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Alternative Peace Treaties of the Great War 

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@Hunnicplacid
@Hunnicplacid 8 лет назад
I don't think that East Prussia would want to be independent.
@WisdomComestoThoseThatSeekIt
@WisdomComestoThoseThatSeekIt 7 лет назад
Рудольф Хайзенберг Likely not. Probably would have rejoined germany later on and may have prevented ww2.
@OswaldMarcRogers
@OswaldMarcRogers 6 лет назад
My guess is they would have autonomy in Germany or if it wants to be independent, a client state to Germany.
@БоянМихов-м9э
@БоянМихов-м9э 6 лет назад
Рудольф Хайзенберг They would probably not been allowed to unify with Germany just like Austria in our timeline
@kalyka98
@kalyka98 6 лет назад
Plus Poland wouldn't have a port to the baltic sea wich was the reason Danzic, which was 100% german, was given to them, making Poland far more dependent from Germany
@gheorghitaalsunculitei9146
@gheorghitaalsunculitei9146 5 лет назад
@Janos Musatic The history is made by the winners,i'm wrong?
@drex6347
@drex6347 9 лет назад
"African territories" that are in the Middle East. You've got a failure there, nice video anyways.
@ImKevin
@ImKevin 8 лет назад
+Drex The Northern African nations are known as mena nations to the middle east and are politically speaking, considered part of the middle eastern regions.
@sylvali1046
@sylvali1046 8 лет назад
Maybe that Africa is part of Middle East, but Middle East isn't a part of Africa.
@corneliusmcmuffin3256
@corneliusmcmuffin3256 7 лет назад
Sylvali Wat? So a continent is part of a region, but the region can't be part of a continent?
@shinydewott
@shinydewott 7 лет назад
Sylvali don't go Jaiden Smith on us
@LuminantLion
@LuminantLion 7 лет назад
Middle East is a part of Asia.
@Serdar146
@Serdar146 8 лет назад
Apart from losing Istanbul, this was a much better treaty then Sevrs
@matthewkareson5220
@matthewkareson5220 8 лет назад
for the allies this treaty would have been great
@shinydewott
@shinydewott 7 лет назад
Serdar Ersöz only difference was İzmir anyway
@kmstraumsheim
@kmstraumsheim 7 лет назад
This will create a facist Turkey
@byzantiumbyzantineempireea3690
WHAT'S WRONG WITH GREEKS IN CONSTANTINOPLE
@mishkata348
@mishkata348 7 лет назад
Byzantium/Byzantine empire/Eastern Roman Empire they dont deserve it...
@t-mag3004
@t-mag3004 8 лет назад
These alternate treaties seem atleast plausible, compared to the other ones i've seen, and i really like the border changes, their not too extreme, but not too similar either. In fact. i'd say it's great and could even possibly followed the timeline route actually taken in real life. In other words. Clever, but simple!
@dasca.n9490
@dasca.n9490 2 года назад
dude , they are worst than the actual ones , and the actual ones ended up in a 2 world war
@osmangazi8564
@osmangazi8564 7 лет назад
lol according to your map Armenia isn't independent or covers all the territory of the Russian Empire
@tallerstond8105
@tallerstond8105 6 лет назад
acrolein cough cough russian civil war
@plotniski2822
@plotniski2822 6 лет назад
Lugar Fan rip XP
@liker-qd4fz
@liker-qd4fz 4 года назад
He meant the armenia ssr
@liker-qd4fz
@liker-qd4fz 4 года назад
1.Durring the war,it was not independent. 2.He meant the Armenian SSR,and as it was a part of the USSR,it covers all of ots territory.
@piyo744
@piyo744 4 года назад
@@liker-qd4fz In 1920, Armenia was under the control of the Transcaucasian Federative Republic. However, with the terms of the treaty and the ongoing Russian Civil War, it would likely mean Armenia under its de jure control under the Russian Republic, seeing as nobody recognized Transcaucasia.
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 8 лет назад
Come on... At the end of the war, the Italian Army already arrived to the Brenner Pass. Is not credible that, with the peace treaty, they would revert back, giving back to Austria 13.607 km2 of territory, including not only South Tyrol, but even the Italian speaking Trentino, when, at the same time, France were awarded with the entire Alsace-Lorraine.
