he would also have been in the exact same position.

They do this on purpose so they can confuse us. Lol.

@@stevenlippold Lmaoo, as if they haven't confused people enough

一切为了

that’s kinda shocking because even as someone who hasn’t studied biology in high school i knew there were different cancers. heck i knew that even when i was like 8 and heard about lung cancer and deduced that since there is a specific name for this one cancer there must also be others. also the thought of the government of one country holding back the cure to a terrible disease is just so dystopian to me.

what kills me is that OTHER countries are NOT for profit medical system so why wouldn't THEY be curing their people? Also, why do people think that pharma execs and the stupendously wealthy don't also have family members with cancer? As if being in charge of pharma or having enough money makes you immune to cancer.

There's a SIGNIFICANT flaw in the theory that ANYONE "holds back the cure" in order to make money... IF that were the case, they're currently doing so with "I don't know" as the cover... NOBODY EVER IN HISTORY made money by NOT knowing something... nor by NOT selling a product... period. Making a mysterious cure too expensive for the low-income folks, STILL REQUIRES actually having a cure in the first place... AND with "no cure in sight"... There's no money to be made... AND we already have enough quacks claiming to cure everything with stupid crap... SO anyone offering some mysterious "cure that nobody else has thought of" automatically LOSES value in a loss of credibility just on the association with quackery... SO it just doesn't work... AND I don't need the LEAST education in biology, medicine, or human physiology to know that. It's simple economics and socio-psychology. You're never going to make MORE money on a cure without a cure to begin with... AND that cure doesn't even do you any good UNTIL PEOPLE KNOW YOU'VE GOT IT!!! It's the same thing with "refusing to cure the common cold" mythos for medical professionals and "big pharma" trying to leverage out as much money as they can... It's just not going to work... ;o)

Yeah, I’ve had a similiar genetic class and its absolutely crazy! All the differents genes and proteins that affect differents aspects of certain cancer at certains stage, and all the generic predisposition, and hormonal responses and the many ways the cancerous cells travels and replicates. I cannot wrap my head around all this and I have immense respect for the people who do

I had a college bio class where my professor said “there is not only a cure for cancer, there are many cures.” Because every form of treatment that has eliminated cancer cells in a person, can be considered to have cured their cancer. Chemo can be “a cure”, surgery can be “a cure”, radiation can be “a cure”, etc. It was a very good revelation for me, that there is no magic cure that we are all waiting to be discovered, there are already a lot of scientific achievements in the cancer field, and it is so so broad, how can we ever depend on finding 1 thing that would fix everyone’s cancer?

Pro tip - service dogs can alert to oncoming migraines way before you would know! Highly recommend looking into a service dog - literal lifesavers.

Well said.

Most of my chronic conditions are auto-immune, as in parts of my body are treated as invaders by my immune system. Liver, thyroid, pituitary, adrenal, testosterone, etc. All under attack, and the spill-over led to things like pulmonary edema, portal vein thrombosis, chronic arrythmia, and so much more. There is no "cure" for most of my problems, only treatments to put off my impending liver transplant and/or early death. - This has informed and affirmed my decision to not have offspring to hand this [redacted] down to.

@@MonkeyJedi99 I'm so sorry you're going through this.

@@elisabetk2595 Thanks for your words. Currently everything is managed with 20 different daily meds (7 being OTC), but at least my bloodwork keeps coming back mostly in the normal range.

Also cancer is an umbrella term for hundreds of different diseases.

I had my first ocular migraine when i was running participants in psychology experiment that requires typing in precise info while kind of reaching over the participant. i had to use my peripheral vision to see anything! Luckily there was no accompanying headache

Ocular migraines are so weird, right? Very trippy. Also because at first it is so unclear what is going on. Part of being on the boat I guess.

I've never had an ocular migraine before but I can really _feel_ that situation.

I hate my ocular migraines SO much. Idk what triggered it (because I'd never had one prior), but in 2022, I had 25 mingraines ALL with auras. I'm finally on a medication that has stopped them (knock on wood), but that was probably one of the worst years of my life so far in terms of health. :/

Im dying lol

Or an Ingmar Bergman movie.

@@jcortese3300 Your comment made me doubt myself but it all makes sense in the end. 'Bergman' is a very dutch/german last name and after reading his wikipedia page for 2 minutes I found this. "The progenitor of the Calwagen family, the merchant Paul Calwagen, had emigrated from Holland to Karlshamn, Sweden in the 17th century." It all makes sense in the end.

@@captaindcc Bergman is directly translated into mountain man from Swedish

​​@@elsacelsing6968nd in Dutch, and I'm pretty sure German too. It's just a standard germanic thing, we're all connected by language.

Why are u in every single comment section oml

I think that's the right vibe. I think they got the vibe right.

when does he do this in this video!

Well, cancers do all have one commonality, which is "your cells, but mutated to be bad". So I do think there is *some* possibility of CRISPR-based treatments resulting in a general procedure that will cure any cancer. I'm not holding my breath or anything, but I think it's not out of the realm of possibility.

@@sometalkaboutbeinghuman they do the opposite, they actually point out that it isn't one disease. My comment is agreeing with their point 🙂

@@alankraut7894 while CRISPR certainly holds potential, it's unlikely to be a broad "cure" because even individual cancers are polygenic. Yes, there is usually a single cell that starts things off, but when you study something like a tumour you can see that different subpopulations of cells accumulate different sets of mutations. That's not to say CRISPR holds no promise, just that it's unlikely to be a "magic bullet" 🙂

@@sometalkaboutbeinghuman I'm just now realising you may be talking about the second part of the comment, about covering Hank's face 😅 0:23 and 0:42

I'll admit I'm not a medical student, but having had migraines for decades (only sometimes with aura), very used to running through the basic stroke symptoms when one hits regularly (I lose feeling in half my face, so long as I can see it move in a mirror - migraine)

I had no clue what was happening, as I was at work (school) and called a friend who said I made no sense whatsoever. Everyone thought I was having a stroke. Nope, just a new neural diagnosis.

@@bellablue5285 I thought I was having a slightly weird migraine with the usual vomiting once and it turned out I was having a cerebellar hemorrhage. I didn't have any one-sided issues or other symptoms on that list. And it wasn't even quite the "worst headache of my life", I've had some pretty awful migraines.

@elisabetk2595 oh wow that sounds scary. Hopefully everything is ok now (or at least improving)

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It’s the greatest possible thing imo

Yeah that was the moment that got me too, that "Oh Hank."

I started getting ocular migraines when I was 14. I don't mind the aura part much anymore, cause it's how I know I have enough time to take a Tylenol-3 before the pain kicks in. 👍

I went to the ER my first time! It was very scary and incredibly jarring. Still catches me off guard whenever it happens

Yeah my auras scared me pretty badly the first time, but you come to appreciate the natural warning

Me when i got my diagnosis back in 2015 😂

as someone with lupus i have the opposite. "Oh you have lupus that's pretty neat. HERE, have some other awful diseases to make you feel bad about everyone everywhere including yourself :D" ...thanks youtube.