I've Changed the Rules and Changed the Tin. I put together an updated Altoids survival Tin to use in conjunction with my EDC and will attempt to use it and only it for 2 nights of survivalin! Time for Redemption!!
Paracord is a throwback. It was for when that was the easiest thing to get. Tarred bankline is the way to go. It breaks down into three strands, can be used as a fire extender, and has a strength to weight ratio more consistent with your actual needs for emergency shelter building. Wrap up 4-6 six foot lengths and push them up against the side wall of the container. You don't have a whistle, you can make one out of a used .22 shell. Put some sinkers in the shell to extend the space.You're weakest on shelter. Can you fit a poncho in there? Or a garbage bag? Or a survival blanket? A good primitive shelter that is relatively waterproof can take 3-5 hours. A good enough shelter with a survival blanket can take minutes. The rest of the time being spent minimizing the wind and airflow without significant time being spent collecting the 3 or so feet of material needed to make it waterproof assuming it won't be dripping wet anyway. The downside of trying to make a fire in the rain is you have to grab dead limbs off trees, then baton and whittle them into tinder and kindling under cover from the rain. Batoning is unreliable with a Swiss army knife. If you have space, add a button LED light. The tin is for emergency situations. If you focus on meeting the worst possible case scenarios, you won't be kicking yourself because you have 3 methods to start fire but no way to protect it long enough to get it going in the rain or wind.
The point of a "survival" tin is the thought experimentation. How much can you fit into a small space? How efficient can you be with what little you have? It's not about actually thriving in the wild. If all you have is the tin, you're doing it wrong. It's not a go-tin lol. So on that note, if you're going off the 10 C's of survival as a baseline, he's definitely not going to fit shelter into that tin. He can fit tools in there to process wood for frames, but not a poncho lol. That being said, it is true that he probably would be fine on fire with just the firesteel and storm matches. If you have ideas about solving the shelter needs in an Altoids tin, please do assemble that tin and share the idea via video. As far as your statement about Paracord vs bank line, I like having both. If you can only have one, 550 Paracord gives you the outer shell + 7 inner strands, or if you get SurvivorCord, that has other materials inside. Bank-line only is less versatile, but definitely better for getting more cordage in a smaller space. Additionally, because bank line has a much smaller diameter, it's not always the best option for load-bearing applications, as it will tend to gouge into other materials in contact, aka the reason why straps are better in some applications. I do love me some bank line tho. The .22 whistle I *AM* interested in
Good kit. I’m glad you included a lot of multi purpose items. I’d probably suggest a few survival instruction cards for knot tying, first aid, signaling, and fire starting. It’s easy for even the most experienced people to forget their survival skills in an emergency situation. All in all, not bad. This kind of kit would probably serve well on it’s own if no other resources were available. 👍
Thanks for sharing your wonderful kit. If I may make some minor suggestions I would recommend putting that candle in an appropriately sized ziploc bag because candles melt and you don't want that wax getting all over the contents of your kit, and pre-thread at least one sewing needle with a good few feet or several centimeters of thread, and pre-tie at least one fishing hook with a few inches/centimeters of a leader, because when your fingers are cold and numb and you're shivering or even mildly incapacitated mentally and/or physically it is almost impossible to thread the small eyes of a needle or hook. I'd also find a way to pack a whistle or other signaling device. One cool thing I discovered is you can sand the paint off the outside bottom of the Altoids tin and polish it up to act as a crude signaling mirror. Don't even need to remove the contents of your tin!
You make a very good point about if you have your tin with you you’ll most likely have your every day carry items with you as well (your pocket knife and items on your key ring). Very realistic and logical tin. Great video!!
Every time I see one of these Altoids vids, i feel the urge to pull mine out go through the design steps again. Fun stuff. My favorite thing to do with tins (even though it's kinda cheating) is make a Paracord pouch for the tin so I don't have to store cordage inside xD
Nice kit! The only thing I would add would be a little pencil sharpener. You can gather some little sticks and make some shavings to start a fire or make stakes for a shelter, trap or marshmallow holder over the fire!
LOL @ 7:40 Bonus music - I add a utility blade and razor blade under the tape on the lid on mine. I always carry a pocket knife too, but I've used the razor blade a few times lancing and cutting skin. ie. when you get one of those splinters, a razor blade to cut away the skin is much nicer than even the sharpest of pocket knives. It's always fun to see a EDC tear down - thanks! Cheers form Lapeer.
Ughh...well I tried deleting the music 3 times, I just tried pushing it to the end, hopefully it takes. I'm going to add the blade, I have room for it! Lapeer, maybe I'll see you around!
@@FDOutdoors Maybe run into ya sometime? I saw yr RR Spike vid from Columbiaville. But haven't watched all yr vids yet, don't know where you are. But I enjoy seeing some familiar sights on your travels. Cheers!!
Dale these videos are awesome man so keep it up! Glad to see you’re still involved with scouts and what not. Hope you and the fam are doing well brother and hopefully i’ll see more of these videos popping up on my feed soon. Karl
Good luck on the next challenge, I need to do something like that also! This winter I did a canvas poncho and wool blanket overnighter in below freezing temps, and no real fire either. Trying to get the feel of how the poor sods during ww1 and ww2 had it. When I woke up at 4am I was pretty cold. Always fun to challenge one self. Take care!
Not sure if your tape is directly on the nail, but I wrap a layer of wax paper around items (like nail or whistle) and dab a bit of rubber cement to hold it. Then I wrap duct tape on that. I can pull it off if I need the item without having a gooey mess.
Good to see you willing to try again! And to see a water container and tabs so you’re not relying on a found can next time. Boiling water in a bag adds an extra risk of scalding, so gloves are a must. Last test you did you weren’t willing to keep a big fire burning for fear of setting your shelter alight, so you got too cold to stay out. What’s the plan this time? Will it be warm enough not to need fire? A lot of the gear in your kit will be very difficult to use one-handed, including the new lighter, and fishing kit, but a hand injury is very common when using blades and fire, and could be part of the reason for someone needing an emergency kit, have you tried using this kit with a simulated injury?
The real fear is I was on federal land and didn’t want to cause any issues. It’s been some time but I still plan to get out and do this on private land where I’m not as concerned about the fire. As far as injury….. one step at a time lol 😂 hopefully no real or simulated.
Well I enjoyed the video, (Got a bit loud musically,) The thought process of making one and then using it is good. IF all you had on you was that, it is better than nothing.
Last time you nearly died of exposure, not going to happen this time. You're right to keep your E.D.C. if you habitually carry it you should have it when you need it, for that reason I like to carry a mylar blanket, used it once as a poncho.
Those bouillon cubes take up a lot of space for zero nutritional value. I'm guessing maybe it's a morale item for you, but you'd be better off just making pine needle tea and at least getting the vitamin C, and saving some space
Jdevilist I suppose they cant all be home runs, I had some music issues because a copyright issue with the first, but I'm open to some feedback on the kit! Thanks for checking it out!
@@TheTuneAce Jee, why don't you just go with wearing 3 paracord wraps instead of just 2. You're obviously an imbecile. Keep up the great work though professor. 😂😂😆