@korvangray7107
@korvangray7107 6 лет назад
This treaty would make the Italians furious and by the way why do the UK get all of the ottoman near east, france would want a piece too
@jecko980
@jecko980 5 лет назад
Not all tyrol region but at least Trentino, it was one of the causes of the Italian join in war
@lordbrettsinclair68
@lordbrettsinclair68 4 года назад
Bolzano 75% Italy 25% german
@omerzohar1906
@omerzohar1906 9 лет назад
two weird things: hamburg to great britain? wtf? and how the fuck is the middle east africa? kek
@lucaconstantin7548
@lucaconstantin7548 8 лет назад
Hamburg industry was used by GB.That is what he means.
@omerzohar1906
@omerzohar1906 8 лет назад
Luca Constantin It's from long ago, but I believe that I talked about grammar
@edwardcollier7218
@edwardcollier7218 8 лет назад
It would make more sense if it was Hannover that was given to Britain.
@ethanrosenberger9219
@ethanrosenberger9219 8 лет назад
Hanover is in mainland Germany.
@edwardcollier7218
@edwardcollier7218 8 лет назад
Ethan Rosenberger And had a personal union with Great Britain.
@manov_denis
@manov_denis 4 года назад
How does Austria-Hungary forced to pay 210M marks and get dissolved at the same time?
@jaqbs0n
@jaqbs0n Год назад
hungary pays 105M marks and austria pays the same
@Freedomfighter608
@Freedomfighter608 11 месяцев назад
​@@jaqbs0ndon't try helping, it's B's end of story
@jonnyrawket8158
@jonnyrawket8158 5 лет назад
Hamburg to UK is unrealistic even in AH. Also the Bulgarian and Ottoman treaties were essentially the same. Tyrol even in an AH would have gone to Italy. A more likely AH treaty for Austria-Hungary would have seen just an Austro-Hungarian Union. This is honestly the most terrible alternate treaties in ever seen.
@ZephyrusMapping
@ZephyrusMapping 9 лет назад
This is barely even alternate. Almost all the changes are the same.
@sylvali1046
@sylvali1046 9 лет назад
+Zephyrus Mapping True. I hoped more independant states from Ottoman Empire
@БоянМихов-м9э
@БоянМихов-м9э 6 лет назад
Zephyrus Mapping Well what do you expect? Atleast the changes were still things that could have happened and not some random unrealistic fantasies
@void_wyrm
@void_wyrm 6 лет назад
i mean some original plans could have taken place, like Italy getting Dalmatia ,Greece getting some of the ottoman empire's coast, things like that
@piyo744
@piyo744 4 года назад
@@void_wyrm I mean, Italy didn't even get South Tyrol, much less anything in the Balkans. Italo-German relations are either gonna tank or soar after this TL's Anschluß.
@MenschMair
@MenschMair 6 лет назад
Well atleast we kept South Tyrol this time
@Titanicm1912
@Titanicm1912 5 лет назад
Trentino-Alto Adige*
@imthebestdummespersonalive5951
@@Titanicm1912 *süd Tirol
@Titanicm1912
@Titanicm1912 5 лет назад
@@imthebestdummespersonalive5951 Trentino Alto Adige*
@anthonybousquet3590
@anthonybousquet3590 4 года назад
King Titanic I *süd Tirol
@Titanicm1912
@Titanicm1912 4 года назад
@@anthonybousquet3590 Alto Adige*
@davidecapretta2744
@davidecapretta2744 7 лет назад
I think that Trentino would also go to Italy. Italy fought for it in WW1. And...africana territory in middle est? But great video, after all.
@gazhevski
@gazhevski 8 лет назад
why do you refer to the arabic parts of te ottoman empire in asia as "ottoman africa"?
@tillsee8218
@tillsee8218 8 лет назад
Why hamburg to england ???
@Daniele-et5ks
@Daniele-et5ks 6 лет назад
Before unification there were some british client states in northern Germany, most notably Hannover. I guess that in this video they chose Hamburg instead of Hannover because Hamburg is a territory not so far from british islands. An inner city like Hannover would require at best giving Germany duty's money every time some brit'd need to reach the city. At best.
@piyo744
@piyo744 4 года назад
Hamburg is a port city. I assume it's both historical context and something similar to the Chinese Legation.
@trevorm1876
@trevorm1876 9 лет назад
Thank you for finally making another video. It reminds me of why you're my favorite mapper.
@alexnannetti7095
@alexnannetti7095 7 лет назад
Where is the Trento for Italy?
@GeneralissimusStalin17
@GeneralissimusStalin17 5 лет назад
>"African territories" *Literally the Middle East*
@batzal9459
@batzal9459 5 лет назад
if middle east is African (not really) then what is north-west sharan region (I guess according to the youtuber who uploaded the video about EUROPE) and I guess that all of Russia is asian according to this *NOT REALLY I WAS JUST TRYING TO ALTERNATE THE MISTAKES OF CONTINECTS
@TheBlueMapper
@TheBlueMapper 9 лет назад
Great. wilo you do ww2 too ?
@NickHDMapping
@NickHDMapping 9 лет назад
+The Blue Mapper sure
@deoka31
@deoka31 9 лет назад
+Nick HD Mapping and what about this great war when germany wins
@vagrant9414
@vagrant9414 9 лет назад
Nick Greece is looking nice thanks
@t1luso609
@t1luso609 9 лет назад
+Nick HD Mapping wow Compared to Versailles this would be more gg to germany.
@t1luso609
@t1luso609 9 лет назад
+Nick HD Mapping by the rest The real treatys would considered good.
@alialbaqali4881
@alialbaqali4881 9 лет назад
the african territories are obviously middle eastern for a mapper like you to use an incorrect term is kind of disappointing
@juliechen3285
@juliechen3285 2 года назад
it was a mistake
@TheKingofMCEmeralds
@TheKingofMCEmeralds 9 лет назад
Only 5,000 subs? For a channel that produces high quality videos? You really deserve more...
@NickHDMapping
@NickHDMapping 9 лет назад
+The Avalorian (Isaiah Vega) Thanks!
@mr.lello3339
@mr.lello3339 9 лет назад
Bruh
@Mrcheekymonkeyisback
@Mrcheekymonkeyisback 8 лет назад
+Nick HD Mapping™ Agreed!
@TheSuperCanucks
@TheSuperCanucks 8 лет назад
"High" "Quality"
@Person-vt3bn
@Person-vt3bn 8 лет назад
Heh
@januszsaleta6569
@januszsaleta6569 9 лет назад
Man, I love your vids!
@antoniomoldovan8961
@antoniomoldovan8961 9 лет назад
Congrats for 5k subs
@NickHDMapping
@NickHDMapping 9 лет назад
+Antonio Moldovan Thanks
@ysteinbakka7360
@ysteinbakka7360 9 лет назад
+Nick HD Mapping why no afoe?😭😭
5 лет назад
Türkler Böyle Bir Anlaşmaya Razı Gelmedide Gelmezde.
@Toby-Wan-Kenobi940
@Toby-Wan-Kenobi940 5 лет назад
Greece: gains Istanbul Atatürk: *not for long*
@hellenicboi14
@hellenicboi14 5 лет назад
God: Guess again fam.
@laughable6650
@laughable6650 8 лет назад
YES WELCOME BACK CONSTANTINOPLE!!!
@Sheldam
@Sheldam 8 лет назад
the Middle East AFRICAN territories?! LOL study geography before you make those videos
@PolarMapperislove
@PolarMapperislove 7 лет назад
It's a mistake...
@blankblank6545
@blankblank6545 6 лет назад
These*
@redphoenix2039
@redphoenix2039 6 лет назад
Calm the hell down dude
@rareskanchuk
@rareskanchuk 9 лет назад
Ok by the way I like your vids keep it up! :)
@NickHDMapping
@NickHDMapping 9 лет назад
+RARES CANCIUC thank you
@danielburkeodonoghue7478
@danielburkeodonoghue7478 8 лет назад
Constantinople was given back!
@RushPowa
@RushPowa 7 лет назад
Daniel Burke O Donoghue Little known fact: Istanbul was also given to the Greeks in real life. Then they ambitiously declared war to reclaim even more territory in Anatolia, but were driven out by the Turks.
@danielburkeodonoghue7478
@danielburkeodonoghue7478 7 лет назад
Borate Boromire​ yes I know. The allies had turkey carved up, but then attaturk struck back
@danielburkeodonoghue7478
@danielburkeodonoghue7478 7 лет назад
***** you are misinformed then.
@axel0_02
@axel0_02 7 лет назад
England promised to Italy some land in turkey and that land was given to grece, so we have sold weapons to the turks
@theebs1
@theebs1 4 года назад
wait but it wasn't. Greece took Eastern Thrace not Istanbul. You can barely see the little enclave that is Istanbul
@benitomussolini1922
@benitomussolini1922 5 лет назад
VITTORIA MUTILATA, REMEMBER.
@anguscovoflyer95
@anguscovoflyer95 8 лет назад
will you do a part 2 of operation franco?
@bo1bo1bo1unlosode
@bo1bo1bo1unlosode 9 лет назад
2:14 that the wrong flag,at that time italy had the kingdom of italy flag,not the modern
@rareskanchuk
@rareskanchuk 9 лет назад
Are you going to make a 5k subscriber special? If yes is going to be a q and a?
@NickHDMapping
@NickHDMapping 9 лет назад
+RARES CANCIUC i dont know
@thatpeasant8760
@thatpeasant8760 9 лет назад
What is the song in the video?
@kaizerssc
@kaizerssc 3 года назад
Thank you for making preußen independent
@PaulKar
@PaulKar 7 лет назад
Would you mind if i did my own Alternate Great War Treaty?
@JustAEuropeanGuy
@JustAEuropeanGuy 9 лет назад
Great video as usually!
@viddobrisek6953
@viddobrisek6953 9 лет назад
South Tirol would be Italian.
@shinydewott
@shinydewott 7 лет назад
4:00 "African Territories"
@SpatsirkSpart2.0
@SpatsirkSpart2.0 9 лет назад
5k subs wow can't wait for the day when you Anschluss MOAP :D
@Sekretariat.
@Sekretariat. 8 лет назад
Hamburg zu GB und Ospreußens Unabhängigkeit war ne schlechte Entscheidung.
@korvangray7107
@korvangray7107 6 лет назад
I can agree with hungary keeping Carpathian Ruthenia but there is no Austria would have kept South Tirol...
@adrianatgaming8640
@adrianatgaming8640 8 лет назад
Well Thrace hasn't been under greek control since 1400s
@eisenhower15
@eisenhower15 9 лет назад
Sweet video I had thought about a alternate treaty before
@vaivia5207
@vaivia5207 6 лет назад
The territories of the teatry of London to Italy
@benitomussolini1922
@benitomussolini1922 4 года назад
"Vittoria mutilata"
@cretium805
@cretium805 7 лет назад
Why did Britain want Hamburg?
@elliott9
@elliott9 5 лет назад
Cretium not sure.... but the king of England was the king of Hannover for a long time so maybe they want it back? I don’t think they were very interested in it during WW1 however.
@evoss
@evoss 9 лет назад
No more Trento for Italy D: . Anyway, great video dude!
@JustAEuropeanGuy
@JustAEuropeanGuy 9 лет назад
but why you don't give the benelux a part of Germany? Belgium was hit very hard in ww1....
@chillaxo9863
@chillaxo9863 5 лет назад
Because it is German?
@aphid1520
@aphid1520 4 года назад
@@chillaxo9863 belgium is a part french and the other considered dutch and the part that borders germany it's the french side so your coment doesn't make sense
@chillaxo9863
@chillaxo9863 4 года назад
@@aphid1520 you didn't understand
@okarl7825
@okarl7825 7 лет назад
Cool vid but why did Italy not get the Hapsburg region?
@lancealot4566
@lancealot4566 9 лет назад
Will you make anymore AFOE ?
@aksmex2576
@aksmex2576 8 лет назад
that's not possible, Germany wouldn't let them tear it into little city states without a fight.
@lordoftea2753
@lordoftea2753 7 лет назад
Except they had a fight, and, for better or worse, they lost. It is called WWI, my friend.
@DevletGiray
@DevletGiray 8 лет назад
At least the Ottomans did not have it as bad as our Treaty of Sevres. That completely butchered Turkey, but it backfired when Mustafa Kemal pissed off and reconquered a ton of land, forcing the Triple Entente to sign the Treaty of Lausanne.
@mirotzu99
@mirotzu99 8 лет назад
What do you use for mapping?
@LuminantLion
@LuminantLion 7 лет назад
Wait how did Armenia get land from the Ottoman Empire? They're not even on the map there. Again, how do you call yourself a mapper?
@KyK-ux1yd
@KyK-ux1yd 4 года назад
YOU FORGOT TRENTINO FOR ITALY
@MaleCowsMilk
@MaleCowsMilk 6 лет назад
Wait how is the Austro Hungarian empire going to pay their portion if there is no empire left does only Austria and Hungary pay or does every nation that was in it pay.
@Vipstephen
@Vipstephen 7 лет назад
Song??
@mazman6559
@mazman6559 7 лет назад
South Tyrol? Austrian Hungarian manpower? Hamburg? Prussia? AFRICAN TERRITORIES? WHAT??
@Craft0Video
@Craft0Video 9 лет назад
African territories ._.
@NickHDMapping
@NickHDMapping 9 лет назад
+Craft0Video I KNOW SHUT UP
@Firex64
@Firex64 8 лет назад
In real treaty, Ottoman Empire was in a so much worse situation. All the lands were shared between enemy countries except Central anatolia
@PearMyPie
@PearMyPie 9 лет назад
Can you uploade the blank map you're using?
@muharremk_29
@muharremk_29 3 года назад
The softened version of the halep treaty sevr treaty in the Ottoman Empire
@Shebbi04
@Shebbi04 8 лет назад
In the scenario I would be in the demilliterized zone.
@jacobnrskov716
@jacobnrskov716 4 года назад
The map of the german empire doesn’t include south jutland?
@italianpc4119
@italianpc4119 6 лет назад
So, whait, already knowing that in reality Italy got less than he asked and deserved, you give even less?
@polishplanetpursuer4772
@polishplanetpursuer4772 7 лет назад
0:01 So offended that you thought I was going to be offended. Disliked.
@antimatterg
@antimatterg 3 года назад
@@muhtesemsiyanur judging by your about page, wouldn't sayuri be best girl?
@antimatterg
@antimatterg 3 года назад
@@muhtesemsiyanur tbh best girl is natsuki
@americafuckyea2722
@americafuckyea2722 9 лет назад
the quality is over 9000!
@Mrcheekymonkeyisback
@Mrcheekymonkeyisback 8 лет назад
:( Alternative Europe Series 2 please? ? :D thanks
@bearclawthegreat7600
@bearclawthegreat7600 7 лет назад
How for the ottoman for the Istanbul part
@andreipavel4389
@andreipavel4389 8 лет назад
The lands in middle east can't be taken by Britain alone. The French would not accept, as Britain promised them more land... UK is making too many gains with this treaty :/
@antonioferrari241
@antonioferrari241 7 лет назад
Wait we don't even get Trentino and trieste!?!?!?!? WHAT THE FUCK DUDE! That's why we went to war against the central powers! What about the treaty of london!?!?!?
@nickgarcia504
@nickgarcia504 7 лет назад
Antonio Ferrari you got Trieste, istria is the province and Trieste is a city in it
@axel0_02
@axel0_02 7 лет назад
That land belongs to Italy and only to Italy
@axel0_02
@axel0_02 7 лет назад
The coast of the Adriatic sea belongs to us
@axel0_02
@axel0_02 7 лет назад
savoy and Corsica too
@axel0_02
@axel0_02 7 лет назад
Nick Merines don't say this anymore, not in a place where I can read it
@joelp7665
@joelp7665 8 лет назад
Hungary never lost that much land in Transylvania it's just that a war between Hungary and Romania + allies were fought right after ww1 because of the disputed region. The Italians wanted Trentino, no way that it would stay Austrian.
@joelp7665
@joelp7665 8 лет назад
Ohioan Mapping yes but to unrealistic in my point of view, it could be better
@kreol1q1q
@kreol1q1q 8 лет назад
If it were better, it would have been historical. Only so much room to maneuver with history as recent as this. We all know what everyone wanted and what they realistically got and could keep.
@joelp7665
@joelp7665 8 лет назад
Krešimir Koržinek Right after the end of ww1, Hungary as a communist state invaded Romania for the disputed Transylvania and then they invaded Slovakia which led to the whole Transylvania to Romania and the carpathes became chezchoslovakia.
@benitomussolini1922
@benitomussolini1922 5 лет назад
"Vittoria mutilata"...
@tiddler8231
@tiddler8231 8 лет назад
Nice vid. Wait, you only have like 10k subs! How!
@Erling01
@Erling01 9 лет назад
105th viewer =D. What do you think about Norway, Nick?
@NickHDMapping
@NickHDMapping 9 лет назад
+Erling Kristiansen Kewl country
@Avustry
@Avustry 7 лет назад
hamburg to GB? greatest shit I've seen
@Hatsimmale
@Hatsimmale 8 лет назад
Interesting video.
@Trisaaru
@Trisaaru 9 лет назад
Where do you live, what country?
@NickHDMapping
@NickHDMapping 9 лет назад
+Spork healy Deutschland
@Trisaaru
@Trisaaru 9 лет назад
+Nick HD Mapping So, Germany. Why did you not say Germany.
@TriatomicAI
@TriatomicAI 9 лет назад
+Spork healy Because it's the same thing.
@Trisaaru
@Trisaaru 9 лет назад
+LoneStar Prussian Sorry, it's confusing.
@mrmapperil8144
@mrmapperil8144 7 лет назад
lol Armenia ate Russia
@CrusaderMapper
@CrusaderMapper 5 лет назад
The allies promised to give Trentino - Istria and Dalmatia to Italy
@berkomate9986
@berkomate9986 8 лет назад
Transilvanya its HUNGARYAN!!!!!
@axel0_02
@axel0_02 7 лет назад
Oláh Máté I've hoped to see the Hungarian egg from eu4 (without Croatia)
@TheGreenGuyMapping
@TheGreenGuyMapping 9 лет назад
So cool!
@PirateGaming1312
@PirateGaming1312 9 лет назад
You forgot to add Montenegro to Yugoslavia,still a great video!Keep it up :D
@NokiaTheReuploader
@NokiaTheReuploader Год назад
Montenegro might have kept its national identity in this scenario
@novuutheneolf3073
@novuutheneolf3073 8 лет назад
4:04 ah yes that's the thing that made Erdogan so furious.
@stijnvanginhoven6303
@stijnvanginhoven6303 9 лет назад
I love your videos. But are you going to make more TFOE vids??
@mariasirona1622
@mariasirona1622 3 года назад
Why didn't Czechoslovakia get Carpathoruthenia?
@Natalie-ez1zc
@Natalie-ez1zc 5 лет назад
>african territories >middle east wut
@benitomussolini1922
@benitomussolini1922 5 лет назад
I remind you of the Italian severed victory
@GroszekMeszek
@GroszekMeszek 9 лет назад
Nice video!
@kristofb.1939
@kristofb.1939 8 лет назад
How could Austro-Hungary pay if they splitted?
@tlcheesecakes9002
@tlcheesecakes9002 9 лет назад
First! And Nice video!
@NickHDMapping
@NickHDMapping 9 лет назад
+Empror Cheesecakes ty
@dallor714
@dallor714 4 года назад
someone should make an alternate ww2 video with this map
@RealClutchMcGee
@RealClutchMcGee 6 лет назад
*The Ottoman Empire was forced to may 260 billions of Turkic Liras*
@RealClutchMcGee
@RealClutchMcGee 6 лет назад
If you don’t get it read closer
@rareskanchuk
@rareskanchuk 9 лет назад
Can I ask you something? please:3
@NickHDMapping
@NickHDMapping 9 лет назад
+RARES CANCIUC k
@b.r.6405
@b.r.6405 3 года назад
Why the heck would East Prussia be independent? That’s literally where Germany basically started! Prussia was declared independent there! Prussia united Germany! How doesn’t that add up?!
@HappynHungryMapping
@HappynHungryMapping 9 лет назад
The question is will my call on you getting 10K be correct? I hope so! Congrats on 5K!
@norbertkocsis5945
@norbertkocsis5945 7 лет назад
African territories given to:Great Britain **gives Middle-Eastern territories to GB**
@bobthedj6992
@bobthedj6992 7 лет назад
The London awards? Is that not the treaty of Versailles
@Petidani0330
@Petidani0330 7 лет назад
No, there weren't "Allies", there were the "Entente powers".
@kristss8534
@kristss8534 8 лет назад
Nick... what is your opinion about immigrant crisis in europe? And since you're German what is your opinion on Koln attacks on christmas? Im not from Germany, i just wan't to know your opinion
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